Training places stress on your body and consumes calories. If you are putting more stress on your body than you can recover from that is overtraining. If you are burning more calories than you consume and you don't intend to lose weight then you are just under eating. The problem is you can never know for sure what you can or cannot recover from until you reach that point. That is why people have the concept of minimal effective training zone. You have to experiment for yourself to identify how little you can do and still see results. Or you can chose to accept risk and just beat your body up overtime. It just depends on what your outlook is and what you want so in that way it is a myth, because someone like Goggins for example isn't going to give a shit if he injures himself anyway.
For an average gym goer, no. There is no way you get to the actual state of overtraining just by lifting weights few days a week. You can get fatigued but it's nothing smart programming and recovery (eating and sleeping won't fix). Actual overtraining syndrome is when it takes months or even years to recover from.
This is lifter mythology, just like keto being a panacea or compound lifts raising your test.
You can absolutely overtrain as an average lifter, in fact with the self improvement trend it's very common nowadays compared to say the 90s when 3x training per week was already considered obsessive.
Nowadays, the average fitness enthusiast has a higher workload than a pro athlete.
>I eat food containing protein. >I didn't actually absorb any of that protein because I could have eaten more protein-dense food.
Genius tier brain you have there.
You have to distinguish between the medical term "overtraining" and just being fatigued from doing too much. I dount there is a single case any regular gymbro has reached a real state of overtraining just by lifting alone.
Yes, Beginners tend to do too much for their work capacity but they usually get injured or demotivated before reaching an actual point of no-return in overtraining which takes months or even years to recover from
Yu have to realize that the "no overtraining" meme is simply wishful thinking by powershitters. It literally didn't exist before the late 00s. Any time before, even hobbyist lifter were told by everyone to be mindful of overtraining signs and that undertraining was better than overtraining.
>I eat food containing protein. >I didn't actually absorb any of that protein because I could have eaten more protein-dense food.
Genius tier brain you have there.
>butthurt
lol sorry your memes turned out to be wrong again.
I've had overtraining syndrome. It literally took 3 a day workouts 7 days per week for like 4 months straight. You're not going to overtrain doing a normal routine
over training in lifting by the actual medical definition of over training? sure. RED-S (which is what lifters commonly refer to as "over training")? absolutely not. very common to overdo your lifting when compared to your recovery capacity.
Overtraining is a myth only if you're a natty aka homosexual. On testosterone it's not applicable. You can train high-reps for 6 hours while a natty (homosexual) will shit his pants in 1.5 hours. There's no such thing as "train to failure" for a man supercharged with testosterone. Your brain's gonna cop out before your muscles do. Dear King, enjoy lightning fast muscle protein synthesis and recovery. Start pinning testosterone cypionate/enanthate today and GRAB your dreams by the balls in less than a year. UNLIMITED PUSSY. UNLIMITED ENDURANCE. UNLIMITED IQ. ALL FORCES ENGAGE! GO GO GO!
Currently I lift five days a week, yoga one, and a 10-12k run on Sundays.
I’ve just signed up for the London marathon, so want to move to three runs a week min, and i also want to start doing BJJ twice a week.
My fiancé insist this will kill me, but my argument is that with enough rest, eating and grouping (ie not doing full body daily), I can manage.
I used to do two a days in Uni when I was rowing (now 28) and I suspect she’s just worried this means I’ll be spending less time with her even though we go to the gym together.
Do you think an old man like me can hack it, or am I flirting with disaster?
Overtraining as in doing too much work to grow or to grow as well as you could be? Definitely. It's very difficult to train so hard to induce medical over training where you're on the verge of rabdosis or whatever the hell it's called, but when I was doing 10 sets for chest twice a week, I was feeling fine, wasn't super fatigued, but the fact remained I simply made no gains because all of my recovery resources were essentially dedicated to muscular repair and there was nothing left over for actual growth and it was only after halving the volume that I saw improvements.
Yes.
no
Training places stress on your body and consumes calories. If you are putting more stress on your body than you can recover from that is overtraining. If you are burning more calories than you consume and you don't intend to lose weight then you are just under eating. The problem is you can never know for sure what you can or cannot recover from until you reach that point. That is why people have the concept of minimal effective training zone. You have to experiment for yourself to identify how little you can do and still see results. Or you can chose to accept risk and just beat your body up overtime. It just depends on what your outlook is and what you want so in that way it is a myth, because someone like Goggins for example isn't going to give a shit if he injures himself anyway.
