Lol, it's not like I was asking them how I should look. It started with me talking about the ideal physique for women because one of them was complaining about her body and asked my opinion
What is up with jerseys in all sports being so shitty?
Either you're a walking advertisement in soccer or a cuck with another guy's name on your back in just about every other sport.
Not really. A footballer (or any pro athlete) has an athletic and fit body as a result of training to be better at their sport every day. It’s a byproduct of their job whereas someone who just lifts is likely doing it to improve their appearance.
That makes sense. Footballers' bodies are basically built for endurance while still having good power. They'd probably be monsters in bed for that reason.
Not really. A footballer (or any pro athlete) has an athletic and fit body as a result of training to be better at their sport every day. It’s a byproduct of their job whereas someone who just lifts is likely doing it to improve their appearance.
professional soccer players go the gym at least 3 times a week morons
It's true. Women want you to be in peak physical shape without ever stepping foot in the gym. Start doing yard work and look at how girls mire you for digging with a shovel or chopping up a stump. Those same girls will cringe when you tell them you have a 2pl8 bench.
My own gf would videotape me while I was landscaping, but whenever I tell her my new PR she just says congrats and that's the conversation
>Women are more interested in functional strength in their men rather than worrying over aesthetics
Yes. Worrying over aesthetics to the degree that gymcels do is womanly.
You're a moron and it shows. >Women want you to be in peak physical shape without ever stepping foot in the gym
Women also want you to be a criminal bad boy that's also a nice person, they also want you to open up but also be strong and silent, and they also want you to work a high paying job but also be home all the time to give her attention and mow the lawn. Women are fricking moronic and have a very poor grasp of causality.
They also have zero fricking grasp of male physiology, and have no clue that men don't just grow 6 packs by sitting on the couch and playing video games. Therefore they think that going to the gym is tryharding. >the rest of that cope
If women cared about tradies, they'd be drooling over plumbers, farmers and mechanics, not over roided actors who have 5 personal trainers dictate their every move.
When a woman is telling you how much she loves "hard working men who know their way around tools", what she's actually doing is trying to con you into fixing her shit for free.
>If women cared about tradies, they'd be drooling over plumbers, farmers and mechanics
They are... maybe not plumbers but farmboys and mechanics are pretty common in female fantasies.
It's a little infuriating to me tbqh. I grew up thinking that women liked men who wore suits and ties, right? Now that I'm finally working a job where it's appropriate to wear business casual (and formal for meetings) I finally discovered that women "want" a mechanic.
>Women want you to be in peak physical shape without ever stepping foot in the gym
They don't give a frick how much sacrifice a man has to made to achieve certain things hence why they're moronic. In a society where honesty is not appreciated you got to lie to them hoes:
>anon you look so jacked do you go to the gym
No I just look like this I don't touch barbells
>anon your face looks clear whats your skincare routine
Skincare routine? What's that? I don't do them lol
>anon you're so talented in X
Haha I'm just a casual in this I don't practice X
>wow anon you're so intelligent
Nah man haha I just know them coincidentally
Only autists will answer them truthfully and enthusiastically. Only men who asks you these questions in a super genuine way deserves an honest response. Otherwise: lie, lie, and lie.
This anon is absolutely correct. Women are moronic. They want you to look good, but hearing about men putting in effort for the appearance turns them off. They don't want to hear about how hard you try to get her attention, because that's a very feminine thing to do. You have to put in the effort but pretend it's all effortless.
Pay attention to this post anons. You basically HAVE to lie at this point. If you have a great body women will unironically think less of you if you tell them how you actually got it’s. Hell most anons on this fricking board of all places- where essentially anything can be said and there’s no reason to be in denial about gear use- will absolutely refuse to believe brad Pitt used steroids for his best physiques
This. The blue collar body only last while you are a 20 year old who has no body fat. Once they turn 25 after all the drinking and eating shitty foods they fat strong looking but the fat is a disgusting beer belly.
yes. i know a couple.
more often beer belly or rail thin with super defined forearms ahoulders and upper back as noone lifts anything with form due to the clusterfrick which is bulky but not heavy things. Every time i lift a pallet it makes me want to die doing proper form cos you cant get the leverage right. >t. warehouseBlack person
Women don't even know what they like or what it takes to look any sort of way. Most guys who do manual labor look like shit unless you only love thick forearms.
