>if you coom once a day from porn you will lose your gains

>if you coom once a day from porn you will lose your gains
>if you coom multiple times a day into hot women you won't lose your gains
So which is it?

  1. 7 days ago
    Anonymous

    I literally do not care. Why do you care so much gay?

  2. 7 days ago
    Anonymous

    women are the gains, idiot

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      are the gains, idiot
      >lifting for women
      weakest of the weak

  3. 7 days ago
    Anonymous

    If you coom into a female you have an intimate emotional relationship with your test gains spike 1000000%

    • 7 days ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/jMMrhuF.jpg

      >So which is it?
      Both, it has to do with the brain part of ejaculation
      You're rewarding yourself while you ejaculate but what is the origin of this reward ?
      >hand
      You're useless and your brain knows it
      >Women
      You're a stud and your brain acknowledge it by producing more attractive chemicals that bring more women to you
      The same goes for everything
      >wage life VS entrepreneurship
      >door to door sales vs internet marketing
      >tinder VS in your face seduction

      >"when you coom with a female, your brain releases special chemicals that make you stronger"
      >"this red crystal ionizes the air which heals and shrinks your pores"

      • 7 days ago
        Anonymous

        keep masturbating anon
        They want you to

        • 7 days ago
          Anonymous

          Based garden gnomes live rent free in white incels' brains kek

        • 7 days ago
          Anonymous

          >South Korea bans porn
          >Sexual assault crime skyrockets
          >b-but porn is to blame!

          • 6 days ago
            fatty-bo0m-batty

            cite your sources; not that I don't belive you, but porn is objectively bad for your brain.

            >correlation does not imply causation and all that gay shit

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            You have to give people the choice. Society cannot advance and grow stronger until it has been put to the test by its own liberties. Countries that give you the choice between “evil” like porn and drugs, they allow citizens to express their will and in doing so allow them overcome their darker desires through experience with them. The most progressive countries in the world (that aren’t developing countries) also happen to be the most peaceful and great places to live. I.E. North American and Western Europe, Taiwan and Japan.

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        >what do you mean the continuation of the species is incentivized on a chemical level?
        If jacking it and fucking were legitimately chemically interchangable the species would have gone extinct millions of years ago.

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        >I can't believe the body would biochemically incentive procreation
        Leftism has fucked an entire generation.

    • 7 days ago
      Anonymous

      What if this woman happens to inhabit 2-dimensional space?

      • 7 days ago
        Anonymous

        >anime
        Have you started your transition yet?

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          nta but I watch anime and have been rowing since I started highschool. While my friends who train with me don't like anime they don't really give a shit that I watch it, sounds like you're projecting m8

    • 7 days ago
      I hate women

      It’s this
      Sex is an important part of pai bonding after marriage but if you’re wasting your seed for any other occasion then you’re wasting resources for temporary pleasure which makes you a beta or even worse a woman.

      • 7 days ago
        Anonymous

        Get that pi-bonding chemistry shit out of my face. I am neither shallow as an aromatic nor as reactive as an unsaturated C-C bond.

  4. 7 days ago
    Anonymous

    >Either or
    Neither you retard

    • 7 days ago
      Anonymous

      I hate either/or gays so much it’s unreal.

  5. 7 days ago
    Anonymous

    In the mind of the deranged no-fapper incel, the penis can magically tell if it is inside a hand or inside a vagina. Somehow, if it is inside a vagina and you nut your body releases extra hormones that magically make your body stronger instead of the ones that make your body weaker.

    No-fappers are the male equivalent of girls who collect crystals and think they each have unqiue magical healing elements

    • 7 days ago
      Anonymous

      >No-fappers are the male equivalent of girls who collect crystals and think they each have unqiue magical healing eleme
      Kek I knew it. Nofap is fucking retarded, just don't cum 7 days a week or more and you should be good

    • 7 days ago
      Anonymous

      >No-fappers are the male equivalent of girls who collect crystals and think they each have unqiue magical healing elements
      There is actually LESS evidence for nofap than for crystals.
      Anytime you deal with a nofapper, you know it's some "ex" porn addict who was a thousand times more depraved and disgusting at his worse than any normal guy. And who is trying to make some cringy speech to "motivate" you (really himself) to have real sex.
      A chad will fuck his gf, then fap later that same day if he wants and she's not around and think nothing of it. And he'll still have more test and more gains than the nofapcel. Meanwhile the nofapper will larp on IST about his war brides and having sex for procreation only.
      Which way do you really want to go here?

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        There's literal evidence for tesk spike and intratesticular t increase after a few days of not busting nuts. Anyone that repliws to this is required to post body

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          >There's literal evidence for tesk spike and intratesticular t increase after a few days of not busting nuts

          .......which then reduces back to baseline by day 7

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            And then spikes again.

