If you use steroids/HGH, you're as mentally ill as a troony using HRT. Sad but true
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If you use steroids/HGH, you're as mentally ill as a tranny using HRT. Sad but true
If you use steroids/HGH, you're as mentally ill as a troony using HRT. Sad but true
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In a world polluted with hormone disrupting chemicals, I don't think increasing your testosterone is so bad. What kind of person would seethe over this?
>I don't think increasing your testosterone is so bad.
your reasons for doing it is because you are not satisfied with what you see in the mirror. you have body dysmorphia. you are mentally ill
nice projection weirdo. how can you pretend to know what anyone else is thinking? you sound like an actually troony who's been taking too much estrogen.
>how can you pretend to know what anyone else is thinking?
Ok then I hope you don't judge trannies for wanting to transition then. You can't possibly know what they are thinking right?
If you’re a man, you can’t be a woman. It’s physically impossible. If you’re a man, you can get bigger using steroids. One is realistic and the other is not, it’s a bad comparison.
They're not using female hormones to try to become a woman, they already believe they are one. The hormones are just trying to make them more physiologically women-like - and they achieve that goal just like you get bigger.
Now if getting bigger was all test did we'd all be trying to get on it but as you know there is a lot more to it.
You just defeated your own point. They already think they’re women, which is impossible, so they’re delusional. If you take steroids to get bigger it’s because you can objectively see your body and what it looks like/how much you weigh and rightfully conclude steroids will make you bigger.
>They already think they’re women, which is impossible, so they’re delusional
But that belief has nothing at all relevant to do with what we're talking about which is taking hormones.
They're rightfully concluding that women's hormones will make them look and maybe act more like a woman, what's the difference?
It's like if we were comparing armies and you said one side is delusional because they think they're all going to allah when they die. That may be true but it's still an army while it's here. It's a red herring what they believe outside of it, same here how is a red herring if they believe they're a woman or not.
Thanks anon, it's genuinely interesting how trying to explain things in babby steps to morons is kind of fulfilling and maybe even helps me to think about things in a different kind of way than I usually do myself.
You’re genuinely amusing.. Your false equivalency makes sense only in your head. Taking hormones of the opposite sex is different than using hormones to enhance the male body. It’s a completely different premise but you’re too dense to see things in any other shade than black and white, you lack the capacity for a nuanced argument. Are women who take birth control also trannies? They’re taking hormones that alter the female physiology.
Your army analogy is beyond moronic kek
The major point of all this is males who go on t get massive backlash from their own bodies to reduce t and up female hormones.
No it’s not, you keep switching points when I keep BTFO’ing you. I take it back, you’re not amusing.. You’re predictable and BORING. A big, moronic BORE.
Goodnight, queerbait
What if you're just old and your test is declining so you just use drugs to bring it back
Fair point
I used to think this was a meme until I met some guys IRL who had abused steroids for years. I don't know if I'd go so far as to make the troony comparison, at least not 1 for 1, but they're easily just as mentally ill as any women getting huge bolt on breasts or those disgusting lip fillers. These guys oozed body dysmorphia and insecurity like nothing else.
moron take.
A man takes hormones so that he can be bigger, stronger, more of a man, etc leading to positive outcomes in the way others judge his body, and thus him. The motivation basically doesn't matter, but whether it comes from a place of insecurity or a desire for self improvement it is far more rational and normal than castrating yourself and injecting female hormones because you literally believe you are "spiritually a woman" or something similar.
Basically steroid users stop short of self mutilation and are not driven by delusions. At worst they're driven by a disorder that is not gay (nor does it involve ripping a hole in your body that you call a vegana), making gear heads leagues better than homohomosexual freakshows.
