>Ingredients: Canola Oil
I dunno about you guys but I love drinking a cool refreshing glass of seed oils with breakfast
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>Ingredients: Canola Oil
>it's true
Holy shit lmao
>Water, High Fructose Corn Syrup and 2% or Less of: Concentrated Orange Juice, Concentrated Tangerine Juice, Concentrated Apple Juice, Concentrated Lime Juice, Concentrated Grapefruit Juice, Concentrated Pear Juice, Citric Acid, Ascorbic Acid (Vitamin C), Thiamin Hydrochloride (Vitamin B1), Natural Flavor, Modified Cornstarch, Canola Oil, Sodium Citrate, Cellulose Gum, Sucralose, Acesulfame Potassium, Neotame, Sodium Hexametaphosphate, Potassium Sorbate to Protect Flavor, Yellow 5, Yellow 6.
All this shit instead of real orange juice. Clown world.
I always love the "Less than #%" as if that maoes it OK to put in whatever industrial crap you can think of.
>I always love the "Less than #%"
I think it's literally always "less than 2%:" and never any other number, just fyi
>oil in orange juice
What the frick is wrong with americans?
>all those additives and slop ingredients
That shit doesn't make any sense to me.
Isn't it cheaper for the producer just to squeeze out actual orange juice from oranges, add some sugar and maybe preservatives so it doesn't spoil after 3 days?
This shit doesn't make sense to me from a money-making perspective.
>Yellow 5, Yellow 6.
Why would you need to add fricking color to orange juice?
Because its not orange juice, cant you read?
It's less than 2% orange juice, but they still market it as an orange juice type drink, can't really do that if it's brown.
>can't really do that if it's brown.
he doesnt know
What is sunny D? When I was a kid, I thought this was like some sweet drink that somewhat tastes like orange juice.
I was always so confused as to why orange juice didn't taste like oranges as a kid. I finally put two and two together a few years ago and remembered the other fruits on the bottle. I finally realized it was citrus juice not orange juice.
It is, it's orange coloured sugar water with artificial sweeteners to boost further, and some "citrus" so they can call it healthy
It's delicious if you're looking for liquid candy, but hilariously off if you're looking for anything from a fruit
I've not had sunny d in forever so I don't remember if it actually feels more like orange juice than a sugar punch, but my guess is the oil is there to create an emulsion to thicken the texture to make it more like real juice. it being mostly water and high fructose corn syrup is the bigger issue
zoomers literally have no idea what the d stands for lmao
>Drinking any kind of liquid calories besides milk
ngmi
Sneed oils are unironically healthy for you.
Bad bait
>he thinks it's bait
not an argument
>look I posted it again
ur 2 dum 4 science
good one kek
based knower. PUFAchads rise.
>industrial sludge is le healthy
>mechanistic speculation
Verify that you are human
in nutrition the only forms of evidence are:
>mechanistic evidence
>animal studies
>epidemiology
>evolutionary biology and historical findings
RCTs are impossible because it's "unethical" and people wouldn't stick to it for a long enough time anyway.
epidemiology is worthless except for things that have very strong correlation which also have strong mechanistic evidence and make sense biologically/historically.
there's a ton of info on the negative effects of seed oils if you're interested.
if you're not, you're completely free to consume copious amounts of ultra-processed omega 6 oils.
>epidemiology is worthless except for when it confirms what I already believe
okay dude
>you're completely free to consume copious amounts
you morons are so insufferable. do you homosexuals actually believe we are saying to guzzle seed oils by the litre every day?
>ultra-processed
oh.. you're an emotional baby. it makes sense now. kys promptly.
>except for when it confirms what I already believe
no, even then it's worthless.
>do you homosexuals actually believe we are saying to guzzle seed oils by the litre every day?
seed oils are in EVERYTHING. since before seed oils were popularized by far the single biggest increase in calorie consumption for the average westener has been seed oils. not sugar (has actually gone down since the year 2000), not grains, not carbs, not meat, not dairy, not fruit, not vegetables, but seed oils.
try eating the same amount of seed oils (~1 en%) what we did for all of human history except for the last ~50 years. unless you cook every single one of meals yourself and you eat zero processed foods that contain any added fat, it's impossible to avoid.
>emotional
seed oils are ultra-processed. have you ever seen how they're manufactured?
>inb4 muh cold-pressed extra-virgin olive oil which nobody actually consumes
>no, even then it's worthless.
so when you have endless epidemiological data showing that people replacing saturated fats with unsaturated, refined carbohydrate with whole grain, adding legumes, vegetables, and fruits to their diet with positive health outcomes, that's all worthless? unbelievable. eating this way is healthy, it's not even up for debate.
>this blob of text
homie, what the frick are you saying? i don't care if some slob eats too much processed food and gets fat and unhealthy. that doesn't make muh sneed oils unhealthy. guess what? overeating is bad for you. no shit we've known that for how many years? if you are serious about your health you need to watch what you eat and learn to cook.
