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No but I'm graying at 23 fml
had the same happen to me. quit my Wagie of Wolf Street job @ 24 and went full NEET @ 26. grays went completely away
now at 31 I'm just started to get some again but mom's got cancer and we're going through immense financial difficulties so there's that (she's better now). they are showing up around the front unlike the first time when they appeared above the ears and were much more noticeable.
Gl with your mom bro
Nutrient deficiency
my barber (experienced guy) said if you gray early in life you will no go bald
consider yourself lucky
t. hair starting to get gray at early 20s (same for my brothers)
Started greying at 19, now at 24 i have a LOT of grey hair, have a lot of stress and anxiety i thought its because of that but sibling also had grey hair so idk, i said if my hair starts receding i am gonna kill myself grey+receding dead combo but your comment if legit its giving me hope
>my barber
>the guy who people with hair goes to said this about bald people
lmao
lose all hope lol I'm a greying shitskin moron
I'm hella greying at the back of my head and a bit at the crown, and oh well, I'm balding as well.
Never heard this but seems to check out. My bald ass dad has ultra dark hair still, not a single grey on his head, but he's NW7. I am balding hard too but no greys. Probably optimal setup for a hair system
I started getting gray hairs at 8 yo, now with plenty of gray hairs everywhere and I am receding since 23 yo
Black person you're dysgenic
It sounds worse than what is is, I mean both statements are true but I was never bad looking
Apparently copper helps with graying hair
Gray hair is kino
Quitting my shitty job legitimately brought the color back into my hair. Obviously it varies person to person, but stress definitely impacts hair color (and hairline to a degree).
Reduce stress. This can be achieved by simply becoming more silly
You can reverse it if you remove all stress, don't eat inflammatory foods and do water fasting sometimes
Who cares? I've had gray hairs since I was 14. My dad was completely gray at 30 and it never hindered either of us. In fact, girls would often ask to touch the gray patch on my beard.
You are blessed since it's very unlikely for someone with gray hair to go bald (maybe after 70, but who fricking cares by then).
>the beard-scratch at the end
Kek he doesn't even believe his own bullshit
>beardfraud
>pain behind his eyes
Damn, that really was all cope
100%
I'm barely a norwood 1 at 32 so no
I've been monk mode for the last like 10 years. Idk why it stopped there but I'm greatful
I cut it all off once but my head shape is so atrocious what I’d rather be balding than bald
You shouldn't do that. It might never grow back.
>It might never grow back.
How come?
I don't know. Happened to a co-worker of mine.
Baldness isn’t it falling out, it’s a moronation of growth.
might want to make the headset a bit looser there buddy
my head looks like this too
Same, which is why I know that if I go bald it's over for me
Didn't know Tyler1 posted here.
It's just hair bro, it all grows back. I just shaved my head and got lucky that my parents held me enough
You morons understand that you're supposed to get a widow's peak after 30, right? No one has a perfect NW0 hairline forever.
The problem is I'm 24 with a NW2
Get on fin then.
I'm considering it. If natural options don't work (microneedling+rosemary oil), and they probably won't, then I'll hop on fin. The thing is, I only really care for keeping my hair in my 20s. Don't mind losing it after 35 or whatever. It's been sitting at a NW2 for a year or so and hasn't budged but I know I can't rely on that
Thank God no.
I still have one and I'm in my early 30s but I have some grey hair.
but I'm 24
I'm 34 and my hair does not look that bad
What do you think causes a widows peak in men? Literally the same process that makes you bald eventually. Some men stay NW1 or NW6 or something between that the rest of their lifes
im nw0 and im 32. maybe stop being a hairlinlet with baldy genes
Mine started at 19.
Okay but it varies from person to person. I'm still at NW0 and already 44 years old.
