I've discovered a shocking truth. Looks don't matter to women. Not really. Yes they get you attention and they get your "foot in the door," but ultimately it's how you make them feel that turns them on, which is primarily affected by how you behave. A good looking guy who acts like a b***h or a coward will fail with women while an ugly fat guy who behaves dominantly will succeed?
Can somebody confirm or deny these allegations through personal experience? Of course, I plan to lift anyway for life due to the numerous benefits...but is it that important for women?
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Women don't care about looks that much, it's how you treat them, yes. It is, however, far easier for an attractive guy to get the foot in the door just because women's first impression is so important and they still don't like ugliness, like anyone else.
These guys contracdict
So how do I know who's lying?
I'm
and I'm a woman. I don't even look in the direction of fat guys. No girl friend of mine does either. Do what you want with that information.
I don't listen to women as I don't value their opinions; also, you could be a troon. Can a man (who has actually had a consistent amount of successful experiences with women) validate?
I'm not a troon but you're so right, definitely do take the advice that suits you, we all know it's so hard not to eat like a pig. You should listen to fellow fatasses and eat yourself to an early grave. This board is filled with fat slobs who have fricked 100s of women, they won't hesitate to tell you you're in the right.
I don't have issues with gluttony. You're projecting (being a woman).
Let's say you ARE woman. Have you ever slept with a woman as a heterosexual man? Have you ever kept a relationship (as a heterosexual man)? Why would I regard anything you have to say. You only think you have valuable information because you have a vegana. Just because somebody sold you something, doesn't mean you know what it takes to sell something. A man and woman have completely different life experiences. Know your place.
I am a member of the group you want access to. And I can tell you with full confidence that you'll never get it. A fat girl might settle for you though, but don't expect her to be faithful.
I do know my place. It's rejecting guys like you and taking pleasure in it while making fun of you with my friends.
So the answer to all of my questions is "No."
I've never seen so much arrogance in one post. Do women really think like this? Disgusting. This is the writing of someone who has never worked for anything in their life, of someone who has never endured shame and humiliation before persevering into glory. Thank God for the wall.
unironically yes woman do actually think like that but theyll rarely express it openly like that unless you're very close and exhibit some also sadistic traits (ive had women open up to me about the cruel shit they do cause i used to encourage TOTAL INCEL DEATH when i was younger because i hate seeing pathetic people)
the person you're replying to is a man who has sex and knows whats up and is larping to piss off incels
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Women unironically don't deserve to vote. The only people who talk like that are people who have never had to grind and suffer, people who have had everything handed to them. It makes sense though as hot girls have all of this attention and validation they never worked for.
>will i get women if i'm fat?
>no.
>well frick you i don't care about women
>ok, still won't get women tho
>THIS IS THE WRITING OF SOMEONE WHO HAS NEVER WORKED FOR ANYTHING IN THEIR LIFE
Just put down the fork guys, it's not that hard.
As a man I see nothing wrong with this post. She's telling OP how it is and somehow he's rejecting sound advice? When did this place become so soft?
Bullshit. Hot girls do not browse this shithole.
Hell, there are no women in /fit actually.
Not a ton of experiences, but I got some attention as a lanky XC runner, and zero as a skinny fat gamer.
So there’s that.
I don't really care about attention. I know that being in shape will get you more attention. I care about FRICKING. There's a difference between getting a girl to check you out vs. nutting in her.
Women care about first impressions but not anything after that.
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This is true but I only started getting "the eyes" (approach invites) after I lost weight
The "dad bod" thing is a meme. Put down the fork, fatass. You're not getting any girls with your "dominant behavior".
you need both looks and charm. she wants to be able to show you off, thats where the charm comes in. she also wants to not be embarrassed to walk down the street with you, this is where looks come in.
HOWEVER, charm only lasts the first few dates. after she is comfortable with you, you can start showing your weird side and drop the charm act
and how tf are you gonna develop this super charisma and social status when you look below average and missed out on social development in childhood because you looked below average? I can tell you from experience you can get away with a shitty, boring personality as long as you look good and there isn't a lot of awkward silence(just talk about something)
>missed out on social development in childhood because you looked below average
you might as well say you missed out on sports as a kid cause you were too ugly to throw a ball
fwiw I see average looking non-fi guys with hot women often enough. I think once you look acceptable (meaning not fat) personality will get you further than being fit. I don't have a personality though which is why I need to get fit.
I’m pretty good looking, blond 6’2 with light eyes. When I go out girls will stare at me and motion me over, but once I get there I have the social skills of a moronic monkey and they lose interest instantly unless they are seriously plastered
I’ll make it pretty simple for you. I am an artist, i make oil paintings. On social media and dating apps I have pictures of some of the paintings I make. I get WAY more compliments on my paintings if I also have pictures of me in my underwear too
the only thing that matters is visible abs, a tight core.
Stop thinking of being worthy of the women so much as being better competition than most men. You'll never be able to understand a woman's mind beyond basics, but being a man you do know that you being in better shape gives you an advantage over other men in the rat race. Simple as.
>Yes they get you attention and they get your "foot in the door," but ultimately it's how you make them feel that turns them on, which is primarily affected by how you behave.
This is true and in fact is common knowledge by anyone who has been on both sides of the looks equation (or getting women equation).
The reason the gymcels of IST place such an enormous emphasis on their looks and lifting for women is because for them, just getting their foot in the door actually is a massive accomplishment.
They'll get some looks, sure, but they'll also get blown the frick out the second some guy who also looks good and lifts, AND is actually cool, fun, and knows how to talk to women comes along.
This pretty much. I'm considered "jacked" by normalgays in public and at work, but I have nothing else going for me. Women want guys who "frick with them" per se, and I can't do that since I have no idea how.
You skipped personality day bro.
I dropped the course after seeing only guys in the class. I ain't walking into a sausage fest for a day.
Everyone plays to their strengths if something does not simply work in our brains socially we can work toward other ideals,beauty,strength and just hide what we think of others, better being agreeable and nice than telling people to frick off and deleting our chances,maximize what you can, minimize what you cant maximize
Women just want to feel loved, protected and respected, if you’re a jackass in Frank Zane’s body you’re gonna get laid a lot but not loved.
I don’t know, I lift because it helps me a lot with my self esteem by putting goals I can achieve with hard work. I’m 5’6 and ugly as sin so I’ve given up long ago.
I lift for girls but when one shows interest in me, especially when her friends say she's really into me, I assume there's something wrong with her
You get in shape for yourself. You get in shape for the looming apocalypse. You never do it for women. Women like big bank accounts(provider), social hierarchy, personality, and looks. They are all on a scale. Example, you could be super rich and not have to good looking at all but you can't be a creepy social nobody whose also a shitty person to be around. Vice versa you can be ultra chad good looking and have no money and be pedo but you also need charisma.
Tldr: sigma grind work out for you
>thinking about women
NGMI
>You never do it for women.
I mean, I lift for my daughter.
the trick is to lift moderately, eat healthy so you have nice skin, and practice talking to girls daily
How do I stop being ashamed of myself to actually be able to show interest in women?
It's almost as if I have to hide the fact that I'm a sexual being for whatever reason, as if my penis should be used for pissing and nothing else. I'm incapable of flirting/showing sexual interest because it feels "out of character" like I'm not being myself. And it's not like I think girls don't enjoy being flirted with, I see other guys flirting with girls and girls even enjoying it.
But it just that it feels absolutely wrong and turbocringe to myself whenever I try it, nothing about it feels natural or right whatsoever. In fact it feels pretty much like the pic related meme. As if you can only be a lecherous pervert or an asexual monk, no in-between.