            • 6 days ago
              Anonymous

              no, anon, it doesn't magically spike again. there's no magic testosterone spike from not *using* your testosterone. the very idea is logically invalid to a person capable of thought. why would such a mechanism have evolved? to reward losing males? rofl

    • 7 days ago
      Anonymous

      >In the mind of the deranged no-fapper incel, the penis can magically tell if it is inside a hand or inside a vagina
      this is pretty much what I've been preacing since the dawn of time, masturbating isn't all that different from a warm fleshlight

    • 7 days ago
      Anonymous

      Haven't there been studies on oxytocin after intercourse where this does not occur after masturbation

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        Chronic masturbators and the mentally unwell can't distinguish their hands from a living breathing female. Scientists are baffled. More at 6

    • 7 days ago
      Anonymous

      There's actually really rare crystals that put out ions into the air that can calm people down. It gives a similar affect to the weather after a thunderstorm.

      There's no evidence that nofap can increase your test level or has any impact on growing muscle.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      Your body can tell because you're in bed with a real life woman releasing various hormones which do not happen while you're beating your meat to porn in a dark room, cringe gay samefagged his own post multiple times as well

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/fwDHGaH.jpg

      >if you coom once a day from porn you will lose your gains
      >if you coom multiple times a day into hot women you won't lose your gains
      So which is it?

      Have either of you actually had sex? The difference between sex and masturbation is pretty clear if you've ever had it. There's a huge difference between moving your wrist for 5 minutes and doing hip-thrusts and ab-curls for 20-30 minutes. And that's just for the more vanilla positions, and ignoring the mental health benefits that come from being desired by another person.
      >oh yeah but cooming is still cooming bro
      The whole point of no-fap is to motivate you to actually fuck women. If the only way you can release is in a woman, you're gonna do some crazy shit you normally would never do to fuck one. That's the primary benefit of no-fap (well, that and getting you free of porn). Yes, there are some minor secondary benefits to not orgasming for a few days, but they're not the point.

      I HATE YOU RETARDS SO MUCH

      WHY DO YOU THINK HAVING SEX IS "COOL" BUT JERKING OFF IS "LOSER SHIT"

      YOU ABSOLUTELY RAVAGE A FEMALE WHO LETS YOU, YOU COMPLETELY DOMINATE HER IN THE MOMENT AND GIVE HER YOUR SEED

      NOW LETS LOOK AT JERKING OFF???
      OH HE HE TUG MY WEENIE

      YOU SEE THE FUCKING DIFFERENCE?

      ITS ONLY LOSER SHIT FOR MEN BECAUSE WE ARE SUPPOSE TO BE ALPHA (and it looks gay as fuck, it's hot when a chick does it, but it's still loser tier)

      YOU GAIN BENEFITS FOR CUMMING WITH A WOMEN BECAUSE OF THE CHEMICALS SHE RELEASES AND THE HIT YOU GET WHEN CUMMING IS THE SAME AS JERKING OFF, BUT THE CHEMICALS OFF SET THE CHEMICALS YOU DUMBASSES STOP MAKING THESE THREADS

      This guy gets it.

      I had a serious question about this whole "having sex makes you produce more attractive chemicals which bring women to you" and yadda yadda
      While it sounds bullshit and i dont usually believe your 4choon incel bullshit, (sorry, quick story i swear) i remember (2020) i had sex with that girl and then came back to my hometown where i had to meet/host this old time friend (female), it ended up in me booking an airbnb for her.
      It was raining af so i spent the night with her, didnt care since she was a friend.
      But after asking me how my weekend went, who was this girl i was seeing etc, she literally acted like she was throwing herself at me.
      "Hey anon see i lost some weight!" proceeds to lift her tshirt up to her SHOULDER to show me her hip bone, like bro youre literally showing me your boobs.
      When we wanted to sleep : "are you okay if we cuddle? Like spooning?"
      "Are you always sleeping with your tshirt on ? Id take it off..."

      So yea : it seems girls become weirder when they KNOW youve been having sex, but surely thats not just pheromones bullshit right ? That must be some social thing too or whatever ?

      >That must be some social thing too or whatever ?
      It's the Pygmalion effect. You being desired subtly increases your confidence and self esteem, which changes how you carry yourself, which in turn makes you more desirable.

