Is lifting basically all about genetics?

  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    pretty much.
    Unless you don't have good genetics and use roids you will never get a single inch of muscle.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Why using irony on such an important topic?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Because it's a stupid fucking question

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >pretty much.
      That's what I said before I clicked this thread.

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    No ffs. Genetic potential this, natural limit that, shut the fuck up. Everyone, and I mean EVERYONE, will look better and get stronger with hard consistent training.

    Most people don't train hard, and don't stick to it. If you do those two things you will have an impressive physique by any standard that isn't as dysmorphic as IST

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Everyone, and I mean EVERYONE, will look better and get stronger with hard consistent training.

      Nobody doubts of that actually, you're getting off topic here

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >No ffs. Genetic potential this, natural limit that, shut the fuck up. Everyone, and I mean EVERYONE, will look better and get stronger with hard consistent training.
      Stop with this demoralizing bullshit, some people will never make it and this kind of talk wastes their life and damages their mental health due to frustration and stress and disappointment.
      Many people start steroids because of liars like you saying they can make it, and when they don't they resort to steroids and ruin their health.
      Some people literally lose muscle when they workout.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        What is PCSA? Sorry I'm not Native English

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Muscle cross sectional area

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            what's muscle cross sectional area?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        ngmi

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Because developing discipline, exercising and sticking to a routine is B A D if you don't look good, right? Come on now 555

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Do you really think the majority of lifters would keep going to the gym if being muscular doesn't look good on them?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Have you heard of powerlifting and strongman.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Lucky you, I said "the majority"

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >exercising and sticking to a routine is B A D if you don't look good, right?
          yea?
          aesthetic is everything, who gives a shit about how many reps you can do when you look like a diseased grandpa

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Some people literally lose muscle when they workout.
        Yeah the workout breaks down muscle tissue but in some people with unfortunate genetics, the muscle never grows back stronger like it should, so they end up losing muscle. Working out literally destroys muscle tissue in some people and makes them smaller kek they probably produce hyper amounts of cortisol

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Stop with this demoralizing bullshit
        >some people will never make it
        Congratulations, you're retarded. Shoo shoo gains goblin.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Nobody loses muscle from lifting, even old women gain muscle

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    no its about lifting and eating enough calories and protein
    genetics factors in but its not "all about it" unless youre trying to be one of those mr olympia fags

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    You have to have a huge frame, be in between 5'10 and 6'2", and have perfect insertions to win Mr. Olympia, but even among dudes like that it's decided by who lifts better. And outside of that lifting has a place in every sport and any given frame type can be good at one of them and look good for it. Lifting is about lifting.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Of course everyone can improve his body, but some will struggle more than others. All other things being equal, some people have to put more efforts into lifting to have the same results than others. In that case, we can say that genetics matter and can undermine motivation of those who are on the "bad genetics" side.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I have good genetics. I've always had abs, don't know what it's like to have to achieve that first pullup, and started with intermediate lifts. Everybody in the weight room caught up to me in a year, then many surpassed me. You're way overrating it, trust me.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Not sure I got it, you're saying you started with good lifts and good body (let's say, better than the majority of beginners) and then those beginners who were far behind you caught up to you?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            That's what I'm saying.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              How do you explain that, I've heard many lifters saying the same as you, but it's super weird to me.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                I have a more active cns which is literally what muscle tone is and it's and a big part of strength. It's also exactly what you get when you develop it in the gym by lifting.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                But then other beginners with less active CNS shouldn't have caught up to you in that case. Yes, they lift which allows them to activate their CNS, but you do lift as well which makes your CNS improve as well, doesn't it?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                You go from level zero to one in the blink of an eye. It's kinda like the rubber banding in mario kart where those in the back go faster so that all the action is concentrated. I'm not educated enough to explain it any better.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          But he is right, tho. Not everyone who roids will look like Schwarzenegger. Not everyone who lifts looks like Hugh Jackman.
          Take a gander at Jason Blaha. Has been lifting all his life and he looks like molten fucking shit.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            I covered that already. Your frame and attachments will stop you from being top 1% if you pick something that they aren't cut out for. It doesn't mean you can't be good at something else and look good for it.
            And who gave you the clearance to talk about Jason Blaha?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Some will struggle more than others. And it depends in part on genetics. Some people excel naturally at some lifts while they suck at others. Bench and squat are slow growers for me. Deadlift and back work are easy to move forward on. It's a matter of what works for you. Ex: Hack squats build my legs more than back squats

        Just gotta find the right tool for the job, experiment some, and not be too dogmatic with it

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Oftentimes those with a weak response to training respond well to lower volumes than typically recommended, so ironically somebody not very gifted might actually benefit more from doing less

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          I've never heard that before, quite counterintuitive

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    To compete at a competitive level in some sort of physical fear or sport, at the top yeah genetics wins the day.
    But you're not competing. You're some mook in a 24h fitness. A single look around confirms that it won't take much to outlift and outlook the majority.

