You (or the anon I replied to if you aren't him) said lifting heavy weights fast frick you up, pro athletes don't seem to have an issue, claiming lifting fast and heavy hurts you is moronic and back pedalling like you did is even more moronic.
how can I back-pedal if I didn't make the original point?
professional athletes also have legions of teams to help them with recovery, specialised training, and other bullshit
your average dyel IST poster that's 30% BF at 160lbs aren't even in the same ballpark
Objectively false. If TUT mattered why dont you just take 5lbs play league of legends and do reps that last 5 minutes for several hours? you would get 100000x gains
TUT is a wide band but you do need to use appropriate load for the TUT you chose.
fast concentric, slow eccentric. simple as.
This. Explosive concentric is even better as you use maximum force. Just keep tension 100% of the time.
Both, you need both endurance and explosive strength
Done in different sets or trainings. Optimal TUT is for metabolic stress type training. Mechanical stress type training is very low rep which is also needed for a natty to progress.
This happens naturally at least after the first couple reps. If I can easily complete my set, if my last reps aren't slower than my first couple ones, I know I'm not lifting heavy enough. But this is not by choice.
If you have to do a movement fast, you aren't as strong as you think you are.
Drop weight by half, movements should take about 2 seconds, maybe even three depending on insertion.
I see morons lifting fast all the time at the gym. They are pretending to be strong, while momentum does all the work. Time under tension is the major factor to muscle growth. TIME!!
Going fast means you a) finish faster b) don't even have good tension because your cheating using momentum.
Rep count doesn't matter. Sets don't matter. Weight doesn't matter. The only thing that matters is how much time you can keep tension on the muscle when performing the exercise (without breaking the tension!!) That's why deadlifts suck and are for powershitters and PR chasing homosexuals who range from DYELs to complete lardasses. If you see someone with a good body doing deadlifts, they most certainly did not getting doing deadlifts.
Objectively false. If TUT mattered why dont you just take 5lbs play league of legends and do reps that last 5 minutes for several hours? you would get 100000x gains
Why are you so obsessed with people playing league and curling a 5lb dumbell as your argument? I see your cringe fricking ass post this exact thing all the time, you're weird af
>Time under tension is the major factor to muscle growth. TIME!!
Unfortunately, this is not the case. Time under tension is a tracking tool for isometrics to replace reps for progression. It is not a factor in growth. Total tension on a muscle, percentage of 1RM, and proximity to failure are more important.
Area under the curve, it seems, is the important gauge of exercise efficiency. Total tensile load for given recruited fibers over a given time. Have to account for fiber microtears and metabolic factors in fringe cases (isometrics, low loads, endurance work).
1-2 second concentric/3-4 second negative is a good starting point. The concentric should only be as slow as required to eliminate momentum. There's no point making it slower. 1-2 seconds is about what it should be for most exercises when performed in a controlled fashion. Wrist curls and calf exercises can be done much faster due to their short rom. For something like squats and conventional deadlift only use a controlled negative. Don't even worry about taking 3-4 seconds. They're not stable enough for it and you should be using heavy weight for them anyways.
All the autistic shit don't matter just do full ROM till failure or close to it. It's way more important to learn proper biomechanics and fully utilize your muscles and understand them than do some shit technique. Only difference with a fast movement is that you are going to have to do more reps till you reach failure
Muscle gank is when your muscle rolls over the bone, for instance I just ganked my glute shifting my weight to the side.
My butt bone rolled over the glute while sitting on the edge of the bathtub.
It made a sound like "gonk" that echoed in the tub.
Let me know what you think in the comments
Explosive concentric, slow eccentric. Depending on goals and the lift in question, 1-2 second concentric and 3-5 second eccentric should work. Aim to keep muscle tension on the way down as if you were just finishing the concentric all the way down. The exception is big lifts like DL where back is involved, as fatigue becomes an issue.
do a rep. now imagine yourself from the 3rd person, watching you do that rep. if you look moronic, you're probably doing it wrong. if you don't look moronic, you doing alright
Imagine walking into the gym and this butthole is taking 30 seconds to perform two reps on a machine you need to use. The best bodybuilders didn't get big doing this wanky shit.
I tried slow and wasn’t impressed. Control the weight, keep the mind muscle connection active to keep the tension on the muscle during the negative and not the joints. That is absolutely vital and takes a lot more skill and concentration than people realize. But I find the results from slow negatives to be underwhelming and for me personally it’s demoralizing because it’s such a boring and tedious way to train.
Moving fast or explosively during exercise provides no advantages over moving slowly, only increases risk of injury. There is absolutely no reason you should move quickly during exercise. You don't need to move fast during exercise to recruit your fast twitch motor units, you don't need it to improve explosiveness in other activities, and moving slowly during exercise is not going to make you slower during other activities.
Slow no matter what. Moving fast with heavy weights is almost always guaranteed to frick you up.
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Explain every single professional athlete ever.
training for a specific athletic outcome and skill transference, not muscular hypertrophy
really that hard?
You (or the anon I replied to if you aren't him) said lifting heavy weights fast frick you up, pro athletes don't seem to have an issue, claiming lifting fast and heavy hurts you is moronic and back pedalling like you did is even more moronic.
how can I back-pedal if I didn't make the original point?
professional athletes also have legions of teams to help them with recovery, specialised training, and other bullshit
your average dyel IST poster that's 30% BF at 160lbs aren't even in the same ballpark
But at the cost of fricking you up, right?
>explain pro athletes
Unironically they get injured all the time, sometimes so hard their career ends
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TUT is a wide band but you do need to use appropriate load for the TUT you chose.
