>a wife that loves him
His wife's "mental health" problems are most likely related to her not wanting to be with him anymore. That kind of goofiness and childlike behavior can be fun and endearing as first, but eventually women get fed up with a man that can't show assertiveness, maturity, and who has a sense humor that doesn't go beyond that of a 10 year old kid. He's probably a b***h in bed too
>happily married >"struggling with mental health"
his wife is depressed because she is trapped in a life she does not want to. The guy is having "rough patches" because his wife doesn't want him. Sounds like a nightmare.
I just realized this isn't the person in the OP. I guess he deleted his account. That thread was the first one that came up when you googled his username
If lifting is truly the only thing that makes you happy then of course that's fine, people might think you're a bit boring though.
I think around 3 hobbies is the norm, I like painting, chess and fitness and people always say how it's a weird combo, but I'm weird so I'll take it
If you can do it enough that you're not staring at tiktok all evening and wasting the majority of your day being moronic then of course one hobby is enough.
Most people who excel at their hobby specialize in that hobby above others
I like a lot of things beyond lifting though. Golf, birds, plant raising, reading, playing a bit of vidya now and then, chess
For a physical hobby, well I mostly do lifting. I also enjoy running, swimming, yoga, hiking, etc. Keeps you in shape and healthy.
For artistic, I like writing. I've been published in a few local papers. But it can be anything. Sculpting, painting, music, photography etc. Something to express yourself through creation. This keeps you calm and chill, in touch with your emotions too.
The technical hobby is to keep your mind sharp and ready. For you to constantly learn. Cliché but I do programming, and I have some of my projects on GitHub. Home automation, building PC's, 3D printing, project car are good examples.
Maybe this is an autistic way to break down life, but I think it's methodical. It makes me fulfilled, personally.
I play with legos, is that technical enough?
Honestly, I have a buddy who has spent thousands of $ on legos. But he has the really complex lego sets that are huge. If you like it more power to you. He's also into guns and photography though haha.
Based nietzchan enjoyer. Do you think GMing counts as artistic since there's some creative writing around the players' stories and designing dungeons? 5e and VtM/WoD if that matters.
>Do you think GMing counts as artistic since there's some creative writing around the players' stories and designing dungeons?
Are you talking about dungeons and dragons? I played it once and thought it was kinda lame. But I don't shit on other hobbies.
Apollonian/Dionysian is a good categorizer, but I don't believe it's exhaustive. Exercise is a good example of something that isn't either one, but still essential for a fulfilling life imo. So would something like skincare be, which I'm into.
>Are you talking about dungeons and dragons?
Tabletop RPGs in general but yeah, I do run dnd. It involves knowing a lot of rules while also developing the social aspect so I had doubts on whether it could be technical due to its depth but
GM'ing is storytelling anon, it's a human tradition that dates back to our neolithic ancestors.
Of course it is.
Depending on how deep you go into it, you could argue it's even more than creative. It's not a creative exercise to really dig deep and empathize with a fictional character to figure out what they would do you so you can roleplay them. It's not a creative exercise when somebody goes out of their way to learn world history so they can identify patterns and implement it into the world they're building. It's not a creative exercise when somebody delves deep into what inherently drives human beings to create a gripping narrative.
makes a fair point. Storytelling is a core part of our species and let us know how people in the past dealt with the problems inherent to the human condition that we still have today. I try to focus my games on the motives of the characters and empathizing with them as well as the themes of the story could count as apollonian.
>Exercise is a good example of something that isn't either one, but still essential for a fulfilling life imo
Absolutely. I've come to no longer see it as some grandiose noble pursuit but merely as something I must do keep myself sharp and healthy and that's helped with my main problem of consistency. >So would something like skincare be, which I'm into.
I assume you missed a *would. Perhaps the third category could count as surrogate activities? Focusing too much on either of the 3 is what makes a man like OP's, for after all moderation in all 3 is important.
Thanks m8s.
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I like som of Ted K's ideas.
But I'm 100% using sunscreen, I don't care if it's a surrogate activity. Though, I don't even think it qualifies as one under his framework.
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If it's too sunny we: >a) Use a hat >b) Hide in the shade >c) Wear clothes that cover your skin >d) Rub cancer gel on your skin
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>I like som of Ted K's ideas.
Don't, they're fricking moronic.
GM'ing is storytelling anon, it's a human tradition that dates back to our neolithic ancestors.
Of course it is.
Depending on how deep you go into it, you could argue it's even more than creative. It's not a creative exercise to really dig deep and empathize with a fictional character to figure out what they would do you so you can roleplay them. It's not a creative exercise when somebody goes out of their way to learn world history so they can identify patterns and implement it into the world they're building. It's not a creative exercise when somebody delves deep into what inherently drives human beings to create a gripping narrative.