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    > A single look around confirms that it won't take much to outlift and outlook the majority.

    Everyone at gym is better-looking than me

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Probably, because unlike you, they've lifted for more than a month.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        No, I mean they are very muscular. Not the kind of body you can catch up in a month.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          You clearly have not been into fitness very long if you're looking at the majority of people in a commercial gym and thinking they're muscular.
          Here's what makes them different from you: they lift and you don't.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            I started lifting a while ago now, my problem was that I was afraid of going to the gym. I started to go with some friends, and then with a PT to help me "deactivate" the fear, but whatever gym I would go to and whenever in the day my session was, I never saw beginners like me (I mean, skinny ones lifting low weights)

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Then it sounds like you weren't terribly consistent, which would of course explain why you think the majority in a commercial gym are muscular.
              Look fella, if you absolutely *need* to see out of shape people lifting baby weights to make you feel better, go to your gym at the first week of the month either at 4am, 5pm, or 3pm if there's a high school nearby. Bonus points if the month is January. You'll get what you desire.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                What do you mean? I was not consistent at all, I can confirm that. That's the point. The point is, even though I went to the gym once a week, I would see in the vast majority of time muscular people and not skinny ones.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >once a week
                you're killing me man, you went *once a week* and decided "it must all be genetics!" when you didn't get bigger than anyone?
                Hey, you ever get to thinking maybe the skinny dudes also went once a week? Maybe that's why you didn't see em but you saw the dudes who went more than once a week?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                I'm not saying lifting is all about genetics because I didn't make any progress going to the gym only once a week.

                I'm saying going to the gym only once a week is enough to see what kind of population there is in gyms and there aren't as many beginners as IST pretends

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah, people who go *more than once a week*. I mean, you can calculate probability, right?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                I'm not making such calculations, I'm just saying when I first mentioned my anxiety regarding gym, everyone was saying to me "don't worry, gyms are full of beginners like you" and that's not what I've observed

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Look man, I get it, the majority in the gym aren't "beginners" at a given day and given time. It's something every beginner has to come to terms with. But to go from there to saying they're mostly muscular, I mean bless your soul, you should probably quit before the *real* body dysmorphia hits and you think the same thing 50 pounds of muscle mass later.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                If you're not beginner you are mostly muscular, there's no middle ground. Of course then you can distinguish between different levels of muscle mass, but as soon as I can see with my eyes that you are lifting some weights at gym (whether or not you are thin or massive) than you are muscular to me.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Which is, like, absurd. You know that right? Normal people don't think like that.
                Please stop going to the gym. When you inevitably shoot up a place I don't want it to be potentially be one I go to.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                What is absurd? As soon as you are quite dry, I can infer from that that you are going to the gym. I cannot consider you as a beginner, because by definition beginners are not supposed to be identified as "muscular" to the naked eye.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >even though I went to the gym once a week

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >once a week

                Your consistency is the problem. Stop crying and lift more, pussy.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              I’m sorry but I’ve been going to the gym for a little over a month now and you 100% see beginners and even elderly people there. I live in a more populated state though and I’m not talking really about the free weight area. The weights do have a lot of beefy dudes but you’ll occasionally see the few skinny young people or the 2 teen looking gym bros hyping each other up. There’s a lot and I mean a LOT of intimidating guys there but you just have to view it as time and effort they put in; not a reflection or comparison to you.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                I live in France, we do not have the same culture regarding muscular people and gym membership as you in the US. I'm not saying I have never seen a single beginner at gym, it would be a lie. However, I cannot say that they are in the majority. And I do not see that many elderly people either.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >France
                oh
                I'm terribly sorry for

                Which is, like, absurd. You know that right? Normal people don't think like that.
                Please stop going to the gym. When you inevitably shoot up a place I don't want it to be potentially be one I go to.

                you're actually quite normal, then.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                What? LMAO

