The most rational man on earth used it once to lose a frick-ton of weight (pic related ELiezer Yudkowsky), and is using it again (he fell off the wagon and regained.).
Has anyone had success with this method?
Is protein-sparing modified fasting (PSMF) the ultimate weightloss hack
Oh great, another thinly veiled antisemitic thread.
>thinly veiled antisemitic thread
It's actually a thinly vailed fatty-hating thread.
There's no veil. Nobody likes israelites.
Oh great, another seething israelite
I can’t tell if this is serious or not and idk who that is but someone like that doing PSMF is moronic.
PSMF is meant, particularly for strength athletes, to be done for 3-6 weeks at a time to quickly cut fat without it truly affecting your performance long term. Of course you’ll be weaker while doing it, but the idea is it’s a short enough duration that upon resuming normal diet you can still hit your normal numbers within a week rather than run it for half a year and then after stopping realize you lost 100lbs on all your lifts and have to spend months gaining it back.
That guy would have been better of doing a potato diet with the same calories. At least then it likely would have taught him how to cook and prepare his own food and then reinforce that discipline by eating 1000 calories a day.
it takes the body 4-8 weeks to become fat adapted on a ketogenic diet
Just sharing my anecdotal experience. Also, did he post any of his weekly dexa scans?
You're gonna crash your test and lose all your muscle. I suspect the good results you see are coming from people who don't need to rely on their diet for hormone production (roidtrannies)
I tried a PSMF for 4 weeks and it was horrible. My dick didn't work for months and it took me quite a while to get my strength back. Basically lost 20 lbs of what felt like mostly muscle.
My testosterone at the time went from near 800 nd/dl to sub 280ng/dl according to my bloodwork.
My cortisol was through the roof as well. I'd never been so angry at nothing in my life. I've only had success with calorie deficits and sane macros.
>You're gonna crash your test and lose all your muscle. I suspect the good results you see are coming from people who don't need to rely on their diet for hormone production (roidtrannies)
>I tried a PSMF for 4 weeks and it was horrible. My dick didn't work for months and it took me quite a while to get my strength back. Basically lost 20 lbs of what felt like mostly muscle.
Eliezer says it doesn't cause muscle loss, and he was getting weekly DEXA scans.
Not sure why his arms are so skinny tho.
https://mobile.twitter.com/ESYudkowsky/status/1620495499634827264
Of course he didn’t lose any muscle, he is already at the bare minimum amount required for locomotion. How the body deals with necessary musculature is not at all applicable for how the body would deal with luxury muscle. We were wrong to surpass natural selection to a degree where people who are this bad at decision making and extrapolating sense from data are not only living past childhood, but also thriving in society. What this man does to his body with the lack of exercise and shit nutrition followed by periods of diets that nuke his endocrine system is without a doubt riskier than a few moderate well planned cycles. If you are a natty who lifts and currently thinking of doing this shit fast to get cut, I would recommend taking a good cycle including a cutting agent. Same chances of fricking your shit up but one gets you jacked and the other will burn half your muscle.
>t. MD for a living sick c**t for life
Yeah pretty much exact same experience as me, took me legitimately months to get my dick working again fully the way it was. Could barely sleep on the diet and would snap on a hair trigger at everything; hormones were absolutely trashed.
I would rather look at the coinslot than Eliezer Yudkowsky. Please stop posting this dysgenic freak.
this guy has had more sex than any IST poster
>this guy has had more sex than any IST poster
He's fat and circumcised; I don't care how much sex he's having.
>PSMF thread
>anons talking about some fat Rabbi
newbies all
I didn't know Lyle McDonald was behind this.
I think he'd tell Yudkowksy that he's not training hard enough, and that his "non-responder" cope is complete BS.
>fat Rabbi
Matzo Fatso
Unless you weight a ton of weight it is not advisable to fast. As long as you're only overweight you can get better results by just eating at a caloric maintanence and increasing your steps per day, cardio and generally upping the volume on your training.
