Why do, almost exclusively, White people do this whole self acceptance cope thing after they grey, bald, or age? Do what Black folk, spics, arabs, pajeets, and assorted asiatics do and either stop it before it happens or fake it to you make it. >they lose their hair at 2/3rds the rate and not nearly as early but do something about nonetheless when the issue arrises
White people literally invented all the methods people use to ‘do something about’ it you goddamned moron. Where on earth does this inferiority-superiority complex so many useless minorities have come from these days? Are the schools really that bad?
Sikhs normally go bald from traction alopecia. I'm a Punjabi, and every older guy in my family has a full head of (very long) hair, but the older guys have thin hair that is receded specifically because of tying it up really tight every day
>every guy in my family has a full head of (very long) hair, but the older guys have thin hair
I accidentally put the word "older" in twice. Sorry, I'm literally an ASL pajeet
captcha: S IR5
>Why do white people accept reality and move on
Because theres no point getting hung up on it.
Contrary to demoralizes cries, women are still interested
What does drinking have to do with balding? I understand excessive drinking can age you more quickly compared to sobriety but not to the degree that balding impacts your appearance. Being an egghead at 28 dries pussies like the sahara unless you have a good face, at which point hair doesn’t matter as much anyway.
my comment was more to do with aging. the guy in the picture looks so old not because he's bald (although it doesn't help) but because of his poor lifestyle choices.
not really, that's just genes, I eat processed goyslop all my life, smoke cigarettes, and didn't touch a weight until 2 years ago and I look 10 years younger than that guy at the same age
I think its the balding + freckling that does it to this guy. People always thought I was much older due to my stature and hairline+goatee. They just thought I looked too much like a man to be late teens early 20s
That's why going bald is a death sentence. No matter your age, you automatically look like a middle-aged schlub. Conversely, all the guys who "age like fine wine" have thick full heads of hair
I don’t think the age really matters in regards to how well treatment will work. A NW3 20yo and a NW3 40yo will respond to treatment the same way. The only difference is the 20 year olds life will be ruined by baldness but it’s pretty normal for a 40yo to lose hair
I'm not so sure of that. Essentially 99% of men have SOME degree of thinning eventually. Even older guys who never go bald still typically thin out or have some recession. Guys like Ronald Reagan are total outliers.
With that in mind, I believe there's a correlation between onset of balding and how aggressive it is. If a guy starts the first signs of slight thinning in his 30s/40s, its probably just a slow gradual thing that will probably stabilize without going full NW7 horseshoe. But the guys who start in their late teens and early 20s? They're the ones who end up going full chrome dome
Fin 1mg a day which is standard. Minox 5% is either taking topically 2 times per day orally once a day, however the oral version could potentially increase your resting heart rate.
My advise would be to start with fin right away and see if it yields any results within the first six months before hopping on min.
1mg is proving to yield the best results but 0.5mg works as well in most cases. I suffer no side effects so i'm not taking any chances. I don't use minoxidil currently.
my hair was almost this bad. best advice is get on fin.
my hair has almost grown back entirely. no side effects. i beat off everyday.
there is a point of no return. if you keep waiting the hair thats dormant that might be save able could die off, then you are really fricked.
talk to a doctor if you are that scared.
i thought it was bullshit.
first week when I started fin my hairline tingled.
week 3 i started shedding.
2.5 months i started noticing regrowth.
6 months i felt comfortable not wearing a hat.
1.5 years i stopped the shedding entirely.
all i have are high corners, which is a "natural look" for adult men.
my hair is thick and full.
nah im not gonna share photos. 1 idk where the before are, and 2 im tired.
tik tok anon. the dormant hair is dying in your scalp. you either start the perscription or dont.
10k hair inplant plus lifetime supply of fin 10k
VS
lifetime supply of fin is about 10k. its just cheaper to take the pill.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Can you link me?
11 months ago
Anonymous
hair implants become part of your body after therefore you are biological not bald or it's just a sophisticated wig?
11 months ago
Anonymous
you have to understand blood flow. your front of the top of the head doesnt get good blood flow. thats why mens sides and back dont go bald first in most cases.
if you just slap a bunch of new hair on top your gonna have the same issue. the DHT is going to shrik your pores mixed with lack of blood circulation. then boom. bald again. even after implants your still gonna need to pop fin.
so why pay for expensive surgery just to come to the same conclusion that you should take the fin.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Frick off
11 months ago
Anonymous
What's the matter sweetie?
11 months ago
Anonymous
>you have to understand blood flow
literally the one and only cause of balding thats why oral minox can overpower DHT atleast for a while, it increases blood flow so much that not even the reduction of bf from DHT will make the hair die.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Blood flow is a meme that got debunked by hair transplant experiments 50 years ago.
anyone who does minox, when you stop using it, does the hair that's grown back stay or does it thin/fall out?
You never stop using minoxidil. And without finasteride/dutasteride the effect only lasts for two years.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Hair implants are transplants of your own healthy hair follicles from the back of your head.
weights do not cause but exacerbate hairloss as it increases test in average by 15-20% now roiders might skew the data so it could be less for natties but it does increase test
This guy is actually a legit ballet instructor. Could probably murder with his bare hands like 90% of fit.
The irony of asian culture is that they definitely put more emphasis on looks, but a tall fit bald dude is a fricking Chad over there. It sets you apart, and white men are a huge status symbol for high quality asian women. Not poor bug trash people, women with status and connections.
Guarantee this dude never sleeps alone over there.
Being over 6' and white in Asia will make you a chad assuming you still have your hair. Without your hair you will still only be able to pull 35+ single moms.
>28 >work at local uni >see students every day in their late teens and early 20s, many obese, many more balding
the gods blessed me with a steady hairline but theres gonna be somehting in the water or something man, this shit aint natural
Bro I used to mock people on IST for balding too. I used to jump into these threads and laugh at the desperation and despair of all the balding and bald anons for YEARS in my 20s... Then I turned 30 and started balding.
Don't be too wienery... Your turn will come soon enough.
https://i.imgur.com/whb4fQB.jpg
If you're starting to bald at 40+, you're fine
If you're starting to bald at 30, you're good and it will be a slow process
If you're starting to bald 25, you're in the danger zone but meds can save you still
If you're starting to bald at 20, you're out of luck. Meds might do only so much and you would want to consider a hair transplant
If you're starting to bald 18 or lower, it's over
Could not believe how bad balding was by early 30s for nearly everyone I went to school with. It’s gotta be like 90% are at least receding. Thank god for /fit. All the balding demoralization threads actually put it on my radar. I realized I was starting to bald and started dermapen and minoxidil and am doing better than nearly everyone my age that I know
Ok just note that derma-rolling and minoxidil won't actually help stop balding. They'll only mask it. The only way to stop the root cause of balding which is DHT killing off your hair follicles slowly is by taking finasteride.
I'm mid 20s, and nearly everyone I knew in school looks worse. Just health wise in general. Balding, loss of muscle for the athletes, most of them are fat. One guy I knew who was relatively lean, decently athletic, is now an absolute bloat lord and buzzes his hair from balding. I was a fatty in school and still could be a lot better (15% bf, and did a good bulk over fall/winter) but I swear I mog most of my former class mates. Even the women look like shit now. The only one I can think of that actually looks better is this weeb girl I went on a few dates with. She was always thin and sickly looking in school but now she at least tries to go to the gym and eat good. What in the frick happened IST?
Guys are getting grey way earlier these days too. I still remember as a kid, grey hair was really rare even in their 40s. Receding hair definitely happened but truly bald seemed rarer.
Nah, balding is the same. When my dad was in the millitary in the 70's, like a half of the guys there already had receding hairlines and they were all 19 or 20. The largest difference from today is that most of these guys already had a wife and a kid tho, so they didn't give a shit about going bald.
