Even if they don’t ask for it?
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Is it okay to help someone who is lifting with bad form?
Even if they don’t ask for it?
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nah, just let them snap their shit
Fpbp. Giving unsolicited advice is a waste of time.
Honestly.
Myself i needed to snap my shit to understand and i did, snap and understand that is.
Same here and when I tried to save others they chose to learn the hard way too. The circle of life....
Never
This. Not only a waste of time, but harmful
and deny them a golden ticket to snap city? i dont think so.
The proper form is to turn away so you don't have to view their cringe.
I saw this indian dude swinging dumbells around and turning his chest for momentum that it looked like he wasn't even using his biceps at all at my apartment gym
I don't say shit unless they look like they are going to seriously injure themselves
>my apartment gym
you have indians in your building. lol.
fail.
Ikr. Luckily I don't live there anymore
To be fair it's dey culture.
https://youtube.com/shorts/hPclNGOcbeQ
Kek, the state of that movement. Looks good for maybe wrist strength, but also probably grinding parts of your shoulder to dust? Hilarious-looking, whatever the case.
Like this?
The grace! The elegance!
>the shit smear on his leg
kino
>shit smear on his leg
>huge piles of dirt on the floor especially in the corner
>bloated bacteria belly
>moronic form
i hate Canadians so much it's unreal
If they are obviously a beginner, yes. If they are some moronic bro just let them frick their shit up
Only if it's such bad form that they're going to get hurt, otherwise if its a slight improvement I would stay quiet unless they ask.
You can get morons that give advice when they have a bad understanding of the exercise.
Some guy came up to me a couple months back and said I am doing my leg presses wrong and need to fully lock out my knees to get a full rep. I'm good, I've seen the video of the guy snapping his leg while "The Sponge" blasts in the background
Yeah, I've had more cases of morons/boomers/DYELs giving me unsolicited bad advice than me trying to help anyone else. I was OHPing and properly bracing my lower back by holding my breath during the rep and rebreathing only at the bottom. Some homosexual boomer on a bench press with less weight than I was OHPing came up to me and told me I was going to pass out and hurt myself.
I hate people.
People keep coming up to me and asking for form advice or how to do a lift.
Sure, why not? The gym police aren't coming for you.
Unless you're black.
Black people make up 13% of gym goers but are responsible for over 50% of untracked weights.
idk where I'm from every gym has instructors that handle that
it's never okay to interrupt and stop someone's pace unless they ask to be interrupted and stop their pace unless you happen to be some sort of first personal trainer first responder
What if they're literally about to kill themself with bad form?
Just let him kill himself, today everybody has the access to the correct information, if u dont wanna learn then snap urself or die
world is a fuc, don't get involved, you'll only end up liable, and nobody is ever gonna thank you
If they have the self awareness to receive criticism they also have the self awareness to ask.
Let them snap
Why are you asking if it's OK? What sort of mindset is that? If you think it's the right thing to do then you don't have to ask for permission. If they disagree with you that's their problem, and the consequences of their actions will reflect their choice to have a shitty attitude about improvement. Does giving advice result in a positive outcome? That's your answer.
>What sort of mindset is that?
one of someone who isn't a braindead narcissist and considers the possibility that there are factors at play that they haven't considered.
Trying to help other people makes you a narcissist? Are you hearing yourself? If there are factors at play that you aren't aware of then you aren't going to learn about them by not interacting with that person. When someone gives you advice, you can tell that person that you're aware of what they're telling you and then inform them of whatever factors they might be missing, no hard feelings whatsoever in a completely normal interaction like that. Ironically, turning it into a challenge about who knows the most makes you the narcissist after all.
>Trying to help other people makes you a narcissist? Are you hearing yourself?
no, can you read?
not reading the rest, you strike me as a useless person
>no, can you read?
