>is a pointless ego lift for permabulking fatties

>is a pointless ego lift for permabulking fatties

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  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    kek
    keep trying lil guy, you'll hit 1pl8 one of these days

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I'm so fricking close to 3x8 for 135. Stuck at 130 right now.

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    small bench detected

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Post shoudlers

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Post body.

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I have never seen anyone but me doing this at the gym

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >mogging the whole gym with a strict 185x5 ohp
      it's the easiest lift to mog everyone at.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I have to stifle a laugh when I see someone doing push presses or half reps

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        If you're doing heavy back shit you really gotta be doing sitting bb ohp to keep your ribcage muscles strong and shoulders healthy. My front delts were atrophied till I realized this amd posture trash, now I can see my ribcage and I'm fat.

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I have long arms and do these for 20 reps. I absolutely dread them and always end up distorting my body at the final reps.

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    DB version is probably superior in every way possible for you, but I do them with a bar anyway

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      You do DB for hypertrophy work.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        What the frick is the barbell version for then

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          fun

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          About 20% higher load capacity, so better for strength work. Also, it isolates the from delts more. Barbell is easier on the shoulders and the way the bar distributes the weight makes it a different stimulus. So it's good to alternate them.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >so better for strength work
            wrong. You don't know how training works.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Shut the frick up moron, you can't give a single reason as to why I'm wrong. You probably hate barbells or something.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          injuries

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          kicking up dumbbells for seated ohp sucks

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        seated with a very high incline (70-80) allows moving the most weight

        What the frick is the barbell version for then

        you do standing OHP because it's a fun lift

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          seated with a barbell*

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      It honestly is. I do close grip bench, ring push ups and ring dips. I've already hit 155lbs for 10 reps on OHP. I'm doing bodybuilding now and realized how useless and redundant it is.

      Nah

      Is it? I’ve always done it because I thought it was as important to a routine as bench, squat, and deadlift. I don’t particularly enjoy it but I do it anyway

      Ya it's pretty useless. Do upright rows instead of you want a compound for shoulders

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I wouldn't call it entirely pointless and I don't know what he means by ego lift but it's not great. I bench because I can't hit my chest harder than that. I squat because I don't have a leg press and leg extension machine. I deadlift because I can' hit my spinal erectors harder than that. I do pullovers on a decline bench with an ez bar because I think it's an excellent compound for using two different muscles to do the same thing, (upper triceps and lats).
        The OHP is a good delt lift at the bottom half and then stops using your delts and is a good tricep extension at the top. Two different things. Two good things but I think it's better to separate them since you can different weight with each and they don't help each other like in the aforementioned pullovers.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      seated smith machine felt better on my joints
      getting to the big boy weights is troublesome with dumbbells to get it in place

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Smith machine
        >Big boy weights.
        >I got tired of trying to lift what I can't stabilize so I took stabilization out of the equation. I'm the real man working out while sitting.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      they hated him because he was right

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    It took me <6 months to go from 75lbs to 135lbs 5x5 but it's taken me over 1.5 years to bench 225lbs and I am just mad about that

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      it's because you're frauding the OHP

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Look up Louie Simmons, and how his gym trains to bench. Helped out like crazy.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        RIP

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    post shoulders

  10. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Is it? I’ve always done it because I thought it was as important to a routine as bench, squat, and deadlift. I don’t particularly enjoy it but I do it anyway

  11. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    overhead movements are great for longetivity, proper mobility and complete shoulder development

  12. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    This is the only press variation for combat sports. The whole kinetic chain behind you and the whole shoulder girdle involved. You could rationalize dips and benching being useful to jiujitsu I guess, but for striking and wrestling you need to be doing ohp.

  13. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    When people refer to 1/2/3/4, do they mean 1RM or for reps?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      For 12 reps.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      "work out" is a verb; he means "workout".