My dad is 63 and has a NW0 and isn't even greying. You just have shit tier genes
You look fine, don't stress out about the little things, that's what women do.
yes 🙂
built for big black wiener
Minoxidil now or be a top
I don't take creatine so no signs of balding yet
stop fapping, coomer
does jerking off really cause hairloss? I'm 18 and I've been on a jerk off streak since 2022 and that's when my hair started falling out. I'm almost norwood 3 now and I don't know what to do. Shitskin thirdie and I can't convince my parents to do PRP for $500 monthly injections, hair transplant is far far away. Minoxidil is also very expensive and it's all just so fricking over for me.
Should I try applying natural oils and completely stop jerking off? If we're talking about the fact that jerking off "increases" test (hence more dht in body hence more hair loss), working out also increases test. Should I stop working out as well then?
nutting makes you lose zinc
that correlates to hairloss?
No it doesn't
well IST is a subsection of the forum IST, so i think you are a fricking moron for asking if IST is balding. IST is a fricking image board of course it isnt balding you absolute braindead vegetable
You're autistic.
Congratulations if you didn't know until now.
would rather be autistic than moronic any day of the week. dont you and OP have a pozzed power bottom session planned? what are you doing replying to me
>would rather be autistic than moronic any day of the week
They're one in the same. Take your meds, homosexual.
how much time do I have left?
the voids sucking up your hair RIP
Take Minoxidil and Finasteride you tards.
All that effort into muscles and you'll look like garbage anyway because of balding.
sir, this is /fit. this is not IST. everyone knows that IST is the looksmaxxing board. IST is more health oriented and practical than entertaining the anxieties of men over male pattern balding
with that said, I do finasteride 1mg 6 days a week and dutasteride 1 day a week. I am on topical minoxidil and pyrilutamide. I will be microneedling next month to help keep up my regimen.
webm is one hundred percent true. Once you get a sexy girl that puts out all the time your gains diminish significantly. I probably couldn't bench 2pl8 right now, I have no frickin clue how these fit dude and chick relationships are able to function, do they both have to be just entirely invested in it as their way of life?
The irony of women is that they want a masculine man but will do everything in their power to destroy that in him. And when they do destroy him they feel disgusted and leave him. All of this happens on subconscious level btw
My girlfriend turned into the female version of the Architect when she married me! She started discouraging me from my early morning cardio/running. She wants me to overeat and she takes it as an insult against her if I say, "hey, babe, I'm trying to stay fit." She's now starting to say that she wants her man to be softer. I'm already sliding into skinny fat territory. I don't know what to do about it.
>I don't know what to do about it.
Tell her to shut up and train even harder. I guarantee you that she'll lose attraction soon enough if you keep going this way
classic. she wants you to lose any attractiveness and potential dating options, so she can get lazy and fat herself.
She's noticing that other b***hes are checking you out and she's insecure that she'll loose you. Tell that b***h to shut the frick up and get on this dick. Keep training. Every woman tries to tare down her man and then complains that you turned into a soft beta cuck. If you listen to her eventually you'll hear "You're not the man I fell in love with"
>everyone knows that IST is the looksmaxxing board.
No, it's not gay. Looksmaxxers things IST is moronic AF.
>sir, this is /fit.
Stfu nerd
>I will be microneedling next month to help keep up my regimen.
I've been microneedling for a few months, but the more I read about it, the more doubts I have if it's a good idea, because there isn't much to confirm it even does anything other than increasing minoxidil absorption and prolonged use cause scar tissue to form. I think I'll reduce the length of the needles to 0.25mm from 1mm at least, which should reduce scar tissue formation and still help with absorption
Is microneedling just to increase the amount of topical min going systemic and being absorbed by the scalp?
I thought it was to encourage hair growth by creating new follicles or something.
At this point why not just take it orally?
it's supposed to encourage hair growth by stimulating collagen production and growth factors but there isn't any quality data to confirm it, because the studies usually combined it with minoxidil, I think there are even some studies that noted no difference between the placebo and microneedling alone groups, so it just as well could be because of increased minox absorption.
