Is it true that people who work out more are, on average, dumber? I’m starting to notice I don’t see very many fit doctors, businessmen, entrepreneurs, etc
What explains this?
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Is it true that people who work out more are, on average, dumber?
All the vocations you listed are huge time sinks, of course most wouldn't have time for exercise
This is the answer. Except for maybe entrepreneur (depending on time period) all the people OP mentioned work at least 50-60hrs per week.
I am an aerospace engineer and bench 275 for reps.
>I am an aerospace engineer
thats really cool man thanks for telling us
You’re welcome, thank you
>I am an aerospace engineer and bench 275 for reps.
Thanks for proving OP
More like nepotism
The beauty and wonder of the human body is far more worth admiring or being proud of than memorizing some random nonsense.
Some mouth breather anon will soon post an image of a Greek quote about scholars/warriors while thinking he’s dunking on OP but he’s too dumb to actually understand the quote, it’s relevance, and can’t think for himself
So tell us guppy, what does the quote “ackshully” mean?
It means going to the gym doesnt make you a "badass warrior"
But "knowing fun facts" instead does. Go ahead, tell me one.
Nobody said that it does. Are you actually moronic?
Opposed to the same tweet that gets posted thinking learning Choctaw, reading Def Jam poetry, or knowing how many time Harry Potter used his wands is better.
It's not uncommon for doctors to joke about how unhealthy they are, any of the doctor youtubers out there will have addressed how little sleep they get, how unhealthy their diet is and how long they work. They know that if they lifted and slept better they'd be better off.
this man is a deceiver and lair, the Socrates quote comes from Aristotle recalling a conversation he had with one of his students. intellectual thought originates from post gym conversations.
What a horribly written sentence.
>it's relevance
says the mid-wit who has no idea how to use a comma
>Reading a poem makes you smart and interesting
Woman tier intelligence
would you like to hear a fun fact? I hope you're a marvel fan!
You don't see many fit people of any occupation though besides those specifically related to fitness.
Also
>Doctors, businessmen, entrepreneurs
>Smart
lmao.
Find a random doctor, entrepreneur, and businessmen, and find a random human in the DMV - the average intelligence gap between the two is going to be something like
>Alien sage who has outpaced us intellectually by millennia, and caveman whose weak and frail banging of a stick on the sage's alien windshield cannot and will never scratch its surface
It's not even funny how dumb the statistical human average is, and it's easy to forget if you're a nerd that 6 out of 10 Americans graduated high school and that was the end of their education for life.
>you have to be smart to be a doctor
>I don’t see very many fit doctors, businessmen, entrepreneurs
I'd say it's about 50/50.
everyone on fit is extremely smart though. and as for careers, everyone here is a doctor, lawyer, programmer, software engineer, or entrepreneur as well.
Actually, I'm a mathematician and have an IQ of 165.
i shuck oysters for a living, am i a clever boy?
I plugged in some writings here into an IQ estimator and I came back with an average IQ of 125. Most of the people here are obviously more intelligent than an average person they're just mentally ill
most of the posts with 0 replies are written by actual moronic people
it comes with the package I guess... the most brilliant minds of our times were often riddled with mental Illnesses
>Tesla
>Beethoven
>Kant
>Nietzsche
>Mozart
>Michelangelo
>Einstein
and so on
>Tesla
dude elon's not crazy, you just don't get it dude
I was obviously talking about Nikola Tesla you moron-pretender
>doctors, businessmen, entrepreneurs
It's a free time thing lol. People don't realize what doctor's working hours are like, it's never just a 40 hour week. Same goes for the others - being an entrepreneur takes a lot of sacrifice, the downside to being the boss is the amount of your own time and resources you need to give up if you wanna succeed
>t. Have good friends who are docs and businessmen
Kek most of them are obvious liars but I am genuinely a software engineer. It's an easy career to stay fit in - great working hours with just a 40 hour week, the chance to work from home a few days a week (which means doing less work lol), and while it's very mentally draining you're never physically tired after work as you would be in manual labour. If you're committed to fitness it's a great career choice. The reason many are skinnygays/fatties is that they're autists who do nothing but play vidya when they're not at work
yes, everyone is larping as a software engineer except you, and what a surprise you also have many friends who are geniuses too.
you realize going to (a good) uni means that you meet a lot of smart people? Anyone who went to a decent uni will know at least one person who made it in one of those fields
I always found it interesting the people who claim to be educated and have a degree are the most vocal about student loan forgiveness.
You think they would know how to pay it off themselves.
Maybe because they understand education should be free for numerous reasons, and arent brainwashed by the 1% who so desperately dont want to pay higher taxes.
>I google linear algebra online course.
>About 30,700,000 results (0.39 seconds)
>I click on this one https://www.khanacademy.org/math/linear-algebra
>I learn the one more math class I needed for a math minor for free just to dunk on u
Wish me luck anons! My math is a bit rusty.
linalg is easy and fun, has lots of applications to cool stuff like graphics. you got this mathbro
FRICK linear algebra. But I lub me calculus
Universities are not supposed to be factories that churn out wageslaves for the labour market
I'm privileged enough that my dad paid for college and I want student loan forgiveness, uni is a fricked up scam designed to entrap young people and keep them in debt slavery, forgiveness is the simplest short term answer until the greater problem can be solved.
Anecdotally i've noticed fit people are usually smarter. Getting fit is about discipline just as any skill is, so more successful people tend to care about their fitness and appearance more.
I don’t understand why people think that type of debt should be forgiven but not the others. This isn’t a whataboutism by the way. Why is 200k in student loan debt different in any way? If you want to give the whole country 200k off their debts whatever they may be, fine, but just doing student loan debt is moronic.
Because education should be free. It shouldnt be gatekept behind paywalls, are you moronic?
It is free in America. A third of people graduate debt free since the scholarships are so generous and easy to get plus tax is really low.
In the UK (where I'm from) basically no-one gets a scholarship. I graduated HS val from a single mother NEET home and only got 33% off lol and tax is moderately higher.
Alternatively there is the European option of not paying for uni but getting taxed to death.
The USA has the best system in terms of what you actually pay (both in cost of college and extra taxes) by a huge margin.
I don't believe the scholarship statistic for a second. Having actually lived here I knew a select few people who went to college for free and it was because they had harvard or MIT level grades but chose to go to a much less prestigious school instead. This was also over 10 years ago when things were less competitive than they are now. Where are you getting that statistic from?
Saw it years ago but it's clear nothing has changed. Tonnes of websites throw up the same results and if you use the Harvard/MIT cost calculators it does indeed show you pay pretty much nothing if you're from a poor family.
It is fairly well known that the better colleges have better scholarship opportunities in the USA to be honest and you can easily verify it on their websites.
this doesn't say anything about scholarships, this says people who have student loan debt currently. I'm sorry but you don't really know what you're talking about, the other 35% are mostly people's parents paying for college I can guarantee you. Scholarships are common in the US in the same way nobody buys a car at sticker price but I know very few people who got a full ride scholarship, a fully paid scholarship is extremely rare.
