If CICO was real, if you cut to 1500 calories a day you would eventually go down to 50lb and die.
If CICO was real, if you cut to 1500 calories a day you would eventually go down to 50lb and die.
If CICO was real, if you cut to 1500 calories a day you would eventually go down to 50lb and die.
Your calories out change over time.
Your body needs less calories when you lose weight
I'm at 130lbs right now and I gain weight if I eat more than 500 calories daily.
>I'm at 130lbs right now and I gain weight if I eat more than 500 calories daily.
You certainly meant surplus, right?
>You certainly meant surplus, right?
No, I mean if I eat more than 500 calories I will gain weight.
TDEE calculator says I should eat 1800 calories daily to keep my weight, but if I do that I'll become obese.
You're normal, I'm the abnornal one.
>I'm the abnornal one
Yes i was doubting your claim a bit. If you are for real and double checked your intake you should get that checked because that is indeed extremely abnormal
One serving of whey protein when I wake up
One Mcdonalds soft serve on my way home from work
One serving of whey protein at night
That's my diet to keep my weight, around 500 calories.
Well if that is true(again) it would do you a favor and not waste these calories with goyslop but rather shit that atleast gives you minerals and vitamins
>shit that atleast gives you minerals and vitamins
I drink snake juice + whey has all the aminoacids needed... right?
>I drink snake juice + whey has all the aminoacids needed... right?
There is way more shit that could make the body run better. Not everything essential but its like running on bootleg shit fuel vs top class premium fuel. You only have 1 motor decide what you wanna run it on i guess
>There is way more shit that could make the body run better
Yeah but whey is practical
Well, whey is called food supplement for a reason,
I prefer to mix it with real food like oats, or just drink it with raw eggs. To me it makes sense might be broscience, pseudoscience w/e but i feel better when i do it this way
>real food
>like oats
Just add in a glass of V8 or some equivalent vegetable juice blend.
Have you checked your TSH, t4 and t3 levels?
>Have you checked your TSH, t4 and t3 levels?
No, I didn't but I believe they are ok.
Just dose them anon, maybe you're just undiagnosed hypothyroid
You suck at counting calories
54kg/119lb here and i struggle gaining weight eating like 3 (clean) meals a day. Either i have a fricking tapeworm or my metabolism is insane
Or you can't count properly
I dont count but i know for a fact my breakfast alone: 125g oats, 250ml milk, 30g almonds, 20g dark chocolate is like around 500 calories alone. This is not the biggest meal i eat in a day the biggest is a big plate of pasta with tomato based sauce which contains meat/fatty fish and a generous amount of olive oil
>I dont count but here are the specific numbers of my low calorie meal
That is the only meal i weigh because i need to know the liquid ratio the other two meals i just eat until my stomach feels too full to continue
Nothing I said was incorrect
But what you said was pretty moronic because the original reply was claiming to gain weight on a diet that is about the amount i eat in 1 meal while beeing fatter than me.
how low is your iq?
The point was you have no idea what you are talking about.
Sure nice damage control now that you realize you are a moron who cant even read properly
>i don't count calories but im not gaining weight
Maybe you should count your calories and increase them to try gaining weight instead of eating the same things every day and being surprised when nothing changes, you moronic subhuman homosexual.
Well the problem is im not amerifat and eat mostly hard to nutrionally judge natural foods like unprocessed meats and vegetables. There is no way to track that correctly
Great cope. You can easily find calories for plenty of foods, even unprocessed shit. You're just a moron.
tomato: amsterdam and tomato: flyover city, usa are not the same thing. You dont know shit about agriculture it seems
I'm not from America. Of course you're from the Netherlands, though, you arrogant homosexual. I hope that you fail in all of your fitness related endeavors.
Yeye just weed dude hehe it wont hurt ur intellect broooooo, its so goood not addictive, you can still function normally brooo its healthy even
Wtf are you on about, just weight your food and use the google dot com website
The caloric and nutritionally value depends on factors like breed, soil,cut(meat) and type of feed of the livestock. google will not give you an accurate value of your vegetable or meat at home. Its all a broscience cope and you might as well just add olive oil until the scale starts moving
of course its not accurate you imbecile, that's why we weight ourselves and fix the diet as needed, but counting is better than not counting. if you are eating ""3000 calories"" (even if its not) and still not gaining weight, you up it to ""3200 calories"" (even though its not). really that hard to grasp?
>of course its not accurate you imbecile
Ahh yes and how come you see all these lifting morons on here as well who claim to be in a surplus of 200 calories for example as if they could achieve this accuracy. The morons on here obviously believe you can count calories like that and waste their time(not that a morons time is worth much). The only ones that can track their calories accurately are those all in on pre packaged foods that get tested regularly.