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      20 repetitions with 4 second controlled eccentrics

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      1RM

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Zoomers mean 1RM, but it used to mean 5x5 (circa Starting Strength peak popularity days)
      Zoomers do everything half assed

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        it was always 1RM
        the second it becomes repetitions, it's anywhere from 2-20 and loses meaning
        if you're doing 1/2/3/4 for 10, you're in reality around 2/3/4/5

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >1/2/3/4 for 10 reps does not get you even close to 2/3/4/5. It gets you more like 1.25/2.3/3.35/4.4.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            I can't do 2pl8 for 10, I have benched 2.5pl8. Go punch the numbers into any 1RM estimator apart from the OHP and you'll get the numbers I said, it of course varies and is less accurate the further you get from 1 rep. If you can bench 2pl8 for 10 you're a few weeks of getting neurologically primed for heavy sets from benching around 130kg.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            You have shit form apparently. 8rm is about 80% of your 1rm, so even 225 for 8 reps should have you at 280lbs for 1rep

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            2 plate bench for 10 is like 275 or 285 for a 1rm

            you are moronic

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          lmao newbie get off this board
          1/2/3/4 always meant to be for 5 reps before 2016 when all these newbies migrated to IST. that "goal" was a subset from Mark Rippetoe's teaching
          lurk more homosexual

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            1 rep is easier to remember honestly

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              1RM for 1/2/3/4 isn't even that high of a bar to achieve. It got popular in misc bb forums and IST because it WAS hard to 5x5 it.
              Fricking zoomers and newbies always want the easy way out, claiming 1/2/3/4 but only doing half assed 1 Rep lmao

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      1rm, gaging strength off of something x reps is so stupid because your cadence affects it so much. 1 rep as heavy as you can go is the true test of what you can actually get. This is why 1rm calculators are so inaccurate past like 3 reps

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Its for 3x10 on each of those lifts

  14. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Not if you have performance based goals. Take a punch for example. Imagine two guys of the same weight, each having no idea how to punch and all they have is their pressing strength to go on. One guy benches 225 as his only press variation. The other guy ohp's 135 as his.

    The second guy is going to recruit his obliques and whole shoulder girdle behind that punch and is capable of KOing you. The first guy is going to have only arm and shoulder behind it and will give you an ouchie.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >thinks he can win fights cause he does OHP

      powerlifters are so cringe

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        What a moronic homosexual. Learn to read. The post assessed punching power without any other movement involved, and directly specified not knowing how to punch.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >thinks he can magically karate chop his way into a victory against someone twice his size and strength (just like in my favorite movies!!)
        Holy frick how do twinkies even manage to become this delusionmaxxed lmaooo

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          To be fair most people resort to moron flailing and shoving because nobody can throw a punch with their body.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          It's weird some people will learn a martial art and then insist on staying 135 lbs / 60 kg to stay in their competition weight class. Learning to box and wrestle is good, but why not get stronger and more powerful too?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            If they were really smart they would do a sport that isn't getting concussions in training and competition for money. They think there's no such thing as someone large fast and high skill.

            They'd rather train technique for 6 hours a day like shit instead of good training and weights because they're moronic.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Size and strength is for cringe low class meatheads!! (I am superior based enlightened high class)

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              This is the ideal martial arts physique. Anyone can throw a fight ending kick on anyone squatting like 4pl8s or even less tbh if you're really good and lower weight helps you throw it quicker. But you need big ass forearms wrists and shoulders to effectively put all your weight into a punch, makes you faster if you train to do reps faster too.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              what an annoying little shit

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >One guy benches 225 as his only press variation. The other guy ohp's 135 as his.
      Pls be kg

  15. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    OHP is my favorite lift. or it was until I moved my squat rack inside. Now it feels really weird from a seated position.

