Is protein a meme?
Have there been any studies on eating caloric surplus with a non-elevated amount of protein, Vs caloric surplus with an elevated amount of protein?
Would a regular amount of meat/protein be enough? Aren't vegetables more important?
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>It's bait if you question the efficacy of protein in muscle synthesis in lieu of other nutrients and a caloric surplus
The mental function of the typical IST users has severely deteriorated over the years.
You are a fricking idiot if you do not know the answer to that question. Since it's been answered for decades.
>Would a regular amount of meat/protein be enough?
More protein = more gains, up to a pretty high amount of protein. It's a meme because it works.
No, vegetables are NOT more important. Especially when meat has everything they offer, plus the benefits of animal fats that provide fat soluble vitamins, all of which has been filtered by the animals digestive system.
Gonna need that whole study, not just one image of one graph with not all the units identified.
Because even according to that graph, the data looks fricking scattered as frick. Only a very weak correlation can be drawn. The data is even thrown off by that one outlier.
Answered by whom and how? With graphs like the above? It's absolutely necessary to question if people are operating on data from studies like that, you stupid fricking lemming.
This sample size is so small with such huge outliers and there is no way to know who applied themselves the hardest.
Obviously you should consume protein by I do think it's a massive meme that dyels think they need 200gs a day. Ancient gladiators were noted for their abnormal muscle size from their training and they mostly ate grain.
Training is the biggest stimulus
Yeah. People sperging out over diets are always the DYEL skinnyfats, obese guys that are always "bulking" or the skeletons.
I've literally never tracked macros in my life and think it's moronic autism. If you eat food and move heavy shit you get bigger
>meat has everything they offer
Except
>vitamins
>nutrients
>fiber
>antioxidants
>bioflavonoids
And they don't give you cancer, which meat does.
You can't bait for shit
Did you actually look at this image
They randomly threw a dart and hit 1.6
Clearly the more protein the better, draw a channel
>fat soluble vitamins, all of which has been filtered by the animals digestive system.
What do you think animals are fed my man
I always eat the same amount of protein regardless of cutting or bulking.
There are multiple studies that have found something like 0.7g of protein per pound of lean mass you have is about the cap of what a natural athlete can process in a day with most of those studies adding the standard deviation and stating 0.8g
I eat approximately 0.8g/lb of lean mass every day
The big issues with overdoing protein is that it depletes your testosterone (testosterone's main function is driving protein synthesis for sperm creation and muscle repair/adaptation) and electrolytes as the liver uses electrolytes while functioning
When you overdo protein, you underdo carbs and fat and that makes it so you can't effectively process as much protein as you could have
A big sign of this is protein farts.
Beyond that, using this logic, I ate all my protein from meat, got plenty of fat, good carbs and fiber and peaked my natty bodybuilding at 274lbs @ 8%bf @ 6'4" in 2018
People do a lot of shit wrong in the gym but I would say most gymbros frick up their diet even worse than programming
>Mongols didn't need fire for their food
>Mongols ate mostly meat (and dairy)
????
Yes
Meat was dried or smoked to preserve it for long periods and milk was either fresh or preserved as yogurt or cheese.
do you not understand how salting meat preserves it and how cheese works?
>guys the mongols won so many battles because they ate beef jerky and had stale yogurt
It’s not unimaginable that you actually believe that, because you’re moronic.
Asians cucked themselves out of height and muscles by not adopting Diary products