Propaganda
Yeah you know what I just can't be bothered. I'm a valedictorian in the UK and have plenty of accomplished American friends, this shocked me when I first heard it since all I'd seen was people posting about 200k debts on reddit but they all said it's true as well then of course you can see it on the Harvard and MIT websites.
Whether you know anyone who got a full ride is obviously going to be dependent on your social circle.
okay well no shit they're getting scholarships if they're valedictorians, that's a tiny minority of people, not 35% of people.
You realise even this isn't normal? In the UK I got £50k of debt as a val from a welfare claiming single mum. Basically no-one gets them here and many people here genuinely believe poor valedictorians in the USA just can't afford to go to uni without taking out private loans from a bank.
Regardless it clearly isn't just valedictorians who get it. Most the scholarship calculators don't take into account class rank it is all exclusively means tested. Of course there is also military and sport routes.
American system is dreamy if you're poor and want the opportunity for individual prosperity and success, as well as upward social mobility for oneself and their children, achieved through hard work in a capitalist society with few barriers.
If you want to go to some shit college and rely on others funding it through tax then yeah Europe is better.
Because higher education is a fricking scam that everyone is very strongly pressured in to. You take a 200k loan for a house and it's worth it because you have a house. Take 200k for "education" and you get what? A worthless piece of paper? They shouldn't have been handing those loans out like candy in the first place, it's basically a trick to trap young people into debt slavery.
Also frick the israelites and their banks. Charging any interest whatsoever on loans is evil and wrong. Frick usurers.
Oh and also because you cannot get out of that debt, you can't declare bankruptcy from it. You can declare bankruptcy and free yourself from any other debts though. So that's reason enough why their should be student loan debt forgiveness but other debts not as much (though 2bh there should be periodic debt forgiveness jubilees abolishing ALL owed debt for everyone).
I don't know how you grew up but the high school I went to in the USA was basically a giant advertisement to go to uni, if you didn't go to uni you were considered a loser, the other students would think you'd be a burnout in life, the teachers would think you're a loser, kids would chant the name of the local community college at the senior class as an insult. The community college thing is the most fricked up part because if I could do anything differently it would have been to take all of my first 2 years of general ed classes at a community college and then transfer to a uni to save like fricking $40,000.
Unis meanwhile are a giant scam that don't do their job as learning institutions or even training institutions to put good skilled laborers out into the world. It is far too common for someone to go to uni, get a degree, and then just do nothing with it and rot because transitioning from degree to first job is by far the hardest part, and a degree merely serves as a minimum requirement to filter out poors despite the fact that for most skilled labor you're using 10% of what you learned in uni or less. This is because the goal of a uni isn't to do any of this, the goal of a uni is to work for its own profit and create debt slaves, so they're motivated to force students to take useless classes or intentionally make certain required courses nearly impossible to take. I literally had to ask for knowledge around the block to go to the dean and get a night class substituted personally by him for one of my required classes because it was only offered at fricking 2PM on a Wednesday and it filled up to its 30 person limit within hours of being made available every semester. Like what the frick? Tell me that's not intentionally trying to stop people from graduating.
It is a fricked up system to keep the poors down and to keep the system of inherited wealth going on for as long as possible.
College on average gives a huge boost to lifetime incomes in the USA
College is the best option IF you're actually able to get into and graduate from a selective/prestigious one instead of fricking about at some low ranked one for a few years then dropping out. If you can only get into a shitty one then yeah maybe better to do something else.
yeah I have a degree and I don't regret it because I'm making lots of money doing relatively easy shit. But I know a lot of people who do regret it because going to college wasn't the right path in life for them, but it was pushed onto them throughout their entire adolescense so they didn't really have an ability to make a correct choice. Nobody told them they could make a decent living in blue collar work even though that's clearly what they preferred, lots of these dropouts went on to be mechanics or some shit and love their jobs.
This happens in the UK as well. People who barely passed the 18yo exams going to uni when they clearly aren't suited to it unless something changes then not being able to get a decent job afterwards and complaining it.
I think the best thing is just to stop people who barely passed HS getting the federal loans and putting serious regulations on the private loans. They're looking to do something very similar in the UK since huge amounts of people were earning frick all and not paying back any of their debt
Why do Americans despise community college so much?
Because they suck.
If you transfer to finish at a full university, they're great (all the prestige, half the price), but:
>If you wanna do research, they don't support that, so if you want to get a PhD they're damaging your odds of getting into a good program
>They have an association with educational burnouts who don't actually transfer and poor people who can't afford a full four year degree
>They don't have an on-campus culture like a 4 year university does, so no dorm life, no frats, no athletics program, no big parties, no
>It's common when you transfer for schools to frick with your credits, so depending on how bad you get screwed, you can end up stretching into 5 years
>Having to do another admissions process while you're doing school is nightmarish
If you can afford to not go to community college or aren't price sensitive, it's generally preferable to just go straight to a 4 year.
I believe any interest bearing debt should be discharged and usurers should be driven into the ocean. Yeah, the economy will collapse, we'll figure it out without them fricking with us.
That is overly optimistic but yeah i can definitely see how there are plenty of succesful guys together with plenty of losers here. I'm a Data Engineer for a credit company and i lift and speak two languages, but i haven't memorized any poem nor do i know many pop culture fun facts.
Overly optimistic? It was clear sarcasm. The people using this place carefully, filtering out the bullshit and so on, helping others they might be very successful. On the other hand the car majority of shitposting, demoralizatiin etc is by very young people, often teens, with very low intelligence. This is particularly the case for a place like IST or /misc/.
Yes. Also we're all straight and over 6' tall.
Oh it's this cope again?
grapedpilled
>talks about people writing people off for being too fat or thin
>writes peoplw off for being too mucley
why are DYELs like this?
Status games
>Women, Please reduce the weight at which you sexually value physical prowess.
>Women, I want you to increase the weight at which you sexually value artistic attainment
Everyone plays these kinds of games, the most transparent version of this is the "every 5 years" beards vs. clean-shaven jockeying between nu-'s and soi-'s.
I find it absolutely ridiculous how clueless normies are about what the actual fitness is. It's in the word - fitness is how fit you are to live in this world.
Unfit people can't run a mile, can't lift themselves let alone deadlift someone else, they literally can't save their life or help someone else. Can't protect themselves from anything. Can't walk the stairs, can't make love, can't lift their woman, can't carry shit.
If anything people who work out are smarter than those who don't as they have their priorities right. Becoming strong and agile is the smartest thing one can do.
>being judgemental is bad
>unless you go to the gym, then you're an unlovable boring moron who lifts heavy shit all day and has nothing to offer the world kys
So much cope. This guy should've hit delete this is so embarrassing.
Hivemind
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>work out a few hours per week
>still have plenty of time for reading
Lazy midwits can't comprehend doing more than 1 thing a day.
this. plenty of time for everything to enrich my life.
I work out 12-18 hours a week and literally work on language acquisition during my workout.
how do you combine those?
Pimsleur or Michael Thomas? Duolingo between sets?