Why does this gay raise his pitch like an excited schoolgirl all the time? unwatchable tbh
He's a vegan who suppressed his androgens.
what? he's weirdly modulating his voice all the time for no reason, but it's not what high pitch of an excited schoolgirl is, that would be Greg Douchette
troony drugs.
>blood pressure/hair stimulant medication and 5ar blocker, increasing testosterone by 15% are "troony drugs"
spoken like a true troony afraid of the testosterone increase
8 years, 11 months, 8 days, 13 hours, 31 minutes, 23 seconds and 580 milliseconds until becoming a famous Alien Gay Skull
At this point your hair could easily grow back if you stopped eating like shit and getting plenty of sleep. Also start taking a prenatal vitamin.
where my fellow norwood 6 chads at?
its almost like everyone my age (your age) is balding since we grew up together browsing IST.
I’m fully malded
kino skull shape
are you planning on getting a swastika tattoo some time in the future?
hard
cool mirror
its been receding in the middle.
fricking IST oldgays and their hair problems. IST is another board that has these off topic balding threads pop up all the time
I've always had a widows peak but its slowly getting peakier
I am good with it. It's the coolest way to lose hair IMO
take the toupeepill
gay
Fricking gay, but damn it if good hair isn't like magic regarding improving your looks.
>but damn it if good hair isn't like magic regarding improving your looks.
Its sort of funny if you think about it. We are mostly naked animals with body hair in random spots. Then we have a thick tuft of hair on our heads. A naked molerat would look funny with a random tuft of head hair. To us it looks so good.
>A naked molerat would look funny with a random tuft of head hair
kek
idk maybe he looks good
what a little chad
Singles oof truth
I'm dutch btw
stop posting my pics
They look bad because of the hair on the sides of their heads for the toupees... ignoring how they act and dress.
It's the loose skin, no mass.
let's say your dirty secret is revealed, how do you even come back from that?
I can't think of anything more mortifying to have people find out about you tbh
its like females with makeup
Females wearing makeup is socially acceptable and expected of you, men aren't expected to wear toupees to hide their lack of hair.
Hair confirmed gay.
Yeah I think I'll just go full egg mode
Doesn't this shit frick up your scalp? Also afaik every piece has to be custom made or it will look like ass
imagine this guy waiting outside for them
Yeah dog, been shaving since my late 20s (32 now)
Holy frick that's hilarious
man, how do you shave without getting razor burns and red marks?
Hey mate, sometimes I do, but its usually its because I didn't change the blade on my razor and used a blunt one
Besides that, the more you shave the more your skin gets used to it. I use a shaving gel to shave and after shaving I rub in a moisturising after shave balm
Here's the products is use
Gillette shaving gel
Natio after shave balm
Have a good one mate
>mate
opinion discarded
Good. Enjoy your razor burn frickwit
holy frick that last one perfectly exemplifies the ape look those protruding smacking lips, prognathous jaw, atrophied frontal lobe and sloped forehead, the behavior.
total Black person death.
>going out of your way to frick with and antagonist random people on the street who are just going about their business trying to survive their everyday life
Yeah no, this is cringe, especially when you consider the fact that he probably makes money from making their lives worse and just being a pest. This is cringe. "Prank" shit like this is the lowest form of entertainment and I'd take no issue with the people doing it having their teeth knocked out after fricking with the wrong person.
In general? Yes.
In this case? No, get fricked baldy. Stop trying to trick people.
no lol
0.25mg of finasteride keeps the norwood reaper far far away
I'm balding, but I'm also 40.
I see this poor kid @ PF who's good sized, in his 20s, but holy shit... poor guy is thinning so fricking bad. I almost want to approach him to let him know how common it is, tbh.
just tell him hes looking good in general
I am balding massively all over the top of my head apart from ultra widows peaks since I am 23. On fin since 25. At 29 I look so fricked up, minox neither, needling neither. I have extremely shitty genetics. My only hope remaining is that I stay at this level and can get some good hair implants down the line and that I am married
>he started going bald before getting married
Bad life choice. Gotta careermaxx like hell now to make up for being follicly challenged
No, I am already married. She knows me only like this massively thinned etc. Curiosly I had my most luck with women in that state.