It's interesting how you can take a whatever worthless dumb statement no one would usually care about, but if you put it in the form of a twitter screencap suddenly it seems important so much that you must reply to it and argue about it.
As if putting anything in twitter screencap form suddenly gives it legitimacy.
This woman has never seen a laborer. I work physical labor and everyone is either fat or rail thin. Labor doesn't make anyone look good.
Man, imagine being so privileged in life that you don't understand physical labor. What a thought, unironically.
Was about to say just this. I work construction and most people are either fat or have a normal to slightly muscular build. But none of them look what normal people would say looks "muscular" in a shirt. Physical labor won't build much muscle in 95% of people. The body adapts to it by optimizing your organism to basically do moderate cardio for 8 hours a day. You also get slightly "stronger than you look" but not by that much. The key is about how durable you become. Before construction I worked in farms. What amazed me about these people was not so much their strength but their ability to just keep going without getting tired. Physically though they don't look much different than your skinnyfat average joe down the street that works an office job filling excel sheets all day. That b***h is full of shit and is just throwing some random argument that will make her look agreeable to other people.
This.
Former carpenter. The strength and adaptation is very task specific. At the time I was a 5'10" 168lb skinny fat, and used to have people gawping in disbelief when they saw me standing on tip-toes hammering 4" cut nails into solid concrete block walls all day. (Couldn't do it now even though I'm in much better shape)
Plus most people in the job eat like shit, and swill down booze most nights. Not to mention the weed and marching powder..
Honest question. If a dude ate a really clean bodybuilding diet, how how they end up looking as a construction worker? From what I understand, laborers eat like garbage so surely a better diet would yield at least a decent physique given to physical activity levels
part of the reason people eat like shit is that you end up needing a shitton more kcal than other people due to as another anon said, doing moderate cardio for 8-12 hrs a day up to 7 days a week.
This means you're a)spending much more money on chicken and most importantly youre b) tired all the time. The CNS never gets time to recover properly. So a lot of people end up both eating a shitton to fulfill their TDEEs and a lot of that is prepackaged slop because they have no dopamine because they never get satisfying sleep because shit hurts too much to sleep properly.
I can feel this shit happen to me and I'm desperate to get out now. All my sleep is broken up because i wake up hurting.
This user is probably 500lb and is moronic. She looks at dudes and goes "oh I like his body, that's clearly from physical labor". "Oh I don't like his, that must be a gym body". Confirmation bias. She's too moronic to understand.
>tfw 132lbs ottermode climbcel who benches 140lbs >tfw wristlet so have thin bones, long arms and legs, but lean proportions and pecs that look big on my frame >girls tell me without fail how good I look without a shirt on >more often than not am able to woo and eventually frick girls at parties/ festivals that guys bigger than myself are also trying to talk to >have a boyish face with good cheekbones which really helps
being a straight twink is a very good niche. thank god I'm not sub 5'8" though or it'd be so over
if there are seething replies to this post calling it a larp know that it comes from people who got cucked by some other pretty boy in their life
>Y-y-you guys think I'm larping huh?
I literally just don't care about your little story. If you and your entire family died tonight then my life wouldn't change in the slightest.
This is actually true. There is a difference between an athletic body and a gym rat. Doesn't mean the gym rat doesn't have a good body , it just means you can tell
OH GOD, STOP EVERYTHING GUYS, JUST CANCELLED MY GYM MEMBERSHIP, THE TROON ON TWITTER DOESN'T LIKE FIT GUYS, OH GOD I WILL SWITCH MY ENTIRE LIFE ON A DIME FOR THIS TROON
Reminder that when choosing the ideal male physique women chose the body of a professional trainer from the biggest loser (faces were removed) because it looked “naturally athletic”. Ie they thought he looked like that because he played basketball on the weekend or whatever and had good genes when in fact his entire life is based around working out. So anons who aren’t baiting and don’t know remember that women think an average gym rat body is jay cutler and a professional trainer body comes from being a weekend warrior
Secondary reminder that women’s own bodies/looks significantly impact what kind of physiques they are attracted to (or at least say they are attracted to). It’s been consistently found that women who have good bodies themselves desire a more muscular and lean physique in a male partner whereas fat women say they do not, possibly because they instinctively know such a partner would probably leave them
Can confirm. Women who say they rather like """dad bods""" are fat themselves or are at most naturally attractive, which means to a female not being overweight and not looking like train wreck.