I read all the time except I mainly read poorly translated wuxia novels. Does this make me smart because I read or am I still dumb because its not self help shit and textbooks?
Stop it anon, we don't have room for logical thinking and level headed-ness here
You and your boyfriend read together in the tub?
not really, they may be wienery and come off as dumber really
bodybuilding =/= being fit
you can get physical exercise and be fit without having heaps of muscle. Intelligent people like myself clock in a 30 minute jog and don’t bother with more than that because it’s just diminishing returns beyond it.
Dyel cope. Muscular strength and endurance are important for longevity and quality of life. A “30 minute jog” sounds lazy and uninspiring, if you’re going to run, why half ass it?
>grow big musklis
>can't do a single muscle up
not so strong now huh
What am I half assing? A 30 minute job each day is all you need for exercise to get optimal cardiovascular health. Switching from that to an hour run doesn’t improve much, it’s diminishing returns. If I already get enough of a nutrient, why would I purposely try to get twice as much if there isn’t even much more benefit?
because you need to cardiomaxx because fighting the government is cardio moron
>I don’t see very many fit doctors, businessmen, entrepreneurs, etc
Leave your basement at least once a week
Most of the young wealthy people with good jobs that I know are fit. It's the boomers that are all out of shape.
I tend to see very fit people in those professions especially among the young. The difference is that they usually are just that, fit. They don't take up bodybuilding seriously because it is typically a surrogate activity.
My dad was in jail and for him, getting fricking huge and ripped was a means of staying sane while confined and making sure he was never anywhere near the bottom of the social hierarchy. All those hours he invested had a deeper purpose basically. Some guys like sol brah who have an almost spiritual view of fitness are different from the herd of protein shake drinkers. But even the gymcel is more admirable than those like pic rel here for other reasons. The guy in your pic is covetous towards intellectual hobbies at the expense of our biological flourishing and expression overall. IYI nerd shit basically.
I'm a programmer making over $100k and I lift. I'm definitely not dumb. This myth needs to go away.
challenge: someone who works as a programmer/engineer doesn't tell you that they are that and includes their income as well
>I'm a programmer
I have very bad news for you
>remember to shower before
She’s 100% talking about pajeets
>shower before
I thought women smelling the incel on you was a joke
i specifically see people on fit talking about "doing salsa dancing to meet women" and everyone here is also a software engineer, this is funny
All pajeets
..but...my tech swag....
I had a homie who went salsa dancing with his gf when we were like 14. his gf obviously had weird overly mature expectations of their relationship based on idk like what her parents do or some shit. He picked up a nickname from it because it was such an odd thing for a young teen to do. Like teenagers getting marriage counseling or something. They eventually broke up obviously and he got a normal gf
This is 100% a fat girl sewing stacies pairing up with techbros
or its someone mad that ugly ass pajeets are flooding all her white yuppie female spaces
why would you shower before exercise?
> Why would you shower before going out in public?
Do you shower every single time you leave the house, moron?
>do you shower?!
wanna know how I know you're a lower race?
What’s good my homie?
Shitskin moment everyone
yes? duh?
>Why would you shower before dancing closely with strangers?
Luckily I use "I hate programmers" to filter low IQ people
I personally know a lead engineer (coding isn’t engineering lol) and he has so much free time.
>I personally know a lead engineer (coding isn’t engineering lol) and he has so much free time.
is he a lead engineer millionaire working from home barely doing anything and thats why he has so much free time?
See this
I've also never worked or heard anyone in DevOps or Software work refer to themselves as a programmer, you state what sort you are e.g Software Engineer, Front/Back end Developer, Cloud Engineer, Full Stack developer and so on.
Also 100k for a 'Programmer' isn't that much.
Go back to IST. I'm not going to say my full title of Full Stack developer. No one would care or know what it means outside the tech circle jerk. I'm not some silicon valley homosexual and I live in a place where 100k a year goes a long way. Frick off and enjoy being a gay.
So you're a jeet that does 60lb EZ curls for 3?
Fit doctors have been on average better for me than nonfit fatfricks or deformed scoliose/hunchback homosexuals.
Nonetheless doctors are in general automata, they simply learn everything by heart. Only a few are able to think further. If they have not read about a thing, it does not exist to them and they can't imagine it existing.
That's simply because they are doctors and not researchers... They know their job is to help you as much as possible with what is known at the time and do exactly that.
Yes, but if they find something they can't exactly tell what it is they should look further or send you to somebody who might have an idea. Besides I visited not just doctors but people who work at the research, the top professor for the specific topic in university clinic and he still wasn't willing or able to help.
>That's simply because they are doctors and not researchers
I don't know who you think does medical research, but I can assure you it's doctors.
>their job is to help you as much as possible with what is known at the time and do exactly that.
That's great, except "what's known now" tends to basically be the same pop science "eggs are superfood, eat only eggs... no wait they're cancer, never eat eggs" extremes. If you ask a dermatologist about skin care, they'll tell you to wear sunscreen just to get the mail, despite a minute of logic telling you that humans evolved on a planet with a sun so it can't be that bad.
Just do your own research, it's literally never been easier and if you took a high school biology course you can understand 90% of a medical journal. Doctors are smarter than the average person, but that isn't saying much.
>If you ask a dermatologist about skin care, they'll tell you to wear sunscreen just to get the mail
They're right.
>logic telling you that humans evolved on a planet with a sun so it can't be that bad.
Lmao this fricking room temp IQ take again. Nothing evolves to be perfectly healthy and comfortable, moron, that's not how evolution works. As long as you live long enough to reproduce and assure the survival of your kid, you could be living in constant agony and the species will survive anyways. There was never an evolutionary need for humans to not get skin cancer at 60 from sun exposure, that's something we need to prevent ourselves. Sun is absolutely terrible for you, it's a necessary evil to expose yourself to it for around 15 minutes per day for vit D but beyond that it's to be avoided.
Make sure to never brush either, we didn't evolve to brush so it must be bad!
>There was never an evolutionary need for humans to not get skin cancer at 60
Your main point is probably right but your view of natural selection is overly simplistic and ignores group/kin selection. It might not increase your individual fitness to live far beyond reproductive age but it benefits your descendants and even distant relatives to have someone older to impart wisdom and perhaps sacrifice themselves in some calamity e.g. predator attacks. That's probably why we even live beyond 40 or so since we're probably supposed to be grandparents by then (teenagers get crazy high hormones right after starting to become fertile, in a world with no contraception most people would probably be parents before 20, so grandparents by 40).
If they don’t follow diagnostic criteria and treatment algorithms, things won’t be covered by insurance and/or they’ll get sued for malpractice. It’s the new insurance companies’ fault
It's because all those doctors, engineers ect are dumb. Smart people can excel at multiple disciplines and don't need to dedicate their entire lives to one subject.
LMFAOO it takes less than 5 hours per week to get in shape and have an above average body if you just focus on the main compounds.You don't even need a gym membership
I’d argue it takes closer to two hours a week to have a physique far above average if you do it for years. But that’s just lifting, it helps also to do recreational exercise on the side for fun like walking, biking, etc.
