It’s retarded to hop on gear in general. Women don’t like roided physiques at all, so you are literally destroying your healt so that you can be popular with men. Fucking men KEK. Anyone who has ever taken roids is an idiot and a loser and I don’t care if they’re a governer of a U.S. State or a gay man in a gym. They are all LOSERS
Or hop on gear and get the same results in 4 months.
The biggest issue is mainly your diet. Serious natty lifters have this keyed in, so they get phenomenal results when adding steroids. Newbies generally have a shit diet and end up with marginal results even on powerful compounds.
...and lose them in another 4 months
I've seen plenty of this dyels hoping on roids getting some gains and losing it in no time. Easy come easy go.
Don't forget gyno and back full of zitts
There are pros and cons to anything. The side effects of steroids are highly publicized but relatively uncommon. There are 10+m men who take some form of aas each year and you hear only about the rare cases of adverse effects.
Like any drug, some people are genetically predisposed to rare complications. These make the news. The millions who are just fine, don’t. Serious complications are rare even then.
In reality there are very safe ways of taking roids. Issues arise mainly due to self inflicted bad choices in terms of quantity and duration of compound use. The steroid taking population is self selecting for high risk behavior and often take dangerously high doses due to impatience or ignorance (these compounds have diminishing returns, a little goes a long way, a lot goes just a little further).
You read on forums men who triple the dosage of orals after a week of not seeing a total transformation of their skinnyfat body for example. Or men who are afraid to cycle and stay on powerful compounds like Tren for months longer than recommended.
Couple this with risk tolerant behavior and you have men drinking alcohol on top of liver toxic compounds, or failure to do bloodwork regularly.
Even then, serious complications are rare. The horror stories come from anecdotal examples of individuals who made these decisions and were predisposed to complications.
Knowledge, discipline, and precaution mitigate nearly all complication related to steroid use.
>There are pros and cons to anything.
And the pros to roids don't outweigh the cons. Simple risk to reward ratio. The risk isn't worth the reward here.
I don't think you realize how life changing getting a great body can be for some people tbqh
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I don't think you realize most pussy on roids have bodies that are natty obtainable because most are pussies with their workouts in the first place hence easy to catch up. 99% of roid users don't look like the next arnold, lol
It’s retarded to hop on gear in general. Women don’t like roided physiques at all, so you are literally destroying your healt so that you can be popular with men. Fucking men KEK. Anyone who has ever taken roids is an idiot and a loser and I don’t care if they’re a governer of a U.S. State or a gay man in a gym. They are all LOSERS
And why do you want to get stronger? You don’t need to be extremely strong to live your life. Thus there are two possible options. You want to get extremely strong at the expense of your health because you want others to respect you which is cucked, or you want to get extremely strong because you have a low self-esteem and need the idea of being extremely strong to give you self-esteem… which is also cucked.
Just stay natty bro and bulk up
This is such an L take and I'm against roids. The whole point to training at ALL is to get strong and you're basically saying that's a "so'y" thing? That makes 0 sense. You NEVER want to be in a position of weakness. Simple as that. You ALWAYS want to be ready against threats hence getting strong to not let anyone assert dominance over you
>posts a picture of a dead guy who died from steroids who said countless times DO NOT COPY ME I AM AN IDIOT AND I WILL DIE DOING THIS SHIT
hm yeah why not just hop on
Basically this. 8 months isn't long enough to know that you'll take it seriously for years on end. It's common for people to lift for about a year then give it up. Hit it hard for 2-3 years then you'll know you have it in you.
I heard when you use steroids you get more nuclei in your muscles, or some shit, so if you hopped off and became auschwitz mode you'd still have more nuclei ready to go than a natty if you bulked up again.
Which suggests to me that the big brained way would be use the steroids early on and then quit.
Then you can lie to others and yourself: >bro, i'm totally natty, i only used that shit for six months 10 years ago.
But you have permanently increased your potential.
You can get the same effect just by lifting natty. The difference is that roids will mess with your endocrine system and when you come off then you'll fuck your hormones, lose muscle and feel like shit.
Yes. Work out for 5 years first and see if you still want to hop on then
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Or hop on gear and get the same results in 4 months.