It's like the divorced bald fat dude talking about how he prefers "curvy" women. His opinion doesn't matter.
But the hotter women, mainly those who work out, do prefer a muscular man. That being said, they prefer a naturally muscular guy, which means peak natty or 1ml test a week. Also, a sub 12%bf will make any women drool, much more than a muscle bound, but chubby guy (personal experience from bulking and cutting).
Reminder that when choosing the ideal male physique women chose the body of a professional trainer from the biggest loser (faces were removed) because it looked “naturally athletic”. Ie they thought he looked like that because he played basketball on the weekend or whatever and had good genes when in fact his entire life is based around working out. So anons who aren’t baiting and don’t know remember that women think an average gym rat body is jay cutler and a professional trainer body comes from being a weekend warrior
Lmao this is exactly my point. Most of this board is no different really. The guy is literally a professional. His life revolves around being in shape. He is possibly natty so it’s not as impressive as a lot of what you see on the internet, but 1% of guys will look like that in that lighting. Yet people think it’s easily achievable and common.
https://i.imgur.com/ddakZy3.png
Is it over for gymcels?
So don’t fall for this moronic meme for a second anons. Most guys can work their asses off and still have a physique that’s below what women consider naturally athletic or the body of a guy who works in construction or some other equally clueless idea
You honestly believe that achieving this can only be done by working on it full time? I'm sorry dude but you must have shit genetics. Go to literally any martial arts school in your home town and half the guys there will look like this. Also this photo has obviously been shopped, they Photoshop every publicity photo ever
IST is and has always been mostly a powersharter board. people here literally cannot grasp that a person can have visible abs, even if its just 2-pack or 4-pack. and i mean it makes sense because everyone''s advice is always to bulk so they literally cannot even imagine it being possible to achieve and maintain a normal athletic body.
>men have to have great salaries, be emotional available, intelligent, have a career I can gloat about, be handsome….. >oh and they need to have a physique gained from doing blue collar menial labor
Kek women.
But she has a point however who the frick cares? I’m a 21st century man and unfortunately that means I’m pulling in $120k but with my brain not body. So I lift during my lunch hour to stay fit and healthy. It’s the best I can do and I don’t feel bad about it at all.
some guys will look like intermediate lifters even though they don't lift, it's just genetics, which is the main thing women filter men by. women don't find muscles by themselves attractive, they find the man's frame attractive and the muscles are just icing on the cake. they find the frame attractive because the whole reason they feel attraction in the first place is to reproduce, and for that they want only the best genetics to pass onto the next generation. bigger frame/height = stronger man, to protect the woman and her children.
I notice there haven't been any examples posted here. I doubt the person who posted the tweet has any pictures either. Farmers must be the closest thing, but they do use a lot of machinery.
First Worlders, ie whites usually have extreme sleeper builds if working a physical jobs, they basically look like twinks or fat-ish and can lift as much as 2-5 non-whites all fricking day. But as already said, few Whites are working pyhsicla jobs nowadays. I have seen some old, dyel construciton worker easily lift and carry bags of cement that 2 muscular black guys could barely move though. That was some TV show where they put German contrsuction workers onto a African construction site and vice versa. There was also another case where some German basedboy reporter did some non seriosu sparring against a Senegalese wrestling champ and pretty much could completely stop and block the black guy just by using strength, no wrestlign technique. The black guy then got so mad he started using dangerous techniques and almost hurt the reporter.
But anyway, white people have invisible strength, you better believe it.
Women have no idea how much time and effort it takes to get a great body, not to mention the cost to buy high quality ingredients, protein etc, all the equipment you buy.
But women are also super concerned about looking shallow so they'll never admit they want Chad but every single study and metric shows they want the gym body but they'll never admit to it openly
I mentioned this the other day as well
ideal male body is a bit more athletic and aesthetic than this
less and you need to rely on other skills, more and you need to overcome low iq beefhead accusations
yeah
its all you need to have a good body, lifting 2-3 times and having an ounce of moderation and common sense when it comes to what you consume
how you present yourself and if you can carry this body around while having your life together at the same time matter more
>the result of several years in the gym
Time spent lifting doesn't really come into it, some form of training should be part of your baseline lifestyle anyway
I have eschewed hard labour jobs to give more opportunity for women to work in those fields while I lift and nap during the day when it's quiet. It's a sacrifice, but it's only fair to do this.