He looks like a goddamn unfrickable turd, and you're moronic if you think he looks somehow magically better. Frick your stupid ass for giving false hope to the total dregs of society.
you're looking at it from a male perspective. you think he looks better because he looks more masculine and intimidating, in reality he looks like shit and saying otherwise is a massive cope.
he can't be older than 25 in the second video and if you think girls around his age are into his current look you're just being a moron
>w*men >w*men
women are worthless exactly because they want manchildren. and you two have twisted subhuman homosexual brains for taking into account a womans desires. Disgusting.
you're looking at it from a male perspective. you think he looks better because he looks more masculine and intimidating, in reality he looks like shit and saying otherwise is a massive cope.
he can't be older than 25 in the second video and if you think girls around his age are into his current look you're just being a moron
lmao I have a bald friend who's 26 and doesn't even have a good looking face and yet I know a cute 19yo who's borderline begging for him to frick her, meanwhile I have a full head of hair and a decent face and I get zero pussy. You gays would find any excuse to avoid admitting that you don't have sex because of your shit personality
you're such a gay Black person that it's not even funny. are you telling me that your friend who's not attractive but most likely has a good personality as in he's funny and charismatic, is able to get girls while you on the other hand can't because you're an autistic homosexual? wow, i'm so surprised you gay c**t
it seems obvious to me too but apparently a lot of morons here don't seem to get it. But don't be mistaken, you are moronic just as much as them for this dumbfrick reply don't ever quote me again you troglodyte
He NEEDS to jack up and sit in the sun. The baldness + youthful immaculate porcelain skin just do not work. It's embrace the truck driver look or bust.
sometimes I am thinking to myself wether I was unlucky or just very lucky and dumb. Do boys at the age of 17 think about these things nowadays? I was a moron at his age, thinking about exams and generally being oblivious to all these things. I dont think I started thinking about balding before the age of 23. My first reall attempts at improving my looks were after I started my first real job (24 yo). Am I tardy?
Balding is the worst thing that can happen to a man other than some sort of debilitating chronic disease or disfiguring accident.
You essentially die socially. Nobody respects a baldo and everybody can see through your pathetic cope like the delusional baldo in this webm. I'll take the fricking finasteride every day rather than suffer from the social suicide from balding.
What is this moronic modern idea that growing a beard is a or some targeted decision that you're making in the same way that women wear makeup for example? Men just naturally grow beards. If anything shaving is more of a conscious choice, you have to upkeep a shaven face every few days. Why am I being looked at as a coping homosexual for simply letting the hair on my face grow normally as men have done for millenia and was the norm up until the past 100 years or so?
It is and always was beardlets being mad af about their shitty beardgenetics. Everywhere I go, people love my beard. Even girls that dont go for bearded guys love it.
He’s not wrong, when I was young I looked like shit, I was flabby and overweight, I acted like an butthole, but I had beautiful natural curly hair and girls in highschool, especially black girls, would give me tons of attention and let me smash just to play with it. Now I’m bald and fit and I gotta say being fit has about the same effect with women as having good hair.
He’s not wrong, when I was young I looked like shit, I was flabby and overweight, I acted like an butthole, but I had beautiful natural curly hair and girls in highschool, especially black girls, would give me tons of attention and let me smash just to play with it. Now I’m bald and fit and I gotta say being fit has about the same effect with women as having good hair.
Oh I didn’t actually read your post I just watched the webm, bro you’re a moron, losing my hair was like losing a cheat code that you never needed to beat the game anyway. I’ve been shaving my head since I was 20 and I’ve never had trouble with women or seen any negative outcomes cause of being bald, hell I’ve had a lot of positive social interactions that stemmed from being bald.
Just Kys bro, the fin isn’t going to fix your problem.
Creatine balding is so legit
There’s so much science on this
It’s like poison for your body and hair
Jk, my man can you post the study that convinced you for certain that creatine causes balding?
Yes because of increased androgens and what will help you with that for a large part is DHT-blockers such as Dutasteride, Finasteride, Saw Palmetto, Rosemary, etc.
NTA, I’ve been on it for about 2-3 weeks? About to start fin and I’m wondering if I should drop it and just go on fin so I can accurately see the results, will it frick up my hair or is that not long enough to see any results?
Take just fin for 1 year starting both is a bad idea, you could be a non responder to min whilst fin is giving you regrowth, you'll have no idea if min does anything and you'll be putting in on your head afraid to stop for the rest of your life when it might do nothing
NTA, I’ve been on it for about 2-3 weeks? About to start fin and I’m wondering if I should drop it and just go on fin so I can accurately see the results, will it frick up my hair or is that not long enough to see any results?
Guy looked better bald. Its like the squinting and pouting made him more handsome, then once he started smiling and opening his eyes he looked chubbier and goofier. Maybe that squintmaxxing shit has some truth to it.
These hair system webms are moronic all moronic as frick. All of these guys lets their hair on the sides grow out to match the system, so of course they look like this.
Most would look similarly attractive actually bald.
This guy would look significantly better bald in fact
Cos it takes skill to apply them and the market has been cornered by a few barbers that charge exorbitant prices for it.
), toupees are a Giffen good. The reason the market got cornered by a small number of barbers is BECAUSE they charge huge prices. People soon developed the perception that an expensive toupee is good, and a cheap toupee is bad, even though you're paying for the exact same product. The people who manufacture toupees know this, and increased their prices accordingly. This means that any barber who wants to enter the toupee market has to deal with the enormous financial barrier to entry.
>finasteride side effects >inability to have or maintain an erection.
decreased sexual desire.
problems with ejaculation (including decreased volume of ejaculate)
pain in the testicles.
depression.
So you get a few hairs back but your penis doesn't work anymore, your balls hurt, you lose interest in sex, and you become depressed
The worst possible side effect for minox is worsened hair loss
Take your pick
Personally I'd stay far away from finasteride but that's just me
Also minox kills cats so if you use minox products don't rub any on your cat or anywhere the cat might lick
I took the covid vaccine 3 times and an spiring dozens of times. According to muh sides effects I should've died several times over so since I'm seemingly immortal and invulnerable, I don't have to worry about side effects.
To add to that, the side effects of being bald include depression (due to being bald), low confidence (due to ridicule by others), sexlessness (because women don't like baldies), low libido (due to depression) and ed (due to depression). It's not like the choice is between finasteride or looking like Jason Statham, is it?
Society has evolved and women have more freedoms than ever before which means they can (and will) select against bald men. Why accept a handicap like that when you can just take finasteride and stop DHT from ravaging your hair, prostate, hair and brain (there's increasing evidence that blocking 5AR-2 gives you a longevity advantage)?
>women have more freedoms
maybe they will select against bald men if those bald men are snivelling wrecks because muh hair. finasteride has worse side effects than hair loss. grow up. ignore black pillers.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>finasteride has worse side effects than hair loss.
Side effects are rare and can be mitigated by either powering through (don't be a b***h) or lowering the dose. As long as you have hair, you maintain your vitality. Without your hair, you'll just look like a diseased animal and women will avoid you like the plague. The only reason why you're shilling against finasteride is because you're bald and want other people to be as miserable as you.
11 months ago
Anonymous
https://i.imgur.com/fq92e40.jpg
fear and insecurity makes you unattractive. keep being 'men' with your cope (your grandfather didn't need drugs to get pussy).
11 months ago
Anonymous
11 months ago
Anonymous
When you have hairline like pic rel don't fricking desperately cling to it and just shave it. You will look much better. Why keep something that makes you look 40 years older?
11 months ago
Anonymous
he would look fine shaved bald you just gave him an ugly conehead for some reason
Being a Black person probably helps but female attention actually got better for me when I shaved my head
11 months ago
Anonymous
Your head shape is good, your skin is dark and you can pull of the "bad guy" persona. You're one of the rare exceptions where a bald head doesn't affect your attractiveness too much.
Why do you keep peddling this bs? I think we already established that those are rare side effects if it was prevalent as you like to pretend it is the drug wouldn't be prescribed.
The reason why people shill muh sides against every single popular medicine that works (finasteride, statins, covid vaccine, ozempic) is because they don't want you to succeed where they failed or they are mindless npc repeating what their (Russian) masters dictate.
the reason people shill muh sides against every single popular medicine is because most of them do have side effects. bad side effects. fearful braincels and marketing teams will tell you otherwise.