>take low dose testosterone
>eat whatever you want
>easily get dream body within a year
Feels frickkng GOOD; the fact that it makes people like (you) seethe is just an added bonus
like HRT, steroids are for people who feel like their personality and interior doesn't yet match their exterior. In the case of steroids, it is sad lonely losers trying to make their body match
>lifting weights and dieting are for people who don’t feel like their personality and interior don’t match their exterior, it’s a case of sad lonely losers trying to make their body match
>lifting weights is bad
> your reasons for doing it is because you are not satisfied with what you see in the mirror. you have body dysmorphia. you are mentally ill
Kekekekek
weights is bad
never said that. the fact that you have to strawman me with that just shows you have no cogent rebuttal. and you're also probably having a hard time accepting you are indeed mentally ill
You’re such a moron. I was implying you could say the exact same thing about people who lift weights, and it is a bad argument.
lifting weights is different from injecting yourself with illicit substances that have a host of side effects. if you can't comprehend the difference, then it's confirmed you are mentally ill
That wasn’t your argument, moron. Your argument was that you take drugs because you’re unhappy with your body and that’s BAD. People lift weights because they’re unhappy with their body, so following your line of logic, anything you do because you’re unhappy with your body is bad.
Learn to form a cogent argument, moron.
>so following your line of logic, anything you do because you’re unhappy with your body is bad.
no, that is your conclusion that you're thrusting upon me because you have no retort of your own. i never said that. let me repeat it again since you're slow in the head: lifting weights is not the same as injecting yourself with illicit substances.
seems like the juice is getting to your head, making you too emotional and incapable of simple reading comprehension
I’m aware that injecting drugs and lifting weights aren’t the same activity kek.
You posted this. These are your words. Replace taking testosterone with lifting weights, is your point still valid? This is how logic works, you frickin noob
Don’t waste your time arguing with literal morons. Anyone who has 2 brain cells understands and agrees with you, you’re just wasting time.
>Replace taking testosterone with lifting weights, is your point still valid?
but i didn't say that so it doesn't matter. and i clarified in my following post that they aren't the same. why are you desperate to get me in some gotcha? you clearly don't care much for having an honest discussion on the topic. you sound an obstinate teenager that will do anything but admit he has a drug problem
If roids are bad BECAUSE you are doing it because you’re unhappy with what you see in the mirror, then all things you do for that reason are bad. That’s basic logic. He’s just using your own reasoning. Or are you reneging on all things you do because you’re unhappy with your self image being bad?
Also if you don’t mind me asking, what’s your IQ?
>He’s just using your own reasoning.
yes he's going to a different example (that i clarified as being different for the 20th fricking time) because he can't stay on topic and knows he doesn't have a leg to stand on in this discussion
So if you’re unhappy with your body, it’s okay to do things to change it?
>it’s okay to do things to change it?
absolutely. go lift weights, it's great for you. that's a very normal thing to do. most normal people out there can achieve something they are proud of with weight training and eating right. that's how 99.999999% of humanity did it and it worked out great for them (obviously the concept of weight training is more modern but you get what i mean).
injecting your ass with illicit substances that have a host of side effects is not a normal thing to do. it crosses a threshold where i wonder if the person is in a stable state of mind. they're trying to reach some unobtainable goal no doubt encouraged by looking up to roided bodybuilders (not unlike trannies obsessed with learning how to act/dress/be a girl). they're willing to permanently damage their body to try and obtain this ideal (not unlike trannies). if you can't see the clear parallels, i don't know what else to say. maybe you're too far gone in that case
You are literally too moronic to have a conversation with. You’re just smart enough to cobble words together to make coherent sentences but too stupid for abstract thought and logical deductive reasoning.
Based moron DYEL still not getting the point
>no argument
>launches into ad hominems
as expected of a mentally ill roider. i hope you get your BD under control man
it makes lifting weights more fun. it helps people with hard labor jobs to be able to work and lift weights 6 days per week and still recover. and people in the past didn't have their bodies full of microplastics that are disrupting their hormones. i think the fact that you are seething over a male taking relatively safe male hormones says something about your own mental problems. and yes they are pretty safe. more people die from the vax than roids. 1000x more people die from medical practice every year. more people die form being struck by fricking lightening every year.
>roidmonkey thinks roids good but vaccines bad
why am i not surprised...
is that your argument? how many people have died from roids last year?
>how many people have died from roids last year?
i'll contend i don't have stats, but i also know you don't have any legitimate stats on loads of people dying from the (assuming you mean the) covid vaccine. cherry-picked articles about a handful of people having complications from it when hundreds of millions have gotten it is not proof that it's unsafe. people have always had adverse reactions from every piece of "medicine" ever, that's just how a normal distribution works
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Fricking this. Thanks for looking out for us fellow soldiers anon.