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        >If the only way you can release is in a woman, you're gonna do some crazy shit you normally would never do to fuck one.
        Sure. But if your idea of "crazy shit you'd never normally do" is actually just talking to women and actually trying, then that means you must be a pretty big fucking loser.
        Nofappers are telling on themselves without realizing it.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      Haven't there been studies on oxytocin after intercourse where this does not occur after masturbation

      Can you tell a hand vs vagina? Fucking retards

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      >In the mind of the deranged no-fapper incel, the penis can magically tell if it is inside a hand or inside a vagina.
      Retard that believes in mind body duality, you know it's in your hand you retarded piece of shit. The same goes for paying some whore to open her legs vs conquering a women.
      > Somehow, if it is inside a vagina and you nut your body releases extra hormones that magically make your body stronger instead of the ones that make your body weaker.
      This is so retarded. What are neural pathways, reinforcing your behaviour and all your internal biochemistry. Fucking a girl by wooing her and just sitting in your room are totally the same, you see in the end you release the same chemicals in your brain. I'm really smart, that's how stupid you sound.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      Having sex and jacking off are miles apart. Mentally and physically.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      The penis can't tell, YOU can tell retard. Yes the brain does something different when you're at home alone doing what your parents think is shameful vs with another human being that you've been talking and flirting with, staring into the eyes and at the body of this female, high off her pheromones, while pumping her full of cum.

      It's shown that sex generally increases test and fapping generally decreases it. It's shown that being in the presence of new women, especially if they're ovulating, spikes test. Stop seething and fucking your hand fapcel, you might think more straight

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous
    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      I'm not advocating that I have magic powers from doing nofap
      When you fap frequently it becomes a habit or an addiction. My only goal with not fapping was to develop discipline and control myself.
      I don't care if I never have sex, I still won't be fapping

  6. 7 days ago
    Anonymous

    >So which is it?
    Both, it has to do with the brain part of ejaculation
    You're rewarding yourself while you ejaculate but what is the origin of this reward ?
    >hand
    You're useless and your brain knows it
    >Women
    You're a stud and your brain acknowledge it by producing more attractive chemicals that bring more women to you
    The same goes for everything
    >wage life VS entrepreneurship
    >door to door sales vs internet marketing
    >tinder VS in your face seduction

    • 7 days ago
      Anonymous

      I had a serious question about this whole "having sex makes you produce more attractive chemicals which bring women to you" and yadda yadda
      While it sounds bullshit and i dont usually believe your 4choon incel bullshit, (sorry, quick story i swear) i remember (2020) i had sex with that girl and then came back to my hometown where i had to meet/host this old time friend (female), it ended up in me booking an airbnb for her.
      It was raining af so i spent the night with her, didnt care since she was a friend.
      But after asking me how my weekend went, who was this girl i was seeing etc, she literally acted like she was throwing herself at me.
      "Hey anon see i lost some weight!" proceeds to lift her tshirt up to her SHOULDER to show me her hip bone, like bro youre literally showing me your boobs.
      When we wanted to sleep : "are you okay if we cuddle? Like spooning?"
      "Are you always sleeping with your tshirt on ? Id take it off..."

      So yea : it seems girls become weirder when they KNOW youve been having sex, but surely thats not just pheromones bullshit right ? That must be some social thing too or whatever ?

  7. 7 days ago
    Anonymous

    >if you coom once a day from porn you will lose your gains
    >if you coom multiple times a day into hot women you won't lose your gains
    Neither. There are 2 times you should ever coom
    >While your wife is ovulating to create children
    >Directly after battle with your claimed war bride.
    BTW, you should have 12 wives so that you can fuck one during ovulation every month.

    • 7 days ago
      Anonymous

      checked
      you actually need 108 wives so you can nut in one each month while the previous wives are pregnant

      • 7 days ago
        Anonymous

        There aren't 108 months in a human pregnancy

        • 7 days ago
          Anonymous

          Impregnating 1 woman per day for ~30 days out of the month for 9 months out of the year means you would actually need roughly 270 women to carry all of those babies.

          • 7 days ago
            Anonymous

            Oh fuck. All right, all right, time to hit the weights again... it seems "making it" is getting harder and harder every time I check.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      they ovulate every month idiot, one can ovulate 12 times and you don´t need the other eleven

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        Not if they are impregnated once a year.
        >9 month pregnancy
        >3 month recovery and tending to newborn
        >Ready for next baby

  8. 7 days ago
    Anonymous

    Little known fact but he's standing up on his tip toes in this picture. Teeny tiny manlet that one.

  9. 7 days ago
    Anonymous

    hand-crafted for HWD

  10. 7 days ago
    Anonymous

    I HATE YOU RETARDS SO MUCH

    WHY DO YOU THINK HAVING SEX IS "COOL" BUT JERKING OFF IS "LOSER SHIT"

    YOU ABSOLUTELY RAVAGE A FEMALE WHO LETS YOU, YOU COMPLETELY DOMINATE HER IN THE MOMENT AND GIVE HER YOUR SEED

    NOW LETS LOOK AT JERKING OFF???
    OH HE HE TUG MY WEENIE

    YOU SEE THE FUCKING DIFFERENCE?

