I’m ottermode at 32 but people don’t seem to be as impressed
This isn’t a demoralization attempt but do people just stop giving a shit about body and mires at my age?
Hell, my boss is a lanklet 6’2 and he seems to get more attention than me
But I’m the only one in my office 79kg lean etc but don’t really get mires like that even with medium shirts and such
Do I have to level up and bulk or accept my time has passed?
I spent my twenties as a skinnyfat and bloomed too late
No one cares about how women over 25 or men over 30 look. You are nothing but a wallet at your age since you fricked up and didnt marry young
Hell, my boss is a lanklet 6’2 and he seems to get more attention than me - STATUS.
but don’t really get mires - WHO CARES
Woman don't like you for two reasons op
A) Theyre woman and are dumb
B) Your self confidence is terrible
Don't listeen to this Black person, he sounds like he's phone posting for a tent in Sanfransicos no go zones.
WORK ON YOURSELF OP. Stop listeening to grifters and woman.
This is why when I was single I dated exclusively out of the workplace.
Women arent like men. Good looks get you in the door, but they heavily respond to status. If a woman is higher than you at work, or sees another guy boss you aroud, then her attraction will shift. I dont like being in a setting where I have to deal with the consequences of that.
At least with dating outside work I can act like Im a hotshot at my job (Im not) and the girl outside of work can be a lawyer, doctor, PA, engineer, consultant, whatever etc. and still respect/be attracted by me.
ottermode in your 30s is gay, bulk up.
I'm 32 trying to get into ottermode.
Thanks for demoralizing me OP
A slim 30-something just looks like a 22 year old. You need to beef up at your age and embrace daddy. Trust me, the girls will love it.
But that's what I want. I'll get heavier once I'm older
Well that’s why no one cares. You just look younger. Big deal.
>you need to age yourself prematurely to become popular
i'm good homosexual
This is the way. I've never really thought ultra lean guys were attractive in the first place, but the older I get the more I think a big muscle daddy is the most attractive. Not fat. Muscles with a little padding. Big enough to pick me up and manhandle me a little.
I mean I’m not in the USA, I’m Australian and no one really cares about fitness in their 30-40s here
You might have better results
Lmao why are Australians so fat? I thought they were meant to be sporty fit chads?
Same as every Anglo country, Ausfailia has been wrecked by feminism, immigration and goyslop.
Does it not make you stand out more amongst fat fricks? Is it halo effect they call if girl with average looks suddenly ranks above average if seen with uggos?
It 100% does. He's an excuse-having Black person, likely an underclass briton blaming it on his conception of Anglo culture or perhaps lack thereof.
>He few for the "working out so people will notice me" and the "I'm the center of the world" meme
If you can afford it, consider reaching out to a therapist anon. good luck brother.
agreed
>ottermode
is it true that otters use stones to crack open clam shells on their bellies?
>is it true that otters use stones to crack open clam shells on their bellies?
is it true that otters use stones to crack open clam shells on their bellies?
>is it true that otters use stones to crack open clam shells on their bellies?
is it true that otters use stones to crack open clam shells on their bellies?
plz respond
>codename: ottermode
Most people in their 30s are overweight or obese, the bar for looking in shape outside of the gym an IST is so fricking low
hey doofus. nobody has ever been impressed by a natty body ever
get on roids or frick off
>Dying at 40
Shiggy diggy
that's a nice thing to say, bro 🙂
>my boss is a lanklet 6’2 and he seems to get more attention than me
It seems life experience answered your question. What do you want from us?
Women won't say shit about your body until you frick them, then they're all over it
You have to use your charm first, then the physical mires come like a flood
Face is everything.
in your late twenties it shifts to career competency
women fear their biological clocks and start to look for a provider and someone more stable
>32
There's your problem. No one is going to be impressed by a shitty middle aged man regardless of his physique. The best you can get is, "he looks good for his age".
>79kg
you're a stick. I was skinny at that weight at lmao "5'11".
Idk why you’re “lmaoing” at his height, that isn’t short at all moron
poast fizeek
surely you're not another fat guy calling others "sticks"
70-80kg is the ideal range for most normal sized people you grotesque fat roidape
women really do not care about a mans physique it's probably like 4th or 5th on their priorities
Sounds like a you problem friend
>me at just under 4 years
>worse in the after pic
What's your point?
This isn't me. Someone is posting my pictures.