So in light of that does it make more sense to count your calories or just count the shit you add until the scale moves like extra oil or carbs? obviously its the latter. Thus count your calories is a meme
You're just calling it counting food. it's the same fricking shit so who cares tbqh. let's get big
have a great weekend friend
No the difference is counting your normal diet vs counting the shit you at on top of your normal diet. Count your calories means counting everything this is what the morons saying this want to imply like "bro wtf are you doing not knowing how many calories that potato soup had?"
Exactly. I track my estimated calories consumed and my daily weight to create a rolling average estimated TDEE. I’m pretty sure my calculated TDEE is a little low because as a recovering fatty I’m probably a little self-serving with my eyeballing of certain things, but it works since I’m ultimately adjusting the estimate against movement on the scale and my self-serving habits are relatively scaleable.
If you have a kitchen scale and cook food it's literally easier.
>I dont count
This is where the discussion should have ended. You're just as moronic as a fatty who "can't lose weight" because they think a box of Ritz crackers is a small meal.
Yeah you are totally in a 233.992 caloric surplus you Black person make yourself believe that who cares about reality
Calorie counting is all an estimation, but it's accurate enough to be reliable. I've successfully bulked and cut by counting calories while you "can't gain weight."
>but it's accurate enough to be reliable
If you are a goyslop muncher like sulek maybe
And sure you have bulked but if you have eaten clean i can garantuee you havent known your degree of surplus not even if it was slight or moderate
>buzzwords
>buzzwords
>buzzwords
I've gotten results with my method repeatedly. You haven't.
You think 3 meals is a lot? eat more, moron
also don't count meals, count calories, moron
AIDS?
No the last time i had sex is like 6 years ago i would be ded now
i wish i had a tapeworm
Its not as hot as you would think
Because you think brocolli and water is a clean meal.
>struggle gaining weight eating like 3 (clean) meals a day
not enough carbs
Close I'd probably say that can happen around 1100-1200. Say someone has a bmr around. You eventually reach a sort of metabolic depression that lowered all that by 10-15% even potentially more in long term starvation scenarios but yeah you could have a nice day with 1500 and a little activity. Just don't underlog food or over-log activity.
i think what you tried to say was 'if you keep on a 500~1k deficit all your life eventually you would die'
and yes. that's how it works. you ARE dying while cutting, and your body is keepiing you alive by burning what you have
so what's your point, dumb frick
My BMR would be 1500 calories at 120lbs.
t. 5'7 manlet
CICO is a dumb ass word and you're a dumb ass frogposter
>Can't even put sage in the right field
but yeah though
You will die of moronation, OP. That's confirmed.
Well well well,
If you werent a moron ud know that if somethings more or equal to 90% of cases true, than its true and other 10% are marginalised
Yh if u eat uranium u wont gain instantly milion pounds, and if u do keto cico might not be best way to measure kcal, or in ur case u probably wont die with 1500kcal diet, but those are extremities and im certain that it helped more people than it confused
Most people eat normal diet and it works for them
Same as bmi measurement doesnt correctly measure muscles, and a 5% bf 100kg bodybuilder full of roids might be obese on that scale, but we all know it isnt the case, yet its widely used because for simple people it does the job good enough
>if u do keto cico might not be best way to measure kcal,
Lol what
Be me before summer 2023. 1,68m, starting weight 71,5 kilos.
Losing weight while maintaining lifts (some dropped, some got PRs):
>TDEE (base) is 1850kcal/day
>diet while lifting is 2200 kcal/day
>lifting and exercising (cardio) consumes at about 700 kcal/day
>resulting deficit is an average of 350 kcal/day
Got to 67 kilos in less than 2 months while shredding.
While we understand that metabolism fluctuates across the day and/or due to the intensity we apply at the gym,....why is it so hard for this board to understand this basic mathematical concept?
Why everybody shits on CICO? Is it because there are a lot of people here that eat like shit while keeping a fricked up metabolism?
>1,68m
bro I'm so sorry
When you do a severe cut your body attempts to compensate for the caloric deficit by lowering your NEAT (Non exercise activity thermogenesis). You essentially become lazier and subconsciously move less. This makes it possible to survive on low calorie diets and eventually stabilize bodyweight. If you cut hard enough your body starts eating away at non-fatty tissue and then you die, pretty much like you said.
This is exactly why the idiots that count calories while on a carb-heavy diet never lose any significant weight.
Their TDEE lowers so much, and any weight loss they manage to get is muscle mass for the most part.
Even if they lose a lot of weight, they end up with a skinnyfat body.
Which proves that counting calories is a fool's errand. Just eat meat and eggs and you'll get leaner no matter what.
I like keto for starting a weight loss phase but it's not my preferred diet for gaining muscle.
>sedentary on the left
Are we supposed to believe that guy remains the whole day on the couch and walks only to the kitchen?