>obscure anime profile pic only a always online troony would know about. >Brainlet take from sperg youtuber like goatis a always online troony would know about.
I just want the government to know I can rape women and therefore they must dedicate resources to watching me oscillate from home to gym to home instead of using their resources to battle anti-semites, which I am.
Anyone remember that pic of a fat girl wanting a real man who works on a farm with someone responding, "Someone who works with pigs all day doesn't want to come home to one"?
You homosexuals are all so pathetic. Take a step back and evaluate why the frick youre all having a mongoloid level debate about what women think. Im lifting because i want to be fricking huge and bench 4 pl8. Its either for yourself or for failure.
For women guys who looks like zyzz get their bodies by playing sports with their friends and working construction while a normal guy who works out a lot will look like pic related. Don’t forget that for a second when women say they hate muscles
This is kinda true in that most people only train their "beach muscles". I still think it looks good. Oh no, your hobby is lifting weights as opposed to, idk, playing with a ball in a grass field like a fricking toddler lol
Pic related is her at 19 as a single mother. Mind you she’s pushing 30 now and the husband is taking care of another man’s child while she stays at home jobless. This is who IST made a 150 reply count thread about
I was talking to these hot girls about the ideal physique for men and they all agreed footballers (soccer players) have the most attractive bodies.
What if I don't care? And why should I?
Then consider yourself lucky and enjoy your life. It's better if you don't care.
Do you really not care, like women never occupy your mind? I have a hard time believing this is true
No I don't, foids don't live rent free in my mind, especially their opinions.
>I was talking to these hot girls about the ideal physique for men
You're a fricking cuck
Lol, it's not like I was asking them how I should look. It started with me talking about the ideal physique for women because one of them was complaining about her body and asked my opinion
What a coincidence that they all found the most rich and famous men on the planet to also be the most attractive.
gay homies be like
Im american. No one gives a frick about soccer. Only eurpoors care about soccer
Kek it's literally the opposite, anon. Only America cares about hand-egg. Almost everywhere else in the world they play what you call soccer.
messi is playing soccer now, homosexual
frick you
>Only eurpoors care about soccer
Only mutts don't care about (correct term) Football.
>I'm American
Stopped reading right there.
What is up with jerseys in all sports being so shitty?
Either you're a walking advertisement in soccer or a cuck with another guy's name on your back in just about every other sport.
Can we just all agree that we should play Calcio Storico Fiorentino (the precessor of both) instead?
this is the highest paid footballer in the highest rated and most watched league on the planet
Girls like legs
Let me guess.. You NEED more?
I just wanna say your post made me laugh
"hot" I wonder what your definition of that is/looks like
SIIUUUUUU
Yeah, the ones that lift. Also, they don't typically get to see the footballers physiques anyway, so they're just going by face.
Football or any other sport is exactly the same as going to the gym and lifting. Both are recreational activities, not physical labor.
Not really. A footballer (or any pro athlete) has an athletic and fit body as a result of training to be better at their sport every day. It’s a byproduct of their job whereas someone who just lifts is likely doing it to improve their appearance.
tbh football guy is actually handsome, it would be fair to put him there over that lesbian frog
because they look like money. which they have.
gymrats look like broke c**ts. which they are.
IST wins, IST and IST (lmao they are all wagies in denial) lose.
That makes sense. Footballers' bodies are basically built for endurance while still having good power. They'd probably be monsters in bed for that reason.
You must be at least 18 to post here.
professional soccer players go the gym at least 3 times a week morons
It's true. Women want you to be in peak physical shape without ever stepping foot in the gym. Start doing yard work and look at how girls mire you for digging with a shovel or chopping up a stump. Those same girls will cringe when you tell them you have a 2pl8 bench.
My own gf would videotape me while I was landscaping, but whenever I tell her my new PR she just says congrats and that's the conversation
yeah I don't know why this surprises anyone, it's 100% true
>Women are more interested in functional strength in their men rather than worrying over aesthetics
Yes. Worrying over aesthetics to the degree that gymcels do is womanly.
