Is Collagen or meme or it actually works in improving facial appearance?
 CRIME Shirt $21.68 |
 Shopping Cart Returner Shirt $21.68 |
CRIME Shirt $21.68 |
Is Collagen or meme or it actually works in improving facial appearance?
Is Collagen or meme or it actually works in improving facial appearance?
CRIME Shirt $21.68 |
Shopping Cart Returner Shirt $21.68 |
CRIME Shirt $21.68 |
>Is Collagen or meme
A meme*
the loss of collagen is what makes your hair and skin age and look dry and brittle. Collagen is why babies smell so good and the lack of it why old people smell old.
You can not supplement it, your body can only generate it. Collagen supplements are a meme yes
Old people smell is a specific chemical. You can't smell the lack of collagen, wtf is this post
wrong, you can supplement with amino acids that are essential for collagen production, so your body will make more.
collagen also provides the amino acids for collagen production since its collagen and has the amino acids.
No its not wrong.
Taking things to support bodies natural production is not the same as taking the thing it self. You can also not get your body to produce more of it then what your body's natural production rate of it is. And this rate goes down with age and you can't do nothing about that. (maybe top end science can if you throw mills at it)
Basic logic goes
Body naturally produces collagen
Collagen production decreases with age.
Body cannot take up collagen from supplement.
You are bound to lose collagen and see your skin wrinkle and rate of repair decrease.
Yes you can optimize for health and get all nutrients to allow your body to operate this process at its peak but nothing more then that.
>Body cannot take up collagen from supplement.
Are you sure about this statement? Im pretty sure Ive seen studies stating your body will use collagen supplemented.
>Are you sure about this statement?
I am very open to having it criticized and proven wrong. I have heard information that says that the body cannot take collagen in supplement form. Convince me it can be taken in supplement form and i will start taking it.
Well you don't have to take collagen, doesn't really matter. I was just asking where you got your info from. Give me a quick minute to see if I can find studies on collagen use when supplemented
I do not remember the initial sources on this which i have based my decision on kek (not good right)
https://www.jaad.org/article/S0190-9622(23)00279-7/fulltext
https://www.cnbc.com/2023/07/22/natural-ways-to-get-beauty-nutrients-like-biotin-and-collagen-in-food.html
https://www.verywellhealth.com/do-collagen-supplements-really-work-7199400
This is probably more decent one
https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/collagen/
What does the research say on collagen supplements?
Most research on collagen supplements is related to joint and skin health. Human studies are lacking but some randomized controlled trials have found that collagen supplements improve skin elasticity. [3,4] Other trials have found that the supplements can improve joint mobility and decrease joint pain such as with osteoarthritis or in athletes. [5] Collagen comprises about 60% of cartilage, a very firm tissue that surrounds bones and cushions them from the shock of high-impact movements; so a breakdown in collagen could lead to a loss of cartilage and joint problems.
However, potential conflicts of interest exist in this area because most if not all of the research on collagen supplements are funded or partially funded by related industries that could benefit from a positive study result, or one or more of the study authors have ties to those industries. This makes it difficult to determine how effective collagen supplements truly are and if they are worth their often hefty price.
Can You Eat Collagen?
Foods containing collagen or foods that help with collagen production including fish, shellfish, meat, oranges, kiwis, bell peppers, eggs, whole grains,There is a lack of research to show that eating collagen can directly benefit skin or joint health. When digested in the stomach, collagen is broken down into amino acids, which are then distributed wherever the body most needs protein. Still, many foods that support collagen production are generally recommended as part of a healthful eating plan.
At this time, non-industry funded research on collagen supplements is lacking. Natural collagen production is supported through a healthy and balanced diet by eating enough protein foods, whole grains, fruits, and vegetables and reducing lifestyle risk factors.
So it seems that, if you are eating a good diet and getting enough protein you got enough nutrients to support production. And the evidence that the body takes it up trough skin or digestion is lacking
>There is a lack of research
There are quite a bit if you search for them. A lot of them are very recent as well. Most studies say it won't help much for patients who already have significant cartilage issues but it does maintain and improve conditions for those who dont
>to determine how effective collagen supplements truly are and if they are worth their often hefty price
It is quite expensive for sure but its worth it for me. My joints feel a whole lot better on it than off. Not saying my joints are not bullet proof, just saying it helps maintain no pain or issues
>Not saying my joints are not bullet proof
meant to say "my joints are bullet proof". But I assume you understood
Here is one but for skin stuff. I was mostly looking at it for more muscular repair and maintenance, especially tendons and cartilage. Give me another few minutes to try to find those
https://www.mdpi.com/2072-6643/11/10/2494
woops forgot to post the link
Also another but just looking at increase of strength
https://www.mdpi.com/2072-6643/11/5/1072
>This randomized, placebo-controlled clinical trial confirmed that skin aging could be addressed using nutrients that are able to restore skin hydration, elasticity, and density. Objective dermatological measurements, such as cutometry and corneometry, have proven that oral collagen peptides together with other dermonutrients significantly improve skin hydration, elasticity, roughness, and density after three months of intake. These tests thus verify the results obtained in previous trials. Moreover, and in line with the objective measurements, the study participants, in their subjective assessments, concluded that their skin appearance had significantly improved.
