I've had several streaks lasting up to four months, and I never noticed a significant improvement in my mental status or energy levels, let alone the superpowers some of its proponents describe. In fact, it often caused my libido to disappear after one or two weeks, and once I coomed again my cumshot would often be quite disappointing.
On the other hand, I often go through periods where I can jack off up to three times a day without losing my libido, erection quality, or ability to perform with a partner. If anything, the slight loss of sensibility and subsequent delayed ejaculation can be helpful.
As a cherry on top, I've met countless stereotypical Chads who were quite open about their fondness for porn and masturbation. What gives? Is NoFap just a way for neurotics to sabotage themselves?
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You have nothing to lose and the world to gain brother.
get a gf
>he nofaps while having zero sex
You're blueballing yourself for no reason
This. It can be useful if you're detoxing from porn or while in a relationship, other than that its a complete delusion.
Is that the french politcal guy? Forget his name. Completely forgot about him
>Is NoFap bullshit?
Yes. It was intended to be for those who desire to break a porn addiction. It was never intended to give you superpowers or anything like that.
Unironically, the people who swear by it are the same morons who worship pussy anyway and all their improvements are from simply focusing more on other aspects of their lives.
nofap only does anything if you're a porn/coom addict
If you aren't one, then don't bother
NoFap is basically just avoiding a vice. Porn / masturbation is a vice like a lot of other things: Alcohol, drugs,gambling, etc. It's possible for it have a profound negative effect on your life if you let a vice dominate you. NoFap is more for people who know they have a problem with jacking off too much, so they can actually get some stuff done.
Nothing happens but ask yourself, why are you wasting hours every week looking at porn or women when you can use those hours to better improve yourself so you can frick those same women instead of watching them?
If you don't make a change, life won't change.
>those same women
The crazy thing about porn is that anybody with a halfway functioning brain would not frick the women in porn
>hours looking at porn every week
Nobody has actually ever spent more than a few minutes looking at porn, nobody does this besides you nofap freaks
Yes, it's complete bullshit apart from breaking porn addiction, which is a problem. Just jack off once to twice a week without porn and you'll be fine.
I think it's bullshit. I've done it multiple times.
I will say it does have it's positives and negatives. Like you said, NoFap basically destroys your libido after a while. It can also be very frustrating when you actually do finally get horny and just want to jack off.
On the good side though, for me it gave me vivid dreams, very clear skin, makes you look at women more realistically, and makes you slightly more extroverted, but that's really it. Wouldn't recommend if you're not addicted to porn.
It's just another one of these stupid internet-brain false dichotomies:
TOUCHING YOUR DICK IS GOOD AND YOU SHOULD DO IT 3 TIMES A DAY
or
TOUCHING YOUR DICK IS BAD AND YOU SHOULD NEVER DO IT EVER AGAIN
Like everything else in life the answer is somewhere in the middle. I think porn and masturbation addiction actually is pretty bad, but if you do it 1 or 2 times a week is there really a problem?
Porn obsession is an actual problem though. If you're thinking about porn during your normal day, when you're outside and around people then you actually do have a problem.
All I know is that when I abstain for even a few days, I'm more focused and driven at everything I do.
I also notice I'm more persistent against adversity.
I also seem to be getting more feminine attention, but then again I'm in excellent shape, so maybe I don't usually pay attention.
The only coherent scientific research showed that only 6-9 day nofap brings an increaze in T levels.
Basically on day 6 to 9 it is significantly i creased and then falls back to normal, regardless if u fap/frick.
This means that if you are not in a relationship and not dsting, you could try not fapping on workdays. Itd probably increase T for weekend.
I also personally always noticed high horniness just after like 3 days nofap.
Months of nofap imo are meaningless + you can get prostate diseases
Nice. So NoFap all week so that on Sunday I'm on max T and can accomplish some strength related project (I'm thinking about bouldering). And then fap on sunday.
NoFap is stupid bullshit that only effects you if youre going 5x+ a day really. Even then it only applies to loser morons because people who work jobs and have lives dont even have the time/energy to do that. I was 5+ a day for years and the second I moved out and got a job it was twice a day max.