>is because most of them do have side effects
At a very low incidence, usually single digits and in many cases psychosomatic. Yet people have no issue with smoking, alcohol and obesity despite a MUCH higher incidence of side effects. You've never even heard of risk management, have you? > bad side effects
People have literally died from kissing or by being hit by meteorites before. There's always a chance you're a freak of nature who will literally explode by taking an aspirin.
Do what you need to do to win. But if you feel like you’re losing it’s probably not your hair.
11 months ago
Anonymous
I've been pretty successful this past decade and my hair is looking great (thanks to finasteride). I'm also at my lowest weight yet and starting weight loss medication to finally get me into the normal weight category. Stop being jealous of others and trying to dissuade them from improving their lives.
11 months ago
DADANON
K
11 months ago
Anonymous
>starting weight loss medication >on finasteride
anon, you are taking the easy route with every issue you face.
11 months ago
Anonymous
I'm looking for the most efficient way to achieve what I want.
11 months ago
Anonymous
*easiest
not even losing weight by exercising/diet is pathetic
11 months ago
Anonymous
I've lost over 100lbs so far without medication. Losing the reaming 50lbs until I look great is more difficult so I'm resorting to medications. If internet tough guys don't approve why should I or anyone else for that matter care? All that matters in the end is results.
>risk management >risks everything for hair
fin bros?
11 months ago
Anonymous
Finasteride: 1% risk of mild sexual sides or depression that can be mitigated by dose tilatration (50 years of research behind this)
Being bald: 99% chance of becoming a depressed baldcel or being forced to wear a hat at all times (bald people used to be ridiculed as early as in the Roman Empire)
11 months ago
DADANON
Yeah… that’s why most of the the Roman Emperors were bald…
Ridicule
11 months ago
Anonymous
1% chance life ruined by fin. 1 in 100 doesn't feel so good fin bros.
if you basing life decisions off quotes from the romans you are losing.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>1% chance life ruined by fin
No, 1% chance of mild sexual side effects or depression from fin which either resolves by dose tiltration or failing that, getting off finasteride and waiting three months for sides to resolve. 100% of side effects will resolve as proven by 50 years of research and the CDC reiterating once again this year that there's no persistent side effects on finasteride. The Japanese 10 year follow up study even indicates that finasteride users had a lower incidence of ED than the general male populations. Besides, even if you do get ED (which is pretty common, especially once you get over the age of 40 even without finasteride), you can just take low dose tadalafil and your dick will stay hard until you die of old age.
If you're basing your life decisions off lies about finasteride you're losing.
11 months ago
Anonymous
10 year study is a efficacy study not a safety study. haircafe is a copelet. you are a copelet. you are the one basing your life off of lies about finasteride kek.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>10 year study is a efficacy study not a safety study.
50 years of research and 30 years of human does indicate that finasteride is pretty safe though. >haircafe is a copelet.
You can't refute him so you resort to name-calling.
Stay salty, baldcel loser.
11 months ago
Anonymous
50 years of research why you keep posting the Japan 10 year autist? hair cafe's unwatchable videos are the proof i need he's a moron. all he does it name calling.
stay infertile fincel
11 months ago
Anonymous
>50 years of research
Finasteride has 50 years of research behind it starting with the children observed in the Dominician Republican who lacked 5ar-2 and never lost any hair. Over 30 years, finasteride was released for the general public and has been on the CDC monitor since then. There also were two major 10 year long follow up studies in Japan and Italy where the safety and efficiacy of finasteride was monitored. >hair cafe's unwatchable videos are the proof i need he's a moron
So you don't like him because he makes you angry (presumably because you're bald and he makes fun of people like you). The data he presents is cited in his comments. >stay fertile fincel
I'm pretty fertile, unlike you baldcel.
After all, finasteride does not affect fertility since spermiogenesis can be maintained by testosterone alone.
11 months ago
Anonymous
i pity you. good luck in future.
11 months ago
Anonymous
I don't pity you and thanks.
If you ever feel like not being a loser, watch haircafe's videos.
11 months ago
Anonymous
ok slap monkey.
11 months ago
Anonymous
refute his points than, haircafe(pbuh), btfo anti-fin haters everytime
11 months ago
Anonymous
refute his points than, haircafe(pbuh), btfo anti-fin haters everytime
>first video >hired crisis actors
its so easy anon
>I want you to succeed.
And that's why you post bullshit fearmongering? >But chasing the superficial will never lead you to success.
Says who? Ever heard of the halo effect? Even looking somewhat decent thanks to medications can greatly improve your social, romantic and business life. >Don’t waste your one chance at life.
I'm not, which is why I use everything available to my advantage. That includes technological and medical advancements humanity has provided. >decide to be a man
"JUST SHAVE IT AND STAY FAT BRO"
How about no? A real man is someone who tells internet losers such as yourself to frick off and seeks to achieve success by whateverr means.
Observational data from Sweden at least indicates that men with enlarged prostates who take finasteride or dutasteride lived an average of 5-6 years longer than the average male population. This might be due to DHT's negative effect on your heart, brain and prostate. So you're effectively already taking anti-aging medication.
>Women don’t give a frick.
This so much. I know a 3'2 Indian janitor who has literally zero hair on his head (can grow an EPIC beard down to his knees though) and an ugly deformed skull and face. He's also fat, unhygenic and has rotten teeth. Despite that, he regularly has sex with dozens of blonde 10/10 women at the same time. His trick? CONFIDENCE BRO. Women don't care about looks, money or anything else other than CONFIDENCE BRO.
I hope so. My hair is thick and dense, it would be much easier to maintain bald head. Would change literally nothing if I started balding, for whatever reason decided to have longer hair in my late 20s. Before that had buzzcut.
In the prime of youth, his heart ablaze,
Yet fate played a cruel hand, it seems,
For upon his crown, a grievous haze,
A torment that haunts his very dreams.
Oh, wretched mirror, revealer of truth,
Reflecting the plight he can't deny,
A receding hairline, stark and uncouth,
Silent tears concealed within his eye.
In the tender years of life's grand dance,
He finds himself robbed of his flowing mane,
Like autumn's leaves, in a hapless trance,
His hopes and confidence begin to wane.
No more cascading locks of raven black,
No crown of glory to adorn his head,
A bitter jest, a relentless attack,
As youth's allure slips through fingers spread.
He mourns the loss of his youthful guise,
Once vibrant strands now bid their farewell,
And gazing upon the fading sunrise,
His heart is filled with an anguished knell.
But within this sorrow, a truth awakes,
A deeper beauty that lies unseen,
For character and strength are what makes,
A man's true essence, forever keen.
His spirit, resilient, strong and bold,
Transcends the veil of fleeting disguise,
With wisdom and grace, his worth unfolds,
A soul that shines, though follicles demise.
For beauty resides in his steadfast soul,
In every laugh, every heartfelt smile,
His courage unyielding, makes him whole,
Though fate may take, it can't defile.
So let him weep for the strands once there,
And mourn the loss that time imparts,
But know, dear man, you're beyond compare,
With or without the strands of your heart.
Embrace the change that life's journey brings,
For bald or not, your essence remains,
A poetic spirit that eternally sings,
The tale of a man, where true beauty reigns.
Kind of.
Hairloss is caused by hair follicles sensitivity to DHT which is determined by genetics.
Lifting will increase your testosterone.
Testosterone gets changed to DHT.
So lifting indirectly increases DHT, which might push it to the levels where it causes you to lose hair.
But for vast majority of men this will change nothing, and they would stay hairy/losing hair regardless of lifting.
>just got prescribed fin today >haven’t taken first dose yet
I’ve been reading horror stories ever since I got home from the pharmacy and now I’m scared to take it. People saying they took fin once and it ruined their life?
>just got prescribed fin today >haven’t taken first dose yet
I’ve been reading horror stories ever since I got home from the pharmacy and now I’m scared to take it. People saying they took fin once and it ruined their life?
been there done that. now it's been 3 years and taking fin is like taking a sugar pill in the morning. just take it dont fricking let yourself go bald unless you want to be an incel
I am the target for getting gyno/having sides.
No issue so far after 1 month.
Currently fat. (25-30%).
27, norwood 2 or 3 not sure.