>minox neither, needling neither
it won't do shit without 5ar blockers, like finasteride (oral or topical), and/or topical antiandrogens, like RU58841 or alfatradiol
Bro he said he's been on fin since 25
sorry, didn't notice that sentence. there's a small chance the increased test levels in the scalp due to fin are still enough to cause hairloss then and RU or alfatradiol could help. otherwise 40% scalp DHT supression from oral fin may not be enough and instead topical fin, with up to 75% supression could work
Yes and its making me depressed.
yes. but I take dutasteride
yup, I think i'm just gonna embrace it and focus on making my body look really good
yeah but I ain't worried about it
I have a receded (nw2.5) hairline but I'm not balding anymore. After being on treatment for 2 years my hairline is proceeding.
yeah
yeah, fin/min have been working tho
i was really hoping i would get to stop paying for abortions but nope.
I have a big forehead, inherited my mom's slight widow peak, and my hair is going gray very fast, but thankfully not balding I guess
I think so. NW2 at 24 with what I think is thinning along my hairline. Seeing a trichologist on Tuesday. Can't wait for them to rip me off and talk out of their ass
I have diffuse thinning so I don't have to shave but I can't really grow out my hair either because it'd look like shit. Is there any way to fix it without troony drugs?
I'm looking into microneedling with a dermapen and rosemary oil. Despite the naysayers, there is a plethora of anecdotal evidence to indicate that it can work, at least if you're not a NW3/4 or above
>troony drugs
finasteride increases testosterone by 10-15%, you fricking mouthbreather. you may as well take testosterone blockers if you're afraid of a small test increase
finally decided to jump on fin, I'd been using topical dutasteride, but it requires microneedling to absorb due to its high molecular mass and I read about microneedling causing scar tissue, not really beeing proven to work for hair growth except increasing minoxidil absorbtion etc., so I stopped.
it's slightly less effective than topical dut and it makes me very horny and cum much faster for some reason.
My hairline is fine, no sign of hairloss looking straight on in the mirror, but a recent photo of the back of my head showed some scalp visibility on my crown and now I'm super self conscious about it. It feels wasteful to shave it all, like there's so much good hair everywhere except that one spot
You need to hop on finasteride and minoxidil NOW.
I'm balding haha.
That scarring or whatever looks concerning.
what the frick?
Is that why they all have that frickin haircut
That's really sad. Something in the zoomer way of living. I'm 30 and not even close to any of those.
I'm balding and my life is over.
yeah i buzz my head with no guard once a week, its ok ive gotten used to it, its better than what it looked like before
can u show me
Yeah. Just started finasteride. Hopefully it doesn't kill my dick. Or at least if it does Hopefully it'll kill me.
Pretty depressing ngl. Also my head is full of white hairs. Weird stuff.
I don't get why ppl take oral fin instead of low dose topical which affects system DHT way less
It's easier and everyone says it makes no difference anyway because all the fin seeps into your system like oral anyway
Bro watch haircafe and get the idea of side effects out of your head.
No i just have a masculine hairline
Yeah, it's over, it's over, I'm circling these vultures
yeah and it didnt start until i went full meat clown
Balding, receding and greying since puberty.
yes. i have shaved but im going to grow it out for a while, perhaps forever. going for the socrates look
>34
>full head of thick dark hair
>found out 50% of guys are norwooding by 30
>look around and find out it's actually true
>decided to grow out my hair just to make balding hairlets seethe
undeniably based
nah
>29
>stopped using fin and min because of no results from over a year
>ketoconazole shampoo literally rapes any remaining hair clinging on
At this point I'm terrified of washing my hair or shampooing it. Shampoos will add enough friction that actively makes my hair fall out from anything touching it and I hate it
Frick it dude. There is no good solution. Buzz it off. Will be weird for a bit but you'll get used to it. The strength of a man is that he can let things go and still maintain mental fortitude instead of developing psychoses like a certain other sex that won't be mentioned. Offer your hair to the temple of Man, and know that those that came before and those with you now did the same.