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                As you say, North America is very culturally different in terms of fitness culture compared to France, where going to the gym is very peculiar thing, no?
                Just as an example, here in North America gyms for less than 15 euros a month are commonplace. Not only that, but these gyms will often be marketed to those who are out of shape, who will come and continue to be out of shape. Take a vacation here, spend a day in a planet fitness, you will feel so much better about yourself and your gym anxiety.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                In France you can have gym membership for 20 euros a month. These gyms have acceptable equipment and machines, you can become muscular going to these gyms. The problem is more about the type of population you will find there, and the fact that these gyms tend to be overcrowded at some timeslots (7-8 PM for example) and you need to wake up very early in the morning if you want to train peacefully.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Well that's a 5 euro difference, ain't it? For a lot of people, that 5 euros may be why they don't go to the gym, and the 5 euro discount here is maybe why so many people go to the gym. I have worked out around probable homeless people, just to show you what that small price difference can lead to.
                And of course there is culture. Here the gym is a common thing for people to go to, ask anyone if they have ever been to a gym at least once and they more likely to answer that they have than that they haven't. just a 5 minute walk from where I live is a store selling mostly whey protein, right by a liquor store. another 10 minute walk away is another store selling mostly whey protein.
                in any case, to return to your original question, most of lifting is consistency. Getting muscular is something that happens over months, if not years, of regular and structured exercise. After that, one can speak of genetics, since that is when one actually hits genetic limits.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                I don't think it's a matter of price. I don't know how it works in the US, but in France we have to commit ourselves to pay a 12-months membership to the gym. In most cases, people who intended to go to the gym only go there the first months, but then they pay the rest for nothing (which is basically pouring money down the drain, but there's no alternative in France, every gym brand works that way)

                I guess now more in more people are going to the gym in France, it's quite common when talking to people about that to hear them saying they've been to the gym at least once recently, but I guess it's still less generalized than in the US. And we still have this kind of mindset "those who commit themselves to the gym and go there very often are braindead people". Not sure people think the same in the US.

                Regarding my original topic, I know that consistency is key. I'm not saying the world is divided between those who are able to get muscular without putting any efforts and those who won't manage to get muscular whatever the efforts they put into gym. I'm just saying that, I'm still a beginner and I can see differences related to genetics. A friend of mine with whom I went to gym told me I had bad genetics, because I shake very much and lift pretty low. And indeed, I see that my lifts are quite low compared to the average beginner. And you cannot only explain that with the "sports-you-played-during-chilhood" argument.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                12-month* more and more* sorry for the typos

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >but in France we have to commit ourselves to pay a 12-months membership to the gym
                And there is another reason. It is reasonably common now for gyms here to let you pay monthly without contract, and I have been to other countries where they let you pay just for the days you are there. For a beginner this is good, because he does not have to think about whether or not he will keep at it and waste money on a contract, which brings more people into the gym.
                And there is a big reason you do not see many beginners. Most are hesitant to join because of the contract, and the people you do see at the gym are trying to get value-for-money, because they are going to have to pay anyways.
                Your lifts are low and you shake because you only go once a week. Friend, here in IST you can assume everyones lifts were low when they started, if they even lift at all. This is a fitness board on a japanese anime imageboard, you can very well guess the genetic material at play. But still, there are people here who have gotten quite strong anyways.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                So now you understand why I'm not lying, you cannot compare two very different countries with regards to gym culture such as the US and France. You can pay a test session for 10 euros, but then if you want to go again to the gym, to have to commit yourself to this 12-month contract. There's no "per session" payment alternative.

                And I think it's quite logical tbh. I think "per session" payment are profitable only within countries with a well-developed gym culture, where even nerds can be found at the gym. That's - still - not the case in France, and "per session" payment without any contract wouldn't be cost-effective for gym brands.

                I know - because I have some friends who are PT - that French gyms survive thanks to this HUGE portion of people who subscribed to this contract and just went to the gym once or twice before leaving. That's quite cynical when you think about it, but that's how it works.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Oh, I admitted as much posts ago when you said you were French.
                The trick with per session gyms (where I have seen them) is that the cost is usually more than monthly membership cumulatively, and in any case gyms will strongly suggest 12 month contracts when they can. It is still the main business model, there are just options to get around it if you don't buy into their sales pitch.
                And I should stress I do not mean to say that there is something wrong with France on this topic. If you go to Asia for example you will only get a strong gym culture in the philippines, and that is because it was a colony of the US.
                In any case, you should not worry so much. Ça ira, shaking will go away with regular lifting and then when you do shake it will not be with beginner weight. In a few years you might have to confront your genetic limit, but you will be stronger than nearly everyone you see, if not inside the gym then certainly outside it.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                I'm very interested in this "genetics" dimension because my first session ever at gym was with someone I found in some French equivalent of IST and the guy told me at the end of our session that I may have dyspraxia because I was shaking a lot (in his opinion) and my lifts were dramatically low.