NoPorn however is good for you if you are a coombrain in deep. Your brain is genuinely chemically altered at this point most likely. Porn fricks you up in more ways than just perception of women. Unfollow the prostitutes, unbookmark the sites, delete the folders. Defeat the porn israelite
>Is NoFap bullshit
For normal people it is. For chronic master baters it's akin to a rehab or AA so they preach it.
Porn is horrible for you, it's an emotional abuse. Rubbing one out even every day does nothing, doesn't even lower your test noticeably.
What's weird for me is how closely porn and masturbation are associated in people's minds today. Most people speak of them like they're the same thing.
I suspect this may have something to do with the fact that many men today rarely interact with women IRL. Jacking off to a girl you know and like is far more gratifying than using porn, and not even having a girl to fantasize about must be absolutely mortifying.
Besides, a lot of guys today think women expect you to be some kind of sex guru. In reality, most women are very easily satisfied, and very undemanding towards men they like.
anti porn bros i dont miss scrolling thorugh videos or images of porn, doujins even vr shit. I really miss my coom games tho i might cope and continue that like once a week or some shit. also sexting doesnt count right
I treat porn as junk food. I know the ideal thing is to be a person who doesn't eat junk food, but if you can legit just do it once in a while its fine. If you're ever having difficulty jerking off using just your imagination you're either jerking off too much or getting too deep in porn.
ok
>go months on end doing NF without even thinking about sex
>random day im uncontrollable horny
someone explain this pls
your humanity reasserting itself
if you nofap you better go get a girl to marry and have kids with
if you nofap and stay inside you're just being a dumb c**t
I look at that girl and think she is really attractive but then I remember she has built a thot empire on that fact and nothing else, so then I begin to hate her and all women again for being nothing more than liars and thieves who take advantage of men and their vulnerabilities. I believe my hatred is just and pure and will lead me to salvation. Women will cause our civilization to collapse, but I will admit that are cute sometimes.
I relapse every time I go on IST
I looked deeply into all those reports about how horrible porn is from the nofap threads. The conclusion I walked away with was that the compulsion to jerk off was an issue insofar that it functions like an addiction. The most academic argument I found was that not only can internet gaming be addictive, but so can internet pornography usage, gambling, etc. Therefore Internet addiction should have subcategories available for when it starts to impact your life. None of it truly suggested that you're destroying your brain, nor does excessive orgasm mean that you no longer experience joy from any other part of your life because you destroy your dopamine or make too much prolactin. The compulsion is a psychological issue and if you don't feel like you're detracting from your life and you can file it away under "who gives a frick" then you might as well. The way I see it, if semen retention gives you an advantage, I'm happy for you. If your use of pornography makes you feel bad, I hope you find the strength to stop or get over it. If you can't see a tangible benefit from abstaining nor do you feel convinced by calling the desire to use pornography a compulsion, then you're not missing out on much.
only reason i did noporn/nofap was because i feel like i dont care about anyone else at all. i want to date and get married someday but i think id just be an butthole to them since id only think of fricking them and then dont care. however it hasnt changed anything so im probably gonna go back to doing it and look to fix this some other way
This is unrelated and out of left field, but I have been feeling like I can connect to people better after doing a sales class. When I start to be aware of my tonality and how focused on the other person's POV I have to be to get people to open up emotionally, I've started having deeper conversations that flow better. It might be unintuitive and it might not be helpful, but maybe reading Never Split the Difference might do you some good. If someone volunteers a story that breaks your frickin heart you might feel something
some things are supposed to be learned naturally growing up around people, tons of forced interaction with others has been removed in the modern era so people dont learn how to do basic things like empathize and connect. maybe thats what you found in the book and re-learned.
I can self insert in stories and understand the feelings, put myself in their shoes and the likes but its different from actually caring. ill look into the book though, ive started reading as a hobby recently so itll go in the backlog that ive got building up thanks
I have been practicing semen retention for years now and it really does work, both body and mind is the key. Women are literally gains stealers, why else do you think they desire semen? They gobble it and become blobs of evil.
>Is NoFap bullshit?
For the most part. Only if you're addicted to cumming and it's affecting your life in any way.
No porn seems like a more reasonable logic but tbh... I don't care enough.
i was a daily fapper that did no fap for about 9 days, then broke down, then fapped 10 times in a weekend
Post nose.
