I'm 5'4. Is it over? I'm also pretty socially moronic, I have lots of great friends but absolutely no women in my life. I don't think I'm shit moron tier but I can feel how I'm literally disregarded by women due to my average looks and especially my height. What do I do? Will abusing steroids and getting disgustingly massive offset this? Will I ever have intimate relationships with women ever?
ruminating and being blackpilled does nothing, it’s pointless
yeah i know, im not trying to be blackpilled, i just want to know what actions i can take to remedy this fricking pit of despair
desu… go to (an Eastern Orthodox) Church
not a christgay but the one time i was dragged to a church there were fricking loads of 7+/10 chicks and they actually talked to me and asked to sit next to me
it was a gay hillsong church tho
yeah hillsong is homosexual and none of the explanations in “nondenom” churches help, their spirituality is out of whack
You look fine but sound like an autist, rods won't help
Easiest time getting laid was meeting friends of friends
true but all of my friends get no b***hes either, also i probably am an autist. Im super normal irl but i have no clue how to talk to women, its like a fricking fog wall to me.
hair needs more conditioner, looks dry
maybe smear a layer of product on top
i conditioner the frick out of it but i bleach it from time to time so its probably just a bit damaged
you look like you can tribemaxx and maybe make enough to get a good shiksa or at least subvert her morals
i do have a big fricking israelite nose
All short men who made it that I knew have one thing in common.
They're incredibly likable and they make friends with people incredibly easy.
So if you're a manlet and you have manlet rage you have to work on that really hard. Learn jokes and learn to read people, be likable without being disingenuous and people will not care about your height.
I feel this, i try really hard to be sociable and im definitely the most social and normal person of my friends. I just can't shake the feeling that i somehow give off an autistic incel vibe that just repels women, like i have no issue making friends with guys at all. Plus how do i actually polish these skills if i never know what people are actually thinking of me?
It's fine and perfectly normal to feel insecure, but you have to offset it in your head somehow otherwise you might tumble down the deep end.
The catch 22 of thinking that you give off a weird vibe is that you might just start giving off a weird vibe just because you're thinking it.
You will never know what people are actually thinking, but if you're not actually autistic or ass burgers you have the feeling, one social interaction goes better then the other - reassess what you did right and what you did wrong and adjust. But never lose your sense of self, remaining genuine is super important.
Have you had any success with the ladies?
Not since high school nope. Back then nobody had expectations or gave a shit as long as you looked like you showered. Now I feel like I need to do this incel "maxxing" shit just to keep up. Every girl that likes me on dating apps is obese, unattractive, or completely insane(like actually)
I've literally got the same face/head as you and I do pretty good with women
>another insecure manlet post on IST
Just people waking up to reality.
nobody cares about you or what you look like. just fricking live life and do what makes you happy, the rest will follow.
stop thinking about shit and just follow your instincts and for sure never make a thread like this again, or any posts seeking sympathy
yeah but thats just bullshit, if i just live without ever thinking about any course of action regarding women ill just go to work and come home and then all the sudden im 45 and havent had sex in 25 years
if you think a girl is cute, why dont you follow your instincts of thinking shes cute and go up and talk to her? you fricking idiot
I am not gonna sugacoat it. 5'4" is way to short. No Woman will ever go for you as long as she has a choice. You will have to adapt your expectations to the reality of your situation
So I should expect to be alone for the rest of my life according to you?
Not necessary, but you might to have to settle for a Post-Wall woman or a fatty
i would rather kill myself
how old are you son?
I'm 5'3'' unironically and my last gf left her 6' bf for me lmao
this tbh
roiding and getting wider than you're tall is not the way
go back to Algerie Nafri scum, you don't belong here
You have to max your other stats.
Social skills and personality.
Sense of humor.
Ability to relate to people.
That's it.
Kind of look like a brunette Ryan Gosling
Stop being autistic. I'm 6'1 and I don't really have many friends, height and looks have nothing to do with your social life being shit. I'm trying to work on my social skills and trying to make more friends and it's working.
You need to get your mind off of your height, nobody really cares that much. Also get off IST, morons like here believe 6'+ height means you're a god amongst men.
>Will abusing steroids and getting disgustingly massive offset this?
No, that will make it even worse. Unironically become a twink if you want female attention.
Try assuming a different facial expression. You look good but you have a very unwelcoming and stiff vibe
not a bad face. Tips to get a gf.
-be super nice to people
-but be strong money wise, physically
still primal attraction is hard to get. Even 6'2 jacked guys are getting cucked these days. attraction doesn't last long. So status plays a key role in human life.
You need a fresh ass fade bro
I'm 6'3 and I found that I have most success with tall women who are currently talking to a manlet and I approach her while totally ignoring the guy, talking over him as I look down on her while he has to look up, to mog the absolute frick out of him and make him leave.
That’s evil. You shouldn’t treat men like that.
Why is it evil? Are strong animals "evil" if they drive away the weak? Or is it just basic nature under Darwinian conditions? The unconfortable truth is there's no equality in the real world. Even God has his favourites and I'm one of them. Very greatful that I'm blessed with good genes and I will unappologetically leverage every advantage they give me.
Nice appeal to nature fallacy bro. Do you rape whatever woman you want as well? Defecate where you please? Kill other humans at will?
You're displaying psychopathic tendencies, anon, and invoking "Darwinian conditions" is bullshit ad hoc excuse making. How about you be a man, and learn to treat your fellow man with respect?
>Nice appeal to nature fallacy bro. Do you rape whatever woman you want as well? Defecate where you please? Kill other humans at will?
No, because I believe that absolute control over one's urges is what elevates man above beast.
>You're displaying psychopathic tendencies, anon, and invoking "Darwinian conditions" is bullshit ad hoc excuse making.
Damn you're right. It actually is bullshit that I made up on the spot. Didn't think you'd see through it right away. You have my respect Anon, I guess I should get a grip and be less cruel to others.
> I believe that absolute control over one's urges is what elevates man above beast.
Damn that's some oversimplified meme bullshit
> I guess I should get a grip and be less cruel to others.
Unironically yes. Maybe one day you'll get it.
Ignore the despair posters. It’s definitely not over, but the world definitely does discriminate against short men. They are about the only group that is openly hated without any empathy. However, I’ve seen many short guys git fit, successful, and grow their charisma to a point of constantly getting beautiful women. Just stay out of clubs. Clubs are hard on a short king
Almost all women have a guy's height on their checklist. Anybody saying otherwise is lying, which means it'll definitely be harder to find a woman especially with the other things you listed about yourself. Your best bet is to try and work on your personal shortcomings and just generally being an amiable person.
Wait til you finish growing my man. You should get a growth spurt between 16-18 years old.
DO NOT DO STEROIDS AS A MANLET. It shows everyone how desperate you are. Theres a manlet by where i live who wears lifts and a huuuuge flat top and does roids and he looks fricking hilarious. I laugh every time i see him and he always looks so angry stomping around with his little legs. It will turn you into a caricature. Its like looking at a jacked chihuahua. Its novel and funny but it doesn’t make it a pit bull. Girls would see you as a joke and men would pity or laugh at you