I am one of those people who lift just to become the most attractive version of myself not that I don't enjoy lifting. I really do but is there any point in going beyond this mode if you just want to look attractive and be fit.
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who cares what’s attractive homie, just lift
>who cares what’s attractive homie
women
WOMEN WOMEN, OH GOD LET ME CHANGE MY ENTIRE LIFE FOR A RANDOM bawd
>who cares what’s attractive homie
me
I take one look at the bodybuilders in my gym and think "That isn't me"
I will NOT lift if that is what I will transform into
Just fix your posture and get shredded before you leave the bodyweight room and enter the weightroom and you'll be fine.
Nope. I will not join the musclebloatlord cult. I want to be muscular and moderately strong, you can keep your massive powerlifting records.
>who cares what’s attractive homie, just lift
spotted the gym rat who's 30 lbs overweight.
no, low bodyfat doesn't matter unless your face looks drastically better
yeah, that's the point vast majority of male faces look the best at around 12 percent body fat and women don't really care that much about bodybuilder type physiques anyway.
This is exactly how I feel. My goal is something like 70kg 12%bf which most anons would consider small but it's all you need. Girls pretty much only care about face, abs and arms, in that order. Being lean helps with the first two.
how tall are you?
5'11, 180cm
nice man sounds like your dick is big too
What gave it away aha. Nah but for real it's only like 6".
It’s over bro
im 5'10 and 63kg with about 18-22% bf, 70kg 12% is also my goal, I was 58kg and lean with abs before hitting the gym but i fell for the bulk meme, at least my forearm isnt a stick and im alot stronger
>5'10 and 63kg with about 18-22% bf
Really doubt that you can be that high bf at that height and weight
Confidence and how you carry yourself
Sure, I was talking in terms of physical appearance.
>He fell for the ebin personality meme
Is there a bigger meme?
Have you talked to a guy who is very successful with women? They are some of the most misogynistic frickers around. They view and speak of women as barely-sentient hunks of meat with a pussy on the bottom.
>lmao stupid b***h thought we were official
>nah bro she was ugly as frick, had to hit it from the back to keep it up
>dumb b***h had the nerve to try and kiss me HAHAHA, her breath stank like shit
Paraphrased things you'd hear in most college/gym locker rooms.
If a woman finds you physically attractive she'll excuse anything you say.
What they mean by personality is not a polite good boy that does what he's told but a social high achiever that goes after what he wants.
I doubt there's much difference between your face at 12 and 15 percent
Actually there is significant difference for majority of people
not in my experience. at least in attracting women. i'd say the greater muscle at a higher bodyweight was more useful
it kind of also depends on what type of face you have too. Masculine faces probably benefits more from muscle than pretty boys.
oh ok my face is feminine
Lol
Lmao even
There are WORLDS between 12 and 15% if you have average fat distribution
Depends what you mean but basically no. Slimmer guys look better to us (males) because we prefer leanness to females. That dude you've posted there wouldn't be preferred to a woman to a properly ripped guy.
No that's not you powersharters, you're just fat.
What it's the opposite. Men like and respect size. Women like leaness and low BF. Old women are more accepting of high BF guys but still like leaness.
It depends on what you mean, but the short answer is no. Slimmer guys look better to us (males) since we prefer leanness to females. That dude you posted there would not be favored by a woman over a well ripped male.
>well ripped male
Such as? Someone like David Laid?
Most women under 25-30 would prefer this guy over a ripped dude. Hell people in this thread are underestimating how much muscle this guy has. He is not some 130 lb skelly who does calisthenics in his basement once every 2 weeks. You need an active lifestyle and can't eat like a pig, and good amount of time in the gym for this. Plus this guy has good bone structure with a small waist and pretty wide clavicles that a lot of guys don't have.
disagree. men like shape (they like small or big girls if they are well shaped) women like size (basic caveman dominance)
The answer was and will always be yes.
wow when you put it that way you convinced me, I guess all the actual arguments in the thread can be forgotten
There are no actual arguments in the thread, only calumny and cope.
Short answer, yes
225 6'1, and I can guarantee you that guy in the OP post is small and rail thin.I see these dudes daily in my gym in a medium Tshirt struggling to put up 225 on a bench press. They simply don't eat and are all small. I'd prefer this look vs thin with abs anyday. I also think it's much more attractive. This is just my opinion tho
>I also think it's much more attractive.
How many gfs do you have?