>Unless you weight a ton of weight it is not advisable to fast.
Fasting has a lot of utility for health, the main issues are being dedicated enough to follow it through and breaking the fast properly.
Is everyone in here trolling? This guy literally thinks he's an "exercise non-responder"
>Is everyone in here trolling? This guy literally thinks he's an "exercise non-responder"
Check your metabolic privilege.
Yeah just rub it in our faces, nice going mate. You are one of those 2 workouts a week guys and still shredded. So easy uhg
>Yeah just rub it in our faces, nice going mate. You are one of those 2 workouts a week guys and still shredded. So easy uhg
Big Yud REFUSES to workout or diet.
>Is everyone in here trolling? This guy literally thinks he's an "exercise non-responder"
He claims to be an Ozempic/Semaglutide non-responder too, saying that it couldn't even SLOW the weight gain.
Apparently he's the most metabolically disprivileged person on Earth.
Sad, tbh.
Amazing. Unbelievable that anyone listens to this moron
His idea of exercise is probably something like low resistance stationary bike. Something so easy a completely untrained person could probably do it for 30 hours straight until they pass out. Theses fatties have no concept of what working out hard actually is.
I would like to box him for 6 rounds and beat the living shit outta him. After that we could have a podcast talk about my reasoning, implications and how logical it was
>by not fasting you totally don't burn muscle bro!
Fricking moronic.
When you fast your body burns off all the glycogen
Then starts glycogeenesis (burning protein
Then after 4ish days starts ramping up HGH to 5000% normal levels.
>yo what if we just did the first two steps
It's JUST cico
Your body will burn through fat before it burns protein.
BIG YUD
>asking for chemotherapy because not eating is too fricking hard.
Pseuds like this should be smacked in their faces.
10 years to make some measurements? In that time you could have done so much.
holy shit. i'd like to shove this pseud into a locker but i know he wouldn't fit
I would sooner drink water from an Indian storm drain than take health advice from a flabby yid.
Yes, then add a low dose of steroids to the mix
nope. moronic fad diet.
>hears about keto
>just goes to buy some industrial crap labelled KETO instead of trying the diet properly
He is an idiot or really good at pretending to be one.
>trying the diet properly
Sausage fingers typed this post.
cope
Also, I didn't say keto works. I just commented the dumbass couldn't even do the proper research.
>most rational man on earth
>fat
If he's so rational, then why is he fat?
Clearly he must be a freak of nature whos fat cells are malfunctioning
Then I hope he voluntarily removes himself from the gene pool. It's the rational thing to do.
>fasting or some fasting subgenre where it's not even fasting anymore
>immediately rebounds and gets even fatter
Sounds about right
You people don't know the first thing about fasting, or its history.
that dude looks aggressively israeli
not reading the rest of the thread
>The most rational man on earth used it once to lose a frick-ton of weight (pic related ELiezer Yudkowsky), and is using it again (he fell off the wagon and regained.).
>Is protein-sparing modified fasting (PSMF) the ultimate weightloss hack
The man in picture related + the sentiment you gave is proof enough to firmly answer "No"
Obviously you will lose weight with it because its a big deficit. But what then? It's not maintainable forever and you have not learned out to do something sustainable. Truth is you need to eat and live like non-autists who haven't had their minds poised by internet information do. Just eat a good amount of healthy whole foods and exercise. Do cardio. Cardio is so underrated by the online 'fitness' community (aka bodybuilders that don't want to admit they are bodybuilders so they call themselves fitness).
this homie aint got no protein to spare. look at those arms god damn
looked up PSMF, and i thought that's exactly what keto was supposed to be?? but rethinking it i realised for most of the slobs doing keto, keto just means eating same amount of slop as before, just without carbs
PSMF is literally just a hardcore cut like what pros bodybuilders do before competition. That's literally it. Hitting protein macros and cutting as much calories while doing it.
Fork putdowns are the ultimate weight loss hack, lardass.