Idiot
For an average gym goer, no. There is no way you get to the actual state of overtraining just by lifting weights few days a week. You can get fatigued but it's nothing smart programming and recovery (eating and sleeping won't fix). Actual overtraining syndrome is when it takes months or even years to recover from.
This is lifter mythology, just like keto being a panacea or compound lifts raising your test.
You can absolutely overtrain as an average lifter, in fact with the self improvement trend it's very common nowadays compared to say the 90s when 3x training per week was already considered obsessive.
Nowadays, the average fitness enthusiast has a higher workload than a pro athlete.
>compound lifts raising your test.
That is literally true though.
It isn't.
You may notice bodybuilders pin test instead of doing another set of squats. There's a reason for that.
>I eat food containing protein.
>I didn't actually absorb any of that protein because I could have eaten more protein-dense food.
Genius tier brain you have there.
>keto being a panacea
Not lifter mythology. The keto influencers are all DYELs, and half of them say lifting is unhealthy
You have to distinguish between the medical term "overtraining" and just being fatigued from doing too much. I dount there is a single case any regular gymbro has reached a real state of overtraining just by lifting alone.
Yes, Beginners tend to do too much for their work capacity but they usually get injured or demotivated before reaching an actual point of no-return in overtraining which takes months or even years to recover from
Yu have to realize that the "no overtraining" meme is simply wishful thinking by powershitters. It literally didn't exist before the late 00s. Any time before, even hobbyist lifter were told by everyone to be mindful of overtraining signs and that undertraining was better than overtraining.
>butthurt
lol sorry your memes turned out to be wrong again.
I've had overtraining syndrome. It literally took 3 a day workouts 7 days per week for like 4 months straight. You're not going to overtrain doing a normal routine
over training in lifting by the actual medical definition of over training? sure. RED-S (which is what lifters commonly refer to as "over training")? absolutely not. very common to overdo your lifting when compared to your recovery capacity.
I like how they avoided the word women in menstrual disturbances. Not only women have them 🙂
Its not but its hard to achieve and most people who say they are afraid of it are just lazy
Youre not going to overtrain if youre not visiting the gym several times a day or some crazy shit like that
Overtraining is a myth only if you're a natty aka homosexual. On testosterone it's not applicable. You can train high-reps for 6 hours while a natty (homosexual) will shit his pants in 1.5 hours. There's no such thing as "train to failure" for a man supercharged with testosterone. Your brain's gonna cop out before your muscles do. Dear King, enjoy lightning fast muscle protein synthesis and recovery. Start pinning testosterone cypionate/enanthate today and GRAB your dreams by the balls in less than a year. UNLIMITED PUSSY. UNLIMITED ENDURANCE. UNLIMITED IQ. ALL FORCES ENGAGE! GO GO GO!
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Currently I lift five days a week, yoga one, and a 10-12k run on Sundays.
I’ve just signed up for the London marathon, so want to move to three runs a week min, and i also want to start doing BJJ twice a week.
My fiancé insist this will kill me, but my argument is that with enough rest, eating and grouping (ie not doing full body daily), I can manage.
I used to do two a days in Uni when I was rowing (now 28) and I suspect she’s just worried this means I’ll be spending less time with her even though we go to the gym together.
Do you think an old man like me can hack it, or am I flirting with disaster?
>Do you think an old man like me can hack it
Yes.
Based, thank you.
I also think doing this will keep me out of after work drinks so win win.
so i can just do the same full body routine 5 days a week instead of 3
Yes.
Disgusting arms
Who TF actually wants to look like that?
Overtraining as in doing too much work to grow or to grow as well as you could be? Definitely. It's very difficult to train so hard to induce medical over training where you're on the verge of rabdosis or whatever the hell it's called, but when I was doing 10 sets for chest twice a week, I was feeling fine, wasn't super fatigued, but the fact remained I simply made no gains because all of my recovery resources were essentially dedicated to muscular repair and there was nothing left over for actual growth and it was only after halving the volume that I saw improvements.