Why do, almost exclusively, White people do this whole self acceptance cope thing after they grey, bald, or age? Do what Black folk, spics, arabs, pajeets, and assorted asiatics do and either stop it before it happens or fake it to you make it. >they lose their hair at 2/3rds the rate and not nearly as early but do something about nonetheless when the issue arrises
I am okay with going bald. I don't really care about women, but I do want my hair until at least 30, 35 or so.
For me, growing older is causing my hair loss. Had super thick hair as a teen, but all my male relatives on one side are bald so I knew it was going to happen.
It's healthier to over accept it.
I won't, but I am happy they are feeling that way rather then incel doom coping.
Go to the r/supplements board and search for "ruined my life". You will find posts about people's lifes supposedly being ruined my meme supplements like creatine or ashwagandha. Besides, if you're not going to take finasteride, balding will ruin your life.
why aren't hair systems/toupees more common? honestly this whole issue would go away if men just swallowed their prides and normalized hair systems. women wear wigs all the time who gives a frick
>gah! If only I knew! If only I listened to bald men on the Internet! Now I've grown breasts and can only cum from getting fricking in the ass! And all from only ONE pill of finasteride and my life is ruined! If only I listened to slapheads!
I wanna start finasteride, but it isn't easy. I can't get a doctor on my insurance to prescribe it, even my derm wouldn't give me fin, they're all scared of getting sued and just say to use minoxidil which I've been using and isn't stopping my hair loss. My only option left is to get it from some bullshit online pharmacy, which I really don't wanna do, but I don't see any other option. Worse yet, I can't get my bloodwork prior to starting fin unless I pay out the ass to some online lab place, like Marek Health. I wanna make sure my androgen to estrogen ratios are alright before I jump into this shit.
No ones getting sued over finasteride since it’s FDA approved therefore doctors can’t be held liable for it. If your doctors happen to be bald boomers, just get a prescription off the internet.
Doctors can be sued for literally anything dude, the fact that it is FDA approved means nothing when there's now all these bullshit suicide warning labels.
>in the US
just use the online pharmacies to get it.
I did that. >my androgen to estrogen
just stop taking it if you get sides.
I am a fat guy who probably has low T. No sides.
I'm concerned about my androgen to estrogen ratios already being off. I'm not fat, but it just concerns me. Blood tests are a good preventative measure, worst case I could take an aromatase inhibitor alongside finasteride. But I don't wanna start it without knowing where i'm
Again, I just wanna know where I'm at. I have good insurance and tons of money, why the frick is this so hard? My only options seems to be paying Derek MorePlatesMoreDates 700 dollars for tests.
>in the US
just use the online pharmacies to get it.
I did that. >my androgen to estrogen
just stop taking it if you get sides.
I am a fat guy who probably has low T. No sides.
Why do, almost exclusively, White people do this whole self acceptance cope thing after they grey, bald, or age? Do what Black folk, spics, arabs, pajeets, and assorted asiatics do and either stop it before it happens or fake it to you make it.
>they lose their hair at 2/3rds the rate and not nearly as early but do something about nonetheless when the issue arrises
White people literally invented all the methods people use to ‘do something about’ it you goddamned moron. Where on earth does this inferiority-superiority complex so many useless minorities have come from these days? Are the schools really that bad?
>Where on earth does this inferiority-superiority complex so many useless minorities have come from these days?
From being brown
>april
How does this fat sheboon have more confidence than me.
you a pussy.
She is too stupid to be introspective. Also you a pussy.
I'm sure you can find plenty of pics with whites who look like that are are just as happy.
That must really freak them out.
Black folk are all bald, pajeets don't go bald, arabs don't care and asiatic life is over after 21 anyway.
Indian men go bald, a friend of mine is Sikh and the first time I saw him with no turban I was shocked at how different he looked.
Sikhs normally go bald from traction alopecia. I'm a Punjabi, and every older guy in my family has a full head of (very long) hair, but the older guys have thin hair that is receded specifically because of tying it up really tight every day
>every guy in my family has a full head of (very long) hair, but the older guys have thin hair
I accidentally put the word "older" in twice. Sorry, I'm literally an ASL pajeet
captcha: S IR5
I’ll let it slide this one time but you better not frick up again
>Why do white people accept reality and move on
Because theres no point getting hung up on it.
Contrary to demoralizes cries, women are still interested
White guys are basically twinks. Twink death is hard to overcome.
In yurop they would be savagely beat for posting cringe in olden times. Alas, it is now not legal to correct them.
That's a rough 28, if he told me he was 48 I wouldn't have blinked.
it should be life fuel for you to workout, eat well, get good sleep and not drink often
What does drinking have to do with balding? I understand excessive drinking can age you more quickly compared to sobriety but not to the degree that balding impacts your appearance. Being an egghead at 28 dries pussies like the sahara unless you have a good face, at which point hair doesn’t matter as much anyway.
my comment was more to do with aging. the guy in the picture looks so old not because he's bald (although it doesn't help) but because of his poor lifestyle choices.
not really, that's just genes, I eat processed goyslop all my life, smoke cigarettes, and didn't touch a weight until 2 years ago and I look 10 years younger than that guy at the same age
I think its the balding + freckling that does it to this guy. People always thought I was much older due to my stature and hairline+goatee. They just thought I looked too much like a man to be late teens early 20s
That's why going bald is a death sentence. No matter your age, you automatically look like a middle-aged schlub. Conversely, all the guys who "age like fine wine" have thick full heads of hair
If you're starting to bald at 40+, you're fine
If you're starting to bald at 30, you're good and it will be a slow process
If you're starting to bald 25, you're in the danger zone but meds can save you still
If you're starting to bald at 20, you're out of luck. Meds might do only so much and you would want to consider a hair transplant
If you're starting to bald 18 or lower, it's over
I don’t think the age really matters in regards to how well treatment will work. A NW3 20yo and a NW3 40yo will respond to treatment the same way. The only difference is the 20 year olds life will be ruined by baldness but it’s pretty normal for a 40yo to lose hair
I'm not so sure of that. Essentially 99% of men have SOME degree of thinning eventually. Even older guys who never go bald still typically thin out or have some recession. Guys like Ronald Reagan are total outliers.
With that in mind, I believe there's a correlation between onset of balding and how aggressive it is. If a guy starts the first signs of slight thinning in his 30s/40s, its probably just a slow gradual thing that will probably stabilize without going full NW7 horseshoe. But the guys who start in their late teens and early 20s? They're the ones who end up going full chrome dome
this post typed by turkish 'medical' hands
Imagine sliding a finger up her butthole bros.
It aint fair, aint no way he got enough for that, shit aint fair
Not sure it causes hair loss. Ive been listing since 2002 and always had a head full of hair. Feel free to join the unofficial /fir/ discord
discord.gg/a9zucXzc4n
why would you want to avoid that?
I'm balding.
Fin + Minox, NOW
How much do you take haha
Fin 1mg a day which is standard. Minox 5% is either taking topically 2 times per day orally once a day, however the oral version could potentially increase your resting heart rate.
My advise would be to start with fin right away and see if it yields any results within the first six months before hopping on min.
Hi sir, why are you taking so much? I take 0.5mg finasteride and 1ml topical minoxidil applied daily at night.
1mg is proving to yield the best results but 0.5mg works as well in most cases. I suffer no side effects so i'm not taking any chances. I don't use minoxidil currently.
you forgot microneedling moron
>you forgot the snakeoil moron
google "microneedling and minoxidil" homosexual
my hair was almost this bad. best advice is get on fin.
my hair has almost grown back entirely. no side effects. i beat off everyday.
there is a point of no return. if you keep waiting the hair thats dormant that might be save able could die off, then you are really fricked.
Can you show me?
I want to know
Can you show me
Heeheehee the irony is this is the song just before Tarzan meets all the people lacking hair
talk to a doctor if you are that scared.
i thought it was bullshit.
first week when I started fin my hairline tingled.
week 3 i started shedding.
2.5 months i started noticing regrowth.
6 months i felt comfortable not wearing a hat.
