is it possible for me to somewhat attain bottom physique?
im 5'6/5'8 and i dont know my weight
im interested in training mostly calisthenics since thats what the people who have my ideal body type train primarily, plus i have 0 interest in strength or anything, i just want the aesthetics
besides knowing if its possible any tips for a beginner? i read through the link in the sticky and read and watched a lot about beginner calisthenics plus dieting etc, but opinions are so varied it feels difficult for me to stay committed to one routine. right now im following the BWF Primer 14 day routine and going to aim for around 1500-1600 calories. plus getting more sleep and water.
yeah my body looks disgusting and deformed but im aware of that and genuinely want to change it so i dont need that pointed out to me
Totally doable. Dude isn't even big and looks natty, just young and lean. It's going to take a long time though OP. Get started.
Also, don't listen to the powerfats. Calisthenics can and will get you a physique proportioned like that. Maybe throw in some bench, ohp, deads and squats too if you want to cover your missing bases.
Yes, very doable.
Don't listen to this moron.
Calisthenics can help supplement your workout but you'll et to that physique a lot quicker with moderate weightlifting 3 ~ 4 times a week, cardio, and getting your macros correct with your diet.
Read the sticky. He's just cut. Not strong.
>dont listen to powerfats
>calisthenics will do
>yeah and just remember to do everything the powerfats do on top of calisthenics
I am the anon you were responding to. I respect that powerfats do the best lifts, but I do not like their methods. You also don't have to do any of those lifts, I just like them.
actually, yes. i think you should start with a little cardio, you look a little skinny-fat (and you will have visible abs too)
but anyways if you grow your shoulders, lats, chest and arms you could look big / aesthetic if u wannabe
yeah, im definitely skinny fat. i dont live in a location where i can do jogging or anything so will an indoor cardio routine get me good results?
im down for anything, unfortunately i live in the middle of nowhere and we dont have a gym, so thats why i was attracted to calisthenics. this guy posts on instagram and he does pretty much only calisthenics from what ive seen, but i dont doubt that youre right some weightlifting will probably accelerate my progress a lot more
this sounds mostly good, although i thought that it would be more beneficial to eat in a calorie deficit right now? i dont train enough to be eating 3000 and i think its more important to lose the fat i currently have before focusing on refining my muscles.
>i dont train enough to be eating 3000 and i think its more important to lose the fat i currently have before focusing on refining my muscles.
You're talking with someone who's never been fat in his life, so I can't really help you with it.
I suppose I could recommend cutting off sugary shit, everything will taste better trust me. Also chips since it makes your skin oily and is just a chemical bomb in the first place.
Also, don't be afraid to workout even if you have that fat on you. Just give it a shot instead of making three more threads on the same topic "can I get X physique if I look like Y" or "does working out hurt me :(" just fricking do it man. You're not losing anything.
yeah im not opposed to working out at all, i need the activity in my life. im working as a producer and dj right now so im actually pretty sedentary
this made me laugh, lol but you lost me in the second half
damn, well im pretty uneducated on what kind of physiques take more work than others, i just picked an example of somebody that has the kind of proportions i wish i could have. im still equally impressed by people who are much less built than him but are still kind of toned. to be completely honest, ideally i would not be that ripped. the main goal for me is to improve my body so i can fit in with my peers since im studying fashion design right now and im the only fat weird straight guy in a pool of skinny women and ripped gay guys. helps the clothes look better.
Don't listen to all these doomer gays. Calisthenics are perfectly fine. The most shredded (not big,) guys at my gym almost exclusively do calisthenics. What'd really most important is what do you enjoy? The best program will be what you can do consistently and progressively. Calisthenics at least has the benefit of low risk of injury.
>Calisthenics at least has the benefit of low risk of injury.
Anon, I...
>you lost me in the second half
Until you're strong enough to perform an exercise correctly, you're stuck with shitty half-assed versions of the actual exercise (regressions). Once the exercise is too easy you will have to find ways to make it harder or just deal with the fact going above the ideal hypertrophy range (5-30 reps) is less than ideal for... hypertrophy.
Some exercises rely heavily on technique which is another bottleneck to your training.
A gymcel on the other hand would just use a lighter or heavier weight and leave 0 gainz on the table. And if his grip is tired or whatever he can hop on a machine and still get in meaningful workout.
buy a barbell and rack, do something like SS until you have some muscle. u have no muscle and a lot of fat, probably weak as shit. up to you if you wanna go on a caloric surplus but if I was you I would eat at a smaller deficit or maintenance. will be better in the long run and training won't suck balls
you can always just go for the workout fist, or get into a gym with treadmills
but yeah you can just bulk your way up and then u'll rather look bulky-strong
I looked similar to you two years ago minus the belly, I was skinny as frick to say the least. Also 170cm.
