Is PPL the best split for natural bodybuilders? or is it junk volume?

Is PPL the best split for natural bodybuilders? or is it junk volume?

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  1. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >PPL
    Based
    >U/L
    Based
    >Push/pull
    Based
    >Full body
    Based
    >Anterior/posterior
    Based
    >Legs, Chest/back, shoulders/arms
    Based
    >Left/right
    Based
    >U/L + Arm day
    Based
    >6 day U/L
    Based

  2. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    PPL is unironically too much for a natty unless you are half assing each day with only 9-12 sets
    Natty should be 3-4 days in the gym
    Roiders are the ones who should be in the gym 5-6 days per week

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      so my understanding is you need to break your muscles down which requires lots of effort

      this amount of effort kinda fricks the 6 day routine idea because it ends up being lots of pump work but not as hard

      TLDR: natties have to go hard, cant go as hard if you go 6 days

      is this true

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        more like going hard often fricks you up worse than you can recover from in 3 days, especially for legs.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      I do PPL but I just take a rest day whenever I feel it's needed. I never actually do 6 out of every 7 days.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      I pretty much agree with you. But I think you can push up the number of days in the gym if some of your workouts cause hardly any systemic disruption. Like on a PPL you're causing a bit of disruption to your whole system every day. But if you did Upper/Lower/Arms, unless you're doing CGBP & chin-ups like a jackass, the arm day itself should be minimally disruptive to the point where you can get away with breaking that rule of general no# of days in the gym per week.
      I'm really 50/50 about the Arnold Split where you've got a day for shoulders+arms because it might be sufficiently systemically disruptive to cause problems trying to train on it 6 days a week.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        I basically do arms, upper, lower
        Arm day I can push 100% and be pretty damn fresh. Upper day can be hard, and lower is brutal per usual.

        Whats wrong with doin 9 sets tho. I do ppl 9 sets per bodypart a sesh and doesnt feel any half assed by the end of the workout, plus no systemic fatigue

        I do 8-12 sets per bodypart. Closer to 12 on back, while bicep and tricep I do 8.
        If I don't feel like I put in enough effort I just add a set, and do rest pause till I fail.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          Nice. Though I'd personally be a little bit paranoid with training triceps and then training chest and shoulders with pressing the next day, like I'd be disrupting my triceps recovery potentially. But I've never done the split so maybe it's a moot point

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Whats wrong with doin 9 sets tho. I do ppl 9 sets per bodypart a sesh and doesnt feel any half assed by the end of the workout, plus no systemic fatigue

  3. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    ANSWER ME

  4. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Depends on the quality of your volume and quality of your rest and diet. With that much time on you really can't afford to have irregularities in your sleep or life. But if you have your life and routine really nailed down it's pretty good.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      is 6 day better if performed optimal?

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Doesn't matter if you equate volume. I prefer the 3x3x with the order legs push pull so I can work abs every other day and do cardio on push and rest days. Too many consecutive on days or too long of session tends to frick with my sleep this is just a happy medium for me.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          if my biceps and legs grow the most, is it likely my genetics for their recovery happens to be better?

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            No to the first yes to the second because everyone has genetics that prioritize leg recovery and growth.

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              can you do legs fully 3x a week?

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Sure lot of people do. I wouldn't want to but that's just personal preference. If I had to do legs 3 times a week I probably wouldn't like lifting very much.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                thanks anon
                interesting that everyones genetics prioritize leg growth, never knew that

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                It's true with most animals too. Mobility = survival.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        I've been doing upper/lower six times a week, and I struggle to recover. I'm probably getting too old for working out that much though, I'm 37 and I just guess my body can't handle that much any more. I guess it's more for the teens and people in their 20s.

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