>Lift, work a manual job, and train
>still have time to read books on philosophy, finance, culture, and anatomy
>it is inconceivable that people can have both physical and intellectual hobbies
???
it is obvious to me that there is a correlation between fitness and intelligence, the amount of fat moronic people and fit intelligent cultures people make this so obvious
You have to be moronic or otherwise failing to think clearly to let yourself be incredibly out of shape. It is not a happy circumstance to be in, and it doesn't take much to maintain a healthy level of fitness.
>He invest time in his body
>Therefore he doesn't invest time in his mind
Massive cope from a person on the verge of despair in the Dunning Kruger effect.
I'm working as a financial controller earning over 100k after tax a year, totally from home, and am doing kickboxing for fun, what's your point?
>earning over 100k after tax a year, totally from home,
no one asked
Tell me more about how your poem is helping you earning as much as me and being as fit as me, homosexual
You do kickboxing, you aren't a body builder. Learn to read.
It has no correlation whatsoever.
I know some people who spend all the time working out tho. It can be a sign of not having much to do, which is indeed a sign of low intelligence. But some of the swollest guys I know are busy as frick all the time and fit an hour of gym into their schedule every day somehow while eating a perfect diet and supplements, effortmaxxing the shit out of their lives. Props to them.
I remember looking at a longitudinal study which followed the lives of gifted students with very high IQs. Contrary to the stereotype of smart kids being frail and sickly dorks, they were actually taller and better looking on average and had better lives in general with more friends, higher marriage rates, higher incomes, and less health problems. And so smarter people tend to excel in all aspects of life because they have better DNA in general. People don't want to accept that though because they'd prefer to believe that there's huge trade offs for being smart.
It's mostly books and movies. You can't have a perfect hero, he has to have weakness. So if he's smart, make him weak. If he's strong, make him dumb, etc. While in reality most smart people are strong. Most weak people are dumb. It's just that there would be no conflict and no-one want's to watch a movie about a happy village.
And dumb people mistake what they see on screen with reality.
There's no stereotype like that that I know of - of smart people being frail and sickly. However smart people often have suffered from chronic sickness, for example Darwin, so it's not vital they are in the best of health.
If you knew anything about DNA at all and didn't just get all your information from larping online and making up things as you go skiing about how others are dumb, you would know that the idea of "better DNA in general" is a fallacy both in theory and in practice.
First thing you learn when study genetics is there are always trade offs. For example higher carcass weight means more difficult and risky births. There are ALWAYS tradeoffs, even if you can't see them at first. It's more you want there to be better and worse, which there isn't in an objective sense.
What you saw in that study was mostly that those individuals werebeing very well looked after in life, during their development, from when they were in the womb.
There is no such thing as "better DNA in general"
Better DNA might be better explained as "less damaged DNA" and "DNA with less subpar sequences". Basically, being smart is the product of things going right, with the fewer negative sequences you have (that is, sequences that decrease intelligence) the better your outcome is.
As such, someone who is smart is only smart because they have enough positive genes to be so, many of which will make their outcome better in other areas. For example, having better oxygen transport or an efficient cell repair pathway will increase intelligence and overall health.
But yes, a lot of intelligence realization relies on a good early life - nutrition, psychological environment, lack of diseases, etc, which will also lead to good health and positive traits like stature and beauty. It's just that genetics do play a large role in both too.
israelite nonsense.
Darvin lived in the times when most people had chronic ilnesses. He was fit enough to sail. Most people would be dead after few years.
Muscle mass corelares with intelligence, so your reasoning is a bs.
Women have to be capable to give a birth to a kid with big head. The bigger and stronger her body, the more possible it is. Africans who as weak and snall can't physically give a birth to smart babies. While northern europeans who are tall and strong have no issues with that.
There is no tradeoff
Eventually you are saying that a worm is equal to a human if you look at genetics.
So the worm is super strong because it is dumb?
I have a high IQ and I'm a short, fat, dumbass.
Here is a haiku for you:
OP is a gay
Only homosexuals read poem
Go have a nice day now
no. this is a cope by people who are too lazy to put effort in.
going to the gym for 1 hour is not somehow prohibitive to learning another language or whatever else this moron said. he simply wants to rationalize the act of physical fitness as a waste of time so he doesn't have to do it.
why are there two wieners pressed against each other in the middle of the pic
Good spotting soldier
Most people, the exceeding majority are stupid people. This is something that we're all aware of to some extent. Most of the people will never get what an "intellectual" would get from reading or academic pursuits. There is nothing wrong with this, this is just how human beings are. Some are not as smart as others. To shame the less intelligent for working for other gratifying hobbies like the gym is petty.
Explanation 1
>Fitness taken seriously is a lifestyle that occupies the majority of your day-to-day life. Because of this there is not much vacant time to dedicate to serious study.
Explanation 2
>Fitness for many is an endeavour embarked on due to vanity. Vain people are likely to have no interest in external topics or ideas and think mainly about affairs directly related to themselves.
I gotta disagree with the first one. Fitness taken seriously DOES take a lot of effort, but it takes that effort in commitment, discipline, and initial planning (getting a routine, finding good meals, etc). In terms of actual time taken it’s less than an hour a day, sometimes less than that for people who only go 3-5 times a week.
>many fit doctors, businessmen, entrepreneurs
They are way more fit than bus drivers, janitors, fast food workers, retail workers.
It doesn't matter. Life is about making yourself happy. If you find more enjoyment from lifting than you do reading, then maybe you should lift more often than you read. As long as you can take care of yourself and those who matter around you then it really doesn't matter how you spend your free time.
I bet his idea of poetry is the modern whiny/angry "I'm black/gay/fat/a woman and it's sooo hard" shit with no rhyme and meter. Poetry peaked during the bronze age and nothing after the 18th century is worth reading.
Idk man he sounds like he loves Rimbaud. Still gay whine nonetheless, but he strikes me as that kind of pretentious homosexual.
I beg to differ sir.
The tiger
He destroyed his cage
Yes
YES
The tiger is out
-Nael, age 6
The itsy bitsy spider climbed up the waterspout.
Down came the rain
And washed the spider out.
Out came the sun
And dried up all the rain
And the itsy bitsy spider climbed up the spout again.
- Marcus Aurelius after finishing inside a lithe young roman boy
tell that moron to go frick himself
if i'm not bodymaxxing i'm mindmaxxing by reading the shit out of wikipedia. tell him he's a c**t.
oh i didn't learn a poem? well that sucks Black person, do you know what a coracobrachialis is? and that nearly nobody has snapped it?