1.5 years i stopped the shedding entirely.
all i have are high corners, which is a "natural look" for adult men.
my hair is thick and full.
nah im not gonna share photos. 1 idk where the before are, and 2 im tired.
Please sir you're my only hope.
tik tok anon. the dormant hair is dying in your scalp. you either start the perscription or dont.
10k hair inplant plus lifetime supply of fin 10k
VS
lifetime supply of fin is about 10k. its just cheaper to take the pill.
Can you link me?
hair implants become part of your body after therefore you are biological not bald or it's just a sophisticated wig?
you have to understand blood flow. your front of the top of the head doesnt get good blood flow. thats why mens sides and back dont go bald first in most cases.
if you just slap a bunch of new hair on top your gonna have the same issue. the DHT is going to shrik your pores mixed with lack of blood circulation. then boom. bald again. even after implants your still gonna need to pop fin.
so why pay for expensive surgery just to come to the same conclusion that you should take the fin.
Frick off
What's the matter sweetie?
>you have to understand blood flow
literally the one and only cause of balding thats why oral minox can overpower DHT atleast for a while, it increases blood flow so much that not even the reduction of bf from DHT will make the hair die.
Blood flow is a meme that got debunked by hair transplant experiments 50 years ago.
You never stop using minoxidil. And without finasteride/dutasteride the effect only lasts for two years.
Hair implants are transplants of your own healthy hair follicles from the back of your head.
Wtf is that scar tissue on your upper forehead?
alopecia areata?
Looks like acne scars
Mao?
weights do not cause but exacerbate hairloss as it increases test in average by 15-20% now roiders might skew the data so it could be less for natties but it does increase test
>Australian sexpat forced to visit his family in Thailand
XDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
Is this what heaven looks like?
Nope cos he'd still have a full head of hair.
I'm assuming he's their ballet teacher but why doesn't he smile? This video without context is strange.
It's a joke video and he's implying that he doesn't get any respect from those little gremlins despite being their teacher.
giwtwm
ToT
I don't care what anyone says, Asian kids are so cute.
he'd probably look really good with hair, considering he can pull off even this grandpa cut and not look that bad
This guy is actually a legit ballet instructor. Could probably murder with his bare hands like 90% of fit.
The irony of asian culture is that they definitely put more emphasis on looks, but a tall fit bald dude is a fricking Chad over there. It sets you apart, and white men are a huge status symbol for high quality asian women. Not poor bug trash people, women with status and connections.
Guarantee this dude never sleeps alone over there.
Being over 6' and white in Asia will make you a chad assuming you still have your hair. Without your hair you will still only be able to pull 35+ single moms.
>28
>work at local uni
>see students every day in their late teens and early 20s, many obese, many more balding
the gods blessed me with a steady hairline but theres gonna be somehting in the water or something man, this shit aint natural
Bro I used to mock people on IST for balding too. I used to jump into these threads and laugh at the desperation and despair of all the balding and bald anons for YEARS in my 20s... Then I turned 30 and started balding.
Could not believe how bad balding was by early 30s for nearly everyone I went to school with. It’s gotta be like 90% are at least receding. Thank god for /fit. All the balding demoralization threads actually put it on my radar. I realized I was starting to bald and started dermapen and minoxidil and am doing better than nearly everyone my age that I know
Ok just note that derma-rolling and minoxidil won't actually help stop balding. They'll only mask it. The only way to stop the root cause of balding which is DHT killing off your hair follicles slowly is by taking finasteride.
>troon out
no thanks
Ok check back with you on your cueball baldhead in 5 years.
>Ok check back with you on your cueball baldhead in 5 years.
u ok bro?
going bald fricks your libido.
because women arent interested in baldies.
>doesn't know you can just pay them
ngmi
I'm mid 20s, and nearly everyone I knew in school looks worse. Just health wise in general. Balding, loss of muscle for the athletes, most of them are fat. One guy I knew who was relatively lean, decently athletic, is now an absolute bloat lord and buzzes his hair from balding. I was a fatty in school and still could be a lot better (15% bf, and did a good bulk over fall/winter) but I swear I mog most of my former class mates. Even the women look like shit now. The only one I can think of that actually looks better is this weeb girl I went on a few dates with. She was always thin and sickly looking in school but now she at least tries to go to the gym and eat good. What in the frick happened IST?
modern work hours, infrastructure and diet.
Decay starts at 20. After that it’s a battle to maintain yourself.
Guys are getting grey way earlier these days too. I still remember as a kid, grey hair was really rare even in their 40s. Receding hair definitely happened but truly bald seemed rarer.
Nah, balding is the same. When my dad was in the millitary in the 70's, like a half of the guys there already had receding hairlines and they were all 19 or 20. The largest difference from today is that most of these guys already had a wife and a kid tho, so they didn't give a shit about going bald.
those are just engineering students, don't mind them
>many obese, many more balding
I imagine there is a connection if they're obese and balding.
>Is it true that lifting causes hair loss?
No, homosexual
>How does one avoid this?
By not being born with subhuman genetics.
Don't be too wienery... Your turn will come soon enough.
im bald
He'd look badass with a full beard
No he wouldn't. He's got girly eyes.
hairlet cope
unironically looks better. looked like a kid before
He looks like a goddamn unfrickable turd, and you're moronic if you think he looks somehow magically better. Frick your stupid ass for giving false hope to the total dregs of society.
>w*men
>w*men
women are worthless exactly because they want manchildren. and you two have twisted subhuman homosexual brains for taking into account a womans desires. Disgusting.
and now hes not. and he looks better. exactly.
Haha homosexual.
i accept your surrender femboy. now spread ass for PAPA
that guy looks like he lives in the snyderverse
you're looking at it from a male perspective. you think he looks better because he looks more masculine and intimidating, in reality he looks like shit and saying otherwise is a massive cope.
he can't be older than 25 in the second video and if you think girls around his age are into his current look you're just being a moron
lmao I have a bald friend who's 26 and doesn't even have a good looking face and yet I know a cute 19yo who's borderline begging for him to frick her, meanwhile I have a full head of hair and a decent face and I get zero pussy. You gays would find any excuse to avoid admitting that you don't have sex because of your shit personality
you're such a gay Black person that it's not even funny. are you telling me that your friend who's not attractive but most likely has a good personality as in he's funny and charismatic, is able to get girls while you on the other hand can't because you're an autistic homosexual? wow, i'm so surprised you gay c**t
it seems obvious to me too but apparently a lot of morons here don't seem to get it. But don't be mistaken, you are moronic just as much as them for this dumbfrick reply don't ever quote me again you troglodyte
masculine and intimidating are the last words I'd use to describe this doofus
yea because he was obviously a kid before...
archiBALD hahaha ;_;
DAMN that's a downgrade
Getting fat, wearing glasses and doing that weird autism grimace probably doesn't help matters.
fat, bad glasses, untrimmed head, weird picture of self on wall in front of desk
He NEEDS to jack up and sit in the sun. The baldness + youthful immaculate porcelain skin just do not work. It's embrace the truck driver look or bust.
why'd he upload the most depressing looking picture he could find
That's how all your pictures look when you're bald.
I take it the "We all in it together" guy dying his hair didn't help
First guy doesn't even have to be a receding hairline, he could just have been born with a bad one
all normal hairlines for post puberty males
zoomers just normalized broccoli fringes that they don't know what a normal hairline looks like anymore
sometimes I am thinking to myself wether I was unlucky or just very lucky and dumb. Do boys at the age of 17 think about these things nowadays? I was a moron at his age, thinking about exams and generally being oblivious to all these things. I dont think I started thinking about balding before the age of 23. My first reall attempts at improving my looks were after I started my first real job (24 yo). Am I tardy?
Zoomers are terminally online.
I don't mind bald people but don't be so fricking pathetic and pitiful about it, Jesus Christ.
CALGON TAKE ME AWAY
that homie ain't even balding
Balding is the worst thing that can happen to a man other than some sort of debilitating chronic disease or disfiguring accident.
You essentially die socially. Nobody respects a baldo and everybody can see through your pathetic cope like the delusional baldo in this webm. I'll take the fricking finasteride every day rather than suffer from the social suicide from balding.
what kind of social circles are you in that being bald would impair you?
the human one
Elaborate. I get the feeling you have no friends and are very out of touch with the real world.
