I'm looking to join a martial arts gym but i'm unsure as to what martial art to follow.
i already lift 4 times a week, but i'm looking to do something else to complement my current training.
I'm interested in boxing, BJJ and wrestling.
in terms of goals or what i'm trying to get out of it, i'm looking for haard cardio-based workouts and to be able to hold myself down if i were ever to get into a physial altercations.
wrestling seems really nice, but i also hear it's a high injury sport. boxing seems like the natural fit but i wouldn't want to get into heavy sparring. although really fun, i don't want any head injuries.
thoughts?
boxing is good if you want to get lean
BJJ if you want something useful for living in a culturally enriched area
wrestling if you want both but neither
Which you'd be best at depends on your frame, but all will get you in good shape. I think wrestling is the coolest personally, if I could find a good school I'd be a wrestler
Boxing is more useful for defending yourself than BJJ or wrestling
Frick around and get stabbed, or get your shit stomped out by his friends, or all sorts of horrible things
>Frick around and get stabbed, or get your shit stomped out by his friends, or all sorts of horrible things
Wrestling is fine for this. You can dump someone on their back or their head and then sprint away.
What area do you live in, roughly? It is hard to give a recommendation without knowing what gyms you could go to.
Montreal
This gym seems really good, look for gyms with fighters. It seems that this gym teaches mma in general, so it'd probably be a good fit.
https://tristargymwestisland.com/
>boxing, BJJ, wrestling
all great options
>don't want to spar hard, don't want to risk injury
you're not compatible with martial arts, at least not getting good at them. You shouldn't ever have any sort of confidence in a physical altercation if you won't risk sparring hard or getting hurt.
>you're not compatible with martial arts, at least not getting good at them. You shouldn't ever have any sort of confidence in a physical altercation if you won't risk sparring hard or getting hurt.
You can get to pretty high levels in grappling without significant injury.
you're definitely risking injury the entire time, especially if you're competing which you would want to do if you're doing it for da streets
still, it can be worse.
yeah but OP specifically stated being worried about the injury potential of wrestling and equestrian isn't an option. He could just try not being a pussy but I was telling him like it is fr fr
Yeah I'm just saying, martial arts aren't as injury prone as they seem. Tons of sports that are more popular/acceptable like downhill skiing or steeplechase are much more dangerous.
dont get me wrong, sparring is super fun. it just that getting rocked in the head isn't good for your brain over time. im looking for health benefits and some practical use
again, i wouldn't be looking to compete or become super proficient.
I agree completely, I box and the thought of brain damage makes me uncomfortable, but I've just accepted it. I think if you want to feel confident if you needed to defend yourself with boxing you would need a lot of rounds under your belt, but knowing how to throw punches and keep your base probably puts you past the average person. I would wrestle if I were you, but it's not easy on the joints. BJJ isn't normally as high impact apart from when you start your rounds standing (which you should do if you're worried about self-defense scenarios), but there's always the risk of someone cranking something like a leg lock or holding on too long and getting serious soft tissue damage that can keep you out a while. Any sport where you will learn how to fight and do live drilling comes with inherent risk, you'd have to be pretty unlucky to get too severely hurt grappling though.
boxing is the most useful and the most cardio heavy
They're all useful. I'd say boxing is the most reliably good quality in the USA though.
Anyone got experience or advice on adding martial arts to a lifting program?
I’m looking to get back into bjj (tried a few years ago but got a bad injury a few months in; pretty low coaching input I feel made it a higher injury risk imo anyway learnt a bit about what to look for). I’ve tried out some boxing and Muay Thai for a few weeks each; the boxing was fun but I can’t see myself focusing it only or doing it long term due to brain health reasons though it otherwise seemed low injury risk, the Thai boxing was pretty fun but so much time on kicks and strain on the knees/hips, plus I got an injury pretty quickly (ribs) - bad luck I guess some guys sparred harder earlier than I expected so that’s my fault to a degree. I did like the sparring but for my job probably got a few too many marks on the face.
Both were great cardio, such high effort repeatedly I noticed a big physique comp different each time just a week or two in, more muscular density/hardness, and calf gains. But on the flip side less effort and recovery for lifting and I pretty much just de-loaded instead of lifting.
Bjj also seems the most compatible with lifting as it was easier to scale the effort up or down in rolling section at least, and it’s not a high impact activity (as in sudden impacts on joints are harder on recovery than gradual ones).
Anyway, I want to prioritise lifting progress still. Bjj 3x week ideally to make some progress. Would I be better off going full body on non-bjj days, or spreading out a split with less volume each day but doubling up lifting/bjj?
Yep I do. I will caveat with that I suffered a couple of concussions playing rugby in college and have so far stayed away from striking. Also tore my pec 2.5 years ago doing bjj. Got back into it recently and so far so good. I plan on going light 2 days a week once and doing Muay Thai. I do a 4 day bro split and am still progressing.
What’s your plan for lift + train on same day?
Also how to avoid tearing a pec, sounds rough
When training bjj I just tell my partner no arm bars and to go light. I’m pretty recently back into it and haven’t fricked my shit up yet. I still want to limit it to twice a week though to give my pec time to recover.
I lift before work and train martial arts after work. I WFH so my day is very sedentary otherwise. My chest workouts are pretty limited tbh. I don’t do flat bench anymore. Sometimes I do block press or smith machine if I’m feeling limber kek
kimura time
you are probably too old for wrestling