ive never gotten this unless its a meme. always seemed kind of homosexualy to care how other dudes lift. out of all the stupid shit to hate, how someone else builds muscle is one if the least
>powershitters >building muscle
Choose one. The funniest part of this is that the favorite powershitter cope is that they "don't even care" about building muscle, they just want strength.
>always seemed kind of homosexualy to care how other dudes lift. out of all the stupid shit to hate, how someone else builds muscle is one if the least
nta, but these people have put out tons of bad information that has led n00bs astray, like >volume is just pump work that only builds muscle if you're on steroids >getting stronger makes you bigger >isolations are unnecessary
ive never gotten how homosexuals like you get so affected over a post that you dont like you have to screech lol. Who cares what another dude doesnt like? sorry you are such a sensitive little homosexual maybe try a hugbox you wont find one here fatass 🙂
the main issue with powerlifting is that they avoid hypertrophy
strength without size is a peaked gimmick, more muscle mass = more strength in base phase, and a higher peaked potential
there's a big difference between a peaked 170lb lifter only being able to bench 315 after months of prep, and a buff 220lb lifter being able to bench 315 for reps any day of the weak >oh but you're 50lbs bigger, of course you're stronger!
that's the exact point, muscle mass generates force, frick peaked gimmick lifts, get big and develop real strength
Is it even possible for a natty to get strong without getting fat?
powerlifting is dogshit gay homosexual garbage when the lifter focuses solely on strength/peaking training, but bulks as if they're training for hypertrophy
powerlifters who eat semi-resonsibly and devote a significant portion of their training to building muscle mass are the ultimate chsds of the gym
nothing will turn more eyes than seeing some grizzly ape strict pressing 275+ for reps at a public gym, absolutely nothing
meanwhile there's nothing more pathetic than some obese lifetime intermediate lifter who's been spinning his wheels for the last 4 years making zero gains because he maxed out his strength potential for his size and refuses to actually build more muscle so he can continue to improve
powerlidting is feast or famine, they're either legendary lifter gigachads, or they're disgusting fat shameful abominations
bodybuiling is best overall, if the main priority of your training is to build muscle while staying relatively lean, you'll only see positive results no matter who you are or what you do
in powerlifting, it's easy to get addicted to the quick strength gains you make from just a few months of peaking, and if you never switch up, you become another pathetic powersharter
But /misc/ told me that the only way to get fit is by going to the gym, eating a keto diet, permabulk, never do cardio or train legs and take steroids.
Plus eating raw meat, like basedking
Everything that oppose this, is pozzed cia NAFOisraelite psyop
>But /misc/ told me
No/misc/ doesn't even lift >Everything that oppose this, is pozzed cia NAFOisraelite psyop
Nice way to say you are a israeli nafo troon
Within limits. Once younreached those limits, in strength AND leanness (yes I am implying youre not there, in either sense) you can coax some additional strength out of your body by trading in your single digit BF.
You're not supposed to be so lazy that you get the shitty returns as the guy in your pic, but yeah. It depends on what you define as strong I guess, but I would literally never achieve a 5pl8 deadlift without eating myself fat and then cutting after. Not possible, I tried and spun my wheels for years before accepting that I had to eat more.
Yes. Having some extra belly fat isn’t necessarily going to help your big lifts. How does having 200lbs extra belly fat help bench press, or squat? Needing to be fat to lift heavy is a power lifter meme.
Ok. I used to also be a firm believer in “mass moves mass,” then I cut 10% of my body weight and my lift numbers didn’t suffer that much, probably because there’s no reason that carrying extra belly fat equals better lifts when it comes to stuff like BP, OHP, etc. Dirty bulking mostly seems like an excuse to be lazy when it comes to diet.
Being in a higher weight class doesn’t necessarily mean you’re fatter than people in lower weight classes. Also putting your weight on another person isn’t the same concept as lifting a weight.
Can someone explain how that pic related isn't a clear sign of mental illness?
He's deliberately going from overweight to morbidly obese, just so he can lift heavier weight, and even then, only in the context of a handful of lifts/movements with limited carry-over.
Yes, but people severly underestimate how long time building muscle takes. And when people make gains and get fat, they would've made the same gains by only being in a 300 kcal/day surplus. It's not that they got fat, it's that they were in a steady surplus for a longer period of time.
