It's an ages old multi-joint movement that has been proved to develop strength and hyperthrophy through your entire upper body pushing kinetic chain. Now get benching, friendo.
I did that. Relied on pec deck for pecs. Wasn't a short experiment either, was an entire year. I've since concluded it and now do low incline smith machine press, so I'm back to doing a press for the pecs & I'm having better results now than I did before.
I think pec deck is really really deceptive. It's hard at the bottom, middle and top, & probably hardest at the top so it feels amazing on the pecs, great squeeze, but an exercise which is hardest at the bottom, in the stretched, lengthened position, & a bit easier at the top, is going to build more muscle.
It sounds like bullshit but that little brief bit of relaxation on the pecs at the top of a press, (compared to the immense strain when your upper arm is parallel to the floor), yes it takes tension off the muscle, but that basically allows you to do more meaningful hard reps, close to failure, whereas on a pec deck there's none of that & you hit failure having done fewer of the reps that really matter. But you don't have to barbell flat bench. There's a variety of presses that tick the boxes.
ohp is unironically worse than benching in the long term. Ask any old time lifter and they will tell you to take it easy on your shoulders. The joint simply doesnt last. This isnt to say that you should never ever do OHP ever again, just to be mindful about it, and dont do it every week. The great thing is you can get your OHP stronger without even doint the movement, since most of it is triceps
Ok
I only do dips for my chest and it’s huge, bench gives me impingement quit doing it years and years ago
>I'm just going to stop benching entirely
wrong.
What's the point of benching other than to brag to your buddies what your bench is?
It's an ages old multi-joint movement that has been proved to develop strength and hyperthrophy through your entire upper body pushing kinetic chain. Now get benching, friendo.
and dips have been proven to be better.
So do both, bench for the big movement and dips for accessories. Every good strenhth program has both.
Strength programs are over-rated, powershitter.
Weak argument as this applies to literally every upper body compound push exercise
how are you going to produce enough systemic fatigue to make your body adapt and grow bigger chest with a goddamn pec deck
i work every muscle in my body directly except for chest, biceps and abs, they only get indirect work and i look better than every single gymcel
won't post body because you're all closet homosexuals who do a lot of cocaine, that kinda yale thing
How do you work them indirectly?
I did that. Relied on pec deck for pecs. Wasn't a short experiment either, was an entire year. I've since concluded it and now do low incline smith machine press, so I'm back to doing a press for the pecs & I'm having better results now than I did before.
I think pec deck is really really deceptive. It's hard at the bottom, middle and top, & probably hardest at the top so it feels amazing on the pecs, great squeeze, but an exercise which is hardest at the bottom, in the stretched, lengthened position, & a bit easier at the top, is going to build more muscle.
It sounds like bullshit but that little brief bit of relaxation on the pecs at the top of a press, (compared to the immense strain when your upper arm is parallel to the floor), yes it takes tension off the muscle, but that basically allows you to do more meaningful hard reps, close to failure, whereas on a pec deck there's none of that & you hit failure having done fewer of the reps that really matter. But you don't have to barbell flat bench. There's a variety of presses that tick the boxes.
>but an exercise which is hardest at the bottom, in the stretched, lengthened position, & a bit easier at the top, is going to build more muscle.
moron
moron
Good choice, unironically.
Decline chest press machine is also based.
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weighted ring push ups and dips are way better than bench
she's kinda cute
ohp is unironically worse than benching in the long term. Ask any old time lifter and they will tell you to take it easy on your shoulders. The joint simply doesnt last. This isnt to say that you should never ever do OHP ever again, just to be mindful about it, and dont do it every week. The great thing is you can get your OHP stronger without even doint the movement, since most of it is triceps