There was once a lighthouse in search of the light. One day its light hit something reflective in the ocean and it said "Ah ha! I found the light" then once it realized it was but a reflection it continued to search. Then the light of the lighthouse and the light of another lighthouse fell upon eachother and it said "Finally! I have found the light!" But alas, the other lighthouse moved its light and it grew dishearted. Then one day a wise sage came to the lighthouse and said "You are THAT which you seek."
Anon, allow me. /nofap/ is good for general motivation and will power. There's plenty of ancient texts that show semen retention is incredibly helpful for gains both of the body and mind. There aren't these magic super powers that appear but, there is some evidence showing higher functions appear when abstaining. Small side note. When on nofap for about a month, I did notice that it was INCREDIBLY easy to talk to people. Both of the same sex and opposite. That's not saying women were opening their legs, but that I could on my behalf make the convos flow smoothly. If anyone was cagey, simple as, shrug and on to the next. Try it. It can't hurt.
If not jerking off improved your social skills then I can't imagine what you were like before wtf haha
You're on IST, stop pretending you're a chad
Everyone, in my case I am in a long distance relationship. At times (especially since getting IST) and going from 230lbs to 189lbs (goal = 175) I jack-off pretty easily and I do it because the idea of being nofap for literally 3, 6, 9 months at a time for a 30yoMale sounds extremely unnatural. I just wonder if that kind of nofap is hazardous/toxic for males in the long run. My situation/concerns would also apply to any incels or single people that aren't dating.
>Is /nofap/ good or bad for physical health? Tell me the answer I seek.
Not fappping does pretty much nothing. It's a meme some idiots take seriously.
What does matter is Porn/NoPorn.
The benefits of "NoFap" actually come from NoPorn, because when you don't fap you don't consume porn.
I don't like stupid conspiraces but Pornography has some real effects on your brain / psychee.
Men who consume a lot of porn, and can't fap without porn, will be desensitized to it, burn out dopamine receptors quickly and will end up depressed or disatisfied in general.
Research in this field is quite new, because access to mass Pornography is a recent phenomenon but it looks like consuming Porn daily, or worse, multiple times everyday is bad for you.
Instead of NoFap, go NoPorn.
Being able to fap without Porn, just with your imagination / mind, helps with actual sex, because you can control more easily, not cum too fast and staying erect.
Forget NoFap. It's a meme.
Embrace NoPorn, it's how God/Nature intended it to be.
Thank us later.
>Not fappping does pretty much nothing.
no offence but you guys are 3rd world weirdos that make shit up because you can't afford anything. how fricking hard is it to get your hormones checked? strict nofap for like 3 weeks sky rockets my levels. simple as. i don't need studies to tell me what a simple test tells me. also saying noporn is a problem you might as well say that instagram and IST is a problem.
>no offence but you guys are 3rd world weirdos that make shit up because you can't afford anything.
No offense, but you're not only completely wrong, you're assuming shit you shouldn't, and you're probably pojecting.
But let's see if you have anything intelligen o say.
>how fricking hard is it to get your hormones checked?
It isn't hard. I'm gonna get checked soon. I have a blood analysis schduled for next week.
It's my first time doing bloodwork like this.
I'm 30, so it's not a bad idea to get a check-up.
>strict nofap for like 3 weeks sky rockets my levels. simple as
It's possible.
The problem is that there isn't enough research / studies on this particular phenomenon.
If you do some research on the topic via he internet there's only one single study, done with a small sample of 10 men, where they did see and increase of Testosterone.
This hasn't ye been reproduced in a larger study yet, so we still need confirmation.
But there was a small increase in Testosterone after 1 week of asbitence and a bigger increase after 3 weeks.
Scientists don't all agree on this matter.
Some say NoFap does nothing, others say it does affect Testosterone.
The increase in the study in question wasn't that much, not too signficant.
There's other studies showing that NoFap has virtually no effect on muscle building.
>The men’s free testosterone levels were higher after masturbation, according to the researchers. Total testosterone, free testosterone, and cortisol ratios, on the other hand, remained unchanged. Refraining from masturbation or sexual activity before a workout had no effect on muscle building. The researchers hypothesized that the circadian rhythm of testosterone release and time of training had a greater impact on muscle growth. According to their findings, training may be most effective in the early evening.
https://www.invigormedical.com/sexual-health/how-does-masturbation-affect-testosterone/
>cope. you don't need research on something self evident. jerking off does nothing positive for you. >cope. you don't need research
Dumbest post you could make.
