Okay, so for the last 4-5 years I have been pretty depressed, despite taking care of myself by going to the gym, good sleep, healthy eating, building a career, entertaining my hobbies etc. I've done it all but still feel very meh. Suicidal ideation comes up a lot. Mostly in a philosophical sense right now. Thoughts like "Hm, I wonder if there's something better in the after life". Anyways I don't have many options anymore. The ones I can think of are a heavy dose of psychedelics (I hear this will mostly just be temporary) or taking TRT. As far as my levels, I think I'm only a little bit below average, so this would really just be a life booster and an alternative to antidepressants. I'd like to enjoy my 30s and I've been thinking if maybe taking TRT can help with this. I'd hate to look back and think to myself I should have went hard on TRT in my 30s and enjoyed life. Before I know it, I'll be 40.
What do you guys think? Can TRT be a game changer in life?
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Are you lonely?
Yes
Then the better option before turning to medicating would be to try and make some friends.
i agree except this is not easy is such a lethargic and depressed state
Right and you can always make it worse. How do you think people end up committing suicide? They get depressed due to being shit on by a israelite world. But that doesn't cause a normal, healthy person to commit suicide, what will truly break their back is going on israelite pharma and stuff like TRT.
>i agree except this is not easy is such a lethargic and depressed state
Test didn't noticeably affect my mental state. My depression related anhedonia and hypersomnolence remained at full power, maybe got worse.
Bupropion was my cure.
(+fluvoxamine for anxiety.)
Give it a try and hope for the best. This is just my experience.
Are antidepressants actually better than TRT
For depression, for me, it seems so.
If test works for you you'll be taking that for the rest of your life too.
Are anti depressants the only way to control major depressive disorder? I don't want to be reliant on meds for the rest of my life.
Bro they don't even actually understand how ssris work.
ssris are much better options when compared to TRT, trust me on that
I fried my brain on amphetamines when I was young. It took ten years for me get to the point afterwards where I could hold a job for any meaningful period of time, pay my bills, etc. I thought about suicide nearly every day during that period. Sometimes I very unexplainable feelings of despair, that I think have something to do with my grandmother doing of cancer when I was very young. I suffer it all, gladly, because I can. Because I am human, and life isn't easy, but at least I'm not a Black person.
>I fried my brain on amphetamines when I was young
like ADHD medication or street drugs?
Street.
Making friends isn't so hard. Give it a shot. If you've got your exercise/ diet/ sleep and work affairs in order, devote a few months to striking up a friendship. I know it's not easy and people fricking suck, but everyone is a people to another person. If you make friends and have a social safety net, and you're still depressed? Maybe start looking at medications, but first talk to people at work, school, the gym, church. Try to find some common interests.
I was and still partially am like you. Psychedelics somewhat helped me (I think?). Though I can't vouch for how long term it is. Anyway, they did help me realize that this is just how life is. It might sound bad, but maybe your "hobbies" are actually not fun for you? Maybe you're stuck in an eternal grind for nothing and everyday just feels the same.
The best advice I can give you is try new things. Psychedelics are pretty severe and so are roids from what my impression. Maybe start with less "severe" that are still outside of your comfort zone?
You () mentioned you're lonely. Try and start engaging with people who share your hobbies. If you're just going to the gym and doing powerlifting/bodybuilding and don't know how to engage with people then you can try and find an actual sports club. It will probably feel weird at first ("what do I say? Am I making a fool out of myself?"), but hey, at least you'll feel something.
Hang in there anon, WAGMI!
thats not how it works.
If you have a shitty boring life and youre depressed, thats called normal. you should be depressed and low energy. If you take TRT, at best you'll feel better but you'll still likely have a shitty life.
What you should do instead is make friends, find fun hobbies, go on adventures, and see if you improve. Find mistakes in your life that are obvious flaws and fix them. If you dont improve in mood then you should consider TRT.