Most people who use gear or go to the gym aren't even bodybuilder or low IQ thugs. Studies show most dudes who take the gym seriously and use gear are high white collar job types. I'd argue enchanced lifters who are past the age of 25 are probably some of the most intelligent people you'll meet
>high white collar job types
Most are gays though. This is why blacks are superior, lower rate of homosexuals
>This is why blacks are superior, lower rate of homosexuals
Isn't the opposite true
his numbers are fudged due to the many down low black men hiding in the closet because of how more flagrant homophobia is in the black community
dumb bait thread
sage
don’t work out then if you think it’ll make you smater
I like how basically every Twitter reply he got was "I'm stronger than you AND smarter than you, homosexual."
this board is proof that yes it is mostly dumb annoying homosexuals who work out
>Is it true that people who work out more are, on average, dumber?
How does one quantify this? What is the qualifier to be counted among "people who work out?" If we're counting everyone from typical gym bros to fat fricks/DYELs who have been "trying" to get in shape for years, then I'd say there's no correlation at all. If you're only counting people who achieve success, who manifest effort, discipline, and consistency into physical excellence, then I'd say that "people who work out" tend to skew significantly more intelligent than average.
>I don't see
So your argument is anecdotal evidence drawing from a sample group of one. Starting to feel kind of ironic in here.
>doctors
Physicians are significantly less likely to be obese than the average.
>businessmen, entrepreneurs
How often do you interact with people who fit this description? To be DYEL or worse, obese, among either group is almost unheard of, as image is so important. Physical excellence is also inextricably bound to discipline and consistency, two traits that are essential to success in the modern market.
>a language he didn't learn
I'm fluent in English, Spanish, and Mandarin (and became so mostly just to see if I could) and I bench 2pl8 for reps; where is your God now? More importantly, how many languages does Guppy speak?
>a poem he didn't read
The implication that "poetry" is inherently meaningful just because it's poetry outs Guppy as a charlatan.
>a fun fact
Jesus Christ... anyway, this ass clown is acting like hitting the weights and an appreciation for the arts and sciences are mutually exclusive. This is cope. This is a weak, undisciplined, degenerate little man who couldn't restrain himself from voicing his contempt of his betters. Hate always comes from beneath. Simple as.
>doctors, businessmen, entrepreneurs
Those "people" are all rabbid subhumans that need to be executed.
Yeah. It's not the weights making them done is mostly socioeconomics. Go to a gym at 2pm and it's just roided Black folk. Roids also do, 100%, purely physiologically makes you dumber due to the supraphysiological testosterone levels being neurotoxic. Yes, I do lift by the way.
You're not Plato. Getting a bicep pump isn't a skill. Don't start with that wrestling shit.
I don't know for sure if there are a lot of Cardinal Signs of someone being a pseudo-intellectual. However, for sure one is thinking being athletically fit and intelligent is not possible - that instead both are mutually-exclusive to each other and you can't have both.
>fit
Thats an interesting term - someone who's 160lbs lean, can run 15k in a good time and can bench 2pl8 would be objectively fit, yet they wouldn't really be huge and jacked and IST would probably call them dyel
You do see doctors, businessmen, software engineers, lawyers etc who are fit - you just don't really see them being 210lbs+ shredded and on roids - those people in the "intelligent" professions you listed are usually fit in the sense that I first described, being lean with good strength and solid cardio, it's just rare for them to be "fit" in the sense that they're absolutely massive
A big part is that they're less likely to use steroids - using steroids is something which dumb people are objectively more likely to do than smarter ones due to having less patience, being unable to think long term
Intelligence is overvalued in our society anyway. People like this desperately try to seem smart and interesting when in reality they maybe have an IQ of 105 at best.
Kek I don't know about that, office I work in has a lot of codemonkeys, finance people etc who are all no doubt above average intelligence at least. All the young ones are in good shape and go to the gym, it's only the old boomers who are fat
Then you look on a construction site full of dumb people (a lot of people I went to school with ended up in construction, all of whom were dumb and failed at mathematics) and everyone young or old is either fat, skinny fat or emaciated
At least from what I've personally seen smarter people are fitter than dumb ones. OP pic is absolute cope
>At least from what I've personally seen smarter people are fitter than dumb ones
Does that include body builders?
You should learn to read.
You should learn to read homosexual, i was answering OPs question. OP specifically asked
>is it true that people who work out more are, on average, dumber
WORK OUT. that doesn't just refer to bodybuilders moron. And I said smart people do work out more and are in better shape than dumb dumbs
OP is making a post on IST, so the boards default definition of 'being fit' is being 210lb and roiding. Dumb dumb.
How many languages other than English does this guy know? People say stuff like this, then they go and fritter away all their free time on YouTube, IG, or whatever.
He posts on Twitter multiple times a day. Dude clearly has an unhealthy relationship with the internet. Sad. Many such cases.
>what are audiobooks
I lift and I speak 4 languages at a college level.
No not really. I find the untrained to be on average far dumber.
Granted yes, the smartest people tend to be untrained people.
Also nothing the OP said takes any brains. It just takes time and discipline mainly.
>Is it true that people who work out more are, on average, dumber?
Yea it's true. And anyone who attempts to deny it is coping.
Body builders are the stupidest people you could possibly find.
i think that people who work out would be smarter because it shows you have discipline, can work towards a goal, have motivation, foresight to look into the future, etc, and these are traits that smart people have
its really not a surprise to me that everyone on fit is also really smart and all have high paying white collar careers and lots of smart hobbies too. unfortunately i am notin that group
shows you have discipline, can work towards a goal, have motivation, foresight to look into the future, etc, and these are traits that smart people have
So a college degree.
>lift heavy up and put down again a few times
>listening to podcast or book while doing it
i guess it was all for nothing, a person on the internet whammy zammied my jammies so hard with their witty take, gosh I feel silly
>listening to podcast or book while doing it
What are you? A 40yo woman?
Anyone who listens to podcasts or audio books is instantly an idiot in my eyes.
All this says about you is that you've never read a book that you wanted to continue reading while doing other things. I would bet money you haven't read an entire book of your own volition since your early childhood, and probably have never read any non-fiction that wasn't required for work or school.
I read books, I dont listen to them. Listening to books is a passive and mindless consumption. I doubt you 'read' anything requiring thought or analysis, else you would shy away from a format that makes revisiting previous paragraphs and sentences incredibly inconvenient.
Anyone who listens to books does not read them. Stay mad.
>audiobooks
>muh Multitasking
Just admit that you’re a moron tick tock adhd homosexual
If you're listening to audiobooks while doing other things, especially something as demanding as working out, you're not absorbing everything being said. You feel like you're getting it all because the sound is pumping into your ears, but if you were asked analytical questions about the book you would likely struggle.
Don’t be elitist about this shit dude, bad to let your ego run amok. Even when it’s in a consequence free space like this it’ll feed something crude within you.
I agree, working out’s a great time slot for casual/entertaining audios, lotta spare time that would otherwise go to waste and frees up later time for other shit.
nta, but if you can focus on an audiobook, you are not lifting heavy enough
Personally, I just listen to 'Call me maybe', 'Sweet dreams (are made of this)' and 'Stacy's mom' on repeat. Makes it easy to measure intervals too
>Anyone who listens to podcasts or audio books is instantly an idiot in my eyes
wtf... this exposes yourself as an idiot, hope you are a kid and time to mature.