Functional strength or not I just need a pair of hands to help me with a washing machine.
extra 20kg lift power won't help without reach
You're a moron and it shows.
>Women want you to be in peak physical shape without ever stepping foot in the gym
Women also want you to be a criminal bad boy that's also a nice person, they also want you to open up but also be strong and silent, and they also want you to work a high paying job but also be home all the time to give her attention and mow the lawn. Women are fricking moronic and have a very poor grasp of causality.
They also have zero fricking grasp of male physiology, and have no clue that men don't just grow 6 packs by sitting on the couch and playing video games. Therefore they think that going to the gym is tryharding.
>the rest of that cope
If women cared about tradies, they'd be drooling over plumbers, farmers and mechanics, not over roided actors who have 5 personal trainers dictate their every move.
When a woman is telling you how much she loves "hard working men who know their way around tools", what she's actually doing is trying to con you into fixing her shit for free.
>If women cared about tradies, they'd be drooling over plumbers, farmers and mechanics
They are... maybe not plumbers but farmboys and mechanics are pretty common in female fantasies.
I've asked several women if they prefer blue collar or white collar and the answer is unanimously blue collar.
Yes, and I agree that women don't always know what they want, but this at least gives you an idea of what they fantasize about.
True, I don't think any woman fantasizes about the typical white collar worker. They'll still cheat on their blue collar bfs though, lol.
It's a little infuriating to me tbqh. I grew up thinking that women liked men who wore suits and ties, right? Now that I'm finally working a job where it's appropriate to wear business casual (and formal for meetings) I finally discovered that women "want" a mechanic.
Most realistic anon.
>Women want you to be in peak physical shape without ever stepping foot in the gym
They don't give a frick how much sacrifice a man has to made to achieve certain things hence why they're moronic. In a society where honesty is not appreciated you got to lie to them hoes:
>anon you look so jacked do you go to the gym
No I just look like this I don't touch barbells
>anon your face looks clear whats your skincare routine
Skincare routine? What's that? I don't do them lol
>anon you're so talented in X
Haha I'm just a casual in this I don't practice X
>wow anon you're so intelligent
Nah man haha I just know them coincidentally
Only autists will answer them truthfully and enthusiastically. Only men who asks you these questions in a super genuine way deserves an honest response. Otherwise: lie, lie, and lie.
This anon is absolutely correct. Women are moronic. They want you to look good, but hearing about men putting in effort for the appearance turns them off. They don't want to hear about how hard you try to get her attention, because that's a very feminine thing to do. You have to put in the effort but pretend it's all effortless.
Pay attention to this post anons. You basically HAVE to lie at this point. If you have a great body women will unironically think less of you if you tell them how you actually got it’s. Hell most anons on this fricking board of all places- where essentially anything can be said and there’s no reason to be in denial about gear use- will absolutely refuse to believe brad Pitt used steroids for his best physiques
Speak for yourself. I send pics of myself at the gym to my gf and she seems to like it. You might just be dyel
>she seems to like it
Take a video of you swinging an adeze, or digging with a shovel. Watch the difference in reaction
>anime pfp
>likely a troony
yea sure guess ill stop going to the gym cause one homosexual thinks your muscles will grow differently based on environment
i mean not totally false. gymrat look is like bimbo version of man. go for sandow look
Cool story bro
This. The blue collar body only last while you are a 20 year old who has no body fat. Once they turn 25 after all the drinking and eating shitty foods they fat strong looking but the fat is a disgusting beer belly.
I hear in the uk there are blue collar guys that take steroids and lift. Is that true?
yes. i know a couple.
more often beer belly or rail thin with super defined forearms ahoulders and upper back as noone lifts anything with form due to the clusterfrick which is bulky but not heavy things. Every time i lift a pallet it makes me want to die doing proper form cos you cant get the leverage right.
>t. warehouseBlack person
Women don't even know what they like or what it takes to look any sort of way. Most guys who do manual labor look like shit unless you only love thick forearms.
It's interesting how you can take a whatever worthless dumb statement no one would usually care about, but if you put it in the form of a twitter screencap suddenly it seems important so much that you must reply to it and argue about it.