Let’s give it a rest 🙂
I’ve seen this picture so many fricking times on this board that people must be genuine DYEL homosexuals that like to take it up the ass
>32
There’s your issue. Nobody cares about some middle aged man coping with his ticking clock by lifting weights.
>6’2 boss gets more mires than me
Probably because he’s taller and most likely better looking then you
And he is his boss. Social status matter once you are over age of 18. OP is mentally 16 its really fricking surreal
Should've started perma-bulking 5 years ago.
36 ottermode here. I am totally happy with my physique. Most 36 year olds have a gay beard, potbelly and fat wife. I am the complete opposite
I do feel like, as a 31 year old (almost 32), that being bigger is better.
That when your a teen and 20s you look young enough that ottermode makes sense visually and looks good.
People expect you to look smaller/leaner to match your younger face/head.
But as you get older, you need to be bigger otherwise you look off.
Think pic related.
There's something off about him; the big man face/head doesn't fit the body.
Like someone took a 30 year old head and put it on a 19 year's old body.
43 here, confirming your theory.
>in your 20's, you're still young enough to pull off the boyishness of otter
>by 30 you're a man, and you should have started to fill out like one. Don't get fat, keep the abs, but you need to drop the little boy aesthetic of otter and get some mass on them bones
Good news, though - it comes back around!
>at 40, abs have become a rarity. If you were sensible, you spent your 30's clean bulking. Regardless of that, though, so many men have begun their slide into fat old age that otter is a commodity again. Better to be athletically built (abs and muscle) but abs > gut.
Don't let yourself get fat if you're actually otter, but start putting on the mass now.
bloattard propaganda
Ottermode = DYEL in a shirt. Always has, always will.
Ottermode doesn’t work on older (25y +) women. At that point they want a stable strong man. They will take a fat man over a Twink at that point.
The only girls that care about ottermode are the same that care about K-pop boys - teenage girls and very young adults.
Op here
Then I have no idea how to get women now. I’m 5’8and this is unironically all I had going. Frick
dont listen to them, go otter & just get big arms. that's all you need. half this crowd are doomers & blatant autists.
This
This board is full of pessimists. A lot of fat people here larp as fit people giving bad faith advice to bring others down. It's honestly pathetic, but then again this is the sewer of the internet.
Why not? Just become strong instead. Eat a bit more. Ottermode might be your current mode but it doesn’t need to be your end.
People are calling us pessimist but genuinely you don’t see women listing for twinks over a certain age. Not saying it cannot happen, just not common. They like them when they are teens.
You can still get women, your body just isn’t a free ticket at that age.
5'8" 175lbs is natty limit unless you're at least 15% body fat. So I'm guessing you're at least 15% body fat. That's why nobody cares.
>Then I have no idea how to get women now. I’m 5’8and this is unironically all I had going. Frick
>my boss is 6'2 and people are paying attention to him
anon are you a moron? Perchance? You dont look for a woman at work, thats just moronic. People assassinate each other in office environment, you go there to look friendly, and to get dosh. Your boss gets attention because he is the boss and the livelihood of your women employees depend on his approval. You are also a manlet.
Yea bro women are HIGHLY susceptive to status. The best part is it can be entirely situational, and even illogical. For example women will lust for a boss at work , sure part of it is that he makes more money. But instinctually they like getting bossed around a bit and like someone that can tell others what to do
But you take those same people and all their characteristics and change the location. Say take them skiing. Now the boss is an out of shape novice who looks like an idiot on the slopes. The women are now interested in the ski instructor, because he’s displaying competence and confidence. They don’t know why they’re turned on, it doesn’t matter that the ski instructor makes $30,000 a year and is broke, they just fall in line with what the situation tells them to.
Change the setting to a night out and now whoever the musician is on stage, or bouncer, or bar owner gets interest from the same women. I’ve even played on a work flag football team where a guy most people ignored at work was the team quarterback and the chicks were all really into him. The guy has to have SOME baseline attractiveness going on but it’s likely less than you think
Does all of that sound dumb? Well that’s because it is. But that’s how women work. So best to understand that and learn how to adjust accordingly. Men aren’t any better though imo the equivalent is most of us guys will overlook literally anything if the girl is attractive enough. In the end we are all pretty dumb and tied to our biological impulses for different reasons
Hence why I never went after women at work. I have no ambitions to be the boss, and know in that arena I’ll never have leverage
So why is “Leanpill” and ottermode shilled so hard here then
Is most of fit just young xoomers?