A lot of people fall for the "eat big to get big" roider gigabulk mantra without understanding only so much of that energy is going to be converted into muscle as a natural.
A 200lb (not saying you need to weigh 200lbs it's just an even number) natty hitting >2/3/5/6 (one competition legal rep, that means the press is 100% strict, the bench is paused, the squat goes below parallel, the DL isn't hitched etc) >20 pull ups
is what I would consider to be strong. This is for an amateur who takes lifting seriously as a hobby. For any other bodyweight you can just do the math and adjust the lifts accordingly (except for the pull ups of course, that's 20 regardless of weight). If you're a roidtroon who roidied purely for strength you should be competing on at least a national level because if not why the frick would you do that?
Yes a natty can gain strength while been lean, it just takes fricking time! Pro tip: the internet is a cesspit of liars. Just because everyone online says they hit 2pl8 bench and 4pl8 squat in a year it does not make it true - and anyone who genuinely accomplished those feats knows how significant they are and can spot the bullshitters
Be realistic in your goals, don't be expecting to be pushing advanced numbers when you haven't even been doing this shit for long. And don't expect to be looking like fricking thor after just 2 years of lifting either. You'll seriously set yourself up to fail, feel like you're not as strong as you should be and then feel like you need to bulk hard, then you'll just get fat (and yes mass moves mass, been fat will make you stronger but is that really what you want)
Rome wasn't built in a day brah just stick to your program, keep progressively overloading and trust the process and you'll soon be strong and built
Exactly but morons are paranoid they are gaining muscle 10% slower so they balloon into slobs like this and then most of them never get lean again. I'd rather gain muscle slightly slower and be aesthetic and healthy all the time. People are just undisciplined and impatient.
It's a right of passage. You have to fall for the bulking meme to realise how grotesque youve actually become so you can cut and only then start the path to aesthetics and making it
>lmao wtf how weak are these redditors
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The guy in pic related is not just a redditor, but a communist as well.
I think it happens as a result of getting into strength training relatively late, as in mid to late 20s after spending the younger years being a human blob playing vidya and eating garbage. I’ve known a couple guys like this. Gains come incredibly difficult to the two of them, and they’ve never quite shaken off their physical awkwardness in terms of their movements.
Is this the worst PR improvement compared to weight gain in Olympic lifting history?
Adding 2 plate is something I did withing a few months while only gaining maybe 20/30lbs of fat
I don't understand how people can get so fat while training for strength. Protein builds muscle, not fat. Muscle moves weight, not fat. Quit getting so fricking fat you Black person.
Depends on what you consider strong. But I can do 3pl8 diddies for reps @ 150lbs, so you certainly don't need to bloatmaxx to hit 1/2/3/4, probably even 2/3/4/5 if you're a bigger guy
Yes you moron. Try setting foot in a gym before posting here
I hate powersharters so much
ive never gotten this unless its a meme. always seemed kind of homosexualy to care how other dudes lift. out of all the stupid shit to hate, how someone else builds muscle is one if the least
>powershitters
>building muscle
Choose one. The funniest part of this is that the favorite powershitter cope is that they "don't even care" about building muscle, they just want strength.
>always seemed kind of homosexualy to care how other dudes lift. out of all the stupid shit to hate, how someone else builds muscle is one if the least
nta, but these people have put out tons of bad information that has led n00bs astray, like
>volume is just pump work that only builds muscle if you're on steroids
>getting stronger makes you bigger
>isolations are unnecessary
ive never gotten how homosexuals like you get so affected over a post that you dont like you have to screech lol. Who cares what another dude doesnt like? sorry you are such a sensitive little homosexual maybe try a hugbox you wont find one here fatass 🙂
Seething resentment palpable
lose weight. best wishes..
the main issue with powerlifting is that they avoid hypertrophy
strength without size is a peaked gimmick, more muscle mass = more strength in base phase, and a higher peaked potential
there's a big difference between a peaked 170lb lifter only being able to bench 315 after months of prep, and a buff 220lb lifter being able to bench 315 for reps any day of the weak
>oh but you're 50lbs bigger, of course you're stronger!
that's the exact point, muscle mass generates force, frick peaked gimmick lifts, get big and develop real strength
same
I love how they always round out their shitty, obese physiques with trashy tats.
