>t. 20 year old virgin
I have never had any female friends, I don't know what to talk with them, I'm also a fat ass so I automatically think girls wouldn't like me and reject me.
This year I will lose weight and get in better shape. I will join sports clubs and go partying next year. But is it hard to get a gf? Or is it this shithole Chinese website?
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It's over
frick you homosexual
it's hard, I get it, but you just need to accept it
it's over
Ok you can continue being a loser, doesn't mean you pull others into your shithole ideology.
not pulling anyone
just a reminder
that it's OVER
Yes, frick his homosexual ass 😉
Dont be disheartened, i only just lost my v card at age 28, just keep at it
For me? Yeah.
I got demma abandonment issues and a couple other issues from having an alcoholic bipolar mother and a only ever communicates by screaming father.
>just get a gf
Isn't hard, but dealing with yourself and finding someone you might want to spend your life with is (you, being me)
very easy if you try. impossible if you sit home jerking off and self improoving.
t. 6ft
I'm a 21 year old Virgin soon. All of my friends abandoned me for being virgin, I've never had a woman show interest in me before, I'm 5'7 and a bit tubby but do weights. If I go to 150lbs will I have sex? Will I be happy? I'm miserable
>a bit tubby
Your friends abandoned you because you speak like a woman
Ok moron
What does this mean?
>All of my friends abandoned me for being virgin
Your friends didn't abandon you for being a virgin. They probably stopped talking to you because you were acting pathetic all the time, as evidence by your post.
How am I pathetic? I’ve worked harder than others, I was the only one in my friend group to actually exercise, they all drink and do drugs, I have more education then 90% of them, I’m training for a law degree and working currently. I have hobbies and try stuff too they all just watch tv and no other hobbies. How am I pathetic?
Maybe that's why they abandoned you. You are not a loser like them.
Being a virgin just tanks your social value though. Also being a manlet means even after lifting they still don’t really respect me. In all fairness im doing everything I can to not be a loser but the standards for today make it impossible for me really. I don’t know what else I can do
Modern normalhomosexuals are just buttholes Anon, don't take their stupid opinions personally
it's hard if you are in the bottom 80%
it's easy if you are in the top 20%
Getting in good shape will be a huge help.
Bug never having female friends is a big problem. Having a mixed sex friendship group as a teenager and beyond is a big part of the "dark matter" in the blackpill/redpill model of explaining relationship success.
Do you have a male friendship group at the moment?
Yes I have male friends.
I grew weed when I was 15 and that’s what led to me getting laid for the first time with one of the hottest babes in my class.
She even gave me footjobs it was based.
Nothing compares to the sex I had as a teenager. Even though now I could get laid with a diff chick weekly with inviting girls from apps overto my own place but it doesnt hit the same as that prime underage pussy where half the thrill is finding somewhere to fug and not get caught and every time youd see some new crazy shit that no girl had ever done before. Now nothing impresses me
Yeah that sounds cool and stuff but this one time when I was 16 I won a small time vidya tournament while my mum brought me dinner to my desk
I can’t imagine the shame she must’ve felt
no it's not, but having a hot gf is challenging and you will tested.
Also lose the weight, fatty. Your confidence will moon rocket and you will wish you did this sooner
Thanks bros.
I was 24 when I first had a girlfriend and got some pussy. All I did was joke around with my coworkers and next thing I know I have two girls asking which one I wanted to date. I wasted years not realizing it was that easy.
It’s hard to find a gf you actually want to be your gf. It’s probably not that hard to find someone. But to find someone you actually are excited to see and be around, I think that is hard.
Sometimes I almost wish that I was fat to have an excuse of why I'm a kissless virgin and then to become lean for the first time in my life and maybe finally have some progress in terms of getting girls.
I'm lean since I was a kid and a kissless virgin as well at near 30 years of age with no real excuse to it other than gigantic inexperience and being extremely timid.
same, don't care that much about it though until I'm in threads like these or see a hot couple on the street. Don't know what that says about me
Getting a gf is easy if you are social and neurotypical, in other words, if you're normal.