That and millennials who want to pump and dump younger women exclusively.
Yeah a lot of zoomers and gen a
And a lot of fat people trying to lose weight
If you are wearing clothes then nobody notices. t 40 with a six pack and just look scrawney in a shirt.
Life isnt a movie you stupid fricking gay. You are 32 years old jesus christ. What the frick do you think reality is? Honestly im so fricking baffled right now I need to go lay down and take a breather i simply cannot fathom that people like you exist.
>79kg lean
So you must be like 6'1 right? Also how is your hairline looking
i was going to a boomer gym for the last 4 years and 3 days ago i signed up with my chad best friend at a popular gym near a collage. My friend is a green eyed chad and white and im a med with good tan and perfect hairline (he is receeding). I was going with the intention that it's over and i will get mogged by the chad but the mires were 50% 50%. Women do have preferences if you are somewhat attractive, so yeah i assume op being lean makes him look like a dyel in work clothes no one takes him seriously. btw my friend is 29 and im 31.
Friendly reminder that people over the age of 21 don't matter. Your problems are unimportant, your future nonexistent, nothing you can do will improve your life anymore whatsoever, your best path is to raise your kids you got with your teenage gf turned wife, and disregard your own happiness for the sake of providing for your offspring..
You did have kids with your teenage gf turned wife , didn't you?
t. 32yo incel
Hey man, you started that with, "friendly reminder," but I don't think your message was very friendly at all.
I think telling others the truth is part of being frens. And people here are so often in an endless ccycle of self-improvement that they fail to realistically self-reflect by stepping outside the echo chamber.
Zyzz died age 22.
People itt over 30 discussing "mires" is like retired boomers deciding what sportscar to buy to impress schoolgirls. Delusional. Midlife crisis, the train left decades ago. I wish it wasn't so but that's how it is
100%. its so fricking cringe to see genetic dead end end losers trying to live those missed out years. like they are trying to re enact that time they didnt go out to bars and rizz and get mires from college girls. the 30 year old losers are literally the biggest women out here. they seriously behave like 20 year old females. so fricking concerned and worried about other peoples opinions, looksmaxxing etc.
normal people who got to experience that are tapering down. im gonna be 30 this year and everyones instagrams are just dead. you look through the latest posts and the 3rd post was from 2018 or something. these guys and girls used to be the ones who used to post weekly if not daily and were so self obssesed and attention starved. and thats cool, you grew out of it. we 30 year olds now have been in a long relationship, maybe a wife and kids, serious career etc.
i really like how you reminded that zyzz was 22. he was literally a kid. like again to op who is frickinbg 32, you need to get your life together. you are not in the market anymore to act and live like a teenager. think about it for a minute, he should be a fricking father at this point yet he is worried that people didnt compliment him wearing a medium t shirt? what the frick am i reading here?
T. Samegay
Nothing wrong with ottermode, post those “abs” powerboy
Like zyzz dancing around in short shorts at festivals and taking his shirt off in malls was any less cringe you homosexual
>muhh genetic dead end
He says from his low end chink phone literally 3 years younger than the op he’s calling old. moron
Wanting to look attractive to the opposite sex is a lifelong drive dude, and something is wrong with you if you don't have it. Especially at 30 lmao holy shit if you think that is old or too old to get interest from hot women. Hell, there is a trillion dollar industry just trying to get women of all ages to look a few years younger
You are right that at some point you need to be secure in yourself to not need ego validation from women, and you dont want to be the creepy 40 year old in the bar hitting on girls half his age. At some point biologically you are predisposed to become a dad and pivot to provider/protector mode.
BUT that doesn't mean lifting weights or looking good is cringe. If you focus solely on becomming a bread winner then you end up a fat corporate whipped loser whose wife barely sleeps with him in between finding dumb things to spend your money on based on what social media advertisements tell her. Fitness is a lifelong pursuit, looking good is a lifelong pursuit. You want your wife to still want you, and the best way to go about that is by having other women want you to. If other women check you out (and yes, you can be 30s, 40s, and 50s and be checked out by other women. Not prime 20 year old sloots thats a pure cope but other women +/- 10 years your age) then your spouse will likely always be into you too, it's just how that works.