This would be better if IST wasn't such a shitty pseudo-intellectual homosexual board, just like IST unfortunately
You can get reasonably jacked in 3 or 4 hours per week. Anyone claiming yhey don't have time to do that because they're so busy memorizing fun facts is just an idiot. On the other hand anyone sufficiently advanced in any sport including bodybuilding had to be at least smart to make it out of intermediate level.
t. electrical engineer with a 7pl8 deadlift
this
for natties upper lower 2/3 times a week is a perfectly viable routine, thats only 2-6 hours of lifting a week
Exactly. 2-3 times per week @ 1-2 hours per workout, full body. You're not going to get jacked overnight but for someone like myself that has been on and off and knows the movement patterns there's no excuse to not get a 95+% physique with barely any effort in the gym.
>tfw listen to audiobooks while lifting
>tfw lifting so I can impress the cutie Latina girl who will help me with Spanish
>shit tier low effort bait
>still gets 100s of replies
On average? Idk, certainly there are many meatheads. But I don't believe cultivating your body means neglecting your mind. That tweet is one the most garbage things ever published on social media.
Pseuds are so fricking gay
How fit are your Walmart wagies, gas station attendants and full time BBC posters?
irony is I keep myself afloat on my own entrepreneurism though it doesn't amount to much more than $40k a year. at least I don't have to wage slave
what d you do
I have a 152 IQ. I can tell on occasion meeting a new person and having a conversation that they are surprised that I'm not a drooling moron because they saw muscle and assumed that was the case. In fact, I'd say a LOT of people I've met who are way stronger and more built than I am are very smart and well spoken. I've only ever really met a handful of meatheads and almost every single one of them is obese by 30.
Cope from ubermensch subhumans. Be the best you can be physically and mentally.
Being fit requires hard work and dedication. These are skills that are also required (but not sufficient in themselves) to have a successful career. Most people that are fit after uni are successful people
Fitgays btfo by based Trads
Evolagays get out
>it’s heroes are athletes, even though they be mere brutes,…
Has the world changed on this avenue? The athletes that I know are more educated, high class and interested in philosophy than regular people I know. I know this is just a subjective observation. But even when I watch le sports, the athletes I see tend to be well educated and full of the spirit of wanting to learn more.
>average person - most probably obese or a lanklet
>above them sportspeople - dedication is shown through their fit bodies
>above them actual creatives - their output seems astounding and can't be replicated by anyone below them without tremendous effort. usually end up with millions of bucks or a "blank check" to do what they want as long as what they want to do is something lucrative.
>above them the administrative creatives - these people can not only create but they can organize other creatives in group projects to a common endeavour, a feat reserved for very few people. usually end up as billionaires in capitalist society.
Nice try neo-confucianist homosexual but ~~*elites*~~ are 99% of the time moronic.
i'm not talking about ~~*elites*~~ i'm talking about self made men.
elites just got all their money from some self made man that made generational wealth and was stupid enought to give it all to their kids.
The only thing I have an issue with when it comes to athletes is the trashy culture and behaviour some of them partake in, which then becomes glorified by kids.
>having multiple baby mommas
>doing drugs
>drinking
>divorcing and remarrying every few years
>generally associating themselves with the criminal aesthetic
>hopping on roids
You can see this the best in football, basketball, soccer and mma. If a professional sumo wrestler did any of these he would be forced to make a public apology if not retire outright because it is understood that kids will always look up to athletes and as such it is the direct responsibility of the athlete be a good role model.
>it is the direct responsibility of the athlete be a good role model.
Why? We don't make this demand of any other celebrity. Business tycoons do whatever the hell they want and they get no press, actors can have committed hate crimes and get away with it if they're good at their job, and famous musicians are almost wholly immune to having criminal pasts and presents affect their public image.
If anything, sports should be most exempt from having to keep a clean image. The entire point of most of the sports you listed is hit the other guy harder and faster than he hits you, or at minimum to exploit every weakness they have to squeeze and pressure them into failure, taking every edge that you can get away with without getting caught. In a quest to find the strongest and most successfully physically predatory human, a demand for him to also be a good person is asking such a man to serve two masters - he's only better at one, by being worse at the other.
Nta. Athletics are held up in our society to kids as important. Acting or music not so much. How many of those yard signs have you seen bragging about their kid being in varsity. I’ve seen exactly 0 of these about a kid being in a play or a band. Note that I don’t think this is the way it should be, praising athletics is just as stupid if not more than praising musical ability, but it is the way things are currently.
this tweet is a good insight to how moronic the average person is. Im pursuing my phd in chemistry and hit 1/2/3/4 with bottom barrel genetics.. You can do 2 things at once, believe it or not.
People are so clueless about fitness that they truly think 8 hour arm workouts with rich panini is the norm.
Are you a bodybuilder or just someone who goes to the gym?
I literally know 5 languages, (1 mother tongue, 1 fluent, 3 conversational level) I have decent problem solving skills and program for work. I read >20 books a year (it's not that much, but I have other hobbies) and rarely find people who I can discuss literature on the same level with. I also grow bees for a hobby and used to study wilderness survival
I'm better at most things than maybe 90% of the population, so I have no idea what this gay is talking about
>I also grow bees for a hobby
How'd you get into that one?
I live in the Eastern part of Europe (technically Baltics) so agriculture is still somewhat close to us considering most people stopped being farmers at my grandparents generation. So a friend of mines grandfather was a pretty big beekeeper (90 hives or so) and when he died my friend took a part of that over and from time to time I would join him to help out and learn.
It's fun, but honey is basically just sugar, so I either eat it with curds for some extra carbs or just gift it away. Making mead could be fun, but I'm a certified alcoholic so I can't drink
>I’m starting to notice I don’t see very many fit doctors, businessmen, entrepreneurs, etc
Zuck practices BJJ, Jobs did cardio, Bezos rows, Musk claims he works out, almost every med student has a basic fitness regimen, and a lot of finance bros have abs. Even most programmers are pretty IST. If you're not seeing fit successful people, it's because you're not engaging with successful people.
Lifting has led me to seek a lot of knowledge on nutrition, physiology, anatomy, protein synthesis, and even pharmacology. This is mere cope from a loser who thinks that memorizing a poem makes him smart
You don't know anything about those subjects. You are just able to repeat things you heard other people say.
Memorising information doesn't make you smart, just like memorising a poem doesn't make him smart. If you were intelligent you'd know this lmao.
meanwhile prisoners are attaining hypertrophy with none of that
the irony is that fitness is exactly like learning a language. if you spend 30 minutes a day you'll know it/get jacked eventually
It's not that they're dumber, it's that for whatever reason having a lot of mass, whether muscle or fat, doesn't seem to help you be an intellectual. The typical high ranking person at a university is thin, light on their feet, has lots of energy, and the motivation to put a large majority of that energy into their career.
People want to motivate themselves to lift and to try to push themselves to it they'll fill themselves with all this half baked theory that it really helps them in other ways - it literally doesn't. Someone mentioned the other day that it increases GABA, which is a relaxing hormone, and that makes a lot of sense to me - and maybe it's not just one hormone but a ton of other similar physiological changes. But relaxing is not always the best thing.