GM'ing is storytelling anon, it's a human tradition that dates back to our neolithic ancestors.
Of course it is.
Depending on how deep you go into it, you could argue it's even more than creative. It's not a creative exercise to really dig deep and empathize with a fictional character to figure out what they would do you so you can roleplay them. It's not a creative exercise when somebody goes out of their way to learn world history so they can identify patterns and implement it into the world they're building. It's not a creative exercise when somebody delves deep into what inherently drives human beings to create a gripping narrative.
go read nietzsche again, esp. the birth of tragedy. you will see that this duality is nominally demarcated between that which is logical and requires focus of thought (something technical), and that which requires you to abandon yourself to primal energies (bacchanalian orgy, for example). even though i would say there is a grey area (philosophy), for the most part the lines are pretty much set in stone. what this means is that NO d&d fantasyshit doesnt work. you arent fully immersed, you dont let go of your responsibilities... if you want to be dionysian go Black personmode... smoke a blunt, down a 40oz and go clubbing - stop thinking, and most importantly: sto pcaring
I see your argument for GMing being a more apollonian activity since it requires focus of thought and the previous anon's argument of storytelling being a part of the fine arts as well, even if it is an observer of the human as a dyonisian passionate being that creates the stories.In that case I am glad to know I am also engaging in proper dionysian activities through my interest in goth subculture and fashion, which includes some of the aforementioned Black personmode activities.
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I like som of Ted K's ideas.
But I'm 100% using sunscreen, I don't care if it's a surrogate activity. Though, I don't even think it qualifies as one under his framework.
Ted's crusade is more against the hierarchies and power structures that were created and enabled by industrialization necessitating self-worth through surrogate activities rather than any specific technology. I'd say using sunscreen and therefore the obession with preserving youthfulness he describes as a surrogate activity is bad only in that it enables the power structure that is the skincare industry that will push dysmorphia onto people to sell more useless crap.
That said, I haven't read the studies on sunscreen use and skin cancer relationships so I cannot say whether it is good or bad to use. Gf's always telling me to put it on but as
If it's too sunny we: >a) Use a hat >b) Hide in the shade >c) Wear clothes that cover your skin >d) Rub cancer gel on your skin
makes a point I'd rather not. We all know that "always do the opposite of what the israelites say" is a good rule of thumb.
But if you aren't a roiding professional athlete then there's no way you do enough of it to fill your time. Even working full time and lifting near daily probably leaves you with hours on hours to play vidya or scroll your phone mindlessly. You could pick up a trade, study something, learn to farm your own food indoors under a growing light, fricking crochet something. Call it a woman's hobby all you want but it's masculine as shit to know how to work with fibers and make durable clothing out of wool fiber or animal hides.
You can have virtually any hobby and have a successful romantic life as long as A) you're not weird or excessive about it (ie don't make it your entire personality) and B) you're not ugly. In fact, the more not ugly you are the more you can afford to be weird or excessive about your hobbies. No woman is going to break up with henry cavill because he devoted an entire wing of his mansion to HVAC manuals or whatever.
Unless you're literally working out everyday 3-6 hours and aiming to compete with a goal, then working out should not be the sole thing in your life.
In general you should always be aiming to improve on your body, your mind and being a human being.
The body is easy enough, work out, eat well, all that bullshit.
Sharpening your mind is also equally as important. Pick up useful skills, learn things, all that bullshit. The brain's a muscle, train for it to be sharp and have the knowledge to reflect that training. This translates to professional success along with being able to problem solve effectively, even in tough situations. A sharp mind enables you to be able to more socially successful by having a plethora of things to discuss and facilitates fostering relationships, whether by knowing how to network or by being able to find common ground with others and establishing relationships, either platonic or romantic.
Then the most important part, being a human being. All we are meant to do in this life is experience. That is fricking it. One should strive to collect a vast array of human experiences, literally try everything that won't get you killed or seriously injured. Creative hobbies that inherently involve expression of one's inner self are also good, being in touch with one's emotions and having an outlet to express them is good.
personally I would never reveal any of my hobbies to regular people
not a single person in real life knows what my hobbies are and I just pretend I have none rather than share them
evil freaky deaky
I-I read sometimes... Tried the youtuber thingy too and, and... v-vidya??
battlebits is fun
Is there some website with a female public where i can post op picture with the title "this is your future husband"?
Made me chuckle
crystal cafe
WHO OF YOU DID THIS? HAHAHA
oh no no no incelGODS how do we cope
those comments really gagged you huh
>Channers use "bro" when being factitious
>Crystal cafe says "sis"
POTTERY
Reddit or crystal cafe
>Is not having any hobbies other than lifting acceptable?
Just get an action figure hobby.