    ITS ONLY LOSER SHIT FOR MEN BECAUSE WE ARE SUPPOSE TO BE ALPHA (and it looks gay as fuck, it's hot when a chick does it, but it's still loser tier)

    YOU GAIN BENEFITS FOR CUMMING WITH A WOMEN BECAUSE OF THE CHEMICALS SHE RELEASES AND THE HIT YOU GET WHEN CUMMING IS THE SAME AS JERKING OFF, BUT THE CHEMICALS OFF SET THE CHEMICALS YOU DUMBASSES STOP MAKING THESE THREADS

    • 7 days ago
      Anonymous

      And in both cases, you fucking retard, you coom.
      So your whole argument about coom has nothing to do with coom, only the circumstances surrounding it. Meaning it's completely pointless.

      • 7 days ago
        Anonymous

        you dont have sex anyways, so it doesnt matter

        oither than insulting you though. I will say that the effect of gains is completley person to person. Some people for more energyized after blowing a load, and in return their performacne will go up, thios i s typicalkly senn with sex. The oppoosite is jerkingo ff See the difference?

        my hands r cold sorry

        • 7 days ago
          Anonymous

          >you dont have sex anyways, so it doesnt matter
          Interesting projection anon.
          >Some people for more energyized after blowing a load, and in return their performacne will go up, thios i s typicalkly senn with sex. The oppoosite is jerkingo ff
          moron what?

        • 7 days ago
          Anonymous

          >my hands r cold sorry
          Take that Putin!

      • 7 days ago
        Anonymous

        No fappers are not interested in reality. Someone who unironically does no-fap was someone who played DnD in high school and other retarded shit that requires imagining that magic really exists. They think that your body magically knows its fucking a chick and that somehow also magically makes you stronger. They live in a weird fantasy. Women think they're weird hence why they are desperate to try anything to get laid

    • 7 days ago
      Anonymous

      Only 'betas' obsess over being 'alphas'. Chad thinks you just need to be yourself.

      • 7 days ago
        Anonymous

        I literally dont care about either, but since people are talking about sex vs jerking off everyone here is clearly mentally ill

        >you dont have sex anyways, so it doesnt matter
        Interesting projection anon.
        >Some people for more energyized after blowing a load, and in return their performacne will go up, thios i s typicalkly senn with sex. The oppoosite is jerkingo ff
        moron what?

        The test boost/loss is marginal. Therefore the varying energy spike is a person to person basis. When I blow a good proper load, the last thing I want to do is lift. But say I'm really fucking hot and heavy, I could do at minimum 5 more reps on the leg press or some shit. So take someone (maybe yourself) and assume sex = energy boost and jerkoff = mood stablizer this is the debate people talk about.

        >my hands r cold sorry
        Take that Putin!

        its cold in my room in the summer (AC) and hot in the winter, in the middle of it being cool outisd and AC still on...

        • 7 days ago
          Anonymous

          >So take someone (maybe yourself) and assume sex = energy boost and jerkoff = mood stablizer this is the debate people talk about.
          Again, WHY would one be a boost and one a stabilizer when phsyiologically they're the exact same fucking thing.
          Assuming you have access to a leg press and, more unlikely for a nofapper, a girl to fuck, try both scenarios out and report back to us which one lets you grind out a few extra reps.

          • 7 days ago
            Anonymous

            it's simply becasue it feels better mentally to fuck the shit out of a women and make her cum on your cock, than it does to jerk your dick in a room alone right?

            The chemical release meme, is not actually a meme btw.

            I don't have sex, not a nofapper, but the original reason I got into fitness was to make women masturbate to the thought of me, so I researched all this shit. (I should mention that the THOUGHT of fucking a women is why I listen to some songs in the gym, and it boosts my energy, so it must correlate somehow)

            • 7 days ago
              Anonymous

              Not the guy you're replying to but link your "research" so we can all laugh at you

              • 7 days ago
                Anonymous

                Oxytocin

                Why would I have it for a rainy day? You can believe me if you want, up to you.

              • 7 days ago
                Anonymous

                >link me your research
                >doesn't link it
                Wow, I'm shocked. Your next response is 100% going to be "durrr do your own research". Brainlets.... you are all the same

              • 7 days ago
                Anonymous

                Not yim but uf you had any interest in this topic you would already know this. You obviously have never heard of the chemical differences which automatically put anything you have to say in the trash. Do you're own homework retard/obvious degenerate coomer.