Zero. I can jump on whatever app and have a date anytime, I had a gf for a while but it ended up just being annoying af because she'd keep b***hing how I was looking at other girls and how i was eventually going to cheat on her with a tight asian girl lol.(she was white not fit as most whilte women are)
Eventually I just left her and did exactly what she said. Banged a shit ton of tight asain girls xD Koreans ftw. Those chicks act the part in public but are freaks in the sheets.
reads like cope
I'm genuinly interested in why you think it's "cope". What am I coping for by admitting this anonymously on a fit board. Any good looking guy can pull girls you just take a few good selfie, have confidence and that's it. Girls want a tall, confident well kept man. Again I fail to see the cope little Broski
Using xD and wondering why you aren't taking
seriously.
you've been brainwashed by homosexuals into committing to the cult of mass
no
Women prefer broad shoulders over narrow shoulders
If this guy had a twin with 20kg lean mass on him ANY girl would choose the muscular twin. If you ask them hoes on the street some might disagree on that because they don’t wanna seem shallow and try to be special snowflakes but it’s simple genetics that evolved over 1000s years
I think it does, fat covering all your muscles makes you feel like you regressed. I feel like I looked better before, even tho my muscles are bigger now
Talking about the leanpill
The answer is sometimes
Sex
I have many female friends. I dont//cant frick them because well i don't know. Trust me it goes like this
1.Face
2.Height
3.Hair
4.Abs
5.Hands&underarm/vains
And also just being energy filed man pulls lots of females to you. Not gay also.
>trust the guy with female friends
good one brother
Just go stand in the corner at be sad that you can't have friends. Having a large female friend group is Life.
You need to add Should:Waist ratio to that list.
tier 0
>face, bodyfat, dick(at least for long term) not autist or mentally ill
tier 1
>height hair
tier 2
>skeletal shape(?), muscle, money, personality etc
>height
its already over for me
I'm a 29 year old kissless hugless handholdless dateless virgin who has rejected sexual advances a couple times + didn't reciprocate on multiple flirtatious interactions because I'm not comfortable with my body due to being overweight. Decent face (but fat), tall (6'1 or so) and I'm white with blond hair + broad shoulders with a deep voice. I'm 295 lbs, I went down to 215 or so at one point in the past and I never thought I was attractive enough to reciprocate flirtation/sexual advances. I imagine every woman is already taken with a man who is in better shape than me or better looking.
I used to be 490 lbs and somehow I have no loose skin besides under my upper arms + between thighs. I plan on getting so lean (down to 170-180) that I can see abs in the mirror anytime I want so I can confirm I'm always lean in my brain so I can possibly start trying to get with women.
It's actually over and I feel like an hero'ing the thinner I get because I get more attention from females yet my brain doesn't allow me to reciprocate until I'm not fat. Even if I lost the weight (which I did before), I find something else wrong with me that doesn't "allow" me to flirt with women. My entire life consists of self improvement at this point with no clear goal or end.
It's over.
cool blog, but
>I used to be 490 lbs
how HOW the frick did you ever get that fat?
>I'm 295 lbs
>wants to get to 170-180
>this mentality
good luck anon
This perpetual argument is so fricking moronic. There's no question. They answer's right in front of your 90 IQ face.
GO LOOK AT PIX OF THE MEN WOMEN GUSH OVER. That's your answer you coping moron. Get back to us how many roid-tier dudes you see.
"Oh women just can't admit, even anonymously on the net, they like juiced big boys! They're willing to publicly squirt over movie stars and models and swimmers and thugs and criminals but a big deadlifter?? No sir!"
Lean+tall=more mires
lean+tall=green bean physique that no one mires
Post body lard ass
Women detect the most healthy bodies,not the strongest . Muscle insertions, height, bone length, face etc
Low body fat with some muscle is a marker of a finely tuned hormone system. If you ever give a glance to real amateur porn videos the absolute 10/10 hotties get fricked by tall-ish low bf% dudes.
Girls sometimes want lean pretty boys and sometimes want strong guys (natty only).
not really, most girls want handsome guys within normal masculinity, these two comical outlier types are just easier to tell out of the rest(they are obviously still very attractive to their female counterparts)
It's literally just your waist-chest ratio.
It's why women nonsensically say shit like
>Im into dadbods
they're too stupid to explain that they like men with GOOD waist-chest ratios, even if the man is a bit chubby
it's also why some skellies get b***hes, they luck out with wide shoulders and a small waist
yes. especially if you have a face like this one. some guys maintain a semblance of masculinity and attractiveness when they get fat, but other turn into unrecognizable blobs.
>if you're on the skinnyfat side, there's no point in 'bulking', it's going to backfire. focus on lean for life.