As if putting anything in twitter screencap form suddenly gives it legitimacy.
Similarly with IST, you see schizo posts here and inevitably someone will nod along like it means something
Useless twitter post
This woman has never seen a laborer. I work physical labor and everyone is either fat or rail thin. Labor doesn't make anyone look good.
Man, imagine being so privileged in life that you don't understand physical labor. What a thought, unironically.
Was about to say just this. I work construction and most people are either fat or have a normal to slightly muscular build. But none of them look what normal people would say looks "muscular" in a shirt. Physical labor won't build much muscle in 95% of people. The body adapts to it by optimizing your organism to basically do moderate cardio for 8 hours a day. You also get slightly "stronger than you look" but not by that much. The key is about how durable you become. Before construction I worked in farms. What amazed me about these people was not so much their strength but their ability to just keep going without getting tired. Physically though they don't look much different than your skinnyfat average joe down the street that works an office job filling excel sheets all day. That b***h is full of shit and is just throwing some random argument that will make her look agreeable to other people.
This.
Former carpenter. The strength and adaptation is very task specific. At the time I was a 5'10" 168lb skinny fat, and used to have people gawping in disbelief when they saw me standing on tip-toes hammering 4" cut nails into solid concrete block walls all day. (Couldn't do it now even though I'm in much better shape)
Plus most people in the job eat like shit, and swill down booze most nights. Not to mention the weed and marching powder..
Honest question. If a dude ate a really clean bodybuilding diet, how how they end up looking as a construction worker? From what I understand, laborers eat like garbage so surely a better diet would yield at least a decent physique given to physical activity levels
I assume it would just make them thinner. It still wouldn't add any significant muscle.
part of the reason people eat like shit is that you end up needing a shitton more kcal than other people due to as another anon said, doing moderate cardio for 8-12 hrs a day up to 7 days a week.
This means you're a)spending much more money on chicken and most importantly youre b) tired all the time. The CNS never gets time to recover properly. So a lot of people end up both eating a shitton to fulfill their TDEEs and a lot of that is prepackaged slop because they have no dopamine because they never get satisfying sleep because shit hurts too much to sleep properly.
I can feel this shit happen to me and I'm desperate to get out now. All my sleep is broken up because i wake up hurting.
You have to keep in mind that her idea of a laborer body probably comes from fireman calendars
a man made this post
90% chance anyone with a tranime pfp is male
Arnie himself made the post
This user is probably 500lb and is moronic. She looks at dudes and goes "oh I like his body, that's clearly from physical labor". "Oh I don't like his, that must be a gym body". Confirmation bias. She's too moronic to understand.
You are moronic if you listen to some anime troony on twitter.
Just look at what attractive women go for IRL, it's never some skinnyfat pip squeek unless he's tall.
> Believing women
>anime avatar
>woman
unlikely
Btw all this dumb c**t is talking about is having high bf% while having muscles. This is the normie understand of lifting.
>tfw 132lbs ottermode climbcel who benches 140lbs
>tfw wristlet so have thin bones, long arms and legs, but lean proportions and pecs that look big on my frame
>girls tell me without fail how good I look without a shirt on
>more often than not am able to woo and eventually frick girls at parties/ festivals that guys bigger than myself are also trying to talk to
>have a boyish face with good cheekbones which really helps
being a straight twink is a very good niche. thank god I'm not sub 5'8" though or it'd be so over
if there are seething replies to this post calling it a larp know that it comes from people who got cucked by some other pretty boy in their life
I bet I could frick you in the ass
>Y-y-you guys think I'm larping huh?
I literally just don't care about your little story. If you and your entire family died tonight then my life wouldn't change in the slightest.