>ultra-processed
that means nothing, who cares? it's just extracted fat from seeds. don't @ me with shit solvents, I don't care. they are in such a small amount it's harmless to your health. the dose makes the poison.
>cold-pressed extra-virgin olive oil which nobody actually consumes
talk about an individual person's diet, not the "standard american" or the average normalgay's diet. what everyone else eats is irrelevant. seed oils are not bad inherently — the negative health effects come from cheap, hyper palatable foods that contain too many calories from added fats and sugar.
>epidemiological data showing that people replacing [...]
I get so tired of this fricking lie which twists words around just to make it seem like actual people actually changed their diet and replaced one food for another, when that's not the case! Fricking around with statistics to get different numbers isn't the same as actually changing/replacing food (that's called an intervention!). And long term interventional studies are extremely rare.
>saturated fat
Useless vague term. As vague as "unsaturated fat" or "carbs". Saturated fat from muffins, donuts, deep fried shit, junk food, etc, is completely different from unprocessed meat, whole (fermented) dairy, eggs, coconuts, etc. Same for carbs, unsaturated fat, or whatever.
>muh legumes, vegetables, and fruit
No shit processed crap is unhealthier than natural whole foods.
There is no data showing that unprocessed (homecooked) meat, (fermented) whole dairy, and eggs are unhealthy. In fact there are many studies showing that they are protective.
>if I eat unprocessed whole foods and then add a little bit of seed oil I'm still healthier than people guzzling down junk food every day
No shit, dumbass. Just because you're healthy due to all the other good things you're doing doesn't mean seed oils are somehow not inherently bad.
And yes, insane overconsumption of linoleic acid is bad (especially if it's heated, or even more so if it's repeatedly heated like in deep fry tanks in fast food places).
And also yes, many forms of food processing are bad: https://youtube.com/watch?v=8rcfvRGZsDs
still waiting for any evidence these are harmful long term.
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https://www.the-nutrivore.com/post/a-comprehensive-rebuttal-to-seed-oil-sophistry
have fun. seed oil is good for you, sorry kid. ignore rogan, huberman, and turn off your youtube grifters please. the science is settled.
If you've read and under stood my posts, you'd know why those epidemiological studies on heart disease risk don't actually mean anything.
If you're still deluded that extremely weak associations mean anything when there are so many confounders, then India, China, and other similar countries are also "undeniable" proof that seed oils cause obesity, diabetes, and a host of other illnesses.
calories cause obesity homosexual. you are such an idiot you should be ashamed of yourself.
>Official Authority
Black person it's decades of data and RCTs showing all the shit you morons say about seed oils being false.
You've been destroyed by facts and logic.
While you have to be fat to get diabetes. Eating excess fat and therefore having more free fatty acids in your blood will decrease your insulin sensitivity. That combined with permanently inflamed fat cells are the cause of DM2.
>it's decades of data and RCT's
Completely false. Go read those studies and all the studies showing negative effects of (heated) linoleic acid yourself. Actually go read them instead of blindly believing a youtube shill who *still* believes the LDL hypothesis.
So to be clear: observational studies only hold any value if you look at correlations between food groups that actually make sense. Unprocessed homecooked meat, whole dairy without added sugar, fatty fish, lean fish, hole eggs, vegetables excluding things like commercial salads (drowned in seed oils), legumes, seeds, nuts, tubers, grains, beans, fruit
or
added sugar, flour, alcohol, deep fried vegetables, deep fried meat, deepfried fish, chips, fries, sausages, etc.
Grouping together any of the first types of foods with any of the last makes the correlations (if any are even found) worthless. Overly broad groupings are worthless. Less than worthless even because they can make any good food look bad and any bad food look good just by grouping it together with a bunch of good/bad other foods.
Lastly, there's a Healthy Citizen bias: those who are more healthy and more intelligent/educated/conscientious/wealthier/etc, are more likely to follow the food guidelines whatever they are.
That means that whatever food that's recommended in the guidelines gets a boost/positive bias, and any food which is told to be avoided gets a negative bias. Independently of the actual effects of the food.
cope. seethe. dilate.
>dishonest interpretations
>appeal to authority
>trolling
why even post when you clearly aren't interested in anything besides an Official Authority making a statement that seed oils are shit? hint: that'll only happen when the multinationals have found a way to produce SFA/MUFA oil for significantly cheaper than they can get seed oils now. You won't believe how fast the "omega 6 is bad for you" headlines will roll in as soon as they're able to produce those SFA/MUFA oils synthetically (read: cheaply).
>there's a ton of info on the negative effects of seed oils if you're interested.
No there isn't. Shut the frick up. They are slightly bad when consumed in large quantities, that's it.
you forgot:
>they cause cancer when heated
Shut the frick up, you stupid obnoxious narcissist piece of shit.
https://www.gbhealthwatch.com/Science-Omega3-Omega6.php
There's plenty of info, outside of your stupid complete lack of knowledge reality that you cling to like a moronic homosexual.
>muh ratios
this would be like me saying for you to not eat animal fat at all because eating it in excess is linked to cardiovascular disease and decreased insulin sensitivity.
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