I go to the same gym as the guy on the bottom right. He's extremely strong and probably the friendliest guy you would ever meet.
Not sure how I made this mistake, but I meant bottom left. Polite sage.
powerlifting is dogshit gay homosexual garbage when the lifter focuses solely on strength/peaking training, but bulks as if they're training for hypertrophy
powerlifters who eat semi-resonsibly and devote a significant portion of their training to building muscle mass are the ultimate chsds of the gym
nothing will turn more eyes than seeing some grizzly ape strict pressing 275+ for reps at a public gym, absolutely nothing
meanwhile there's nothing more pathetic than some obese lifetime intermediate lifter who's been spinning his wheels for the last 4 years making zero gains because he maxed out his strength potential for his size and refuses to actually build more muscle so he can continue to improve
powerlidting is feast or famine, they're either legendary lifter gigachads, or they're disgusting fat shameful abominations
bodybuiling is best overall, if the main priority of your training is to build muscle while staying relatively lean, you'll only see positive results no matter who you are or what you do
in powerlifting, it's easy to get addicted to the quick strength gains you make from just a few months of peaking, and if you never switch up, you become another pathetic powersharter
But /misc/ told me that the only way to get fit is by going to the gym, eating a keto diet, permabulk, never do cardio or train legs and take steroids.
Plus eating raw meat, like basedking
Everything that oppose this, is pozzed cia NAFOisraelite psyop
>Everything that oppose this, is pozzed cia NAFOisraelite psyop
Yes
>But /misc/ told me
No/misc/ doesn't even lift
>Everything that oppose this, is pozzed cia NAFOisraelite psyop
Nice way to say you are a israeli nafo troon
imagine bloating yourself so moronicly for a lmao3pl8 deadlift
yeah what, I diddled 350 at 150lbs
Within limits. Once younreached those limits, in strength AND leanness (yes I am implying youre not there, in either sense) you can coax some additional strength out of your body by trading in your single digit BF.
You're not supposed to be so lazy that you get the shitty returns as the guy in your pic, but yeah. It depends on what you define as strong I guess, but I would literally never achieve a 5pl8 deadlift without eating myself fat and then cutting after. Not possible, I tried and spun my wheels for years before accepting that I had to eat more.
Imagine using straps and a belt to hit a few plates more.. I’m glad I hit my 200kg PR without any of it.
Yes. Having some extra belly fat isn’t necessarily going to help your big lifts. How does having 200lbs extra belly fat help bench press, or squat? Needing to be fat to lift heavy is a power lifter meme.
20lbs*
Mass moves mass phaget
Which is why nobody skinnier than the guy in OP’s pic has ever deadlifted 3pl8. Lol.
Im not saying op’s pic is an accomplishment. Just addressing your question. If you don’t want it answered dont ask.
Ok. I used to also be a firm believer in “mass moves mass,” then I cut 10% of my body weight and my lift numbers didn’t suffer that much, probably because there’s no reason that carrying extra belly fat equals better lifts when it comes to stuff like BP, OHP, etc. Dirty bulking mostly seems like an excuse to be lazy when it comes to diet.
I don’t disagree
Yes, I can deadlift 550lbs and I am 185lbs @ 5'8.5"
Yes, that's why weight classes exist.
/thread
Being in a higher weight class doesn’t necessarily mean you’re fatter than people in lower weight classes. Also putting your weight on another person isn’t the same concept as lifting a weight.
True, but a good portion of IST assumes everyone that likes strength training is a super heavyweight. This is just a moronic bait thread anyways.
What a dumbass, he did not need to gain that much weight to lift 315. I was like 160 when I first did 225 and was like 170 when the did 315.
impressive.
nah i'm joking, i was 165 when i did 440
Can someone explain how that pic related isn't a clear sign of mental illness?
He's deliberately going from overweight to morbidly obese, just so he can lift heavier weight, and even then, only in the context of a handful of lifts/movements with limited carry-over.
Yes, but people severly underestimate how long time building muscle takes. And when people make gains and get fat, they would've made the same gains by only being in a 300 kcal/day surplus. It's not that they got fat, it's that they were in a steady surplus for a longer period of time.
A lot of people fall for the "eat big to get big" roider gigabulk mantra without understanding only so much of that energy is going to be converted into muscle as a natural.