Also CICO is not about “muh carbs” but on getting on a decent (healthy) deficit compared to your daily expenditure whether you are active at the gym or not.
People here thinks guys on CICO are on deficit and only eating sweets and bread. That’s moronic.
Dont give the ketoBlack person attention he shits up this board since months already with his shill posts. Yesterday you could see like 3-4 keto shill threads beeing up at the same time its all this homosexual
Black person, keto is like the most mainstream shit ever. It isn't "that one guy", there are dozens of people that promote it because it just frickin' works.
How could eating mostly meat (what your muscles are made of) and avoid carbs that spike your insulin (the get-fat hormone) not work?
Your muscles are fueled by carbs
>Black person, keto is like the most mainstream shit ever. It isn't "that one guy",
Nice try ketoschizo but posting the same pictures, making the same posts always leading to carnivore over and over again outs you stupid fricking annoying piece of shit. You are too fricking moronic to even diversify your shill
>posting the same pictures
People save other's pictures and repost them if they agree with them. I don't know who's that guy that you're so angry about, but you clearly have mental issues.
I don't understand how others choosing not to eat bread could be such an angering issue for you, or a sane person for that matter.
I recognize you from other threads where the topic arose. You clearly need to get a life. What you're doing is not healthy.
Again, keto is one of the most mainstream forms of dietary advice today (because it works). Dozens of people advocate for it because of their positive personal experience.
The boogeyman that you've made in your head does not exist. You are mentally ill.
Ketones are superior. No significant sources of carbs exist in nature. Wild fruit is tiny, has less sugar, and only appears in small concentrations for short periods of the year.
Nobody saves that fat vegan nobody gives a shit about that fat vegan. I wont waste more time with you i know your shill is losing effectiveness anyway and its better for you to continue wasting your time staying the little subhuman genetic shill waste that your pathetic existence is while i use my time to better myself. The day your pathetic life ends is a good day on this planet nobody will miss your trash tier posts or anything you produce for that matter
You're definitely insane.
Im not shilling on an anime website for months that is you. Have a painful death you worthless genetic trash pile
I'm literally just some random dude that barely ever browses IST. Like, maybe I'll post once or twice a week.
I'm completely puzzled as to who's that person you've been stalking for MONTHS here.
But he definitely owned you hard if you're that buttblasted and been seething about it for that long.
I will definitely advocate for keto more in the future, your deranged obsession is definitely what happens when a brain runs only on carbs.
Btw i know that fat dr greger vegan bait thread is also made by you piece of shit i know you love that image. Come on post that reddit image of that user that you rage about
What you moronic ketolard pseudoscientists fail to understand is that sugar is so essential to your body that cells literally can create glucose from everyting else to obtain it, moron ''muh essential sugar doesn't exist''
Now post body with timestamp instead of the same pictures from almost a year
>the same picture from months, everyday, again again and again
>left is considered ''impressive physyque'' by burger fat millenial standards
If CICO wasn't real, you could stop eating food entirely and not lose weight and not die.
CICO is real, but if you are just cutting calories and still eating junk food you will become nutrient deficient, feel like shit and in the worst cases could even die. Also people's metabolism can go as low as 1200 calories a day. That is why on CICO you should try to burn at least 1000 calories a day to keep your metabolism working. You are just calculating the calories in and not the calories out. Other types of diets can be used too though. Keto kind of works and is best for diabetics and carnivore works and will make you feel better if you are sensitive to a lot of different foods or have had Lyme disease.
Track your daily movement when you drop that.
Your maintenance calories decreases as you lose weight moron.
Yes
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minnesota_Starvation_Experiment
1500 Calories is semi starvation. Men in this experiment literally went insane on 1560 Calories, some had psychological damage for many years.
Yet that's the same calorie count as most OMAD meals?
I can't stuff my face.... HELP ME Black personMAN IM GOING INSANE
Ok idiot what variables u didn't involve in ur stupid sentence / argument ? The body is made of the same shit u eat, the lower u go the weaker u become at an advantage of slower metabolism and lower maintenance calories, at a deficit ur body always uses internal combustion literally, it turns everything including fat muscle , bones even teeth into something useful, mattrr of facr mose morbedly obese can last for up to a year without food, when ur organs can no longer function due to limited resources they start shutting down, at what weight u will die ? Nobody knows that's why some people survived concentration camps
Going back to cico people fail to track these variables then say cico doesn't work because they are too stupid to understand that they need to adjust everything based on the latest stats not where u started doing cico dumbfricking homosexual op go back
calories out is variable too, dumbass
You would lose weight until 1500 calories was sufficient to maintain. If you kept a 500 calorie deficit forever, then yes eventually you die while eating your permitted 50 calories a day
>You would lose weight until 1500 calories was sufficient to maintain
Which would be 100lb if you were sedentary and 5'0"