Ignoring the muscle insertions and bone structure, is this achievable natty?
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Ignoring the muscle insertions and bone structure, is this achievable natty?
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yeah actually
I cant believe hes 30. He looks like a zoomer pussy slayer
no.
you will NEVER get muscle shapes like that natty
EVER
you might be able to manage the raw numbers, lbs of muscle and bf% natty, but YOU WONT LOOK LIKE THAT
the ONLY way to look like that is roids.
i think it is, but this is great genetics
his legs are shit though
Jeff Seid is a strange case where I could imagine him being natty, with 1/10,000 genetics but I could just as well see him being roided to the gills and a good case can be made for either one.
Other fitfluencers are much more obvious
he did use when prepping for olympia but besides that im pretty sure he either came clean or did a real trt.
he is what you could aspire to be natty on op's pic
God damn you morons. He literally competed in mr Olympia. You cannot be that stupid
Nobody said he didnt roid to become youngest ifbb pro at age 19? that is pretty universally accepted
however if you dont look like this after 15 years of lifting you are just genetic dead end and should probably have a nice day. i have trained 13 years and look better than this and lift more than jeff. i dont know what else to tell you
>Other fitfluencers are much more obvious
youre either ignorant or just a noob.
That was Mr. Olympia before men's physique was turbo massive roided out and he still got last because he wasn't big enough.
yes
the power of lighting, angle and pump. so many anons dont understand as they are not versed in the art of selling an illusion
dude he looks like shit
is this really it?
aspiring to have wide clavicles and flail some dumbbells around?
W.T.F
>dude he looks like shit
said the dyel.
Body. Now.
height/weight?
He is 5'9 and about 170lbs. He used to claim 6'3 and 220lbs and 5% bf etc but that's obviously not true. His weight and bodyfat is not 100% confirmed but afaik there is some evidence that his stage weight was 168lbs and he is obviously 5'9 or under. He hasnt competed in a long time but he actually had better physique back in the day so... Anyways he falls somewhere between 170-180lbs with abs.
i get clear abs at 210lbs and im 5'11
i dont know if you would look as full but youd honestly get pretty close, 170lbs is light as frick
another thing is theres 0% chance he doesnt have a pump in the pic
Tips for bulking up to 200?
Yea but you are IFBB pro on steroids,. If you have abs at 210lbs and 5 '11 you are LITERALLY roiding IFBB pro there is no if. So you most likely lying but you can drop your @ here and post pic too ill check you out
>He used to claim 6'3 and 220lbs
>2012
he was 18 at that time, maybe he was a late bloomer and had a growth spurt, and afaik he claims 6' which is believable
I am the height autist. I am impartial. Jeff seid is not 6'3, and he is not 6'0. His range is somewhere within 5'9 - 5'10.5
He won 4 mr. olympia's
i hope that answers your question
Jeff only competed at the Olympics once and placed dead last lol
oh shit you're right; that's what i get for not fact checking
He's still too big and dry for a natty
Yes
It’s possible but only if you lift for years and then cut. You can’t look anything close to that lean for a long time natty and your not going to be building muscle looking like that
>Ignoring what makes him look good, is this achievable natty?
If you ignore the muscle insertions, you're ignoring what makes that physique so attractive and may as well be a Polish truck driver.
at 5'9" and a small head, yes. at 6'2" and a normal (>24") head, frick no.
Dominated by Weider
is he trying to mog this senior citizen? the audacity!
That's the homoesexual israelite responsible for the male boob obsession in bodybuilding, that took us away from the classic physique towards beef cows.
its so much worse.
He made Arnold the subversion vehicle he is up until today, from selling trash supps promising Arnie physique in 8 weeks, to governator to todays woke Arnie statements. Weider helped subverting masculinity into a feminine body cult that is modern body building. he is one of the greatest subverters of the modern age. His religious-ethnic background ofc is pure coincidence...
>He made Arnold the subversion vehicle he is up until today,
Good.
men had a lot natural high T back then, and no amount of exogenous T, for some reason, can give modern men that high T look. Maybe we should experiment and starting giving 13 year olds low dose T for 15 years and see what happens.
Testosterone is lower, but that's not the cause so much as estrogen receptor activity. It's not an unfortunate coincidence that so many organic, and inorganic chemicals are estrogen receptor agonists. Nature wants you to be stressed, weak and pudgy. Aromatase inhibitors benefit both genders.
>Testosterone is lower,
yeah but if you look at old pics of men, they are testosteronized as frick. its its deep inside them. like sure a man can do T and hgh and grow manlier looking, but it seems more like external than it does internal. even the girls back then, you could tell had higher T too. the rougher looking skin.
Remove "testosteronized" from your vocabulary. Most of the androgen expression in adult males comes from DHT, which you'll never believe, is suppressed by estrogen. The testosterone that would have been 5AR-reduced to DHT is overwhelmingly today aromatized instead.
>men had a lot natural high T back then, and no amount of exogenous T, for some reason, can give modern men that high T look.
i wonder if modern men are actually taller because of lower T in general. never heard that hypothesis before.
>because of lower T in general
this is possible. since taller men definitely seem low t. there is definitely a manly height and i think its 6 feet and under. but width also matters.
COPE
>i wonder if modern men are actually taller because of lower T in general.
its possible. but i think we had many giants back then.
No
probably not. .
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Yes, but you actually have to work for it, anon. You can't just say "look at me I'm so shredded" and you stare at your pasty, skinny ass in the mirror. Work sets your muscles free, anon!
>Ignoring the muscle insertions and bone structure, is this achievable natty?
No because the leverages and tension that produces is largely the product of those two things. If you don't broad clavicles you're probably never going to have a full chest. If you don't have broad shoulders you'll probably never have nice looking lats, if you don't have broad wrists you'll never have thick forearms. Even if he never roided he would be head and shoulders in size and shape above the average framecel even if they roided.