>OMG what if stacy calls me a freacking crapfricking BALD!!!!! OH SHIT!!!!!!!
nvm you gays are thoroughly socialized. worthless.
That guy complains about hair while he grew a beard to compensate.
What is this moronic modern idea that growing a beard is a or some targeted decision that you're making in the same way that women wear makeup for example? Men just naturally grow beards. If anything shaving is more of a conscious choice, you have to upkeep a shaven face every few days. Why am I being looked at as a coping homosexual for simply letting the hair on my face grow normally as men have done for millenia and was the norm up until the past 100 years or so?
Plaque grows on your teeth constantly, doesn't mean you shouldn't remove it at least once a day.
No, it doesn't, plaque only forms from sugary and starchy foods. Also plaque is harmful to your body and a beard isn't.
No but they look unclean and feel disgusting just like sweat or any other kind of buildup.
It is and always was beardlets being mad af about their shitty beardgenetics. Everywhere I go, people love my beard. Even girls that dont go for bearded guys love it.
Bald harry styles still looks levels more attractive than 1stman.
cos he's been given an artificially large bald egghead
That guy is coping
Guys like this are becoming the new onions boy 2.0
terminally online, ngmi off anything.
He’s not wrong, when I was young I looked like shit, I was flabby and overweight, I acted like an butthole, but I had beautiful natural curly hair and girls in highschool, especially black girls, would give me tons of attention and let me smash just to play with it. Now I’m bald and fit and I gotta say being fit has about the same effect with women as having good hair.
Oh I didn’t actually read your post I just watched the webm, bro you’re a moron, losing my hair was like losing a cheat code that you never needed to beat the game anyway. I’ve been shaving my head since I was 20 and I’ve never had trouble with women or seen any negative outcomes cause of being bald, hell I’ve had a lot of positive social interactions that stemmed from being bald.
Just Kys bro, the fin isn’t going to fix your problem.
Baldlet cope. Post your cueball head coward.
>bald, patchy facial fuzz, round and bloated face
head like a lonely testicle
I christen thee 'scrotemode'
>Is it true that lifting causes hair loss?
Protein shakes, creatine and keto do. Lifting, possibly if you do powerlifting.
Creatine balding is so legit
There’s so much science on this
It’s like poison for your body and hair
Jk, my man can you post the study that convinced you for certain that creatine causes balding?
>muh studies
The fitness-industrial complex won't allow such studies to be published, too much money to make with creatine.
I just go by observation.
hes a professional anus inspector in china. essential for any dance school there
It doesnt "cause" it, but if hairloss is in your genetics, then its going to speed up
The rise in DHT from exercise is only temporary and too low to matter.
brutal pic.
He says he loves being bald and shaving his head like it's his choice lmao.
Yeah how else are you gonna cope? You can't grow back the hair once you go bald.
I wouldn't comment on it at all.
He basically looks like picrel kek.
Makes sense to me. He doesn't have to shave it, its his choice whether to have a horseshoe or not, and choice is not a factor in loving something.
Will AI help me get back my hairline?
https://scitechdaily.com/hair-regeneration-ai-helps-design-baldness-treatment-that-works-better-than-testosterone-or-minoxidil/
Yes because of increased androgens and what will help you with that for a large part is DHT-blockers such as Dutasteride, Finasteride, Saw Palmetto, Rosemary, etc.
>Saw Palmetto, Rosemary
Natural DHT blockers do jack shit with the miniscule amount that they block. Might as well just eat saw dust.
Natural DHT blockers either don't block enough scalp DHT to matter or they only block 5ar type 1 which doesn't affect the balding process at all.
just troon out, E and fin will save ya
why is there some dude pretending to be a moronic an indian itt
What's your fricking problem man?
oral fin will make you troon out unless you do topical fin+min
anyone who does minox, when you stop using it, does the hair that's grown back stay or does it thin/fall out?
Falls out rapidly, minoxidil is some looney tunes shit and only works for 50% of men
Does it work for you? How do you deal with your balding sir?
Finasteride and prayers
Take just fin for 1 year starting both is a bad idea, you could be a non responder to min whilst fin is giving you regrowth, you'll have no idea if min does anything and you'll be putting in on your head afraid to stop for the rest of your life when it might do nothing
Have you tried minoxidil before sir?
Nope, I want to see what fin alone does for a few years before I even consider min, if I use both I have no idea what's doing what
NTA, I’ve been on it for about 2-3 weeks? About to start fin and I’m wondering if I should drop it and just go on fin so I can accurately see the results, will it frick up my hair or is that not long enough to see any results?
Yeah normally folks take finasteride for a year first in order to see what actually works.
If you're taking both at the same time from the start then you don't if it's the finasteride or minoxidil helping you if you see any results.
Thanks, I’ll drop it for now then
imagine the smell
I always wondered if 2/3 men experience balding why aren't toupee shops all over the place
Cos it takes skill to apply them and the market has been cornered by a few barbers that charge exorbitant prices for it.
Clever hiding his jaw with the mask to make the transformation look more impressive.
Guy looked better bald. Its like the squinting and pouting made him more handsome, then once he started smiling and opening his eyes he looked chubbier and goofier. Maybe that squintmaxxing shit has some truth to it.
These hair system webms are moronic all moronic as frick. All of these guys lets their hair on the sides grow out to match the system, so of course they look like this.
Most would look similarly attractive actually bald.
This guy would look significantly better bald in fact
how much does this cost generally, initial cost+upkeep for the year?
most men have enough dignity not to do this to themselves
men don't obsess over looks nearly as much as women
>men don't obsess over looks nearly as much as women
>this entire board exists
Adding to what this anon said (
), toupees are a Giffen good. The reason the market got cornered by a small number of barbers is BECAUSE they charge huge prices. People soon developed the perception that an expensive toupee is good, and a cheap toupee is bad, even though you're paying for the exact same product. The people who manufacture toupees know this, and increased their prices accordingly. This means that any barber who wants to enter the toupee market has to deal with the enormous financial barrier to entry.
I look good either way.
lmao sure thing baldo
the hilarious thing about baldo cope is that you can smell it reeking through the posts even without any pics
>finasteride side effects
>inability to have or maintain an erection.
decreased sexual desire.
problems with ejaculation (including decreased volume of ejaculate)
pain in the testicles.
depression.
So you get a few hairs back but your penis doesn't work anymore, your balls hurt, you lose interest in sex, and you become depressed
The worst possible side effect for minox is worsened hair loss
Take your pick
Personally I'd stay far away from finasteride but that's just me
Also minox kills cats so if you use minox products don't rub any on your cat or anywhere the cat might lick
I took the covid vaccine 3 times and an spiring dozens of times. According to muh sides effects I should've died several times over so since I'm seemingly immortal and invulnerable, I don't have to worry about side effects.
To add to that, the side effects of being bald include depression (due to being bald), low confidence (due to ridicule by others), sexlessness (because women don't like baldies), low libido (due to depression) and ed (due to depression). It's not like the choice is between finasteride or looking like Jason Statham, is it?
WAHHHHHHH SOMETHING MY ENTIRE FAMILY TREE DEALT WITH IS DESTROYING ME WAHHHHHH. ngmi
Society has evolved and women have more freedoms than ever before which means they can (and will) select against bald men. Why accept a handicap like that when you can just take finasteride and stop DHT from ravaging your hair, prostate, hair and brain (there's increasing evidence that blocking 5AR-2 gives you a longevity advantage)?
>women have more freedoms
maybe they will select against bald men if those bald men are snivelling wrecks because muh hair. finasteride has worse side effects than hair loss. grow up. ignore black pillers.
>finasteride has worse side effects than hair loss.
Side effects are rare and can be mitigated by either powering through (don't be a b***h) or lowering the dose. As long as you have hair, you maintain your vitality. Without your hair, you'll just look like a diseased animal and women will avoid you like the plague. The only reason why you're shilling against finasteride is because you're bald and want other people to be as miserable as you.
fear and insecurity makes you unattractive. keep being 'men' with your cope (your grandfather didn't need drugs to get pussy).