This. Explosive concentric is even better as you use maximum force. Just keep tension 100% of the time.
Done in different sets or trainings. Optimal TUT is for metabolic stress type training. Mechanical stress type training is very low rep which is also needed for a natty to progress.
If the weight is heavy enough, you shouldn't be able to move it fast anyway.
This happens naturally at least after the first couple reps. If I can easily complete my set, if my last reps aren't slower than my first couple ones, I know I'm not lifting heavy enough. But this is not by choice.
If you have to do a movement fast, you aren't as strong as you think you are.
Drop weight by half, movements should take about 2 seconds, maybe even three depending on insertion.
it's the bill of rights not the bill of have to's commie
Still seething about Israel's dying breath I see.
I see morons lifting fast all the time at the gym. They are pretending to be strong, while momentum does all the work. Time under tension is the major factor to muscle growth. TIME!!
Going fast means you a) finish faster b) don't even have good tension because your cheating using momentum.
Rep count doesn't matter. Sets don't matter. Weight doesn't matter. The only thing that matters is how much time you can keep tension on the muscle when performing the exercise (without breaking the tension!!) That's why deadlifts suck and are for powershitters and PR chasing homosexuals who range from DYELs to complete lardasses. If you see someone with a good body doing deadlifts, they most certainly did not getting doing deadlifts.
Objectively false. If TUT mattered why dont you just take 5lbs play league of legends and do reps that last 5 minutes for several hours? you would get 100000x gains
Good Morning Sirs!
Why are you so obsessed with people playing league and curling a 5lb dumbell as your argument? I see your cringe fricking ass post this exact thing all the time, you're weird af
>Time under tension is the major factor to muscle growth. TIME!!
Unfortunately, this is not the case. Time under tension is a tracking tool for isometrics to replace reps for progression. It is not a factor in growth. Total tension on a muscle, percentage of 1RM, and proximity to failure are more important.
Area under the curve, it seems, is the important gauge of exercise efficiency. Total tensile load for given recruited fibers over a given time. Have to account for fiber microtears and metabolic factors in fringe cases (isometrics, low loads, endurance work).
>Total tension on a muscle
what is the difference between that and time under tension? That's literally the same thing to me.
Slower and controlled. You need full ROM. Quick isn't bad unless you're using momentum to do the work the muscle should be doing to grow.
fast concentric, slow eccentric. simple as.
fast concentric slower eccentric
1-2 second concentric/3-4 second negative is a good starting point. The concentric should only be as slow as required to eliminate momentum. There's no point making it slower. 1-2 seconds is about what it should be for most exercises when performed in a controlled fashion. Wrist curls and calf exercises can be done much faster due to their short rom. For something like squats and conventional deadlift only use a controlled negative. Don't even worry about taking 3-4 seconds. They're not stable enough for it and you should be using heavy weight for them anyways.
>The concentric should only be as slow as required to eliminate momentum
then u might as well hold it statically - same difference
Both, you need both endurance and explosive strength
All the autistic shit don't matter just do full ROM till failure or close to it. It's way more important to learn proper biomechanics and fully utilize your muscles and understand them than do some shit technique. Only difference with a fast movement is that you are going to have to do more reps till you reach failure
>All the autistic shit don't matter
>just do full ROM
Half-reppers not allowed in this board sir please understand
If you want bigger muscles you eat more and lift more.
Muscle gank is when your muscle rolls over the bone, for instance I just ganked my glute shifting my weight to the side.
My butt bone rolled over the glute while sitting on the edge of the bathtub.
It made a sound like "gonk" that echoed in the tub.
Let me know what you think in the comments
Explosive concentric, slow eccentric. Depending on goals and the lift in question, 1-2 second concentric and 3-5 second eccentric should work. Aim to keep muscle tension on the way down as if you were just finishing the concentric all the way down. The exception is big lifts like DL where back is involved, as fatigue becomes an issue.
do a rep. now imagine yourself from the 3rd person, watching you do that rep. if you look moronic, you're probably doing it wrong. if you don't look moronic, you doing alright
for compounds I will try to be explosive.
for isolations I will be more controlled and push out reps.
controlled (not necessarily slow, just controlled) eccentric. Explosive/fast concentric.
Don't fall for the slow reps meme. Just control it on the way down and explode on the way up.
As long as you do them to failure, it doesn't matter.
moving slow is safer and better for your joints and ligaments
Imagine walking into the gym and this butthole is taking 30 seconds to perform two reps on a machine you need to use. The best bodybuilders didn't get big doing this wanky shit.
that really is pretty extreme but you cant argue his results at that age
the results are from roids moron
>Angry face
>Tries to look menacing
Very incel
Move it however you want, the important part is that it feels heavy.
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Positive portion quickly, negative portion slowly. Do not use too much weight - good resistance & ample control.
I tried slow and wasn’t impressed. Control the weight, keep the mind muscle connection active to keep the tension on the muscle during the negative and not the joints. That is absolutely vital and takes a lot more skill and concentration than people realize. But I find the results from slow negatives to be underwhelming and for me personally it’s demoralizing because it’s such a boring and tedious way to train.
I lift it with heavy ass weight and I don’t care what people are screaming about in the background.
Moving fast or explosively during exercise provides no advantages over moving slowly, only increases risk of injury. There is absolutely no reason you should move quickly during exercise. You don't need to move fast during exercise to recruit your fast twitch motor units, you don't need it to improve explosiveness in other activities, and moving slowly during exercise is not going to make you slower during other activities.