Finally, the collagen supplement did not cause any side effects and proved to be safe and well tolerated during the entire period of application and thereafter.
A whole thread of morons talking out of their asses. So it works, and you can supplement collagen.
Most people are not inclined to read about how the particular amino acids in certain types of collagen are used and would rather reduce things to a yes or no answer as to whether or not it works.
What the frick is it that I’m meant to be looking at here? All I notice is this old prostitute just put on some form of makeup on her eyebrows to enhance her appearance
Get fricked snake oil charlatan b***h I would break your jaw irl
you wouldn't do shit
I could easily cut you down with my katana
>Get fricked snake oil charlatan b***h I would break your jaw irl
>charlatan b***h I would break your jaw irl
you can barely break wind
I dunno, it's weird, bought some and took a double dose for 10 days or so, then I experienced a sort of "glow up" where my skin was near perfect and awesome. Then it vanished in a matter of days, and I never achieved it again.
Collagen supps are nonsense because your digestive system just breaks them down it doesn't recognize them as collagen and send them off to your face.
You're better just eating lots of protein and vitamin C.
the point would be to give your body the same exact amino acids needed for collagen production, by consuming collagen
it's probably useless in people who already eat plenty of animal protein
I can maybe see it useful in people who don't eat enough, or maybe in old old people
This and also topical collagen is nonsense too because the molecule is apparently too large to be absorbed b the skin.
Eating collagen is a meme, it's not any better than any other good protein source.
Some populations each such little protein you can see improvements with a little collagen, but you'd see the same with eggs or whatever.
Literally no one can explain what's so special about collagen in a way you wouldn't already get from a couple eggs, chicken, salmon, milk that it quickly becomes clear it's snake oil
what is a good face routine?
take my load twice a day
Best way to get collagen is through animal products. Bone broths, meat products, eggs. All things ((they)) want to take away from you. Oh and garlic.
That's just 3 different levels of light.
You can tell by the eye color changing in each picture.
Supplements are a meme. If you're young you still have time to hop on preventative measures tretinoin, moisturizer & sunscreen. But at the end of the day what difference does it make looking slightly less old at 30. What matters is your birthdate at the end of the day.
>But at the end of the day what difference does it make looking slightly less old at 30
Very easy to say when you young and not 30 lmao. Once you get old, there is no turning back time and try to look younger. Its best to try to stay looking young for as long as you can, old dudes trying to pull young women wish they took better care of themselves when they were in their 20s
If you're still trying to pull in your 30s it's fricking over for you.
>There is no way im going to be looking at more women at age 30
>Ill be married in my 20s
Maybe you dont live an actual life outside of your parents house but to think there arent single dudes in there 30s is denying reality. Not everyone marries their high school sweethearts or the women they fricked in college
You don't have to be married to bein a LTR. You still have YEARS after college to find someone.
Yes so why wouldn't you want to take care of yourself and look good in your 30s? Most men will also have the best chance at marriage in their 30s since now they will be financially more stable. To tell young dudes to not take care of their appearance is extremely stupid and setting them up for failure.
Men age 23-29 have best chance. Looks play a big part.
Well, I was in a LTR in my twenties and it didn't work out and now I am single.
you didn't propose after wasting years I bet?
Ive been taking collagen and the only difference I can feel or see is in my joints. My knees used to crack and my elbows used to hurt during squats and OHP respectively. Collagen somehow stopped the cracking and my elbows feel extremely smooth.
The only difference I saw in my face was when I started using face shits since thats what you need to use to see changes in your face
No idea, but I know photoshop when I see it. They're using a techniqie called frequency seperation, it's what magazine photo editors use to control fine details in portraits. You can enhance or remove blemishes without blurring thr skin too much.
>anons give scientific reasons why it doens't work
>"Yes it does!"
There are also studies that show extra supplementation of collagen was still put to use.
Mf posted regina tiedemann and thought we wouldn't notice
complete meme and scam
my joints say otherwise
yes I believe it can help for joints. Op said improving facial appearance.
If you face has joints it could help
fair but i still stand on saying it helps with my joints
>If you face has joints it could help
mine does.
i'm derek btw.
take hydrolized collagen peptides and use retinol for a month and find out
collagen supplements never fail to give me insane deep cystic acne breakouts
Oh wow it microbladed her eyebrow and changed the camera focal length too? Collagen truly is magic.
Ingested collagen doesn’t turn into skin collagen. Stop throwing a tantrum you fricking moron.
Dunno, should have taken photos but I'm not sure how much supplementing peptides have done for me
Retinol and Moisturizer does wonders
I consoom collagen AND creatine
seethe and cope
Sugar ages your skin
Quit sugar
As simple as
tretinoin is the answer