Being fit lets you pursue everything life has to offer. Competition, teamwork, exploring new locations in a manner only possible if you are in shape, pushing your limits, chasing adrenaline with sports like skiing.
Long story short agree and disagree with what you said but as someone on the other side of 30 the deadbeat 25 year old doomers here need to stop being so myopic
>nooo when you turn 30 you have to settle down and be le heckin trad husband and follow the crowd and be genetic dead end clerk number 284838377
Cringe. I’m 35, still game and frick college sloots when I can. Op don’t listen to this miserable old frick
That's not what the guy you replied to, who replied to me, implied.
Consider this:
>being able to drive car at age 16 is cool. At age 35 nobody cares.
>drinking beer and vodka at age 16 is cool. At age 35 it's whatever
>banging at age 16 as a guy means you're chad, especially if you plan something serious and long-term. Age 35 it's nothing special
The reason you tie so much self-worth to something so trivial means you didn't when you were 16, where that was still an achievement. At 35, you'd better have two+ teenage kids - that's the appropriate level of achievement for your age category
lol 2+ teenage kids means you had kids at 20-22. That is not bragging rights and surely is an indicator of being in poverty.
And again, ugly cope. Being attractive and able to court the other sex is something that will always command respect from peers. Bragging about banging girls is cringe at a certain age. But being the hot guy in the office or the neighborhood isnt. Everything men do is sex driven to some degree. If you are tall fit attractive etc. you can bypass all that, while the partner at the firm who is fat and bald has to slave away for a BMW to feel the same way - and he doesnt even own that feeling, he simply rents it, because a marketing agency tells him to
All in all what you said is ugly fat middle aged cope. Attractive men and women in their 30s, 40s, 50s, etc. stay that way and know the value in it
>20-22. That is not bragging rights and surely is an indicator of being in poverty.
You are a fool if you think so. This is the best age to have kids, and that's not even an opinion, but a medical fact.
>Being attractive and able to court the other sex is something that will always command respect from peers.
Nobody even questioned this. But being attractive and self confident usually doesn't go hand in hand with asking on mongol goatherding kurultai why you don't get mires kek. Rest of your post is downright projecting
Lol. Lmao even. Incel alert pointing to medical data on when it’s “best to have kids”. This isn’t the 1700s anymore you moron. Better to have some time establishing one’s self than usher kids into a life of poverty
Can tell you’re the type that talks about all this shit and doesn’t have sex himself. Let me guess, ages 20-22 is best time to have kids but you don’t have any? Lol do you even have sex anon?
>X is the best treatment against asscancer
>hOw yoU knoW?! LMaO you dont even have asscancer yourself
That's how you sound. I know it's hard for fit to engage in thinking exercises, but just try. If you want a big family, with grandkids etc, you gotta start early, as early as possible ideally. Outside having children, sex has no purpose and you're ultimately arguing for a life of fruitless hedonism, which is excusable at 16 but cringe at 35.
What the frick are talking about? I'm 43 and...
>I fricking love driving my beater project car
>enjoy the frick out of drinking with my bros
>excited literally every time it's sexy time - my wife says I make the silliest happy face every time I see her pussy
It's not about self worth, it's about the idea that if the things that excited you at 16 don't excite you anymore, you're doing it wrong.
damn you are 43 and still come here and write how you make a silly happy face when you see some mid prostitute's roast beef pussy with a completely straight face. damn dude really seems like you are doing it right bro, totally mirin your life. im just trying to picture it, you are literally someone of age who could have a child who has already graduated and you are still here. im just letting that sink in and its so fricking crazy to think that someone in their 40's is actually still here posting garbage like this
Never forget, you're here forever.
Enjoy hating your own life, I guess. You sound like a scared teenager.
we come here to rip on dyel virgin zoomers
>the idea that if the things that excited you at 16 don't excite you anymore, you're doing it wrong
It's called "growing up", anon. Character development. The same stimulus doesn't trigger the same response, you develop a tolerance. Being in a teenage state at 35 just means you missed out on being an actual teenager at 16
Topkek. You go ahead and spend your time pretending to be a grown-up. I'm going to enjoy myself.
You sound like a cool wine aunt
Enjoy your slow decline into mediocrity, anon.
>seen any good TV lately?