TRT is not that big deal. So, whatever do it and if you don't like just come off. See it for yourself
This question is too easy. I will not answer it
How could I know what you should do motherfricker? How?! You are asking if you should blow your health with injectable drugs or taking "heavy" doses of mushrooms
Motherfricker have no idea, once I did half a flask of dianabol and my nipples itched so much I was walking around scratching my breasts 24/7 like a moron, dont do that way
1st time I eat mushrooms I got a bag of rice with me to camp and the rice was over very fast so I went for berries but found some mushrooms. I was told that mushrooms from cow shit were safe. I eat so much that half an hour later I was seeing nagas walking at the river edge, I was talking to Budas, seing flowers of light coming out the ground and seeing fricking step pyramids
Very confusing, could have gonne super bad
I have different opinions about religion now, some about myself, but nothing super life changing
Well, at least I did bot died alone in the forest
Just do some homework and try
You will do everything wrong thinking you had it figured out at first
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taking testosterone is a much smarter idea than becoming a guy that gets high off mushrooms
I agree
I have a little test on me, just enjoy the body felling psilocybin gives while lifting, it come as waves of heat and an urge to stretch... Also the blood flow increase a bit and give a nice pump
But it is hard to get a precise dose and the tolerance builds up in 4 days.. then you come off and if you do the same dose as last you leave your home to go to gym and the street starts to warp under your feet
When this happens I turn around and go for a long walk in the sun and breath deep
I noticed that you need to keep your mind focused on nice things. While under mushrooms it is very easy to crawn into fetal position and cry alone for things you did 15 yeas ago. I guess it is the same without mushrooms... You keep feeding bad things and sink further and further into depression over time. With mushrooms it is just faster
do you even lift brah?
>I go to the gym
okay but do you LIFT brah?
if you never walk out of the gym with imaginary lat syndrome and feel like starting a race war because Pancho cut you off in his 2008 tacoma
you are NOT lifting
I think you will be much, much better off with psychedelics. It's not always a smooth ride but they got rid of my suicidal ideation. I still get depressed or have anger issues, but I no longer view hurting myself as an worthwhile response. The drug effect is of course temporary, it's the insights about yourself that can lead to permanent changes in life.
My mental state improved a ton once I left this board, and working on my projects more often.
If you don't have a job that might help keep you busy and not worried.
If girls want to keep their teeth, have an unbroken nose, and eyes free from blackness they should stop making this “cute” face
There is no reason for a human to not get trt these days other than economics. If you can afford it, do it.
>Suicidal ideation
Testosterone increase suicide, this is very well established. Have you noticed that men commit suicide more than women.
Anyway, by all means inject your gender affirming care hormones roidtroony.
How can I look like the girl in that picture? How can I be her?
girls are so cute but awful in every other way
you will never be a woman no matter how rich you are or how good your genes are, just learn to lucid dream or something, or be a fake bimbo with bolt ons that's pretty hot
In a similar boat to you OP. Depression is the angst of the soul. Two things that personally help me, maybe they will help you too.
1) Meditate. Sit legs crossed, one palm on top of the other (you’ve seen multiple Buddhist statues in this position), back straight. Focus on your breath, don’t fixate on your thoughts and don’t seek to push them out - aim to be a detached observer and just focus on your breath. Also, none of this 20 minutes a day nonsense. Push yourself and do 1-2 hours a day (I break it up into two sessions - 1 one in the day time one before going to sleep) or more. I know that may seem like a big time investment but it is worth it.
2) Write down your dreams in as much detail as possible.
I would also recommend reading works by Carl Jung. It will help formalize the aforementioned advice. “Please remember, it is what you are that heals, not what you know”
I didn't read anything past "Okay" but by the length of it it should be you b***hing about something dumb and unimportant, probably made up even. Your life will improve overnight if you'd stop making useless threads for attention and choosing idiotic photos to go along with them.
why is IST full of lust-provoking images
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