However, if you're like me and you don't have friends and you're mildly autistic, getting a gf is the hardest thing in the world
Losing weight will make getting a girlfriend much easier. I had no female friends growing up either and I was a virgin till I was 22. But I had never really tried before. If you live in a big enough city you can still get matches on dating apps being fat still. Then its a numbers game and you have to make up for being fat in other ways such as being really funny and interesting. So its best to be in good shape but regardless unless you become a chad you still have to put in a lot of effort to counter balance being average. Because you are competing against thousands. Its doable. Nothing is impossible.
>I will join sports clubs
Just buy some dumbbells and a pull-up frame so your fat ass has no excuse like "I don't have time today"
I am unemployed, have OCD and tourettes, obese, 5 foot 7 and I have had 2 wives and am currently with my gf of 2 years.
Bro join facebook dating or some dating app, try and match with anyone, be funny talk about your interests, meet someone.
I live rent free in my succesful gfs flat, make youtube videos and read books. If i can get pussy what the frick is holding you back? oh buy a good scent
You also have onset schizophrenia
It’s getting progressively harder for me and idk why? I’m in a better spot than I’ve ever been
>first date ever in high school, start dating
>break up, year goes by with no dates
>start dating girl after hooking up during college
>break up, another year goes by
>go on one date with another girl during grad school, date for 3 years
>break up a year ago
>go on dates with like 8 different girls, no luck
>been in cocoon mode for the past six months trying to get in better shape
Is it something to do with being done with school? I have a pretty decent job at an engineering firm
can all this woman winging please be banned and can all of you homosexuals frick off to /LULZ/? Goddamn this shit is annoying.
how much do you think jannies are paid?
Goddamnit. they'll ban boards they don't like but can't be fricked to garner at least a little good will amongst serious users. Frick Jannies.
I don't think it is, you just have to not be a neet. I was a 26 y.o. virgin, basically neet, then I started playing pokemon go and had all kinds of girls asking me out. I just never put myself in a position before that for anyone to notice me I guess. Stayed inside playing halo and diablo all day every day instead of going out anywhere.
>then I started playing pokemon go and had all kinds of girls asking me out.
I don't understand this, are you all literal tall attractive Chads who just got out of your room for the first time in your 20s or what?
I go out regularly and no girl has ever asked me out. And I only get rejected when I asked other girls. Never even kissed
Same, I go to pubs clubs went to college have been working odd jobs since I was 12 and still I've never had a woman show interest in me. I tried funking some fat 35 year old pub regular and she rejected me. I'm 5'7 and 5/10 face
People tell me I'm handsome. I don't believe them though.
Can you stop being such a woman "oh people tell me I'm so pretty all the time and want to have sex with me but I don't think so ;(" hope you get cancer
It’s called making shit up. 90% of the stories on IST are fake. Or do you actually think there are 6’ gigachads with 10/10 wives and living in mansions that post here of all places?
Getting one is easy. Now keeping a gf? That's where it gets tricky.
who knows, am 30, never talk to women (or men) outside of necessities. I'll consider dating if any women asks me out.
getting a gf is easy, getting a good girl is fricking hard. i’ve just been the guy they frick but don’t want to commit to. currently with this 8/10 blonde who is cheating on her programmer nerd bf with me. i can’t offer stability, money or status. just my body and personality, which isn’t enough for the 8/10’s. i won’t settle but it’s tiring
t. 6ft
I’m a kissless virgin at nearly 32
same, I'm talking to a girl now but I don't know what the frick to do
you guys are me except i'm 5'4 and 30 years old
never had a female friend in my life, khv, dont know how to talk to girls despite being 30
succesful career and inshape too, but doesnt matter if you're an inexperienced khv at 30
just adding another tallymark here. 31 years old, virgin. i find myself caring less and less over time. just becoming more stoic with age i guess. even in this sorry state, i can't help but feel it would be pathetic to give up and kill myself. men should not give up.
best way to talk to women is to listen. they can talk endlessly if you show interest and keep asking questions.
Being fat is a death sentence though if you're also autistic, fix that immediately
>Or is it this shithole Chinese website?
this one, women are people, different but still normal. be healthy and be a man, women are designed to look for that and reach for it.