When you have hairline like pic rel don't fricking desperately cling to it and just shave it. You will look much better. Why keep something that makes you look 40 years older?
he would look fine shaved bald you just gave him an ugly conehead for some reason
Being a Black person probably helps but female attention actually got better for me when I shaved my head
Your head shape is good, your skin is dark and you can pull of the "bad guy" persona. You're one of the rare exceptions where a bald head doesn't affect your attractiveness too much.
https://www.newsweek.com/bald-white-men-less-attractive-hair-black-difference-psychology-study-1642260
homies lucky when it comes to balding also you kinda look like a model
Meeks is that you?
Just keep grinding?
Why do you keep peddling this bs? I think we already established that those are rare side effects if it was prevalent as you like to pretend it is the drug wouldn't be prescribed.
The reason why people shill muh sides against every single popular medicine that works (finasteride, statins, covid vaccine, ozempic) is because they don't want you to succeed where they failed or they are mindless npc repeating what their (Russian) masters dictate.
the reason people shill muh sides against every single popular medicine is because most of them do have side effects. bad side effects. fearful braincels and marketing teams will tell you otherwise.
>is because most of them do have side effects
At a very low incidence, usually single digits and in many cases psychosomatic. Yet people have no issue with smoking, alcohol and obesity despite a MUCH higher incidence of side effects. You've never even heard of risk management, have you?
> bad side effects
People have literally died from kissing or by being hit by meteorites before. There's always a chance you're a freak of nature who will literally explode by taking an aspirin.
Do what you need to do to win. But if you feel like you’re losing it’s probably not your hair.
I've been pretty successful this past decade and my hair is looking great (thanks to finasteride). I'm also at my lowest weight yet and starting weight loss medication to finally get me into the normal weight category. Stop being jealous of others and trying to dissuade them from improving their lives.
K
>starting weight loss medication
>on finasteride
anon, you are taking the easy route with every issue you face.
I'm looking for the most efficient way to achieve what I want.
*easiest
not even losing weight by exercising/diet is pathetic
I've lost over 100lbs so far without medication. Losing the reaming 50lbs until I look great is more difficult so I'm resorting to medications. If internet tough guys don't approve why should I or anyone else for that matter care? All that matters in the end is results.
>risk management
>risks everything for hair
fin bros?
Finasteride: 1% risk of mild sexual sides or depression that can be mitigated by dose tilatration (50 years of research behind this)
Being bald: 99% chance of becoming a depressed baldcel or being forced to wear a hat at all times (bald people used to be ridiculed as early as in the Roman Empire)
Yeah… that’s why most of the the Roman Emperors were bald…
Ridicule
1% chance life ruined by fin. 1 in 100 doesn't feel so good fin bros.
if you basing life decisions off quotes from the romans you are losing.
>1% chance life ruined by fin
No, 1% chance of mild sexual side effects or depression from fin which either resolves by dose tiltration or failing that, getting off finasteride and waiting three months for sides to resolve. 100% of side effects will resolve as proven by 50 years of research and the CDC reiterating once again this year that there's no persistent side effects on finasteride. The Japanese 10 year follow up study even indicates that finasteride users had a lower incidence of ED than the general male populations. Besides, even if you do get ED (which is pretty common, especially once you get over the age of 40 even without finasteride), you can just take low dose tadalafil and your dick will stay hard until you die of old age.
If you're basing your life decisions off lies about finasteride you're losing.
10 year study is a efficacy study not a safety study. haircafe is a copelet. you are a copelet. you are the one basing your life off of lies about finasteride kek.
>10 year study is a efficacy study not a safety study.
50 years of research and 30 years of human does indicate that finasteride is pretty safe though.
>haircafe is a copelet.
You can't refute him so you resort to name-calling.
Stay salty, baldcel loser.
50 years of research why you keep posting the Japan 10 year autist? hair cafe's unwatchable videos are the proof i need he's a moron. all he does it name calling.
stay infertile fincel
>50 years of research
Finasteride has 50 years of research behind it starting with the children observed in the Dominician Republican who lacked 5ar-2 and never lost any hair. Over 30 years, finasteride was released for the general public and has been on the CDC monitor since then. There also were two major 10 year long follow up studies in Japan and Italy where the safety and efficiacy of finasteride was monitored.
>hair cafe's unwatchable videos are the proof i need he's a moron
So you don't like him because he makes you angry (presumably because you're bald and he makes fun of people like you). The data he presents is cited in his comments.
>stay fertile fincel
I'm pretty fertile, unlike you baldcel.
After all, finasteride does not affect fertility since spermiogenesis can be maintained by testosterone alone.
i pity you. good luck in future.
I don't pity you and thanks.
If you ever feel like not being a loser, watch haircafe's videos.
ok slap monkey.
refute his points than, haircafe(pbuh), btfo anti-fin haters everytime
>first video
>hired crisis actors
its so easy anon
No.
I want you to succeed. But chasing the superficial will never lead you to success.
Don’t waste your one chance at life.
Reach down, squeeze your fricking nuts, decide to be a man, and act appropriately.
Stop being a fricking b***h.
>I want you to succeed.
And that's why you post bullshit fearmongering?
>But chasing the superficial will never lead you to success.
Says who? Ever heard of the halo effect? Even looking somewhat decent thanks to medications can greatly improve your social, romantic and business life.
>Don’t waste your one chance at life.
I'm not, which is why I use everything available to my advantage. That includes technological and medical advancements humanity has provided.
>decide to be a man
"JUST SHAVE IT AND STAY FAT BRO"
How about no? A real man is someone who tells internet losers such as yourself to frick off and seeks to achieve success by whateverr means.
It's a a pill that's 15 bucks at most. I'm not trying to reverse aging here.
Observational data from Sweden at least indicates that men with enlarged prostates who take finasteride or dutasteride lived an average of 5-6 years longer than the average male population. This might be due to DHT's negative effect on your heart, brain and prostate. So you're effectively already taking anti-aging medication.
Shave yousrelf, moron, you look 58.
So… I feel sorry for this guy…
Im 39, married with one kid and one on the way. My wife is seven years younger. I’ve been balding since 25. Met my wife at age 32.
Women don’t give a frick. Be a real man. Be with something. Stop caring about superficial things so much
>Women don’t give a frick.
This so much. I know a 3'2 Indian janitor who has literally zero hair on his head (can grow an EPIC beard down to his knees though) and an ugly deformed skull and face. He's also fat, unhygenic and has rotten teeth. Despite that, he regularly has sex with dozens of blonde 10/10 women at the same time. His trick? CONFIDENCE BRO. Women don't care about looks, money or anything else other than CONFIDENCE BRO.
comparing a literal troglodyte to yourself shows your gay insecurity that repels women like shit on a stick anon.
>How does one avoid this?
Don't have shit genetics. I've been lifting since 2007 and I've been roiding since 2016, and I'm not bald.
I used to make fun of people on IST for balding too. Then I turned 30 and started balding.
Karma. You got what you deserve.
t. 34 yo and still not balding
Your time will come soon my friend.
I hope so. My hair is thick and dense, it would be much easier to maintain bald head. Would change literally nothing if I started balding, for whatever reason decided to have longer hair in my late 20s. Before that had buzzcut.
Yes.
Lifting implies roids and roids cause balding.
Insane
Meanwhile pic rel is a 43 year old man
Lament of a balding man:
In the prime of youth, his heart ablaze,
Yet fate played a cruel hand, it seems,
For upon his crown, a grievous haze,
A torment that haunts his very dreams.
Oh, wretched mirror, revealer of truth,
Reflecting the plight he can't deny,
A receding hairline, stark and uncouth,
Silent tears concealed within his eye.
In the tender years of life's grand dance,
He finds himself robbed of his flowing mane,
Like autumn's leaves, in a hapless trance,
His hopes and confidence begin to wane.
No more cascading locks of raven black,
No crown of glory to adorn his head,
A bitter jest, a relentless attack,
As youth's allure slips through fingers spread.
He mourns the loss of his youthful guise,
Once vibrant strands now bid their farewell,
And gazing upon the fading sunrise,
His heart is filled with an anguished knell.