this is moronic. no shampoo, friction, etc. will have any effect on your balding. at the worst, you'll physically pull out the hair and it'll grow back, instead of falling out naturally due to its growth cycle a few weeks or months later. male-pattern baldness is caused only by androgens interacting with the receptors in your hair follicles, reducing the anagen and prolonging the telogen phase of hair growth, thus minaturizing the follicles.
Have a full head of hair. It's brittle and breaks easily tho. Every day I'll find 20 or so hairs on my desk from the previous day.
Oh frick yeah I am boy
>let hair grow out during corona
>FF to last year
>hair past shoulders
>hairline and bangs getting wispy wtf.jpg
>/fit freaks me out about losing my hair
>get on fin
>shedding phase freaks me out, but get through it
>get on min few months later
>FF to now
>constantly get women just blurting out 'i love your hair.' I mean every age says it. I've had kids start trying to braid it, I've had girls my age keep running their hands through it and i've had older women outright walk up to me in public and tell me that and ask about it.
Shit's wild.
your experience sounds just like me, I grew it out long and now I can't really get a haircut because it'll reveal my wispy diffusing hairline, so i started fin and got massive shedding of the wispy areas around 4 months in, I just started blasting liquid min orally about 2 weeks ago because I'm impatient and now I'm shedding again, but thankfully it's mostly tiny wispy hairs shedding.
oral min will accelerate all your hair though, i've never had a 5 o clock shadow come back so fast.
>blasting liquid min orally
boy you crazy
topical minoxidil liquid 5% is food safe, it's just min, ethanol, propylene glycol and water.
2 drop of the 5% preparation in the 1ml dropper is about 2.5mg of oral minoxidil
By 2 drop do you mean 2 droplets or 2 doses of the 1ml pipet
2 drops of liquid, absolutely DO NOT take 2 whole doses of the 1ml dropper, that would be 100mg of oral minoxidil and your blood pressure would drop dangerously low.
Every pippet is different, so measure out how many drops you get out of it when filled up to the 1ml line.
5% v/v minoxidil is 50mg per 1ml of the liquid stuff, so just divide by the number of drops.
Typical dosages for oral min are 2.5mg twice a day or 5mg once a day.
*typical dosages for hair growth
As a blood pressure medication. it's usually prescribed at 10-40mg.
Does oral min make you grow body hair on your back and shoulders if you didn't have it before?
It might make them grow thicker and faster but if you don't have back and shoulder hair already, you're not genetically set up for it anyway.
Then oral min might be for me.
after 3 months I only notice some minimal growth on my scalp and under my lower lip and my eyebrows getting denser.
or you could not be a moron and use a 1ml syringe to dose reliably. just saying
can a 1ml syringe reliably dose out 2-4 drops?
I'm pretty sure the dead space in a 1ml syringe is greater than that.
We're dealing with quantities of 0.05 to 0.1ml at the most, I think even a 0.3ml insulin syringe would be more useful.
one line in picrel is 0.01ml. it's sufficient, but get a smaller one if you like.
that looks like more work than just shaking my min bottle in the morning and putting 4 drops of liquid min in a shot glass and drinking it with water, plus the dropper lets me keep the airtight seal.
>2 drop of the 5% preparation
started doing the same. at first I bought 100 5mg tablets, but they were crazy expensive and the results weren't that great. I only noticed my hairline creeping forward maybe half an inch and gaining some density (my hairloss is pretty advanced already, Norwood 3-4A, I've been balding since I was 12), so I started applying it once a day topically again, with tretinoin or differin this time and taking 2.5mg orally 12 hours later.
also, I was getting some lightheadedness when standing up fast from the floor on 5mg and it completely disappeared with 1ml 5% topically and 2.5mg orally
There's nothing wrong with balding. It requires you to use different techniques to look good is all
What sort of techniques?