Women just give me one word answers I am out of questions like 45 seconds in
2 things could be happening
>woman doesn't care about you
women are the gatekeepers of relationships, once you show interest the ball is in their court. you can't play mind games, you can't 'charm' them, they figure all that out in like 5min of meeting you.
>your questions are about something she doesn't care about
less likely but it helps if she has an interest in the topic. since you are on IST talking to you is probably like walking uphill (no offense im the same) she's gotta be the one rambling on
I'm a schizophrenic autist, and so I haven't asked a woman out since I was like 15. And while I did get a decent amount of attention from women when I was in middle school and high school, that was over 20 years ago before my psychological disorders really started to fully manifest, and so I seriously doubt that I'd get any matches if I created a profile on a dating app or tried to ask a woman out in real life. But maybe I'll get the courage some day to put myself out there and see how it goes. And while my inceldom is somewhat self-imposed because I'm a mentally ill recluse, I seriously doubt that I'd still be a virgin if I was born female. Unlike men, women can just sit back and wait for men to come to them, even if they're a sub-5. That rarely happens to men unless they're extremely successful and good looking - which I'm not. And so it's definitely harder for men than women to get a partner. Dating apps prove that beyond a shadow of a doubt.
It has been for me.
yeah honestly its easier making money than it is finding a gf
I'm 5'5. It is over for me, but if you are above my height you have a chance
I'm 5'7, it's over for me. 6ft minimum
My advice is not to be too picky. Cute/wifey-girls are hard to come by so don't be a moral homosexual and wait 20 years for the right one to make your special gf. Go out and practice with random girls.
It's the hardest thing you will ever attempt, just make sure to never marry a woman and keep them frickzoned, then you'll be alright
I was a virgin till 29.
Hooked up with the coworker at from another country, half year later came to her and we lived together for a year before splitting.
Being fit and at least 6/10 helps a lot. So work out my dude.
Your language is a problem and you may not notice it. "this year..." and "next year..." are easy ways out. You accept the expectation that you will need to "lose weight and get in shape", but do you really know what it means to accept that?
TODAY dont eat any snacks, cook your food, do some push ups, go try a free class at a boxing gym, dance studio, rock climbing, or something similar. TOMORROW do better than you did today, and keep that going. Find a rhythm that feels good to maintain and will not drain you.
No, it's not hard to get a gf. It can be hard to keep one, and you need to be the type of person you imagine your future gf would be with. There are no shortcuts, the confidence and self assurance you need to ask her out you will need when she gets hit on by other guys endlessly, has her own life, and gets in arguments with you.
Being 20 is rough. Girls at 18-22 peak and get attention from all men 18-40. Use the next 5 years to get fit, learn as much as you can, travel, and once you hit 25 it will be funny how easy it is.
>I'm also a fat ass
lose weight
I am a 23 yo virgin. I am pretty attractive, or so I've been told. I am lean and muscular too. Nice hairline and all that. I am a little autistic but I can make jokes so people like being around me. The reason I am still a virgin is because I am poor af. Literally too poor to go out and do stuff that all chicks my age want to do (go out for drinks, eat at restaurants, go to the beach in the summer and so on). I don't really have a social life because of my financial situation. I am in the process of a long ass selection process for a pretty big agency in my country (they contacted me). If it all goes well I will start the training period and also start getting paid in January. If they don't select me, I'll just finish the master's degree that I am about to start next week. If I start making money I will also start going out more and trying social hobbies to make some friends and hopefully find a gf. If not, I'll just continue to focus on my master's, working out and other hobbies. I get really lonely sometimes but it is what it is. I just tell myself that it could be worse. At least I am not handicapped or sick. Damn this was a long blog post
Gambatte, i believe in you
>Is it actually that hard to get a gf?
Not if you're handsome.
I'm not even rich and tall, yet women of different races and ages have hit on me.
Brother, don't feel like shit. The dating pool has never been worse and the judgement of these gutter subhumans shouldn't drag you down.