                It took me time to get back on my feet from this . I completely lost confidence on my ability to do things right at gym. Because in addition to what I've just said, he was trying to teach me the basic exercises and he was always like "you struggling with [insert any kind of exercise] is not normal, they are instinctive".

                And then he told me: "you can find two different kind of people at gym: those who have good genetics but did not play any sports during childhood or adolescence, and those who have bad genetics but compensated that with sports during childhood, you have neither of the two, and people of your kind are pretty absent from gym because they give up quickly or they do not even think about going to the gym because they are not interested in getting muscular"

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                it would be impossible to tell from someone simply lifting. If you had dysphraxia, it is something you would not display simply at the gym. It would affect your entire life.
                In reality, most people beginning lifting from a point of little physical activity will probably shake. The limbs have not had to ever do any serious stabilising, so of course they will not do it so well when you begin.
                Very few exercises are "instinctive". You need to be told to retract your shoulders and arch your back on a bench press, it is not something anyone just knows. You need to be told to hold your breath and brace your core during a lift, not only is this something that must be told but something you actually don't see many people doing in a gym. They have not been told.
                Frankly, the guy spouted ridiculous bro-science and you should not take him very seriously. Worse, he actively sabotaged your growth. He is not your friend, and should not be treated as an authority on anything. If you think him muscular, it is only because the body has an amazing capacity to transform itself; it can do so in spite of how sloppily one might lift, so long as there is regularity.
                As mentioned, the genetic dimension commonly tends to come about 5-10 years after lifting. You know, when one is as big and strong as one can be without resorting to drugs. Put simply, there is a maximum natural capacity for everyone and some people will have a greater maximum natural capacity than others. However, the majority of people will not apply themselves to becoming big and strong, so it is only a problem if you make it one.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                He was not even muscular, he just had pretty good lifts (90kg at bench press, I know that know he reached 100kg) but he was pretty fat due to a depression following the common curriculum in health he failed to pass. More generally he was very judgy about everything. He's the kind of person who thinks that everyone is mediocre, and everyone should do things like him to glow up (for instance, he was talking about the fact that nobody was reading, and that this made people mediocre)

                I don't know what's the mindset in IST, but clearly in the French IST I mentioned earlier it is bitterness and resentfulness. Lifters will hardly encourage you for your progress, because they think that lifts or bodies like yours already exist so there's nothing to be proud of. On the contrary, every weakness in your body or in your motivation is going to be pointed out. I don't like this mindset, I like justice, when people are recognized for their efforts, even though sometimes it does not pay off.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                100kg on the bench? Oh, that's fine. You know what, you should work to surpass that. 100kg isn't bad weight, don't get me wrong, but people start questioning what they can do naturally about 30-40kg above that, if not more.
                As for his bitterness, la France est un paradis peuplé de gens qui se croient en enfer, non?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                I also live in France and there's plenty of different people that go to he gym.
                A lot of zoomers, usually dyel or just athletic (except for the girls who usually have amazing asses), some late 20's thirty something who are fucking big, and boomers.
                People often assume it's genetic when it's only the result of having led an active lifestyle and having good habits.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Another aspect I want to mention, in France there's no gym open on a 24h/24 7d/7 basis. Gyms are mostly open from 6 AM to 10 PM in the week, and from 9 PM to 7 PM in the weekend. I'm living in Luxembourg now, and gyms are open 24h/24 7d/7. Gym brands tried to do the same in France, but they quickly stopped because of the "mess of some members". I let you guess what they mean by "some members".

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I lifted for years getting mediocre gains, got my T tested, was low, got on TRT and put on 10 pounds of muscle in 3 months. Yes your genetics/natural T production matters a lot. No amount of hard work and diet will overcome low T.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      How can I know if I have low testoterone?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        get your bloodwork done and visit and endocrinologist

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    No. Genetics determine response to training, inserts, frame size, etc. But lifting is about being the best you that you can be.

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    99% of people who whine about genetics have not come anywhere near hitting their genetic potential.

    Unless you are some outlier genetic failure you will look IST after several years of consistent diet ane lifting. Stop blaming genetics.

  10. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Genetics only come into play once you've been lifting for at least 5-10 years. Solid lifting, not fooling around. Until then you haven't hit your limits.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I would have said the opposite actually. Once you've reached 5-10 years, if you have trained correctly, differences across bodies should cancel out each other, whereas when you start, your current body situation depends entirely on your genes (and the sports you played before)

  11. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    if you have bad muscle genes try a sport other than bodybuilding/powershitting
    imagine being born with shit muscle building genes but S tier endurance genes and cucking yourself out of glory because muh anonymoose collective of stand-in internet daddies said cardio is gay

  12. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    No.