Working out hard makes you feel good and relaxed, but it's too relaxed and also burns you it a bit more - maybe, that's what it appears like to me. Think also about how aroused people get after lifting. If you're in a low calorie mode on the other hand, then completely different biological instincts may get turned on, right?
Like it or not the prototypical top most productive scientist is a rake dyel white male who is within ten years of middle age either direction, slightly taller than average, moves quickly from one thing to the next, doesn't get emotional or muh feelings that we see so much on here, that's the optimal productive intellectual mode, I'm sorry. I didn't write the rules. You can come up with all the anecdotal exceptions you like, it doesn't change the trend.
Even some good/healthy things like sleep, diet and so on, the highly motivated productive person will push and push, the bodybuilder will work about their gains and turn down that all nighter..
Fortunately there can be a happy medium. Lift once it at most twice a week, don't let it get in your head in other ways, and you will have some muscles and that can't be that damaging.
great post. couldn’t have said it better myself
I think the problem is that they view fitness as being Greek/Roman statue or arnold body builder looks. They see fricking Conan the Barbarian and assume that's what everyone pursuing fitness is going to do when being told to exercise.
yea, it's fat people who think they're perfect and tricked themselves into thinking being fit is a downgrade. i mean, you said barbarian even
I love that the katakana was accurate. when did IST become so shit
No idea on IST to tell the truth. I don't go there. I just like anime but I don't like going to spaces to talk about anime. Anime homosexuals are actually annoying most of the time.
>Doesn’t mentally walk through a memory palace of the entire Bible + every epic poem ever written while zercher squatting septuple his bodyweight
Ngmi
That's just cope by regards who need to substrack value from everything that makes them feel inferior. There are meatheads of course, and there are regarded doctors and engineers as well.
So does this person spend his whole day reading poems and memorizing fun facts
I do construction labor which is physical exercise in itself. I'm not a genius or anything, but I am happy with what I have.
I’m sure someone’s already said it but TRULY being in great shape takes a lot of time. Every single extremely successful person I’ve known has worked their asses off. They don’t really have the time and energy it takes to have a great physique. That simple really.
I speak 4 languages and play 2 instruments. Poems are for gays, fun facts for redditors
Its always hilarious how much these threads trigger IST.
>but im a programmer earning 100k!
>but i can speak three european languages!
>but im studying an easy subject in college!
Most people in the world tend to be very lazy. Laziness is not just sitting on the couch watching TV. Laziness comes in many forms. Laziness relates to worldliness. Wordliness relates to cycles that get repeated mechanically on various time cycles.
So the fitness afficianado finds progress through her routine then she starts making her life about that as trying to successfully juggle that (often overly complex) fitness routine with other skills is complicated and unsexy.
The doctor finds progress (money, respect) through his profession and feels he is helping the health of his community so if his own health suffers, it is out of love and sacrifice, rather than complete laziness and ignorance. Everything must be kept sexy in peoples own heads. People enjoy deluding themselves.
To be a man indicates that you approach your responsibilities maturely. This is where Diogenes comes in, it is very rare to find a real man. It seems like the bleakest thing in the world to abandon laziness and worldliness and make efficient use of your time. It is similtaneously the most desired thing. A condundrum.
100% true. I spend way too much time counting my muscles every day. There’s just too many of them and if I lose count I have to start again.
No it's not. Because if you want your brain functioning optimally so you can perform at your highest level in your work, you need to work out every day.
reddit midwit pseud types correlating personal fitness, sports, being ripped with being dumber or stupid 'jocks' is rich lol. also feel like a lot of people who are into bodybuilding, nutrition, etc. are oddly nerdy about it aha. learning about muscle groups, macros, etc. its lowkey pretty nerdy.
You weren't here during /fitlit/, were you?
The thing is, you've got to be really fricking stupid to gorge on sloppa and neglect exercise.
>counting muscles [...] for hours
Yes.... that seems like a well thought through critique.
You can spend an hour listening to audiobooks sitting in your bed, or you can spend that same hour listening to audiobooks while lifting. OP is a massive cope.
I'm a lean 82kg at 181cm and have 1/2/4/5. I've also got a PhD in physics and work in research at the top university in my country.
Anyone who thinks they're smart and doesn't exercise is a fricking idiot. Everyone I work with is physically fit and a few are elite athletes. What's the point of being smart if you're going to be decrepit by 60 and dead by 70?
How do you know they aren't there? They don't wear lab coats or suits to the gym, dumbfrick.
What bothers me is the doctor that trades stocks, wby IST discord?
>I don't see very many fit doctors, businessmen, entrepreneurs, etc
You must be blind.
If my MD isn't IST I'm not going. Businessmen and Entrepreneurs are almost always IST because it helps in negotiations.
> Businessmen and Entrepreneurs are almost always IST because it helps in negotiations
sure thing bud
>posts 92 year old
all my finance bros workout. Poorly, but they still put in the work.
We work more than 99% of people out there.
dont @ me
>finance bros
>work
frick off parasite
Hey man I've spent many long hours sucking off Mr. Goldman's sack
>learn some useless "fun facts"
>have massive fricking arms
hmmm what a hard choice
You still get the health benefits of weightlifting without showing muscle bro gains. Never look up to a muscle bro - they have no regard for their health.
Speaking of fun facts, I wonder if guppy knows what the serratus is, or what it does?
I don't work out and I'm pretty stupid.
Guppy got rekt hard though
blud thinks he's a "warrior" because he lifts a metal bar above his head in a padded, air-conditioned room for a few hours a week
>air-conditioned room
jokes on you my gym is a piece of shit and the AC doesn't work half the time
This quote is talking about military generals. Not minimum wage wagies who spend their free time in the gym and haven't read a book since the 7th grade.
>he can't into similes
foolish coward moment
Memorizing stuff doesn't make you smart it just means you can memorize stuff. Also I listen to books and science/philosophy podcasts/documentaries all the time when I'm at the gym. The cope on these "intellectuals" is insane. My last gf was a valedictorian and she thinks she can dispell contrails with her mind. Kek if someone lauds a degree I immediately think they are useless and borderline moronic.
>Kek if someone lauds a degree I immediately think they are useless and borderline moronic
If you have a degree from a modern university I assume you're a party functionary unless proven otherwise
PhD in biochemistry, writing as a postdoctoral research fellow. Every single one of the top people that I’ve worked with is in shape, apart from the 60+ age group where they’re just slightly soft/pudgy.
There are fat scientists, but they’re almost always underwhelming midwits in my experience.
Noone's saying they're fat, I made the post above saying they're very thin. What he means by working out is growing big muscles. Your colleagues are thin, healthy guys, often with beards.