I like women that aren't skinny, guys who like skinny chicks are twisted in the head.
natty gymcels always have underdeveloped forearms tbh
What a dumb b***h. Work in a factory and probably 20-30% workout too, way higher than outside of work
thank you for your opinion user84829272
This is actually true. There is a difference between an athletic body and a gym rat. Doesn't mean the gym rat doesn't have a good body , it just means you can tell
OH GOD, STOP EVERYTHING GUYS, JUST CANCELLED MY GYM MEMBERSHIP, THE TROON ON TWITTER DOESN'T LIKE FIT GUYS, OH GOD I WILL SWITCH MY ENTIRE LIFE ON A DIME FOR THIS TROON
Reminder that when choosing the ideal male physique women chose the body of a professional trainer from the biggest loser (faces were removed) because it looked “naturally athletic”. Ie they thought he looked like that because he played basketball on the weekend or whatever and had good genes when in fact his entire life is based around working out. So anons who aren’t baiting and don’t know remember that women think an average gym rat body is jay cutler and a professional trainer body comes from being a weekend warrior
Secondary reminder that women’s own bodies/looks significantly impact what kind of physiques they are attracted to (or at least say they are attracted to). It’s been consistently found that women who have good bodies themselves desire a more muscular and lean physique in a male partner whereas fat women say they do not, possibly because they instinctively know such a partner would probably leave them
Can confirm. Women who say they rather like """dad bods""" are fat themselves or are at most naturally attractive, which means to a female not being overweight and not looking like train wreck.
It's like the divorced bald fat dude talking about how he prefers "curvy" women. His opinion doesn't matter.
But the hotter women, mainly those who work out, do prefer a muscular man. That being said, they prefer a naturally muscular guy, which means peak natty or 1ml test a week. Also, a sub 12%bf will make any women drool, much more than a muscle bound, but chubby guy (personal experience from bulking and cutting).
Left is quite achievable with decent genes and gym 3x a week
Lmao this is exactly my point. Most of this board is no different really. The guy is literally a professional. His life revolves around being in shape. He is possibly natty so it’s not as impressive as a lot of what you see on the internet, but 1% of guys will look like that in that lighting. Yet people think it’s easily achievable and common.
So don’t fall for this moronic meme for a second anons. Most guys can work their asses off and still have a physique that’s below what women consider naturally athletic or the body of a guy who works in construction or some other equally clueless idea
You honestly believe that achieving this can only be done by working on it full time? I'm sorry dude but you must have shit genetics. Go to literally any martial arts school in your home town and half the guys there will look like this. Also this photo has obviously been shopped, they Photoshop every publicity photo ever
IST is and has always been mostly a powersharter board. people here literally cannot grasp that a person can have visible abs, even if its just 2-pack or 4-pack. and i mean it makes sense because everyone''s advice is always to bulk so they literally cannot even imagine it being possible to achieve and maintain a normal athletic body.
The powershitters have their containment general for a reason
Most of us care about being lean
even if these stats aren't just made up, it's the posing that is the problem.
the no-lats pill strikes again
these bodyfat %s are way off, how gullible are you morons?
1.1% isn't even possible. he would be dead.
you trolling bro? the percentages indicate the percentage of women from the study who chose the pic as "most attractive" body type
You guys are looking for any reason to quit lifting weights
I'm looking for any reason to keep living
The numbers. Check em.
Who cares what women want?
>I want a man who does physical labor
>What do you mean you can't afford to take me to a nice restaurant!?!?
>men have to have great salaries, be emotional available, intelligent, have a career I can gloat about, be handsome…..
>oh and they need to have a physique gained from doing blue collar menial labor
Kek women.
But she has a point however who the frick cares? I’m a 21st century man and unfortunately that means I’m pulling in $120k but with my brain not body. So I lift during my lunch hour to stay fit and healthy. It’s the best I can do and I don’t feel bad about it at all.
anyone who listen to what a woman says about her preferences deserves what they get
Anyone with a Lum pfp is not very intelligent.
>anime pfp
not listening
some guys will look like intermediate lifters even though they don't lift, it's just genetics, which is the main thing women filter men by. women don't find muscles by themselves attractive, they find the man's frame attractive and the muscles are just icing on the cake. they find the frame attractive because the whole reason they feel attraction in the first place is to reproduce, and for that they want only the best genetics to pass onto the next generation. bigger frame/height = stronger man, to protect the woman and her children.
Are there any modern examples of people who are fit through physical labor? Seems just about every guy has some exercise routine.
Not in the first world, usually. Because first worlders rarely have physical jobs.
I notice there haven't been any examples posted here. I doubt the person who posted the tweet has any pictures either. Farmers must be the closest thing, but they do use a lot of machinery.