But within this sorrow, a truth awakes,
A deeper beauty that lies unseen,
For character and strength are what makes,
A man's true essence, forever keen.
His spirit, resilient, strong and bold,
Transcends the veil of fleeting disguise,
With wisdom and grace, his worth unfolds,
A soul that shines, though follicles demise.
For beauty resides in his steadfast soul,
In every laugh, every heartfelt smile,
His courage unyielding, makes him whole,
Though fate may take, it can't defile.
So let him weep for the strands once there,
And mourn the loss that time imparts,
But know, dear man, you're beyond compare,
With or without the strands of your heart.
Embrace the change that life's journey brings,
For bald or not, your essence remains,
A poetic spirit that eternally sings,
The tale of a man, where true beauty reigns.
Shut the frick up and give me back my hairline you homosexual.
he looks 40. how is he 28
what being bald does to a mf
Fricking hell, I just remembered a kid in high school that looked like him, but he at least had hair.
Needs to cut weight.
I am muttmaxxed, no issue here. They look like they are having fun.
He doesn't look like he loves being bald
That guy looks pretty handsome actually, just needs to lose weight to bring out his jaw.
Kind of.
Hairloss is caused by hair follicles sensitivity to DHT which is determined by genetics.
Lifting will increase your testosterone.
Testosterone gets changed to DHT.
So lifting indirectly increases DHT, which might push it to the levels where it causes you to lose hair.
But for vast majority of men this will change nothing, and they would stay hairy/losing hair regardless of lifting.
No it doesn't.
how to prevent hairloss? avoid being fat? other inflammatory things?
No but steroids definitely can.
God bless finasteride
Honestly not that b-
>28
HOLY SHIT
Finasteride fricked up my sleeping what to do? Losing my hair super fast at 28 and i lost all my confidense.
Woke up out of breath 2-3 times in night when on fin and in the morning couldnt get out of bed cause i felt so exhausted.
homie you just got the flu
Welp I guess you should fricking go bald.
Are you on that Chinese dark market "finasteride" or something? Those logically aren't even possible side effects.
no way in hell is he 28
Probably also alcoholic
This is the power of losing your hair. You instantly look 10-20 years older than you really are.
Any man affected by MPB who is not taking finasteride or dutasteride is setting himself up for this shitty future.
The bad skin and fatness ages him more than the lack of hair.
>just got prescribed fin today
>haven’t taken first dose yet
I’ve been reading horror stories ever since I got home from the pharmacy and now I’m scared to take it. People saying they took fin once and it ruined their life?
>People saying they took fin once and it ruined their life?
Seething NW 5's say that.
you will be unhappy either way. if you take, you get sides, will get angry at IST. if you don't take, you'll get balder, get angry at IST.
I was there too, but ultimately you must do it. You will be fine.
Watch the last min of this, save your hair https://youtu.be/1ysGYRSYF6A?t=1741
based mann poster
m8 just take it and dont worry, you will be fine
been there done that. now it's been 3 years and taking fin is like taking a sugar pill in the morning. just take it dont fricking let yourself go bald unless you want to be an incel
I am the target for getting gyno/having sides.
No issue so far after 1 month.
Currently fat. (25-30%).
27, norwood 2 or 3 not sure.
I am okay with going bald. I don't really care about women, but I do want my hair until at least 30, 35 or so.
For me, growing older is causing my hair loss. Had super thick hair as a teen, but all my male relatives on one side are bald so I knew it was going to happen.
It's healthier to over accept it.
I won't, but I am happy they are feeling that way rather then incel doom coping.
I'm 20, been taking fin for nearly a year. No sides. Maybe I'll go off it when I'm older but I'm too young to lose the hair.
When you're older, you definitely want to stay on finasteride because DHT destroys your prostate even harder than it does your hair follicles.
Go to the r/supplements board and search for "ruined my life". You will find posts about people's lifes supposedly being ruined my meme supplements like creatine or ashwagandha. Besides, if you're not going to take finasteride, balding will ruin your life.
https://www.reddit.com/r/TrueOffMyChest/comments/rsp6x1/balding_so_young_ruined_my_life_i_feel_like_my/
https://www.reddit.com/r/tressless/comments/izqzh8/balding_has_literally_ruined_my_life/
https://www.reddit.com/r/offmychest/comments/nbrfyt/hairloss_ruined_my_life_before_it_even_began/
https://www.reddit.com/r/TrueOffMyChest/comments/s5vipr/extreme_early_pattern_baldness_ruined_my_life_and/
https://www.reddit.com/r/bald/comments/34pz96/going_bald_and_shaving_my_head_has_ruined_my/
>mate tells me creatine is "da shit" and that I'm missing out by not taking it since it has no side effects
>went to Turkey last year
Your friend is vacationing in foreign countries and you're shitposting on a "fitness" forum
>vacationing
l m a o
>vacationing
does he knows?
yeah bro I'm sure out of all the countries in the world his friend choose fricking turkey for a vacation
jfl
I don't follow. Is he getting hair plugs or is it something gay or what?
>26
>perfect hair
>the worst facial hair ever
it's a trade off
Don't count your chickens before they hatch.
I'd be fine if it is actually a trade off
If I lose my head hair and still can't grow something nice on my face I will probably be very unhappy
First of all, he should close the fridge more often, deal with the "elephant in the room" so to say
Would drinking beer for its estrogenic effects help reduce dht and thus stave off hair loss?
Finasteride/minoxidil/dermarolling has made a big difference for me
Your hair is too light colored, I doubt you've been on finasteride+minoxidil for long or have started it at all.
>naturally blond men don't exist
Beard growth is the least of your worries when your face is shaped like you've never heard of the word "exercise"
why aren't hair systems/toupees more common? honestly this whole issue would go away if men just swallowed their prides and normalized hair systems. women wear wigs all the time who gives a frick
Because it’s like men wearing makeup because they’re ugly. It feminizes an insecurity in a way that shaving or taking a pill doesn’t.
It feminizes an insecurity in a way that taking a pill or shaving it off doesn’t. It’s like a man wearing makeup because he’s ugly.
why do you think every aristocrat wore powdered wigs for 300 years anon
>tfw allergic to fin
I have a fricking rash on my face and it's painful to swallow. Why did I fall for this meme internet marketing campaign?
>gah! If only I knew! If only I listened to bald men on the Internet! Now I've grown breasts and can only cum from getting fricking in the ass! And all from only ONE pill of finasteride and my life is ruined! If only I listened to slapheads!
You‘re allergic to lactate in the pills, not finasteride itself. Try a different brand.
I wanna start finasteride, but it isn't easy. I can't get a doctor on my insurance to prescribe it, even my derm wouldn't give me fin, they're all scared of getting sued and just say to use minoxidil which I've been using and isn't stopping my hair loss. My only option left is to get it from some bullshit online pharmacy, which I really don't wanna do, but I don't see any other option. Worse yet, I can't get my bloodwork prior to starting fin unless I pay out the ass to some online lab place, like Marek Health. I wanna make sure my androgen to estrogen ratios are alright before I jump into this shit.
Anyone have any ideas? I'm in the US
No ones getting sued over finasteride since it’s FDA approved therefore doctors can’t be held liable for it. If your doctors happen to be bald boomers, just get a prescription off the internet.
Doctors can be sued for literally anything dude, the fact that it is FDA approved means nothing when there's now all these bullshit suicide warning labels.
I'm concerned about my androgen to estrogen ratios already being off. I'm not fat, but it just concerns me. Blood tests are a good preventative measure, worst case I could take an aromatase inhibitor alongside finasteride. But I don't wanna start it without knowing where i'm
Taking an actual aromatase inhibitor is bad for your health. Better supplement with zinc instead.
Again, I just wanna know where I'm at. I have good insurance and tons of money, why the frick is this so hard? My only options seems to be paying Derek MorePlatesMoreDates 700 dollars for tests.
>in the US
just use the online pharmacies to get it.
I did that.
>my androgen to estrogen
just stop taking it if you get sides.
I am a fat guy who probably has low T. No sides.
Just go bald you fricking loser.