Don't roads shrink your balls? Ounds like something a troony would do. Doesn't sound normal or healthy to me.
Roids
Yes there's no real way around that unless you supplement with hcg or just deal with a small sack.
If you don't like how you look at your natural
max potential then you 100% have body dysmorphia.
>get roided up for female attention
>only get noticed by gays
>face and body eventually gets destroyed by acne and blemishes, dick shrivels into a peanut
>dropped by the gays and girls, left with nothing but your disfigured body
many such cases!
Your nuts shrink not your dick, women do like it, and the sides are easily taken care of by basic AIs. At Least have the vaguest idea what you’re talking about please
99% of the posters here think 1x cycle of test 500 will destroy your endocrine system. They have no idea what steroids are, how to use them effectively and safely, and more importantly, how to use them.
I swear most the seething is because being on gear is an exclusive club, and guess what? Most you gaygets aren't invited. Kek
99% of the posters here think 1x cycle of hrt will destroy your endocrine system. They have no idea what hrt is, how to do it effectively and safely, and more importantly, how to use them.
I swear most the seething is because being on hrt is an exclusive club, and guess what? Most you gaygets aren't invited. Kek
How do you do it in such a way as to guarantee it doesn't destroy your endocrine system?
think about it. If that above anon is correct that trt (testosterone replacement therapy) won't frick up your endocrine system, then hrt (hormone replacement therapy) won't either. In fact trt is a subset of hrt. The fact roidtrannies literally don't understand this is fricking hilarious. Or they do understand it and lie their asses off about it. Which is even funnier.
Yes but I'm also bigger than you and always will be. Normies have also been disillusioned to think that fake natties are the standard for those that actually lift, so in the eyes of society, you will always be dyel.
>inb4 post body
Done. Now you. I could use a good chuckle.
based graveposting, frick OP for being a fricking homosexual.
>GOOD MORNING GODDAMNIT
>nattys never post bodies because they never look impressive
No one want to take roids you morons, thats just the best performance enhancing things there are, if you dont want to actually start looking good stay natty
>Butt naked roider in the mirror
God all roiders really are homosexuals
Yeah? So what, it's fun
I lost both of my testicles 15 years ago to cancer, so I'm legally juicing. HA!
Do you just run TRT, or do you ever throw in extra shit in the mix?
correct, except they're cringe, and I'm gigabased
What if i only take creatine and zinc ? Am i based??
Why are you taking those?
Are you unhappy with your physical appearance… LIKE A troony???
Frick…
You are a roider.
Though I agree that taking steroids is taking it too far, people who aim for a better body just want to improve the body they have, they do not think they should have a fundamentally different body, to the degree they cut off pieces. In a way it's the opposite of trannies, ISTizens embrace the body they have and want to build upon it, they don't want to destroy it and replace it with the body of a different gender or race or whatever. I that regard, trannies and furries are much closer related.
Don’t bother reasoning with them. They are immune to logic and rationality.
>to the degree they cut off pieces
Ok forget them then. It's no different than the ones that just take estrogen. It's taking drastic measures to chemically alter their body because they're unhappy with it
Post body
>cant argue the merits of the topic
>changes the topic entirely
More predictable than my morning shit
DYEL detected. I don’t listen to somebody unless they can bench more than me.
How much can you lift?
225 for working sets of 6-8
True. Roid trannies will never be real men.
Yes, and?
Neuro normative are such betas, if you don’t do what other sheep do you’re le wrong
i came for the sneed and feed
it makes sense if you're gonna dope up to make it big on insta or whatever to make money, but doping just to boost yourself up in public, be it for being short, ugly , etc. shit dude.
>Sad but true
this phrase triggers me so hard ngl
it comes off pathetic
>be easily in the top 5% of physiques for age group
>cycle 500mg test for 12 weeks
>feel like a god
>cycle off and arrive in the top 1%
>women have no reference for natty vs non natty.
>claim natty and absolutely mog DYEL natties
Feels good man. I love the cope and pain it causes natties. Listen, you go do your little 1hr workouts and head to the club the same day. I'm quite happy to cycle and sleep. Little gaygets.
>just take a little
but I thought that it was impossible to keep roid gains?