REAL MEN play with dbz figures while playing linkin park music as a pre-workout. What's anybody I live with gonna do when I mog all of them?
isn't that what warhammer 40k is?
>he doesn't know that I struggle socially so I didn't take it to heart
He was called out 100% accurately, this part makes no sense
>this guy is happily married with a wife that loves him
>I'm destined to die alone
bros is the 'just be urself' meme real?
>a wife that loves him
His wife's "mental health" problems are most likely related to her not wanting to be with him anymore. That kind of goofiness and childlike behavior can be fun and endearing as first, but eventually women get fed up with a man that can't show assertiveness, maturity, and who has a sense humor that doesn't go beyond that of a 10 year old kid. He's probably a b***h in bed too
He probably has porn induced erectile dysfunction (PIED)
No, that's me
>happily married
>"struggling with mental health"
his wife is depressed because she is trapped in a life she does not want to. The guy is having "rough patches" because his wife doesn't want him. Sounds like a nightmare.
Considering he's a cuck, I would rather be alone
>has to go to a therapist to cope with her totally normal polyamorous relationship
why are they like this?
I just realized this isn't the person in the OP. I guess he deleted his account. That thread was the first one that came up when you googled his username
I play ttrpgs and go to punk shows
no
find more hobbies or you'll live an unfulfilling life and be boring as frick.
eh, its better than not having ANYTHING going on in your life but no i would really recommend having an 'actual' hobby
If lifting is truly the only thing that makes you happy then of course that's fine, people might think you're a bit boring though.
I think around 3 hobbies is the norm, I like painting, chess and fitness and people always say how it's a weird combo, but I'm weird so I'll take it
Idk I joined my countrys version of the National Guard on a dare and now consider that a hobby. Is this ok or am I moronic?
isn't that a full time thing?
Nah minimum in my country is 48 hours per year, but I usually average 48 hours a month and one bigger 2 week trainig excercise a year.
>National Guard
In the US it's part time, usually logistic work on weekends, depends on personal placement obviously
If you can do it enough that you're not staring at tiktok all evening and wasting the majority of your day being moronic then of course one hobby is enough.
Most people who excel at their hobby specialize in that hobby above others
I like a lot of things beyond lifting though. Golf, birds, plant raising, reading, playing a bit of vidya now and then, chess
You should have at least one technical hobby.
>technical
elaborate.
The way I break it down is:
- Physical
- Artistic (Dionysian)
- Technical (Apollonian)
For a physical hobby, well I mostly do lifting. I also enjoy running, swimming, yoga, hiking, etc. Keeps you in shape and healthy.
For artistic, I like writing. I've been published in a few local papers. But it can be anything. Sculpting, painting, music, photography etc. Something to express yourself through creation. This keeps you calm and chill, in touch with your emotions too.
The technical hobby is to keep your mind sharp and ready. For you to constantly learn. Cliché but I do programming, and I have some of my projects on GitHub. Home automation, building PC's, 3D printing, project car are good examples.
Maybe this is an autistic way to break down life, but I think it's methodical. It makes me fulfilled, personally.
Honestly, I have a buddy who has spent thousands of $ on legos. But he has the really complex lego sets that are huge. If you like it more power to you. He's also into guns and photography though haha.
the use of Dionysian/Apollonian label yourself as a pseud, abandon it before it's too late
I don't mind being labeled that. It's a useful categorizer.
it's a wrong categorizer as far as I know thoughsoever
Based nietzchan enjoyer. Do you think GMing counts as artistic since there's some creative writing around the players' stories and designing dungeons? 5e and VtM/WoD if that matters.
>Do you think GMing counts as artistic since there's some creative writing around the players' stories and designing dungeons?
Are you talking about dungeons and dragons? I played it once and thought it was kinda lame. But I don't shit on other hobbies.
Apollonian/Dionysian is a good categorizer, but I don't believe it's exhaustive. Exercise is a good example of something that isn't either one, but still essential for a fulfilling life imo. So would something like skincare be, which I'm into.
>Are you talking about dungeons and dragons?
Tabletop RPGs in general but yeah, I do run dnd. It involves knowing a lot of rules while also developing the social aspect so I had doubts on whether it could be technical due to its depth but
makes a fair point. Storytelling is a core part of our species and let us know how people in the past dealt with the problems inherent to the human condition that we still have today. I try to focus my games on the motives of the characters and empathizing with them as well as the themes of the story could count as apollonian.
>Exercise is a good example of something that isn't either one, but still essential for a fulfilling life imo
Absolutely. I've come to no longer see it as some grandiose noble pursuit but merely as something I must do keep myself sharp and healthy and that's helped with my main problem of consistency.
>So would something like skincare be, which I'm into.
I assume you missed a *would. Perhaps the third category could count as surrogate activities? Focusing too much on either of the 3 is what makes a man like OP's, for after all moderation in all 3 is important.