              • 7 days ago
                Anonymous

                >do you own homework
                Kek, called it

                >link me your research
                >doesn't link it
                Wow, I'm shocked. Your next response is 100% going to be "durrr do your own research". Brainlets.... you are all the same

              • 7 days ago
                Anonymous

                Why would I remember the names from when I started all the way till now? I agree with your point but yeah.

                It's the same shit with macros/micros. I researched them like an autist, so now I just kinda "know" I can't explain it for shit though.

                >link me your research
                >doesn't link it
                Wow, I'm shocked. Your next response is 100% going to be "durrr do your own research". Brainlets.... you are all the same

                no you don't need to, I'm just saying there is a difference, The chemical is there but there is more to it. Like I said though, Oxytocin.

              • 7 days ago
                Anonymous

                >still not linking research
                You're wrong and you know it. If you link whatever "research" you've done you're going to get torn to shreads so you'd rather remain delusional if it means you can keep living in the fantasy where if you don't jerk off you'll be rewarded with a girlfriend kek

              • 7 days ago
                Anonymous

                oh you think I'm nofapping I see why you think I'm delusional now.

                No i jerk off like 2-3 times a week, to porn. Sex with a women releases the pari-bonding chemical that makes it "feel" more intimate, this in turn can have + or - mental gainz. Other than that it's the same as jerking off.

                The novelty of each is completely different though.

            • 7 days ago
              Anonymous

              >listen to me, the weird mental case narcissist who doesn't actually fuck
              Nah bro I'm sweet.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      >YOU GAIN BENEFITS FOR CUMMING WITH A WOMEN BECAUSE OF THE CHEMICALS SHE RELEASES AND THE HIT YOU GET WHEN CUMMING IS THE SAME AS JERKING OFF, BUT THE CHEMICALS OFF SET THE CHEMICALS YOU DUMBASSES STOP MAKING THESE THREADS
      Yeah the chemicals man, I have some crystals that enhanceifate the chemical feedback

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        >what are pheromones?
        >what is MHC?

  11. 7 days ago
    Anonymous

    Both are correct. Whacking your peepee and having the seggs are two completely different things, anon.

  12. 7 days ago
    Anonymous

    You morons really debating that there's no difference between fucking and nutting in your hand?

    • 7 days ago
      Anonymous

      FUCKING
      RIGHT
      DUDE
      WAHT THE FUCK

    • 7 days ago
      Anonymous

      There's literally no physical difference, just mental.

      • 7 days ago
        Anonymous

        Mental is a pretty big thing, also

        >There's literally no physical difference
        I highly doubt this

  13. 7 days ago
    Anonymous

    Day 4 of nofap:
    My balls are hurting and I feel my mind slipping: started seeing faces of frogs in vegetables pictures

    • 7 days ago
      Anonymous

      Day 5 pf nofap: the frog delusions are getting worse, I can't even appreciate art anymore

  14. 7 days ago
    Anonymous

    >self proclaimed alphas make sex into this mind altering power-boosting grail that must be obtained as often as possible
    Kek. When you hear that it's either because they still put pussy on a pedestal because they only get very little or because they are sex addicts.
    In both cases their ramblings should be completely discarded.

    • 7 days ago
      Anonymous

      sex is better than masturbation purely for chemical gains, fundamentally they are the exact same, both can be had as much or as little as wanted, it literally doesn't matter.

  15. 7 days ago
    Anonymous

    >Coom to porn = you waste energy
    >Coom in pussy = you take the girls energy to become stronger

  16. 7 days ago
    Anonymous

    There is only one thing I belive nofap will give you: the determination to go talk to girls. You might come off as desperate so it can be a double-edged sword.

    • 7 days ago
      Anonymous

      You shouldn't need "determination" to talk to girls to begin with.

      • 7 days ago
        Anonymous

        You don't need to be fit either but here we are.

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          Here you are, you mean. I don't lift for women either.
          I know this is hard for you to conceptualize, but some of us already got women before we were into fitness and we just lift because we like it.

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            What a cope

            • 6 days ago
              Anonymous

              Correct, having to lift in order to get girls is a huge cope.
              Having to refrain from touching your own dick just to have the courage to talk to a girl is an even bigger cope.

  17. 7 days ago
    Anonymous

    >Be on no fap for 7 days due to business trip
    >constantly spend time around 22-28 yo cuties from science (lifesciences ftw)
    >flirt around, drink a bit, sorta make out
    >one of the most amazing times of my life
    >got super social and made tons of new friends
    >come home, fap, feel awful
    >get socially awkward again

    Jup, I guess it is nofap time for me. Starting with day 1 today.