It is not "Self-evident"
The only thing you're really doing by doing NoFap is a Dopamine Detox.
It's all about the hormones that are released during Orgasm.
We men have a large release of Dopamine when we orgasm.
Women on the other hand have a high dose of Oxytocin released when they orgasm.
This is just to say Women Pair-Bond through orgasm, whil we men don't.
We pair-bond to women through Vassopressine, whch is relased when we overcome obstacles with our woman.
So NoFap has the same benefits as Dopamine Detox because it literally is a Dopamine Detox for Men.
That's my understanding of the actual science behind all this.
Going NoFap is dopamie detox and is an exercise in Willpower.
You can improve your willpower by abstaining from sexual stmuli.
But anything more than that has yet to be proven scieifically.
We talk about the lack of studies, but a the same time it's a bit gay to study othr men's mastubation habits. You got to say "No homo" every 10 minutes, otherwise it's kinda gay.
Also there are some mental and/or health benefits linked to masturbation, but you don't want to hear that, so I'm not even gonna try and convince you of that.
>no offence but you guys are 3rd world weirdos that make shit up because you can't afford anything.
No offense, but you're not only completely wrong, you're assuming shit you shouldn't, and you're probably pojecting.
But let's see if you have anything intelligen o say.
>how fricking hard is it to get your hormones checked?
It isn't hard. I'm gonna get checked soon. I have a blood analysis schduled for next week.
It's my first time doing bloodwork like this.
I'm 30, so it's not a bad idea to get a check-up.
>strict nofap for like 3 weeks sky rockets my levels. simple as
It's possible.
The problem is that there isn't enough research / studies on this particular phenomenon.
If you do some research on the topic via he internet there's only one single study, done with a small sample of 10 men, where they did see and increase of Testosterone.
This hasn't ye been reproduced in a larger study yet, so we still need confirmation.
But there was a small increase in Testosterone after 1 week of asbitence and a bigger increase after 3 weeks.
Scientists don't all agree on this matter.
Some say NoFap does nothing, others say it does affect Testosterone.
The increase in the study in question wasn't that much, not too signficant.
There's other studies showing that NoFap has virtually no effect on muscle building.
>The men’s free testosterone levels were higher after masturbation, according to the researchers. Total testosterone, free testosterone, and cortisol ratios, on the other hand, remained unchanged. Refraining from masturbation or sexual activity before a workout had no effect on muscle building. The researchers hypothesized that the circadian rhythm of testosterone release and time of training had a greater impact on muscle growth. According to their findings, training may be most effective in the early evening.
https://www.invigormedical.com/sexual-health/how-does-masturbation-affect-testosterone/
Cont.
>i don't need studies to tell me what a simple test tells me.
The problem is that you don't isolate for other factors.
No Fap is not the only factor affecting Testosterone Levels.
If you don't adjust for other factors, it's pretty hard to say if the NoFap actually helped or not.
>also saying noporn is a problem you might as well say that instagram and IST is a problem.
I think there's a difference between being exposed to erotic images that you stumble upon on the web, versus consuming actual pronography for sexual pleasure.
There was some evidence to suggest there was an increase in Testosterone when a man was shown erotica, but didn't orgasm.
Also yes : >you might as well say that instagram and IST is a problem.
IST probably causes its own problem, for a lot of young men, but Instagram has been proven to make people depressed.
Instagram is used to show off. Poeple show off the greatest aspects of their life, and it is often fabricated.
People only post what makes them look good and scrolling daly on Instagram maks people, espcially women, feel inadequate.
This is why people like the Kadashians have the perverse effect of promoting plastic surgeries, "BBL's" and such so that the women can look like their idols, bcause they think that's what men want.
>Based on the ratings young people gave to each platform for each of the health and wellbeing-related issues, the five most popular platforms were given a net average score which were used to establish the league table rankings: >YouTube (most positive) >Twitter >Facebook >Snapchat >Instagram (most negative) >https://www.rsph.org.uk/about-us/news/instagram-ranked-worst-for-young-people-s-mental-health.html
So yeah, maybe watch out what you say.
You might say something smart by accident trying to be a sarcastic b***h.
ok so I have a tangentially related question, and this seems like the peenor health thread so;
when watching porn, I can't get full mast unless I'm actually swabbing the deck and teetering on firing the cannon.