I love seeing roidmonkeys get exposed for the shams they are and piss and shit all over the place throwing every cope under the sun at you
>NOOOOOOOOOO IT'S DIFFERENT FROM TRANNIES
>Y-YEAH WELL I'M BIGGER THAN YOU
It's like watching an H addict turn around his problem onto you. Seen't it a hundred times man
>this obsessed
Post body and last time you had sex
Found out the reason why I wasn't making any gains bros...
same, you doing the cream or injections?
I started 3 weeks ago doing injections 50mg test c and 250iu hcg 3 times a week
Will measure again when I hit the 6 week mark to check if its working
Bought from some EU UGL no doctor just on my own
Insulin needle to the side delt, doesnt really bother me just takes a long time to draw and inject
good luck, hope it works for you, I got cream from a doctor, doing another test in a week to see if its working
Where do you guys buy tren?
google the word for the short sleep people take in the afternoon + the steroid word starting with g which is also the word for a round toothed machine part
idk if this will get me banned but yolo
>siesta cog
>???????
idk about them. i seem to remember them having a bad reputation from back in the days on promuscle. i might be confusing them with someone else though.
theyre very highly rated in eroiders
I usually just find the brand I want there and look for the cheapest trusted website
I’m supposed to get my levels tested tomorrow and this thread has me questioning if I should even go
You only got to lose money
There's loads of ways to increase your T naturally. Look into fasting, something humanity has been doing for thousands of years
fasting lowers your test you fricking moron. ironically if he does what you advise before going to the dr, they will prescribe him test. it's actually a trick people do to get prescribed test.
>nooooo you cannot drink buff potions
Shut up Black person, go level up on some swamp while I raid dungeons
I don't take androgens yet but anyone admonishing men for attempting to cultivate themselves into the closest possible reproduction of a god is not a friend. My fellow Black folktompers will understand.
gear is for losers
simple as
You don't even have the test levels of an average GI from 1940.
I hope their heart explode as soon as possible, disgusting drugged monsters. You are cheating, nobody likes you but the ones like you. You brag about something you didn't achieve with you own sacrifice. Get a shot and die soon.
No the difference is that trannies are delusional and think that they are women with wieners or whatever
I just wanna put on more muscle with less effort
It’s so weird to do this shit for what amounts to a hobby too
most of the people on this site make their whole personalities hating things and crying over current thing. not too surprising
>malding roidtroony itt
>defends hormone use
>says take more drugs
>accuses others of roidtransphobia
You will never be a real natty.
All men that lift want to be more jacked than they are naturally. Why wouldnt a man want to be more jacked than he is? Or more dominant? Of course, there are side effects that can be quite terrible that you'd have to deal with. If not for the side effects then all men would use steroids. If you don't want to do them because of the side effects then that's fine. Own up to it, you pussy.
I like being able to scratch my back without assistance.
This. homosexuals here will take creatine and zinc and vitamin D and a thousand other supplements with the hopes of some vague acceleration toward their goal physique or strength, but then turn around and seethe at roiders because they're taking the only thing that actually works yet comes with side effects. If not for the sides, every man who ever cared about lifting would take them just as they take creatine and whey, provided it were as easy as popping a pill or slonking some shake. Unfortunately, there are no free meals, so natties can either kick their feet and cry about making shit progress, or buck up and learn a few things about the HPTA, all its interactions with other bodily systems, and how to manage the burden that excessive androgens place on the body. But they won't, because they want everything to be easy, thoughtless and riskless. They just want to coast through life on instinct like an animal when god gave them the ability to reason and basedence gave them the ability to alter themselves on a near molecular level.
>All men that lift want to be more jacked than they are naturally.
no they don't. if you're not happy with how you are at your genetic limit, you have insecurity issues
You’re not taking into consideration the fact that not all people blast crazy amounts of steroids to look like freaks. Some people roid to get to natty limit and then maintain, achieving what would otherwise take years of work in a fraction of the time.
Ever think of that, smart guy?
Frick the limit. I want to be a beast, not a twink phaggot.
>your genetic limit is a twink phaggot
sounds like a genetic (You) problem
Not even close, you delusional phaggot. Get on your fricking knees and service your master.