    • 7 days ago
      Anonymous

      >high mental stimulus and excitement from flirting and having new life experiences
      >intense arousal from making out, undressing her, licking, kissing, grabbing and slapping her everywhere
      >deep reactions from feeling her pheromones
      >enjoying the moments of going slow and passionate, going hard and fast
      >going deep in her and feeling her warmth as you fill her with cum
      >feel the waves of pleasure while embracing her and enjoying each others' company afterwards
      versus
      >feel the urge to feel good out of boredom
      >watch absurdly unrealistic depiction of sex
      >rub dick until ejaculation
      >rewarded for doing nothing, feel empty
      >repeat
      It cannot possibly be the same, not even fucking close, the only thing in common is ejaculating
      Stop fucking up your reward pathways and go talk to people
      It is okay to masturbate sometimes, just unironically make friends and quit porn

      Improve your social setting instead of stopping to touch your dick

      • 7 days ago
        Anonymous

        > Improve your social setting instead of stopping to touch your dick
        It is both connected in one feedback loop though. Less fap -> striving for more (female) attention -> more outgoing -> more sex -> less fap
        You can jump onto that cycle on any point. Easiest for me was the nofap. Been there before my last relationship, am there again after ending it 2 months ago.

        I had a serious question about this whole "having sex makes you produce more attractive chemicals which bring women to you" and yadda yadda
        While it sounds bullshit and i dont usually believe your 4choon incel bullshit, (sorry, quick story i swear) i remember (2020) i had sex with that girl and then came back to my hometown where i had to meet/host this old time friend (female), it ended up in me booking an airbnb for her.
        It was raining af so i spent the night with her, didnt care since she was a friend.
        But after asking me how my weekend went, who was this girl i was seeing etc, she literally acted like she was throwing herself at me.
        "Hey anon see i lost some weight!" proceeds to lift her tshirt up to her SHOULDER to show me her hip bone, like bro youre literally showing me your boobs.
        When we wanted to sleep : "are you okay if we cuddle? Like spooning?"
        "Are you always sleeping with your tshirt on ? Id take it off..."

        So yea : it seems girls become weirder when they KNOW youve been having sex, but surely thats not just pheromones bullshit right ? That must be some social thing too or whatever ?

        Those are two things combined. You appear more valuable to girls if others are attracted to you. See it as some sort of peer-review. And (as with guys) girls try their hardest with what they cannot get. It is also why some tend to go for married people, apparently they are a good catch and it is more of an achievment if you bag em.

      • 7 days ago
        Anonymous

        > It cannot possibly be the same, not even fucking close, the only thing in common is ejaculating
        Stop fucking up your reward pathways and go talk to people
        It is okay to masturbate sometimes, just unironically make friends and quit porn
        This

  18. 7 days ago
    Anonymous

    I coomed in the same girl 4 times yesterday and I can guarantee you porn is an unhealthy addiction, it’s a crutch to keep men docile and turn them into cucks. Give up porn and stop lusting for women on a computer screen when you can fuck them yourself. Just fix your mind.

    • 7 days ago
      Anonymous

      How the hell am I supposed to fulfill my incest fantasies then gay? I don't even have sisters

      • 7 days ago
        Anonymous

        You only got those incest fantasies from watching porn. Cmon man

  19. 7 days ago
    Anonymous

    I dunno but sex always makes me rock hard for the whole time yet sometimes I can’t even finish a wank because I lose interest

  20. 7 days ago
    Anonymous

    None of it affects your gains dumbass. If you buy into nofap you had no brain to begin with.

  21. 7 days ago
    Anonymous

    I know you are a retarded coomer but how hard is it to understand that sex with a woman has a drastically different hormonal outcome to beating your dick while staring at internet porn

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      stoic detected

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        Fucking kek the stoic is my favorite because in one breath he’ll say the most racially charged shit ever and then in the next he’ll cite some ancient obscure civilization that “had it all figured out” (they agree with him one one singular thing)

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        nice retarded meme but it has quite a few too many words and therefor the person who made it must be a leftist

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          we already know reading is not a nofappers strong point. why dont you try a color by number?

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            BOOM ROASTED!!!!

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        holy fuck I'm crying

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        taking the time to write this tl:dr garbage is more pathetic than any no fapper logic.

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          Taking the time to respond this way to that post is more pathetic than anything. (Loser/stoic detected)

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            >no u response
            cope

  22. 7 days ago
    Anonymous

    Be op "here's my high school fax brah"

    Source: Trust me brah
    Grow a brain op.