  16. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I've been stuck at 100lbs for a bit now. I'm 155 lbs

  17. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I just want to OHP my fiancee at some point because it would be cool, stay mad

  18. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I've just been doing upright rows as a delt compound, feel it way more than I ever did with ohp and I used to do them all the time

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Based this exactly what I'm saying

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I do more than enough pressing volume, and it just makes more sense to me to train it as a pull movement. The pressing variants that actually hit the lateral head end up feeling just as limited rom as uprights anyways. BB ohp only ever felt like a front delt and tricep exercise to me, and I at least got up to 1plate before I made this decision

  19. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I still do a few light dumbbell overhead presses because I'm scared of neglecting some minor muscles. But yea for bodybuilding you're better off doing lateral raises and incline bench.

  20. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    kek OP sucks at OHP

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      This sounds solid but I've never done it. I was stuck at 135 1rm for a good year or so then I started doing my front squats holding the bar, not in the traditional rack position on the front delt but rather in my hands at the bottom of an ohp.

      It's not going to serve as a main squat movement due to the limiting factor being in the ability of the arms and upper back to stabilize the bar, but as an accessory movement it's good leg volume and damn it helped my ohp. Controlling the bar in my hands at 155 for sets of 10 through a full squat definitely helped 135 feel much lighter when I don't even have to squat it. Currently pressing 135 for 10.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I'm at 135 for 5 or so reps and I never did that either, I really shared it for the tendon/ligament portion not so much rep scheme

  21. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    It’s fun I am ugly and have no friends so I lift for fun

  22. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Honestly, this was my favourite compound movement when I did Starting Strength. I ditched SS because I hated it and opted for one that more or less exclusively uses machines now but thanks for reminding me, I'll do some overhead presses next time I'm at the gym.

  23. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    thats not a bench press, squat, or deadlift tho.

  24. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I don't even lift big but look like I lift 1.5x what I do, does everyone else just ego lift?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      what the frick are you talking about esl moron

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I'm kinda fat it's probably my fat distribution but I look strong as frick and I'm not even repping out 2pl8s.

  25. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I've been told pull ups and vertical pressing is great for your physique

  26. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >doesn't know what high frequency training is

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Is that owning a home gym and hitting the weights every time you go to the garage for a bowl?

  27. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    OHP is my favorite lift.

  28. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I’m a newbie and out of everything it feels like my deltoids have grown the most and I can only attribute this to OHP. The growth has actually been sort of impressive.

    That said I started with minimal upper body strength and I’m only now hitting 90 lbs 3x8. I need to push myself harder because I think I back off too quickly and should just go heavier and not worry about always hitting 3x8. Still, one plate feels like a fantasy at this point.

  29. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >lifting for a year
    >don't do OHP
    >gym's empty so decide to try it out whilst i was resting after squats as there was already a BB setup with 10kg on either side
    >actually struggled to frick to do even 1
    bros...
    I want to start doing them but there is no way I am doing OHP's with 5kg when there are people around

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >bench works front delts

  30. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    why is it in every reputable beginner lifting program then? it seems like a pretty solid compound lift. it's fun to do and looks cool. and lifting shit over your head is fricking badass. it's primordial. if you don't enjoy it you're a weak pathetic genetic aberration. even 20, 50 years ago... hell... even in a developing nation in present day, us OHP'ers would be hunting you down, bashing your skull in and chewing your brains for a quick carb-boost. you are a disgusting excuse for a man.

  31. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    for me, it's the barbell row. The most hateful exercise

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I hate the overhand grip version, but love underhand.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I find overhand hits the back more, underhand is too easy to treat like a curl. Overhand I can haul a lot more weight.

  32. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    OHP number doesn't really go up by doing OHP, just work triceps, incline press, and shoulders for strength in your OHP working sets, hit shoulders every day otherwise they'll lag behind your other muscle groups and also because they recover really fast. Maybe hit traps if you have weak traps. I wanted a big OHP and hit 2 plates once when I was a teenager over the summer, I did shoulders in the morning every morning then my normal schedule during the day. It worked.

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