Also, if I'm getting dirty below decks with a lass and take a cialis - it does nothing to boost my performance.
HOWEVER, every morning without fail I'm stiffer than Long John Silver's peg leg.
What's the deal? Would noporn help put the wind back in my sails?
I’m gooning right now
Just do noporn homosexual
There was once a lighthouse in search of the light. One day its light hit something reflective in the ocean and it said "Ah ha! I found the light" then once it realized it was but a reflection it continued to search. Then the light of the lighthouse and the light of another lighthouse fell upon eachother and it said "Finally! I have found the light!" But alas, the other lighthouse moved its light and it grew dishearted. Then one day a wise sage came to the lighthouse and said "You are THAT which you seek."
You seek to be the sneaky link.
Cumming about once or twice a week into a person you love is optimal for health.
>a person you love
they stopped making those
ai’m not gonna cum in myself homosexual ass lol lmao even
>a person you love
my soulmate was probably aborted
Just do what you feel is right. That IS how you live, right?
Anon, allow me. /nofap/ is good for general motivation and will power. There's plenty of ancient texts that show semen retention is incredibly helpful for gains both of the body and mind. There aren't these magic super powers that appear but, there is some evidence showing higher functions appear when abstaining. Small side note. When on nofap for about a month, I did notice that it was INCREDIBLY easy to talk to people. Both of the same sex and opposite. That's not saying women were opening their legs, but that I could on my behalf make the convos flow smoothly. If anyone was cagey, simple as, shrug and on to the next. Try it. It can't hurt.
If not jerking off improved your social skills then I can't imagine what you were like before wtf haha
Nofap is a psyop designed to give Blacks prostate cancer
That is what i am worried about.
You're on IST, stop pretending you're a chad
Everyone, in my case I am in a long distance relationship. At times (especially since getting IST) and going from 230lbs to 189lbs (goal = 175) I jack-off pretty easily and I do it because the idea of being nofap for literally 3, 6, 9 months at a time for a 30yoMale sounds extremely unnatural. I just wonder if that kind of nofap is hazardous/toxic for males in the long run. My situation/concerns would also apply to any incels or single people that aren't dating.
>I am in a long distance relationship.
Bait or moron. Advice discredited and debooonked.
it's not like that man. We are almost finished with this fricking ldr anyway.
Nofap is moronic and unrealistic. No porn is the way to go.
>Is /nofap/ good or bad for physical health? Tell me the answer I seek.
Not fappping does pretty much nothing. It's a meme some idiots take seriously.
What does matter is Porn/NoPorn.
The benefits of "NoFap" actually come from NoPorn, because when you don't fap you don't consume porn.
I don't like stupid conspiraces but Pornography has some real effects on your brain / psychee.
Men who consume a lot of porn, and can't fap without porn, will be desensitized to it, burn out dopamine receptors quickly and will end up depressed or disatisfied in general.
Research in this field is quite new, because access to mass Pornography is a recent phenomenon but it looks like consuming Porn daily, or worse, multiple times everyday is bad for you.
Instead of NoFap, go NoPorn.
Being able to fap without Porn, just with your imagination / mind, helps with actual sex, because you can control more easily, not cum too fast and staying erect.
Forget NoFap. It's a meme.
Embrace NoPorn, it's how God/Nature intended it to be.
Thank us later.
>Not fappping does pretty much nothing.
no offence but you guys are 3rd world weirdos that make shit up because you can't afford anything. how fricking hard is it to get your hormones checked? strict nofap for like 3 weeks sky rockets my levels. simple as. i don't need studies to tell me what a simple test tells me. also saying noporn is a problem you might as well say that instagram and IST is a problem.
>no offence but you guys are 3rd world weirdos that make shit up because you can't afford anything.
No offense, but you're not only completely wrong, you're assuming shit you shouldn't, and you're probably pojecting.
But let's see if you have anything intelligen o say.
>how fricking hard is it to get your hormones checked?
It isn't hard. I'm gonna get checked soon. I have a blood analysis schduled for next week.
It's my first time doing bloodwork like this.
I'm 30, so it's not a bad idea to get a check-up.
>strict nofap for like 3 weeks sky rockets my levels. simple as
It's possible.
The problem is that there isn't enough research / studies on this particular phenomenon.