I started out as basically just getting my first equipment and having a terrible plan consisting of just doing upper body, it will only lead you to injury and other shit, either way, make a plan for your entire body (do legs don't be a homosexual).
Took me a while to maintain an acceptable weight and still going, just stay consistent and remember to do every single body part, for "cool muscles" do reverse bicep curls for forearms and lateral raises for decent shoulders. Don't forget about traps.
Remember to sleep enough and don't drink alcohol unless it's very occasional, if you're drinking at least three times a month then better drop it because that shit won't get you anywhere.
Also thing that's equally important to lifting - eating, get 3000kcal each day or as much as you can, at this state you could even eat frozen pizzas that contain 800-900kcal each for early bulk, later when you reach the stage where you actually have muscle, pay attention to nutrients and shit.
And no creatine won't make you bald.
I'm sure someone has better advice than I do but I'm just saying what I learned through my experience.
Yes and no. That dude has wider shoulders, apart from that yes why not, you're not disdigured
What bf % is the bottom guy? Just your guesstimation is fine.
from the delt striations I'd say 8% but otherwise he looks 10-12%
You don't have a body type. You're a blank canvas (ie a shapeless blob of flab).
If you have a solid strength foundation (say 5+ strict pullups and 5+ dips) calisthenics are fine but not ideal. As a beginner that's way out of your league so you will be spinning your wheels for a while until you build sufficient tendon and muscle strength. Never mind building cannonball delts with esoteric shit like iron cross regressions when you could just OHP, but I digress.
Not really. Out of people who have been lifting for 10+ years, I'd say less than 1%, maybe even sub 0,5% of people have ever gotten bodyfat that low. And those who have, definitely dont maintain it indefinitely. Its more like couple weeks out of the year where they look like that. And they also dont look like that even then, thats only under specific lighting, pump, and carb loading.
Its not a bad pipe dream goal but understand that people in real world dont look like that just walking around. These are extremely carefully curated, photoshopped and filtered images. Also his look is almost entirely caused by his good insertions and proportions. Yeah you can lose the fat and grow your back and shoulders and manipulate the proportions too but visually aestethic bodies are usually genetic outliers.
Like idk. Again its not a bad goal and you know shoot for the stars land in the moon type of stuff but you are seriously so fricking absurdly far from it that its literally impossible to say. People have 10x better body than you and even they are couple years away from reaching that physique. Whenever you look like that, its REALLY REALLY hard for me to just say that "yeah you can achieve that bodyfat while maintaining lean muscle" when you dont have the slightest fricking clue what it takes.
>I'd say less than 1%, maybe even sub 0,5% of people have ever gotten bodyfat that low
Black person THINKS WHOLE WORLD IS USA..............
Racism isn’t allowed on fit
>Out of people who have been lifting for 10+ years, I'd say less than 1%, maybe even sub 0,5% of people have ever gotten bodyfat that low.
Go to a calisthenics park and everybody will be fukken shredded and basically 1 minicut and/or week of prep away from single digit BF%. Gymcels, on top of abhorring cardio, would rather bench 2pl8 than be this lean. And there's nothing wrong with that.
I'm just here to say we're not samegayging. At least someone here has some fricking sense. Also calisthenics will only injure you if you're fat or moronic.
Not true. Overuse injuries are extremely common and the calisthenics equivalent of egolifting gets people fricked up all the time.
You can ascribe the latter to moronation but even when you do everything right shit just happens. You lose your balance and miss a fall, overestimate RIR and technique goes out of the window, etc.
On the other hand a cautious gymcel can minimize the risk of injury down to act of God/zoomie hurled a dbbell and it landed on my foot.
How do you get that dry leathery skin as a natty? Diuretics? Low sodium?
Dry skin? The guy on the bottom's skin looks better than mine and I don't do drugs or alcohol of any kind.
Yes he is dry, holding almost no water weight.
Isn't that just a low bodyfat %? I am a DYEL but cant you just diet, fast, and do cardio to reach and even surpass that %? Maybe you can't maintain it, but you don't need to maintain for a pic right?
>is it possible for me to somewhat attain bottom physique?
Yes.
Eat more meat and potatoes and eggs.
Go to gym 4x week religiously
Train a lot of volume with moderate weights.
I looked like that in 1 year of srs training. Lets imagine you are new to any sports - 1.5 to 2 years to looks very sikilar to that.
And get a tan lmao
Attaining leanness is much harder than attaining muscle mass. You can do calisthenics, but you need to roid