Get fit and find outdoor hobbies you really enjoy. Make friends and live for the moment. It gets better as you get older so don't worry about it right now. I think your best years are yet to come
>be me
>autist
>almost no experience with women
>only had sex with one girl 9 years ago
>decide to try dating apps
>today match with QT art gril
How to I handle this? She responds in good time, but the messages are short. Is it over already?
This art girl isn't a poser, she's legit good. I'm going for it.
How do I ask her out as a 9-year-span no gf autist?
Just ask her out for coffee Anon, it's not as complicated as you think. good luck and godspeed.
I'll wait for her to reply and end my message with
>You want to meet up for coffee sometime?
Seems unrealistic for a cute girl to be interested in me, but she's kept replying so far.
>Still no response.
Oh well, longest I've lasted in a conversation. Last message probably came across as creepy.
Wow, I just got this message. Girls never gave me attention in the past.
Is this the power of being IST?
Depends on your value and standards
High value low standards = easy
Low value high standards = nightmare mode
What if I match easily, but women lose interest fast?
>20
>writing style
OP you have a long way to go. I mean that in a good and bad way. I wouldn’t bother trying until you lose the weight. Seriously you need to lose the fricking weight. You should be feeling the urgency at this point, because if you don’t you are in for a life that is a living hell. Really reflect on that. You need to be knocked out of your complacency. Your life depends on you losing the weight, so quite simply DO NOT buy any goyslop. It’s just that simple. You could be 25 in a much better place, but to be honest you probably won’t be in a better place at 22 just yet. That might sound a little disheartening, but keep in mind it’s not easy. Girls are picky. So it will take longer than you think. But as sure as you’re born those 5 years will pass. If you’re in shape and making money (notice I left out height), it will continually get better for you and you can have a good life. I’ve been in your spot except skelly instead of fat and am now 29. Age 20 feels like yesterday. My biggest problem now is I’m overly judgmental of people who b***h about their problems and do not do whatever it takes to change them
I'm 5'6 and have had girls reject me explicitly because of my height, even girls who said they thought I was good looking or told me they wanted to frick before they met me. When we did meet, they were nice but not sexually interested even if they were when texting and would usually quit talking to me afterwards or just as friends. I've gone on dates but never had a steady relationship and had sex only a couple times. I probably will have to become wealthy, even if I am otherwise fit, have a wide range of hobbies, and am facially good looking (i'm also white and not filipino/asian/indian/hispanic so that stands out even more). I really do think if I were like 5'9 or something I'd have a much better time
the height prob doesnt help but you probably are also awkward or bad at reading signals
This is the only real blackpill here yes. I'm very social, good body and good face but at the end of the day height is more important. I've got friends who are ugly as frick and aspies, and girls (and even gay men) legit just come to them and ask their numbers. Not even a bias, most of my friends are women and I've heard them say that height is the most important thing themselves
American? I can't imagine any woman here saying height is "the most important thing"
spain
Weird. Height isn't a big deal in England. I thought it was just one of thos cringeworthy American things. Then again, height isn't as big a deal anywhere as on this board on this shitty website
This is pure cope, in all of first world countries height is a major dictator for attraction now. If you’re under 6ft you’re gonna struggle, below 5’10 it’s basically over
I don't think I've ever heard it bought up as a factor of attractiveness irl. It's almost entirely an American thing. Keep saying "cope" because you spend too much time online and actually use terms lime that.
Why lie?
I don't know what that means. I'm heading out with my friends now. L8r
I’m sure you are
6' 9-year no sex autist here, my bother is 5'8 and has no trouble with women. Being average height isn't a problem if you are extroverted and charismatic.
He also got plenty of muscle for free, but is overweight. Women don't seem to care about guys being ripped, all that matters is being strong.
The probably cheat on him for taller guys but whatever
Very slim pickings unless you're ok with an obeast. Hoeflation is very, very real
I just fumbled the bag with a 10/10 qt, who was into all the same sorts of autistic shit I am, dnd, anime, vidya etc, and was extremely pretty. It's so frickin over. (pic related)
It's ok brother. I have had that happen a lot of times this year. One girl explained that going on 1st date was like a hobby to her, getting to talk with new people and being invited out for events.
