Is a calorie really a calorie?

Is a calorie really a calorie?

  1. 7 days ago
    Anonymous

    >The calorie is a unit of energy. For historical reasons, two main definitions of "calorie" are in wide use. The large calorie, food calorie, or kilogram calorie was originally defined as the amount of heat needed to raise the temperature of one kilogram of water by one degree Celsius. The small calorie or gram calorie was defined as the amount of heat needed to cause the same increase in one gram of water

    No.
    It's chemical science which has been bastardized to let companies sell food that only translates to calories in a lab setting.

    The most rebel diet these days is to eat simple whole foods and primarily meat.
    Simple healthy food is being attacked by 'science' nonsense.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      No study has ever demonstrated otherwise.

      Retards like you are a problem to humanity. Calorie is a valid unit for energy consumption because when we produce energy we literally burn it in an oxidative process which produces heat and carbon dioxide to yield ATP. If you don't believe that is the case, stop breathing. That's why you breathe, to get oxygen for that process. Please do demonstrate how you are right by doing that in live stream.

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        >thinks all calories immediately turn to fat
        >doesn't even know what obesogens are

        Keep consuming that seed oil vegchud.

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          I don't think so. You need to take medication and then re-read what I posted and reply properly to the points I made.

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        We do not literally burn calories you retard. Do you think humans are some kind of steam engine. We oxidise which is literally a different process.

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          Yes we don't burn calories. Calorie is unit of energy. The amount of energy we consume can be accurately assessed as calories for reasons I described. I also offered you a way to prove everyone wrong: start livestream now and stop breathing.

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            Holy fuck you are dense, I was not the guy you were arguing with. I just wanted to call you for being a retard who believes that the human body literally burns fuel. People say colloquially that they are burning calories, this does not mean that the human body actually burn the food you are eating. Go take a science class. The human body uses the process of oxidisation, not fire.

            • 6 days ago
              Anonymous

              Yes it does burn the fuel we eat. Burnable matter + oxygen = heat + CO2 + water. Energy yield unit is calorie or joule.

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          Why do you people double down?

          I'm a student of biopsychology, and you had me going for a second, but then I saw the response and they clearly had a richer understanding of the subject matter.

          I only ever had to learn the basics, but one of the most impactful things for me was beginning to understand the similitude of all things that are engineered, whether naturally or artificially. A part of that is understanding that things scale. I feel like that's what's got you stuck conceptually, so, I can assure you, yes, you do "burn" energy, with all the heat and carbon dioxide that comes with it.

  2. 7 days ago
    Anonymous

    Please explain this image like I'm retarded. Is this pro or anti vitamin/normal mouse diet?

    • 7 days ago
      Anonymous

      it appears the vitamins made the right mouse smaller

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        >i would totally look retarded and bright yellow if it meant i could be bigger than a normal person

    • 7 days ago
      Anonymous

      I think it's saying the mouse that was given vitamins minimized the damage BPA (a hormone disrupting compound) does to a lifeform. While anecdotal at best, and complete bullshit at worst, it does imply that under healthy circumstances the body can handle negative chemicals better.

      • 7 days ago
        Anonymous

        but the vitamin mouse has worse fur and is half the fucking size

        • 7 days ago
          Anonymous

          >worse fur

          That's just shine on it's coat idiot

        • 7 days ago
          Anonymous

          >implying mice are supposed to be lard buckets

        • 7 days ago
          Anonymous

          The "healthy" looking mouse is an obese, cancer ridden idiot
          The smaller one is a healthy regular mouse

          • 7 days ago
            Anonymous

            Lol how do you know he's an idiot he might be a little smarty pants.

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          >s half the fucking size
          let me guess, you consider obese americans to be peak physical health because they are big?

    • 7 days ago
      Anonymous

      Nothing like that, it's about a paper talking about epigenetics and the agouti alele

  3. 7 days ago
    Anonymous

    It can't just be the seed oils is it?

    I can't believe that obesity is caused by toxic shit. All my life I've been told it's my fault. What is the real truth? I am so confused my head hurts

    • 7 days ago
      Anonymous

      polyunsaturated fat takes up more space than saturated, poly also is easily oxidised and actually comes packaged already oxidised due to the high heat of expeller pressing, and oxidised fat takes up even more space, it is also biologically harder to remove and utilise oxidised poly fat for energy or building than unoxidised sat fat

      • 7 days ago
        Anonymous

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    • 7 days ago
      Anonymous

      >What is the real truth?

      how could obesity be caused by anything other than eating too many calories? scientifically?

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        hormones and metabolic pathways are a thing.

    • 7 days ago
      Anonymous

      don't let yourself be fooled, friend. always realize the blame is on yourself and you can always do better.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      it's your fault for eating toxic shit
      the world is not a safe space and no one cares if they kill you, only if they there will be legal reprecussions
      there won't be

  4. 7 days ago
    Anonymous

    First of all, no two animals can be genetically identical, so jot that down.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      What if they're clones of the ultimate lab rat, Big Rat?

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      identical twins? they probably used the moms as surrogates for some Stacy and Chad couple

  5. 7 days ago
    Anonymous

    does this mean i can binge out on hamburgers and bacon all day if I just eat the highest quality hamburgers?

    fucking sweet!

  6. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    Thanks for shitting up the board, OP.

  7. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    What is so hard about the out part of calories in calories out

  8. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    Humans aren't mice you Mongolian basket weaving gay

  9. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    >counting calories and being on a deficit makes you lose weight

  10. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    It just goes to show that you are what you eat because the mouse on the left looks like a nice piece of cheese and you can see the sadness in the right mouse's eye.

  11. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    Rules regarding nutritional labeling on food allows the Kcal measurement to be up to 20% off. And I can promise you that "healthy" food is going to be most off.

  12. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    >genetically identical
    >different color
    Who tf cares what the mother was fed, the two mice were fed different diets as well.
    They had different mothers, they're not genetically identical. What a load of horse shit

  13. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    I was my 130lbs @6'0 when all I ate was fast frozen pizza, microwavable meals, fast food, chips, chocolate and only drank energy drinks and soda.

  14. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    thermic effect of food already makes it a dumb statement without any consideration of uncoupling or feed efficiency

  15. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    Depends what you are arguing. Fit is obsessed with calories but calories =/= health. Calories matter only in terms of gaining weight and losing weight. And in that setting a calorie is really a calorie. But on a micro level there are like million different variables.

    Getting calories from protein obviously enables you to build muscle and feel satiated etc. Getting enough calories from fat keeps your hormonal levels in check and lastly carbs, well carbs are the least important but definitely good source of calories for training and energy.

    Then getting your calories (macros) from frozen pizza vs home-made food. Well obviously if you consume 2000 calories of both and you are on a 500 cal deficit yes they both work. But if you only get calories from frozen pizza chances are you going to be deficient in plenty vitamins and micronutrients and feel like shit.

    So it depends.

  16. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    Holy shit! Look how yellow! That rat on the left is wicked jaundiced. I'll bet half of its mass is liver.

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