Literally the next sentence
>not reading the rest
Not even one sentence later
>you strike me as a useless person
yeah? i'm not reading the irrelevant babblings of someone who didn't read my post to begin with
How do you know I didn't read it when you didn't read my response? That makes no sense. It's very obvious you've ignored every piece of advice anyone has ever given you because you are a big fricking idiot.
because your first sentence betrays that, whether you read it or not, you have no reading comprehension and are an idiot not worth wasting time on.
You're just an insecure person. If someone doesn't want advice they'll just say no thank you or ignore you, and you'll both be on your day. It's happened to me. Someone gave me bad advice, I told them thank you, but I am aware of what I am doing and thanked him for his concern. That was it. People that throw out the word narcissist usually have veganas, sandy ones at that.
>You're just an insecure person.
because i'm not interested in talking to a random stranger on the internet who entered into the discussion in bad faith?
and why are you blathering on about advice?
oh, because this thread is about giving advice to lifters? how could you possibly think that had anything to do with my original point? this is why i don't wanna fricking talk to you, you've written 4 fricking paragraphs at me without listening to a word i've said and without me giving you any indication of what i think. you're talking at a brick wall just to hear the sound of your own voice, all while coping and seething at me casually using the word narcissist. it wasn't even that deep but jesus fricking christ lmao.
>without listening to a word i've said
kek all you’ve really said is there may be factors at play you don’t know about. which he explicitly addressed. You then spent the next 3 or 5 posts sperging out about nor being listened to. You sound like my sister.
used to back in the university gym but at a commercial gym everyone can die for all I care
I'd say no. It's so fricking easy in this day and age for them to find that information themselves, and they've chosen not to. Either they're a moron who's unlikely to listen, or you're a moron who doesn't recognise the exercise they're actually performing.
I appreciated it. When I first started it was really cool to learn proper form from somebody who's been doing it longer then me, it's always a cool way to make gym culture not so fricking toxic. We're all here to improve together, advice isn't a better thing, it's just us learning from each other.
I would if they were white. I believe intracial (not inter) altruism is nessisary.
Yes but be nice to them and don't interrupt them mid-set. Don't give advice if you are smaller than them.
When I used to go to a commercial gym a lot of bodybuilders and other roidmonsters were nice and gave me unprompted advice in the first year.
Honestly? No. The absolute exception would be someone that is deadlifting over his 1RM with rounded back and legitimately having an absurdly high chance of becoming paralyzed. In pretty much every other situation, do not give unsolicited advice.
And the thing is even if you think you know better, the chances are that you probably don't. Im so fricking sick of dyel morons giving advice when they are wrong. Everybody has their own ideal form, its just human anatomy. Femur length matters a great deal in how someone squats, or having long arms impacts your deadlift. Or someone who is recovering from a shoulder injury will have his own way of doing bench press pain free etc. Maybe he wants to use closer grip for more tricep focus, or wider grip because he has big arch and wants to powerlift. Maybe the way he holds the bar he prefers having wrists more open or closed and so on.
You can give general barebones advice for someone who is literally moronic and it happens but more often than not the unsolicited advice is actually unhelpful. Im honestly sick of form polices who have no gains whatsoever and they watched some scientifically optimal training video on youtube and now larp as expert personal trainers in the gym. More often than not people have a reason for why they are doing whatever they are doing or they learn the best from their own mistakes. Do not give unsolicited advice.
Leave people alone tf
Nah not my problem. Frick em
THE GOLDEN RULE:
If it's a zoomer I help them, they're young and dumb and don't deserve to snap their shit early on.
If it's a boomer then ripbozo, I might even sprinkle some bad advice on purpose. It's only just after they drove the whole planet to shit. Every time one of them asks you for help, remember housing prices and do your duty.
>lust provoking image for attention to draw more members to my movement
Depends if you like them. If it's some random dude leave them alone unless they ask
never unless they ask for my advice, its not in human nature to be confronted and told your way of life is wrong and to take that in a positive aspect. people hurting themselves in the gym is my in-between set entertainment