I always get an empty drained feeling at the base of my spine after I coom. Especially if I’m cooming often. But, I’ve tried the breathing thing that’s supposed to push semen up the spine or whatever. Still would end up busting in my sleep. I think like with most things in life balance is key. Just jerk once or twice a week and only jerk when you are horny not just bored. The time I went 90 days I did feel more energetic and clear minded, but the main gains I looked to gain were self control gains. Dry fasting and no fap for self mastery can give you a huge confidence boost and help you conquer your desires if you want to prove to yourself you have a strong will.
yes it's bs. just stop watching porn.
No fap is bullshit that I have to make threads telling others that no fap is bullshit and that porn and masterbation is a good thing, that even chads do it. Sure buddy. I try really hard to convince others to watch porn and masterbate. Gee, what could be my motive? Am I israeli or a troony? or BOTH??
No Porn is what matters and you SHOULD stop watching porn. No Fap is complete bullshit
NoFap and by extension NoNutNovember is simply foreplay for relapsing back into addiction. Its not about getting rid of the habit, its all about the "reward" at the end of the month when you finally get your hands on your wiener again for a HUGE LOAD! Or at the end of the "3 month reset" where the implication is that "you're back to normal again! When in reality the real work of addiction continues indefinitely in order to not look at big titty cumbawds again. The real enemy is porn and all NoFap does is reset your dopamine just enough to a point where you open up the hub and it feels as good as it did when you were 11 years old for a minute, but by then you're now back on the wagon where you started, exactly where ((they)) wanted you to be. It's an illusion of false escape.
Just don't look at porn, its as simple as that. You can't just not hit that dick because we are humans that are subjected to abnormal conditions where rape which was something that was normal throughout history is not an option so its the only way to stay out of jail while kicking the habit. You'll find over time that you'll only want to do it once or twice a week if that because you simply just cannot go as hard as you did without the assistance. Why should you do that? Porn is crowd-control, you don't want to be CCed do you? Besides there are actual benefits, no they're not "super powers" but they're desirable nonetheless. I personally noticed increased drive/energy/ambition to do things. I am a lot more sociable/less anti-social. I look at people's faces more/can read their body-language/expressions better.
Goes without saying but all social media is also crowd-control. What better way to get back into looking at cumbawds on a rectangle that having your eyes glued to some TikTok thot in yoga pants all day. Just get rid of it all if you really want to do it. Lines of text on IST is all you need, watered-down normie internet is vapid and dogshit anyway.
Only do it if you have a porn addiction or you're a christian (as jerking off is a sin)
longest streak was around 40 days when I was trying to convert for my christian gf. Couldn't take it and we split a few months later. Went back to my old ways and never felt worse. Porn addiction can be debilitating
>do no fap
>get so incredibly horny I cant focus during work
>fap
>repeat
Ive been so psyoped into thinking fapping destroys your test and gains I feel immense shame and regret every time I do. I still have to do it cause my balls start to hurt after a week but I pretty much just do it once or twice a week now to release myself from my urges. ITs kind of like a duty. I try to do it right before I go to the gym so that I can replenish my vitality right after.
My logical brain tells me im not ruining my gains by fapping but I just cant shake it. I wish i didnt have to fap at all.
>jerk off a couple times a week
>no porn
simple as
no fap is cool if you're cumming your brains out 24/7 and need to reset your shit
I don't do No Fap but I'm trying to get into No Porn. I mainly jerk it to tik toks and celebs now. AI porn is also making a rise so that's helping too. If I do watch porn it's usually amateur stuff but that doesn't make it much better.
bros I'm fricked
with porn i jerk off every other day
without and i hardly get the urge, it's been a month
what the frick
Rip you're libido anon. Without porn I still do it twice a day and want to look at stuff
>all these Godless creatures trying to sway me off my path
Nice try, demons. but I will never fail myself or God again.
Yea theyre just sleeping better i suspect.
noporn being the way to go seems to be the consensus.
surely blasting your ass to bnwo trans sissy chastity cei hypno can't be good for the brain
I got off porn when I allowed myself to truly internalize how pathetic it is to watch it, and I didn't even watch any extreme shit.
The true redpill is that any time you are jerking off to sex you are participating in a long distance cuckold session.
Stop doing that and your mental health improves. Simple as.
Why to you need porn if you can have Italian and French softcore erotica feature films from the last century? They're actually good movies too
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