  23. 7 days ago
    Anonymous

    You guys idolize sex too much

  24. 7 days ago
    Anonymous

    So I see a lot of you guys on here talking about shit that boosts your test, lowers your test, etc and it’s kinda pissing me off so let me just end this whole argument for you guys

    Im 18 years old. Been lifting and coming here since I was 14. I just graduated high school in June and then went on senior week. Everyone I’m friends with is what you guys would consider a Chad, myself included. We’re popular, have lots of sex with different women, play sports (a good buddy of mine is going to play d1 rugby), are all 6’0+, etc etc. so you can probably infer that we have high test. Let me just TLDR all this shit for you

    >boys, wanna drink hard liquor with me?
    Fuck yeah
    >boys, wanna smoke some gas with me?
    Fuck yeah
    >boys, wanna switch tinder profiles with me and try to set up dates for each other?
    Fuck yeah
    >boys, wanna get some zyn?
    Fuck yeah
    >boys, wanna abstain from porn and masturbation? I heard it increases test by 0.00005%
    Bro what the fuck? Nah man I’m tryna beat my meat *uproarious laughter*

    Chad does all the shit you guys talk about not doing all the time. If you wanna do all this nofap shit and even more Schizo stunts then by all means go ahead but the guy playing sports and going outside all his life is gonna mog you into oblivion unless you actually get your shit together for real.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      This zoomer is correct.
      Kind of sad that a bunch of grown men need a literal kid to have to explain this to them.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      post body

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous
        • 6 days ago
          I hate women

          opinion disregarded

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      You are wise beyond your years

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      >this kills the nofap gays
      Chads do everything they say "lower test"

  25. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    One is caused by a lack of masculinity, and the is caused by the presence of masculinity. Get a grip.

  26. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    When I coom from porn I feel like shit for wasting my time and not having self control.
    When I coom in my gf, I feel euphoric like I just got a massage. Its really that simple

  27. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    think of nofappers as the vegans of sexuality. Its a vocal minority on a crusade against something completely normal and even healthy. They are generally not too bright, dont put stock into their gay meme just because they spam it everywhere.

  28. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    Neither are true

  29. 6 days ago
    uvo11

    Neither. The leading cause of gain loss is observing these sequentially repeated Arabic numerals

  30. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    What if I coom once a day in the shower imagining fucking women I've met?

  31. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    no-porn is hard for me. been a porn addict for a long ass time, and then hit the end of my addiction with bbc porn. i'm not a fiend for it, but my gf loves bbc and wants to fuck them, and it just happened to be how it is now. i want to cut this shit out of my life, but at the same time its hard and wonder if i should just accept it as our thing/kink

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      Kill her, 20 morons, and yourself

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        shut up moron

  32. 6 days ago
    fatty-bo0m-batty

    You will probably lose your gains if you coom into multiple women a day, unless they're totally devoted to you and your slaves (which they probably aren't because there's no way you're either Machiavellian or charismatic enough to do this); you might even lose your gains if you coom multiple times into *one* woman. The trick, mind you, is to find the right woman (women) to coom into and want to help you find more gains, this is what your goal should really be.

  33. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    Same reason you can get PTSD from being at war and not from playing Call of Duty. Your brain can tell the difference from reality and a computer screen!

  34. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    The thumbnail made me think this was one of those ai images. Someone with access pls do something funny with dan bilzerian

  35. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    what if you coom to girls you fucked/sexted and have an archive of them?

  36. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    I've known bimbos like this, and I have no idea why you would pay these whores to be around you. One of them is already too much of a hassle for me, let alone a whole group of them. Maybe hire 3 of them for a couple of hours just for the experience of feeling a king but after that kick them out before their cackling drives me insane.

  37. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    remember trannies are also women because they identify as women. no difference at all

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      chud has the root in trans, as in transition. They can neither biologically transition nor socially so trans is an invalid category. You're just a mentally ill person either through being a genetic failure or through being indoctrinated and still being a genetic failure due to you being able to be indoctrinated to castrate yourself. YWNBAW

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        fapping = sex
        trans women = women

        sorry but anything else is fascist and bigoted incelspeak

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          >sorry but anything else is fascist
          I accept your terms.
          >and bigoted incelspeak
          Anyone poking your dilated hole is still an incel.

  38. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    >Frequent masturbation lowers testosterone utilization
    https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Alonso_Fernandez-Guasti/publication/6536830_Relationship_between_Sexual_Satiety_and_Brain_Androgen_Receptors/links/54b6c2970cf2e68eb27f0321/Relationship-between-Sexual-Satiety-and-Brain-Androgen-Receptors.pdf

    >Three weeks of abstinence increases testostorone levels
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11760788

    >Masturbation is associated with lower psychological health and reproductive well-being
    https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/14681994.2019.1677883

    >Sperm contains compounds that prolong lifespan, fight cancer & heart disease
    https://vitalrecord.tamhsc.edu/spermidine-rich-foods-may-prevent-liver-cancer-extend-lifespan/