If you do some research on the topic via he internet there's only one single study, done with a small sample of 10 men, where they did see and increase of Testosterone.
This hasn't ye been reproduced in a larger study yet, so we still need confirmation.
But there was a small increase in Testosterone after 1 week of asbitence and a bigger increase after 3 weeks.
Scientists don't all agree on this matter.
Some say NoFap does nothing, others say it does affect Testosterone.
The increase in the study in question wasn't that much, not too signficant.
There's other studies showing that NoFap has virtually no effect on muscle building.
>The men’s free testosterone levels were higher after masturbation, according to the researchers. Total testosterone, free testosterone, and cortisol ratios, on the other hand, remained unchanged. Refraining from masturbation or sexual activity before a workout had no effect on muscle building. The researchers hypothesized that the circadian rhythm of testosterone release and time of training had a greater impact on muscle growth. According to their findings, training may be most effective in the early evening.
https://www.invigormedical.com/sexual-health/how-does-masturbation-affect-testosterone/
>The problem is that there isn't enough research
cope. you don't need research on something self evident. jerking off does nothing positive for you.
>cope. you don't need research on something self evident. jerking off does nothing positive for you.
>cope. you don't need research
Dumbest post you could make.
It is not "Self-evident"
The only thing you're really doing by doing NoFap is a Dopamine Detox.
It's all about the hormones that are released during Orgasm.
We men have a large release of Dopamine when we orgasm.
Women on the other hand have a high dose of Oxytocin released when they orgasm.
This is just to say Women Pair-Bond through orgasm, whil we men don't.
We pair-bond to women through Vassopressine, whch is relased when we overcome obstacles with our woman.
So NoFap has the same benefits as Dopamine Detox because it literally is a Dopamine Detox for Men.
That's my understanding of the actual science behind all this.
Going NoFap is dopamie detox and is an exercise in Willpower.
You can improve your willpower by abstaining from sexual stmuli.
But anything more than that has yet to be proven scieifically.
We talk about the lack of studies, but a the same time it's a bit gay to study othr men's mastubation habits. You got to say "No homo" every 10 minutes, otherwise it's kinda gay.
Also there are some mental and/or health benefits linked to masturbation, but you don't want to hear that, so I'm not even gonna try and convince you of that.
Cont.
>i don't need studies to tell me what a simple test tells me.
The problem is that you don't isolate for other factors.
No Fap is not the only factor affecting Testosterone Levels.
If you don't adjust for other factors, it's pretty hard to say if the NoFap actually helped or not.
>also saying noporn is a problem you might as well say that instagram and IST is a problem.
I think there's a difference between being exposed to erotic images that you stumble upon on the web, versus consuming actual pronography for sexual pleasure.
There was some evidence to suggest there was an increase in Testosterone when a man was shown erotica, but didn't orgasm.
Also yes :
>you might as well say that instagram and IST is a problem.
IST probably causes its own problem, for a lot of young men, but Instagram has been proven to make people depressed.
Instagram is used to show off. Poeple show off the greatest aspects of their life, and it is often fabricated.
People only post what makes them look good and scrolling daly on Instagram maks people, espcially women, feel inadequate.
This is why people like the Kadashians have the perverse effect of promoting plastic surgeries, "BBL's" and such so that the women can look like their idols, bcause they think that's what men want.
https://time.com/4793331/instagram-social-media-mental-health/
>Based on the ratings young people gave to each platform for each of the health and wellbeing-related issues, the five most popular platforms were given a net average score which were used to establish the league table rankings:
>YouTube (most positive)
>Twitter
>Facebook
>Snapchat
>Instagram (most negative)
>https://www.rsph.org.uk/about-us/news/instagram-ranked-worst-for-young-people-s-mental-health.html
So yeah, maybe watch out what you say.
You might say something smart by accident trying to be a sarcastic b***h.
/noporn/ is better
ok so I have a tangentially related question, and this seems like the peenor health thread so;
when watching porn, I can't get full mast unless I'm actually swabbing the deck and teetering on firing the cannon.
Also, if I'm getting dirty below decks with a lass and take a cialis - it does nothing to boost my performance.
HOWEVER, every morning without fail I'm stiffer than Long John Silver's peg leg.
What's the deal? Would noporn help put the wind back in my sails?
it's all in your head
personally i'm against taking anything to extremes