What a complete lack of empathy for the people she's dating.
Another girl, told me she dated and fricked 5 people per week for a month straight. So she was having a "pause" :^)
>Another girl, told me she dated and fricked 5 people per week for a month straight. So she was having a "pause" :^)
American women really are unsavable aren't they? They will be wearing hijabs within the next half century
She was danish, 21 years old
Even the Scandis aren't exempt from this? Has globohomosexual ruined all white women worldwide?
I know a bunch of girls in my social circle who are 18 and they all have like a 50-100 bodycount. Whoring out since they are 14. But tbh guys that age are the exact same zoomers are just subhumans
>zoomers are just subhumans
No we aren't homosexual, it was your generations that made the world this way and raised up little girls to become bawds. Don't put the blame at our doorstep. Many zoomer men are well aware of how fricked everything is and desperately want a change
>desperately want a change
Something good can only rise from the ashes at this point tbh.
Zoomer men are well aware that we have nothing to lose and that we are getting completely fricked over by this system. The majority of military age males are now sexless virgins with nothing passivizing them other than food/porn/vidya and they are getting increasingly pissed off. What do you think happens as more of them realize they are destined to become slaves to the system they hate, with no hope for advancement? Zoomer men are going to raise hell in a decade or so, it's obvious
stop lying on the 4chin you moron
You are free to think what you want. She lit told me as I was lying next to her on 1st date.
>One girl explained that going on 1st date was like a hobby to her, getting to talk with new people and being invited out for events
So she just admits that she used you to get free food? What a fricking prostitute
>going on 1st date was like a hobby to her
literally soulless
Jesus Christ I hate women so much it's unreal
I can talk to girls from my class or any of my friends just fine but when it comes to anything beyond being platonic it makes me shit bricks.
You can make it.
I lost my virginity at 25 to my now girlfriend who I met through school.
Since then I started socialising more and have a few female friends to keep my gf on edge and not take me for granted.
My problem was never being in situations where there are females. All the jobs I had, the classes I took and the hobbies I persued never included any woman. The moment I changed that everything started working out.
Just put yourself in different surroundings, it's that easy
>wife hasn't mired me in a while
>think she isn't attracted to me or something
>the other night she was sad and told me to come give her a hug
>at first just presses herself into my chest and holds my back, but her hands start wandering and tracing, testing and squeezing
>"I love your big chest.... and your big arms"
I guess she is just distracted with work. Felt really good. Also I had nowhere else to post this because jannies keep nuking mire threads.
Bruh she may cheat on you
Tracking apps put her in the clear. Also she tends to just go to work then come home and repeat.
>virgin at 20
I lost my virginity at 11! Wtf you're doing!?
For some it's piss easy, for others it's a Herculean feat. If you're relatively normal, relatively well adjusted, good job, many friends, enjoy life, look up to the future etc., then GFs suddenly appear.
These things come naturally to these guys: the demotivational pic with the football player and the cheerleader is pretty accurate.
I'm a 29 year old kissless virgin. I'm in decent shape, get a lot of compliments from men but also from girls who are in a relationship. But girls who are not in a relationship hate me for some reason. They never even look at me. My female coworkers don't even say hello to me unless i say it first. I grew tired of it so i stopped greeting them, now i don't talk to them at all even if we spend hours in the same room. I don't care anymore at this point. If girls hate me, it just means i can spend more time at the gym. It's a win-win.
They probably don't hate you. Women without a bf feel vulnerable.women don't even leave the house, or do any activity by themselves.
Hello young buck, getting a girlfriend is piss easy. The hard part is realizing, after burning yourself through several women, that they're all vapid c**ts and not worth your time and effort. The best advice I can give you is to not get emotional or attached to any woman, if you ignore this you'll just hurt yourself.
so, what's the point of getting a gf if they are all vapid c**ts ?
Sex ? What's the point of women besides sex ? Raw fricking, filling her up with your seed and having her bear your sons. That's all women are for. /thread
how many sons do you have anon ?