Thanks m8s.
I like som of Ted K's ideas.
But I'm 100% using sunscreen, I don't care if it's a surrogate activity. Though, I don't even think it qualifies as one under his framework.
If it's too sunny we:
>a) Use a hat
>b) Hide in the shade
>c) Wear clothes that cover your skin
>d) Rub cancer gel on your skin
>I like som of Ted K's ideas.
Don't, they're fricking moronic.
GM'ing is storytelling anon, it's a human tradition that dates back to our neolithic ancestors.
Of course it is.
Depending on how deep you go into it, you could argue it's even more than creative. It's not a creative exercise to really dig deep and empathize with a fictional character to figure out what they would do you so you can roleplay them. It's not a creative exercise when somebody goes out of their way to learn world history so they can identify patterns and implement it into the world they're building. It's not a creative exercise when somebody delves deep into what inherently drives human beings to create a gripping narrative.
no you fricking idiot
ignore this nerds
go read nietzsche again, esp. the birth of tragedy. you will see that this duality is nominally demarcated between that which is logical and requires focus of thought (something technical), and that which requires you to abandon yourself to primal energies (bacchanalian orgy, for example). even though i would say there is a grey area (philosophy), for the most part the lines are pretty much set in stone. what this means is that NO d&d fantasyshit doesnt work. you arent fully immersed, you dont let go of your responsibilities... if you want to be dionysian go Black personmode... smoke a blunt, down a 40oz and go clubbing - stop thinking, and most importantly: sto pcaring
I see your argument for GMing being a more apollonian activity since it requires focus of thought and the previous anon's argument of storytelling being a part of the fine arts as well, even if it is an observer of the human as a dyonisian passionate being that creates the stories.In that case I am glad to know I am also engaging in proper dionysian activities through my interest in goth subculture and fashion, which includes some of the aforementioned Black personmode activities.
Ted's crusade is more against the hierarchies and power structures that were created and enabled by industrialization necessitating self-worth through surrogate activities rather than any specific technology. I'd say using sunscreen and therefore the obession with preserving youthfulness he describes as a surrogate activity is bad only in that it enables the power structure that is the skincare industry that will push dysmorphia onto people to sell more useless crap.
That said, I haven't read the studies on sunscreen use and skin cancer relationships so I cannot say whether it is good or bad to use. Gf's always telling me to put it on but as
makes a point I'd rather not. We all know that "always do the opposite of what the israelites say" is a good rule of thumb.
I play with legos, is that technical enough?
Building the sets, maybe not. But creating your own MOCs and builds, yes definitely.
I think anon meant technical hobbies are ones that require you to think or solve a problem on your own.
Acceptable? You do you.
But if you aren't a roiding professional athlete then there's no way you do enough of it to fill your time. Even working full time and lifting near daily probably leaves you with hours on hours to play vidya or scroll your phone mindlessly. You could pick up a trade, study something, learn to farm your own food indoors under a growing light, fricking crochet something. Call it a woman's hobby all you want but it's masculine as shit to know how to work with fibers and make durable clothing out of wool fiber or animal hides.
Do memes imitate reality or does reality imitate memes?
You can have virtually any hobby and have a successful romantic life as long as A) you're not weird or excessive about it (ie don't make it your entire personality) and B) you're not ugly. In fact, the more not ugly you are the more you can afford to be weird or excessive about your hobbies. No woman is going to break up with henry cavill because he devoted an entire wing of his mansion to HVAC manuals or whatever.
To the majority of people, it won't be.
Unless you're literally working out everyday 3-6 hours and aiming to compete with a goal, then working out should not be the sole thing in your life.
In general you should always be aiming to improve on your body, your mind and being a human being.
The body is easy enough, work out, eat well, all that bullshit.
Sharpening your mind is also equally as important. Pick up useful skills, learn things, all that bullshit. The brain's a muscle, train for it to be sharp and have the knowledge to reflect that training. This translates to professional success along with being able to problem solve effectively, even in tough situations. A sharp mind enables you to be able to more socially successful by having a plethora of things to discuss and facilitates fostering relationships, whether by knowing how to network or by being able to find common ground with others and establishing relationships, either platonic or romantic.
Then the most important part, being a human being. All we are meant to do in this life is experience. That is fricking it. One should strive to collect a vast array of human experiences, literally try everything that won't get you killed or seriously injured. Creative hobbies that inherently involve expression of one's inner self are also good, being in touch with one's emotions and having an outlet to express them is good.
Aspire to be like a Renaissance Man, anon.
personally I would never reveal any of my hobbies to regular people
not a single person in real life knows what my hobbies are and I just pretend I have none rather than share them
Do you accept it? That’s all that matters. Stop asking IST for permission to do what you want.