Is 4 day UL the most retarded routine ?

>whole program is basically just 2 full body a week makes it even worse than a full body
>way too many legs more than SS

  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    you fucking idiot lurk more

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    This is how the majority of D1 and top tier athletes train you retard. I’ve been through two different D1 programs myself and know a damn good amount of people from about 30 other programs as well and it’s pretty common all around.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      U/L is what you spin your wheels on retard

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Oh ok then. I guess I have no clue what I’m talking about then and my training was a patio. Thanks for clearing it up for me.

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    splits don’t matter until you have been lifting consistently for like 10 years straight and are reaching the very extent of natural gains

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >not just doing push/pull and deciding how much legs you do

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >another newfag retard who thinks there's a best split
    Post body, dipshit.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >the way you train does not influence the outcome

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        as long as you hit all muscle groups, yeah it won’t. Are you one of those retards who think doing low reps will magically make you gain 100 pounds of fat?

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >what is fatigue management

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            You don't lift enough for it to be relevant

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          it depends on lots of characteristics like workload capacity within the bounds of a single workout, and fatigue management on the macroscale with the higher frequency of some splits like anon said

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >what is fatigue management

            doesn’t matter if you’re not past intermediate lifting which you 2 definitely aren’t considering you still haven’t gotten past thinking basedentifically optimizing your workout is a thing

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              i mean yeah it doesnt mean a lot in the short term, but just winging it every workout makes it super easy to skip days and lay off on intensity. following a specific split and periodized program was super helpful for keeping me on track since i knew EXACTLY what i was going in to do.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                That´s good for you mate. You´re still a DYEL who doesn´t know shit. U/L remains extremely popular for a reason, though personally I go for 3 Upper days and 1 Lower

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Im not saying not to use a program. What I’m saying it was the intensity that got you your gains. The program made it easier for you to have the intensity.
                The program you chose is not something magical and perfect and special. The gains were all on you. Pretty much any program could’ve worked, you just happened to pick the one you picked.
                Do you agree? Because that’s all I’m saying. I’m not saying don’t follow a program, I’m saying the program elitism people do on here is fucking retarded. 3 day full body, 4 day upper low, 6 day PPL, bro split, etc etc all can work

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                100% agree, i thought you were implying something like zoomer dyels walking into the gym and doing curls for 45 minutes just winging would be good because any stimulus would work. Aside from bro splits, i think any actual split would work the exact same for lifters in their first 2-3 years.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                exactly except bro splits work fine if we’re talking about a serious chest/back + arms + legs/shoulders type bro split and not just the meme concept of “heh I’m just going to do chest day... everyday”

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                i think they can work for sure, but even a beginner would see some quicker gains training muscle groups 2x week rather than 1. I may be completely fucking wrong its just a hunch.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Absolute beginners should use higher frequency to get practice, but we're talking about people who are retarded weak. Like you ask them to put a 20lb box on the top shelf and they'll do it, but then they'll fail a 15lb overhead press for no reason. That kind of retarded weak.
                After they snap out of that they can use whatever frequency they like. 3x if they want to save some reps and go more often or 1x if they want to go balls to the wall and recover all week. It doesn't really matter.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Your split is whichever one works with your excercise selection and chosen frequency. Ergo there is no best or worst split. There's just your split at the current moment. I get that you"re a dyel retard who's just instigating here to provoke people into telling you the answers so I'll help you out. Listen to what I just told you and ignore the rest of these retards because they're just like you.

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >allows for more volume per muscle group in the same amount of time
    >PPL literally does the same thing but takes it a step further to even divide the upper body into 2 days
    yeah bro these splits are just useless, im gonna go train all arms today!!!

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    upper/lower was the best for strength development for me, you can't beat it in terms of specificity, but a big time sink

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >time sink
      As opposed to what? PPL? Full body?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        yeah i did upper 2-3x weekly and lower 2x weekly. my preferred is full-body 3x weekly. much more manageable, but obviously you can't focus as much

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    2x a week upper body full focus is better than training upper body 3x a week after you're already tired from squats. That said, personally I believe the superior split is ULxULUx with at least one of those days heavily focused on arms

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      That´s good for you mate. You´re still a DYEL who doesn´t know shit. U/L remains extremely popular for a reason, though personally I go for 3 Upper days and 1 Lower

      >guys ULxULxx isn't retarded
      >doesn't do ULxULxx

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        2x vs 3x a week upper body doesn't matter that much for results, it's just a matter of convenience between shorter more frequent workouts vs longer less frequent ones. UL 4x a week isn't my favorite, but it's far from being the most retarded split, that doesn't even make sense.

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    personally i really like the 5 day ULPPL split. combines two of my favorite splits for a little bit more volume and focus on muscle groups on the PPL days.

  10. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >way too many legs more than SS
    delusional.
    SS ends up being more legs since you do squats EVERY workout. First to add on.
    My bench stalled hard after squats since I would get elbow pain sometimes from squats.
    Also if you seriously add 5lbs on your squat every workout you will be trashed after doing 5x5.

  11. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Push Pull Lower Upper (focus on arms)
    Im enlightened.

  12. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    You have limited amounts of energy that take time to replenish. By spreading your exercises further out you ensure that you can give more of your all to each one. And besides, 30-45 minutes 4 times a week can be easier to fit into someone's schedule than 1 hour-90 minutes 3 times a week.

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