Technique: you have to find a mountain and live on it for the rest of your life
>buying wigs
>flying to the Middle East and paying a roach to Frankenstein your scalp every five years
>wearing lots of hats
its over
>no haircut for a year
>going for a second year
It’s feels cozy to rock a ponytail and people complimented me already 🙂
IM SCARED FIT, IM SCARED OF THE NORWOOD REAPER I DONT WANT TO GO BALD, IM 23 IM TOO YOUNG (not actively balding but FEAR the norwood israelite) :~~*~~*
I've been shaving/cut short for years now. Started with a bald spot in the back and I just said frick it. Almost a decade later and my hair hasn't receded horribly but I got them diffuse thinning genes.
Honestly I never looked good, if anything I would delete all the hair on my head if I could, I hate the "five o clock shadow" more than not having hair.
Most fit is balding because of zinc deficiency due to gooning too much.
I stopped fapping and started taking zinc, would recommend. Hair feels thicker and I have vivid dreams every single night now, last night I was exploring pyramids.
Should i go bald?
No you're good homie
your place looks comfy
I took too much creatine through energy drinks while in college. My hairline has never been the same.
RIP
out of your way to frick with and antagonist random people on the street who are just going about their business trying to survive their everyday life
>Yeah no, this is cringe, especially when you consider the fact that he probably makes money from making their lives worse and just being a pest. This is cringe. "Prank" shit like this is the lowest form of entertainment and I'd take no issue with the people doing it having their teeth knocked out after fricking with the wrong person.
how does IST cope with greying beard though? I feel like a grandpa and I barely turned 30
Grey beards are kino. Bit of salt and pepper. Would much rather a greying beard than going bald
Yes, I embraced it, and haven't felt so good about my hair situation since teenage years. I wasted 10 years worrying about this stupid shit...
Shit happens, just accept it and move on.
Yeah.
>tfw receding against my will
I'm 20 and have nice blond hair that I don't want to lose. My hairline is already receding and the top looks kind of thin when you shine a light on it. Do I get on the fin or the other one? Minoxodil or whatever it's called.
It really doesn't hurt to do both, both will make you shed at the beginning so you might as well do them both at once assuming you can source both of them cheaply because these are long term commitments for as long as you want to keep hair loss away.
unfortunately, yes
I'm NW V at 26. Makes me kinda sad but at least I have a good skull shape. My gf says she doesnt mind but I know she probably wishes I had hair
I have hair loss in a weird area. Not sure if it's male pattern baldness. The quacks at hims and keeps said it was.
>Tfw swirl is off-center
some people start thinning at the crown and it radiates outwards, especially on dudes who don’t have receding hairline. you’re thinning, anon
I used to like my curly hair but it looks terrible with my vegeta tier hairline.
Straighten it?
If my thinning hair progresses to bald spots I will trim it down and become a backwards hat man. I already did that once when I shaved it previously. Was kind of cool.
37yo should i keep the gray
Honestly at the end of march im going to quit my Waite job and get a hair transplant. Not bad but my hairline is a little receded
There are some pretty simple things you can do do to prevent going bald. First thing is making sure your hormones are well balanced. If you are taking stuff to raise your test, eating lots of sugary or estrogenized foods, and getting little sleep will throw your hormones out of whack.
>start oral fin at NW2
>shed for four months straight, fingers and comb laced with hair every time I shower
>shedding finally slows out after those months
>hair now a NW3 after all that shedding
>been months since
>no signs of regrowth
>hair looks worse
Cool. All the guys who say fin nuked their hairline I now believe. I don't give a frick if the mechanism is not understood. I started taking fin, it gave me a giant shed, the shed hairs didn't come back. My hair looks worse than ever.
these people are mentally ill