  13. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >la France est un paradis peuplé de gens qui se croient en enfer, non?

    Exactement.

  14. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    an enormous amount yes

    i have some muscle groups that grow from 3 sets a week and others that won't after the most fantastical programming

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      How do you explain that?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        uhh

        genetics

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      You are probably the type to think 4-5 sets 2-3 times per week for calves is enough and then be surprised when it isn't

  15. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    > I started lifting two weeks ago with a group of really great guys.
    5 days a week, 2hours per session.
    2weeks later, everybody is miring, noticing some changes, GF, friends, family...

    Genetics mater for aesthetic, the rest 95% is hard work. Don't be a pussy.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Within 2 weeks only you got visible results?

  16. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Have good genetics
    >Mog a lot by looks after a few months
    >Most of them mog me in terms of strength
    Genetics matter much less than you think

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Genetics matters a lot because if you're tall you can put on a lot of weight quickly and look noticeably larger after a short amount of time. Short dudes will peak earlier and look super jacked sooner as a natural, but as an intermediate lifter you'll be more impressive if you're really tall. My experience. 6'3" about 2 years lifting, 180lbs lean.

  17. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >People often assume it's genetic when it's only the result of having led an active lifestyle and having good habits.

    OP here, I hope you didn't understand that from what I've said...

  18. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Lifting is all about fraud tbh
    those buff dudes that are clean? they’re as clean as african politicians

  19. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    yes. your genetics determine how lazy and weak willed you are. genetics determines your capacity to learn and adapt so anything that is "learned" is also genetics

  20. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    It has nothing to do with genetics

    It's about eating properly and lifting, consistently and over a long period of time.

    Fix your diet, train hard as fuck every single day. Be consistent. Hit me back in 6 months telling me why you actually have great genetics but you weren't working hard enough before.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >train hard as fuck every single day
      I’d sooner fucking die than go balls out every day

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        That's probably why you will never reach your full potential.

        What you put in, is what you get out.

        100% effort leads to 100% results.

        70% effort leads to 70% results.

        Take a moment to reflect on that, and where you see yourself in 5 years, 10 years from now. This applies not only to lifting, but any aspect in life, whether it's career, family or religion.

        Be the hardest fucking worker in the room. Mamba mentality.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >It has nothing to do with genetics
      Muscle gaining ability is 99% genetics. Just like height and skin colour.
      >It's about eating properly and lifting, consistently and over a long period of time.
      Any literal retard can do this, look at Ronnie Coleman with his room temp IQ.
      >Fix your diet, train hard as fuck every single day. Be consistent.
      Lots of people do this and are still DYEL after several years.
      >Hit me back in 6 months telling me why you actually have great genetics but you weren't working hard enough before.
      They might have great genetics or they might not.

      The following people think that it's not genetics:
      1. People with good genetics who actually get impressive results and cant comprehend why others don't because they are biased and projecting
      2. Naive lifting newbies who are excited about their new hobby and are getting high and euphoric off their newbie gains which are shortly to come to a halt if they have bad genetics
      3. The delusionals who still look DYEL after 5 years but are still autistically trying specialized workout routines, diets and supplements.
      4. A lot of roiders (who ironically had bad genetics and "hopped on" because they were unsatisfied with their natty results. They stay on roids long enough that they convince themselves they have good genetics
      5. Midwits and brainlets

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Muscle gaining ability is 99% genetics. Just like height and skin colour.

        Height is 99% genetics and 1% environmental (diet while growing up ,any retard can eat)

        Skin colour is 99% genetics and 1% environmental (sun exposure, any retard can lie in the sun)

        Muscle building ability is 99% genetics and 1% environmental (lifting weights and eating right, any retard can follow a program and diet).

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        100% correct.

  21. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    If you're a professional, sure.
    99% of IST posters will never be at that level where they have to worry about it though. Just eat and lift you fags.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Just eat and lift you fags.
      that’s a lot of work tho
      like a LOT

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        It's really not. Hell half of you are probably fatasses who have no problem doing the eating part, you just have to get your activity levels up to match it.

  22. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Tbis questions can only be answered if we got every human on the planet to eat, train, rest, and do everything the same.

    Since we cant do that, we can not reasonably conclude that its all genetics. But no one wants to cope by admitting that people who look bette rthan you also work harder than you.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      That's not because we cannot set up a formal experiment that we cannot have some intuition about the impact of genetics on weightlifting

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