The biggest issue is mainly your diet. Serious natty lifters have this keyed in, so they get phenomenal results when adding steroids. Newbies generally have a shit diet and end up with marginal results even on powerful compounds.
...and lose them in another 4 months
I've seen plenty of this dyels hoping on roids getting some gains and losing it in no time. Easy come easy go.
Don't forget gyno and back full of zitts
Let's just ignore all the cons to roids, huh?
There are pros and cons to anything. The side effects of steroids are highly publicized but relatively uncommon. There are 10+m men who take some form of aas each year and you hear only about the rare cases of adverse effects.
Like any drug, some people are genetically predisposed to rare complications. These make the news. The millions who are just fine, don’t. Serious complications are rare even then.
In reality there are very safe ways of taking roids. Issues arise mainly due to self inflicted bad choices in terms of quantity and duration of compound use. The steroid taking population is self selecting for high risk behavior and often take dangerously high doses due to impatience or ignorance (these compounds have diminishing returns, a little goes a long way, a lot goes just a little further).
You read on forums men who triple the dosage of orals after a week of not seeing a total transformation of their skinnyfat body for example. Or men who are afraid to cycle and stay on powerful compounds like Tren for months longer than recommended.
Couple this with risk tolerant behavior and you have men drinking alcohol on top of liver toxic compounds, or failure to do bloodwork regularly.
Even then, serious complications are rare. The horror stories come from anecdotal examples of individuals who made these decisions and were predisposed to complications.
Knowledge, discipline, and precaution mitigate nearly all complication related to steroid use.
>There are pros and cons to anything.
And the pros to roids don't outweigh the cons. Simple risk to reward ratio. The risk isn't worth the reward here.
I don't think you realize how life changing getting a great body can be for some people tbqh
I don't think you realize most pussy on roids have bodies that are natty obtainable because most are pussies with their workouts in the first place hence easy to catch up. 99% of roid users don't look like the next arnold, lol
Nah I definitely understand that
100% the truth right here
Diet is everything for getting the best response from gear
It’s retarded to hop on gear in general. Women don’t like roided physiques at all, so you are literally destroying your healt so that you can be popular with men. Fucking men KEK. Anyone who has ever taken roids is an idiot and a loser and I don’t care if they’re a governer of a U.S. State or a gay man in a gym. They are all LOSERS
>Attention from men
Couldn't care less about what people think of my appearance I just want to get stronger
And why do you want to get stronger? You don’t need to be extremely strong to live your life. Thus there are two possible options. You want to get extremely strong at the expense of your health because you want others to respect you which is cucked, or you want to get extremely strong because you have a low self-esteem and need the idea of being extremely strong to give you self-esteem… which is also cucked.
Just stay natty bro and bulk up
I guess it is kinda gay either way maybe I will stay natty
Top man. Natty is great!
This is such an L take and I'm against roids. The whole point to training at ALL is to get strong and you're basically saying that's a "so'y" thing? That makes 0 sense. You NEVER want to be in a position of weakness. Simple as that. You ALWAYS want to be ready against threats hence getting strong to not let anyone assert dominance over you
>posts a picture of a dead guy who died from steroids who said countless times DO NOT COPY ME I AM AN IDIOT AND I WILL DIE DOING THIS SHIT
hm yeah why not just hop on
That was the point retard
if it was the point you wouldnt have needed to ask
yes, you'll lose interest in the gym within 2-3 years, not worth fucking up your health for it.
Basically this. 8 months isn't long enough to know that you'll take it seriously for years on end. It's common for people to lift for about a year then give it up. Hit it hard for 2-3 years then you'll know you have it in you.
I heard when you use steroids you get more nuclei in your muscles, or some shit, so if you hopped off and became auschwitz mode you'd still have more nuclei ready to go than a natty if you bulked up again.
Which suggests to me that the big brained way would be use the steroids early on and then quit.
Then you can lie to others and yourself:
>bro, i'm totally natty, i only used that shit for six months 10 years ago.
But you have permanently increased your potential.
What the fuck is this bro science? Just use google and read some scientific articles to see why it's retarded, lol
You can get the same effect just by lifting natty. The difference is that roids will mess with your endocrine system and when you come off then you'll fuck your hormones, lose muscle and feel like shit.