What do you consider strong?
Bodyweight and weight ratio should be taken into consideration.
>What do you consider strong?
2/3/4/5 and above
So a 5'8", 350lbs guy lifting 2/3/4/5 is strong?
A 200lb (not saying you need to weigh 200lbs it's just an even number) natty hitting
>2/3/5/6 (one competition legal rep, that means the press is 100% strict, the bench is paused, the squat goes below parallel, the DL isn't hitched etc)
>20 pull ups
is what I would consider to be strong. This is for an amateur who takes lifting seriously as a hobby. For any other bodyweight you can just do the math and adjust the lifts accordingly (except for the pull ups of course, that's 20 regardless of weight). If you're a roidtroon who roidied purely for strength you should be competing on at least a national level because if not why the frick would you do that?
lmao I can pull 345 and I‘m a 165lb lanklet. this is just embarrassing.
wtf is he even doing? he got so fat he’s gonna have a heart attack.
>bloatmaxxing for 3pl8 deadlift
Just why
Yes a natty can gain strength while been lean, it just takes fricking time! Pro tip: the internet is a cesspit of liars. Just because everyone online says they hit 2pl8 bench and 4pl8 squat in a year it does not make it true - and anyone who genuinely accomplished those feats knows how significant they are and can spot the bullshitters
Be realistic in your goals, don't be expecting to be pushing advanced numbers when you haven't even been doing this shit for long. And don't expect to be looking like fricking thor after just 2 years of lifting either. You'll seriously set yourself up to fail, feel like you're not as strong as you should be and then feel like you need to bulk hard, then you'll just get fat (and yes mass moves mass, been fat will make you stronger but is that really what you want)
Rome wasn't built in a day brah just stick to your program, keep progressively overloading and trust the process and you'll soon be strong and built
>Steroid user
>Gay
>Small pp
You're defeating your own purpose
Exactly but morons are paranoid they are gaining muscle 10% slower so they balloon into slobs like this and then most of them never get lean again. I'd rather gain muscle slightly slower and be aesthetic and healthy all the time. People are just undisciplined and impatient.
>Just why
It's a right of passage. You have to fall for the bulking meme to realise how grotesque youve actually become so you can cut and only then start the path to aesthetics and making it
>getting fat for a 3 plate deadlift
lmao wtf how weak are these redditors
>lmao wtf how weak are these redditors
The guy in pic related is not just a redditor, but a communist as well.
I think it happens as a result of getting into strength training relatively late, as in mid to late 20s after spending the younger years being a human blob playing vidya and eating garbage. I’ve known a couple guys like this. Gains come incredibly difficult to the two of them, and they’ve never quite shaken off their physical awkwardness in terms of their movements.
Lmao I literally pulled 425 last friday at 150lb bw. Some people just won't make it
Didn't read just saw pic. Not worth it. Want me to read? Post a pepe frog.
Is this the worst PR improvement compared to weight gain in Olympic lifting history?
Adding 2 plate is something I did withing a few months while only gaining maybe 20/30lbs of fat
Yes obviously dumbass
Yes just don't go above 19% bf. You won't be shredded, but you will gain muscle just as fast as someone getting super fat.
You don't need to get fat for a 140kg deadlift
big (strong)
lean
natty
pick two
>not doing cardio
haha stay fat, fatty fat fat-fats
I don't understand how people can get so fat while training for strength. Protein builds muscle, not fat. Muscle moves weight, not fat. Quit getting so fricking fat you Black person.
>weighing 250lbs to pull 315
powerlifting denounces him.
>powerlifting denounces him.
He's a Starting Strength coach (or at least he took the courses)
So I mean really he added like 180 pounds to his deadlift because he has to lift his own fat fricking body up.
yeah. how many fricking times are you going to make this thread
im 5'-10", 170lbs and dl 315 for reps. you dont have to be fat to get strong
This image blows my mind
I deadlifted 180kg at 65kg after 8 months of training
Yes, with a little time. This guy achieved nothing.
Wait, correction: He worsened everything.
Depends on what you consider strong. But I can do 3pl8 diddies for reps @ 150lbs, so you certainly don't need to bloatmaxx to hit 1/2/3/4, probably even 2/3/4/5 if you're a bigger guy