First Worlders, ie whites usually have extreme sleeper builds if working a physical jobs, they basically look like twinks or fat-ish and can lift as much as 2-5 non-whites all fricking day. But as already said, few Whites are working pyhsicla jobs nowadays. I have seen some old, dyel construciton worker easily lift and carry bags of cement that 2 muscular black guys could barely move though. That was some TV show where they put German contrsuction workers onto a African construction site and vice versa. There was also another case where some German basedboy reporter did some non seriosu sparring against a Senegalese wrestling champ and pretty much could completely stop and block the black guy just by using strength, no wrestlign technique. The black guy then got so mad he started using dangerous techniques and almost hurt the reporter.
But anyway, white people have invisible strength, you better believe it.
>Tv show
>Blacks are not depicted as the most perfect angels
You'd literally never see a show like this in the USA or Canada
But why would i care about some random roastie
I am not stupid so i dont do physical labor, plain and simple
Well done on not actually reading the posts you referenced frickwit.
guarantee this moronic b***h doesnt know what shes talking about
>user with anime girl avatar
This is not a woman
Women have no idea how much time and effort it takes to get a great body, not to mention the cost to buy high quality ingredients, protein etc, all the equipment you buy.
But women are also super concerned about looking shallow so they'll never admit they want Chad but every single study and metric shows they want the gym body but they'll never admit to it openly
I'd like to see examples of what she thinks muscle from physical labor looks like.
short answer: no
I mentioned this the other day as well
ideal male body is a bit more athletic and aesthetic than this
less and you need to rely on other skills, more and you need to overcome low iq beefhead accusations
and btw picrel prbably looks good with a pump
Okay, and your pic is also the result of several years in the gym, just with less focus on diet.
yeah
its all you need to have a good body, lifting 2-3 times and having an ounce of moderation and common sense when it comes to what you consume
how you present yourself and if you can carry this body around while having your life together at the same time matter more
I googled "normal male body" for the pic btw
>the result of several years in the gym
Time spent lifting doesn't really come into it, some form of training should be part of your baseline lifestyle anyway
If you look good from doing manual labor you would look just as good if not better training in the gym.
Just be natty, have a low body fat percentage and train for aesthetics/V taper. It's that fricking easy.
>daily physical labor
But that's for poor people
You still look a lot better from working out than not working out
And as we have established women don't really know what they want
troony demoralization thread
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I have eschewed hard labour jobs to give more opportunity for women to work in those fields while I lift and nap during the day when it's quiet. It's a sacrifice, but it's only fair to do this.
>Lum pfp
>no username
Anon I
>obscure anime profile pic only a always online troony would know about.
>Brainlet take from sperg youtuber like goatis a always online troony would know about.
So what is this about women?
I just want the government to know I can rape women and therefore they must dedicate resources to watching me oscillate from home to gym to home instead of using their resources to battle anti-semites, which I am.
what a dumb b***h. construction workers end up being flabby skinny fats with a beer belly, doing "daily physical labor" for years or decades.
Anyone remember that pic of a fat girl wanting a real man who works on a farm with someone responding, "Someone who works with pigs all day doesn't want to come home to one"?
You homosexuals are all so pathetic. Take a step back and evaluate why the frick youre all having a mongoloid level debate about what women think. Im lifting because i want to be fricking huge and bench 4 pl8. Its either for yourself or for failure.
you literally cannot build muscle with >daily manual labor
For women guys who looks like zyzz get their bodies by playing sports with their friends and working construction while a normal guy who works out a lot will look like pic related. Don’t forget that for a second when women say they hate muscles
olympia level roidfreaks are objectively disgusting. impressive and jealousy-inducing yes (for other men), but just disgusting for almost all women
she's too stu pid to understand that she's talking about steroid abusers on cable machines, not people that are wise and know the real shit
lum is so sexy, how do i get a horned gf?
Cringe
she’s a ISTner post-wall fat pregnant b***h with subhuman looking kids and an unfit husband with a gut
This is kinda true in that most people only train their "beach muscles". I still think it looks good. Oh no, your hobby is lifting weights as opposed to, idk, playing with a ball in a grass field like a fricking toddler lol
Pic related is her at 19 as a single mother. Mind you she’s pushing 30 now and the husband is taking care of another man’s child while she stays at home jobless. This is who IST made a 150 reply count thread about
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