One caveat is that gym culture is penetrating pretty deep these days, so they might casually lift a little bit or mention it at some point. At the end of the day they're likely not going around with big muscles on average.
that post was the greatest bait ever posted on the internet its so fricking funny
>a fun fact never memorised
legendary
Uh tom platz is a fricking business guy
He worked with trump and vince McMahon
i literally just went on a group run for an hour with two doctors and an engineer
I think typically, upper class people do more rooning and endurance sports but could easily build muscle if they just switched focus; they still spend time csring for their body either way. OP's pic is just fat/weak person cope
So that's about 600 poems I never read. The loss is truly incalculable.
I feel like people think I'm dumb because I don't look very smart. When I was a geek and would wear ill fitting dress shirts in high school people thought I was smart, once I got muscle and wore better clothing now they think I'm dumb despite how I personally feel my younger self was an idiot.
You can't win with these people and there's no point trying to, they'll judge everyone but themselves. All that matters is what you feel about yourself, if you think you're smart then you're smart. That shouldn't be an excuse to be lazy or lie to yourself, you must be earnest in your thoughts of yourself otherwise you are just like those people.
Now I have a jelqing session to begin
The people who preach shit like this never wrote a poem learned a language or read a book, they just wanted an excuse to goon to trans on b instead of getting out of bed and going to the gym.
Poetry has been for women ever since the middle ages
This same account also made fun of people that know multiple languages kek, peak American twink-poster
Pure cope. I went to a top, very prestigious university. The super smart achievers secretly fume chicks want fit dudes. Its all fricking cope.
That’s bullshit. World leaders and intellectuals find time to workout. I’m a STEM researcher with two kids under 4 and I find time to lift, as do many other colleagues.
It’s difficult to rationalize why taking care of yourself physically and mentally is bad, or that an hour a day cannot be devoted to fitness, only a moron with a massive sour grapes inferiority complex would suggest this.
>january 2021
And it was with that twat that I realized the 2020s would be gayer and shittier than the 2010s.
Total cope. Most people aren't reading books or bettering themselves. Most people are scrolling tik Tok or reels or whatever bullshit. I don't blame them, it's addicting.
no
most morons are complete physical wrecks.
Smarter people tend to work out more than average people because they can better understand the health and aesthetical benefits, but the competition models and bodybuilders who abuse roids and spend 5 hours everyday lifting are usually midwits; they require bodybuilding as pathway to success compared to smarter people who will find something healthier with less effort required to make money or get b***hes. Smarter people also like to make impacts with their intelligence.
Its the same thing with models and pornstars. Smart girls arent any less horny or beautiful, they just dont have to do porn or modelling to make money. Theyd rather do something more important
Each time an npc spends over 4 hrs a week on the couch watching Netflix garbage is a physique not gained.
>Each time an npc spends over 4 hrs a day on the couch watching Netflix garbage is a physique not gained.
FIFY
The biggest newspaper in our country just published an article which stated that strength training increases your congnitive capabilities.
Bodybuilding absolutely, it's an all consuming pursuit that requires dedication and discipline.
Just working out? Most people who work out a few times a week have plenty of time and energy to practise other hobbies. General the obese who can scarcely move and have the energy levels of an 80 year old struggle to do anything but eat and consume media.
well no shit
if youre obese or muscular (holding onto any excess weight) your body has to work extra hard and this affects your brain
There have been a few studies that show being fat makes you less intelligent, especially if you were obese as a child. The fact that you made this thread is proof enough you are a fat moron OP.
Reading is a sedentary woman activity. Odd to see so many people defending it. I will respect a man more who works out over a loser who reads Dostoevsky and Tolstoy. Also the seething this tweet generates just proves xir right in the end. Such woman behavior going on ITT as a whole.
This has to be bait. Reading, and writing, great works of literature has always been the domain of men. I listen to audiobooks on cosmology (written by and for men) while I lift. And read great literature and interesting non-fiction in my spare time. My wife likes to peruse Amazon for shit we don’t need.
Writing? Sure. Reading? Absolutely not.
Men will literally prefer any other activity over sitting down and reading a book like a meek loser.
This is mainly due to the fact that public schools and colleges do a bad job at getting boys and men to love reading, but also because it is very homosexual in general.
You sound either underage or like you peaked in highschool.
Bait confirmed
It's not bait. You can go up to any muscular, attractive dude and ask him if he's ever heard of or read Montaigne's Essays and you will get weird looks like you are talking about e-girl otaku anime.
You can go up to anyone, ask that, and get the same response. Even some weird dweeb who does collect e-girl anime. Very few people have read Montaignes essays and this is a fantastical straw man.
I am sure very few have finished the whole tome. Read a couple of them at some point? If they are interested in literature and art, sure. If they are actually intelligent, sure.
People regardless of gender or build are stupid and do not actually care about great written works. Those are the facts.
I read 20th century fiction, can I make it?
many countries that still have real men don't even bother teaching women how to read.
No
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berkson%27s_paradox#:~:text=Berkson's%20paradox%2C%20also%20known%20as,in%20statistical%20tests%20of%20proportions.
STEM PhD here. If anything, working out makes you smarter. As Socrates once said:
>It is a shame for a man to grow old, without seeing the beauty and strength of which his body is capable
You don’t see a lot of fit doctors because they are usually old and not many people are fit to begin with—ie you don’t see many fit *anything* these days. That has no bearing on whether fitness impacts intelligence. There is also a self-selection bias: people who want to become body builders, fitness influencers, or trainers as their life goal are probably not that smart or interested in things stereotypically smart people are into.
And this tweet’s argument is moronic. Being extremely fit requires realistically at most 5-7 hours of concentrated working out a week. And during that time you can even listen to audiobooks and podcasts about cosmology or biology or finance if you want. Anybody—and I mean anybody—can spare 5-7 hours a week to lift and choose healthy low calorie + high protein meals for food. If not, then you are some kind of slave to something (a job, an addiction, etc).
You don't see a lot of fit doctors because people who do PhDs are either turboautists that are scared of going to work in the real world or turboautists that will voluntarily spend 80 hours a week on their subject.
The people that are genuinely smart and charismatic will already have networked to the point where they get paid much more and have far more resources available than a doctorate could ever provide.
I work and probably make much more money than you lmao. Many phds I know have started businesses too. I’m not even sure what idea you’re basing this rank speculation on
>fun facts memorised
There’s definitely a point of diminishing returns for the typical person. Nobody really argues that. What I would argue is that bodybuilding often develops a view of the body that is basically unnatural. And I think when you look at the history of bodybuilding and the mindsets of top bodybuilders you see what’s going on there and how that came about. But you don’t need to be a top bodybuilder. Anybody who thinks about enlarging their biceps or quads is sort of doing it.
>Is it true that people who work out more are, on average, dumber?
No, not at all. This is a cope made by lardasses because of their inferiority. All of the famous Greek and Roman philosophers everybody quotes all the time were buff as frick and lifted weights every day
>I’m starting to notice I don’t see very many fit doctors, businessmen, entrepreneurs, etc
They usually do some form of cardio instead of lifting, but a lot of these types have to dedicate their entire lives to their jobs (slaves) and don't have much energy left over to maintain their body
Jeff Bezos and Mark Zuckerberg have time for a little working out though