    >Men who are sexually active in their 20s and 30s are more likely to develop prostate cancer
    https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/j.1464-410X.2008.08030.x

    >Masturbation decreases dopamine
    https://sites.tufts.edu/emotiononthebrain/2014/11/18/postcoital-neurochemistry-the-blues-and-the-highs/

    >Watching porn reduces gray matter in prefrontal cortex
    https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamapsychiatry/fullarticle/1874574

    >Porn addiction has similar mechanism with substance addiction
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4600144/

    >Making sperm shortens lifespan of male worms
    https://www.nytimes.com/1992/12/03/us/in-worm-at-least-making-sperm-is-found-to-shorten-a-male-s-life.html

    >Masturbating 3 days in a row decreases sperm count by 20%
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2054949

    >Increasing ejaculation frequency decreases sperm count significantly
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15497706

    >Prevalence of erectile dysfunction doubled between 2004 and 2013
    http://cir.usc.edu/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/Genital-Image-Sexual-Anxiety-and-Erectile-Dysfunction-Among-Young-Male-Military-Personnel.pdf

    >Pornography consumption associated with mental health issues
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6327603/

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      Cheers

  39. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    neither

  40. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    Both. It isn't just the act of ejaculation. Its the psychology. Masterbation tells your brain that you are weak and alone and leads to depression, which lowers test. Sex tells your brain that you have a family to care for and protect, and dramatically increases test.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      rofl, idiocy

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        Cope porn industry consoomer failure

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          my wife sat on my face last weekend and i sniffed and ate her asshole deeply

          how's it feel to chase all these shooting stars? all this testosterone obsession? and you still can't just actually get any?

          btw, 150 test, no trt

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            You are an asshole sucking parasite vessel. I have a family. Keep simping for the porn industry, failure.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      Except that you tell your brain what to do, not the other way around. In fact, "you" ARE your brain. You'd have to be pretty weak in mind and spirit to feel alone and depressed just because you rubbed one out.
      I can tell you don't get laid much because otherwise you wouldn't be pedastilzing sex to this extent. Spoiler alert: guys who get laid will still fap from time to time. You'll discover that one day once you ever cross the threshold...maybe.

  41. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    The hilarious thing about „nofap“ is that it is only practiced by life long incels. Normal men dont care. Plenty of guys still jerk it even if they have a girlfriend. Others dont have sex that often and just masturbate once in a while, but either way they dont give it any deeper thought because they arent obsessing about it like pathetic nofap incels.

  42. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    Reminder that Chad watches porn, eats onions based product and watches capeshit movies
    He's still Chad and mogs you.
    You were not robbed of being Chad, you were simply not born one.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      This is true but I agree with this zoomer more

      https://i.imgur.com/eVSdjhn.jpg

      So I see a lot of you guys on here talking about shit that boosts your test, lowers your test, etc and it’s kinda pissing me off so let me just end this whole argument for you guys

      Im 18 years old. Been lifting and coming here since I was 14. I just graduated high school in June and then went on senior week. Everyone I’m friends with is what you guys would consider a Chad, myself included. We’re popular, have lots of sex with different women, play sports (a good buddy of mine is going to play d1 rugby), are all 6’0+, etc etc. so you can probably infer that we have high test. Let me just TLDR all this shit for you

      >boys, wanna drink hard liquor with me?
      Fuck yeah
      >boys, wanna smoke some gas with me?
      Fuck yeah
      >boys, wanna switch tinder profiles with me and try to set up dates for each other?
      Fuck yeah
      >boys, wanna get some zyn?
      Fuck yeah
      >boys, wanna abstain from porn and masturbation? I heard it increases test by 0.00005%
      Bro what the fuck? Nah man I’m tryna beat my meat *uproarious laughter*

      Chad does all the shit you guys talk about not doing all the time. If you wanna do all this nofap shit and even more Schizo stunts then by all means go ahead but the guy playing sports and going outside all his life is gonna mog you into oblivion unless you actually get your shit together for real.

      I think you can become more manly/sexually successful at any age

  43. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    If you cum inside a twinks ass you get a bonus test boost

  44. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    The problem is not masturbating you fucking idiots the problem is porn. If you want to fuck a hot woman you have to actually work, improve yourself and be the best man you could be to have a chance, if you want to jerk off to lana rhoades all you have to do is turn on your wi fi. That difference is what keeps you motivated and helps you improve yourself

  45. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    Any one else choosing to do nofap anyway despite having given up on ever losing their virginity?

  46. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    Someone who isn't a drooling retard would come to the logical conclusion that both at bullshit and it doesn't matter

  47. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    Im doing nofap for the sole purpose of having a wet dream and waking up with a pool of thick hot yellow cum in my bed

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