>le boomer hates his frigid wife
>9-2-5'n for the kids
That's you, in case you couldn't tell.
yep lol clearly that anon is like most, frozen in fear of societal judgement so just foillows the path of least resistance. That means marry someone at 25-30 because it's 'what everyone else is doing' even if they aren't sure how much they are into their partner, focusing on 'career' to the detriment of all else, and then getting in socially approved hobbies. Im sure that Anon will soon have a nice mcmansion he can barely afford and spends his weekends tending to his lawn and smoking meats in his green egg and financing SUVs because his wife believes the advertiesements about 'safety features' as he slowly builds a beer gut but thinks it's 'cope' and 'insecurity' when he sees someone 15 years older than him still jacked and doing whatever they want with life.
Brb in my 30s (am married) but still get attention from women 10 years younger
Brb have a good job, but dont focus on it too much. The career climbers are all keeping up with the joneses types and absolutely miserable
brb still lift 4x a week. If you cant fit this in your schedule because you are an 'adult' then youare an absolute b***h. You give your employer 9 hours a day, you cant give yourself 1?
brb compete in triathlons in spring/summer/fall and go skiing / mountaineering in the winter
Your life is what you make of it anon, so have the courage to live your own
Built for BBC
If you're ottermode nobody is going to notice your gains when you're in clothes
I had a friend in high school who was into lifting and calisthenics, he was very muscular for a late teen and shredded to like 7% bodyfat. The thing is, NOBODY would have said that he touches weights unless he took his shirt off. He looked like a twink in clothes.
On the other hand, I'm builtfat with a large frame, most people definitely notice my muscles when I'm wearing a shirt. Unfortunately, when I take it off, I can see disappointment on women's faces, since they think that I look like Arnold or some shit, while in reality I have a dadbod with a bit more muscles than usual.
people need to stop this larp and act like they are the main character in other people's lives. nobody thinks anything of, period. like literally nobody thinks hmm how much lean musle mass does this guy have hmmm it seems his bodyfat is x and y and it could potentially mean that he might lift weights hmmm. you are just a human. if you look attractive, you look attractive. if you dont, you dont. theres no "oohh big in clothes", no you just look fricking fat in clothes.
So you are skinny? woah
Hard to tell if you dont post body
Height/Frame is importsnt
Face is important
Tan is important
If you are a pale nerd with sixpack no one gives a frick
If you are tall broad shoulder mediterranean tan chad girls get wet even if you are 40
Otter is fine at any age but people cant see your core definition through a shirt in the workplace
Size is more visible with clothing on
I recommend balance
Sacrifice some leanness for size but dont get fat
I like sitting around 15% bf
I can be reasonably big but still have some definition
Big truth to this.
Solution is working that reverse U shape ( traps, shoulders & arms ) a shitton.
Sorry baby height > all
If you're not 6'6" then you're short and ugly and gross you creep.
Hmm that’s interesting, I’m coming up on 30 and all my friends who used to take care of their bodies always complete me on mine and my wife chokes herself on my dick and balls and begs for my load while having eye rolling orgasms she loves my body so much, I’m sure I’ve lead some of my friends women to think some not so faithful thoughts over the years as well
The simple fix is the Paul Walker option. Just take off your shirt more often.
Other than that I would add some more muscle to the arms, shoulders and posterior chain. You only have a a handful years left of building up bone density in your 30's. Not saying you need to "bulk" or other such zog'd ways of thinking.
I am 47 working on getting to ottermode..
Ages 18-24 ottermode is the best for getting b***hes
Ages 25-35 you’ll want more of an athletic build. Not exactly what we would call huge by fit standards, but bigger than ottermode, like you should be able to subtly show off gains in clothing that fits correctly. This is where you can do male bawd things like showing off forearms without it looking intentional. Again, not talking about something like 6’2 250 lean. More like 6’2 205-210 lean. Obviously lifts, but to normies could pull off the “just genetics lifting is dangerous I just jog and do push-ups sometimes” shit while still looking bigger than most
Age 35+ you should have it together and it shouldn’t matter as long as you’re lean. You should have a wife and kids by now. If you don’t, any physique that’s under 15% body fat will do so long as your money is right.
OP you are mentally ill, seek help
This woman has only seen the inside of a gym in movies.
You have to keep progressing. For whatever reason an ottermode body looks a bit strange heading into middle age- though it’s better than being fat obviously. As you get older you have to lean into being more masculine and that includes putting on size
>fell for the otter mode meme
Everyone expects young men to look like twinks but if you look like that as you get older it's just pathetic.
Get large.