She's right about the ridiculous upselling, but the "it's a waste product" shit is moronic. It's a complete source of protein and it's good that we are getting use out of something we used to throw away.
its more like a by-product, funnily enough though people will defend sneed oils which actually are industrial waste before they get heavily refined to be safe to digest.
The underlying facts are right, but she makes a huge leap from those facts to make the blanket statement that, I guess, everyone who promotes it is unaware it's a byproduct. This is common knowledge, even for people who advocate drinking whey. This information doesn't actually say anything about the merits of buying and consuming whey.
/fit/tards will argue against her simply because she's a woman, but yes whey is a byproduct that supplemental companies have realized they can make bucketloads of money off.
Considering sausages are just ground meats, which in most cases are from low quality cuts or ones that can't be sliced into anything of value. Yes. that's why most sausage are high in fat. It's literal garbage parts.
the reason most sausages are fat is because lean sausages are dry and shitty. They usually add fatback, on purpose.
Upton Sinclair commenting on the ruthless efficiency of the animal product food industry:
No tiniest particle of organic matter was wasted in Durham's. Out of the horns of the cattle they made combs, buttons, hair-pins, and imitation ivory; out of the shin bones and other big bones they cut knife and tooth-brush handles, and mouthpieces for pipes; out of the hoofs they cut hair-pins and buttons, before they made the rest into glue. From such things as feet, knuckles, hide clippings, and sinews came such strange and unlikely products as gelatin, isinglass, and phosphorus, bone-black, shoe-blacking, and bone oil. They had curled-hair works for the cattle-tails, and a "wool-pullery" for the sheep-skins; they made pepsin from the stomachs of the pigs, and albumen from the blood, and violin strings from the ill-smelling entrails. When there was nothing else to be done with a thing, they first put it into a tank and got out of it all the tallow and grease, and then they made it into fertilizer.
what about ingenious efficiency? What's so ruthless about using all the parts of the animal? If you want ruthless look at the fur industry or how they got oil for lamps back in the day
Sausages are proper shit meat though. moronic to ever buy them unless you got a butcher making real good quality ones from proper meat.
Whey protein on the other hand isn't shit in any way, it's just a type of protein which happens to be surplus to the process of making another product. People call it overpriced but it's the best value g/$ protein you can get. So if that is overpriced then what protein source isn't? I'm happy to buy it if someone can point me to one which is as cheap and convenient as whey protein.
Dumb roastie, it's not a waste product, it's a byproduct. People have been using whey for thousands of years. That's like saying yolks are a waste product of egg whites.
Most people don't make their own cheese and people will pay a premium for whey. It's worth what people will pay for it, her "30-40x" markup is pulled straight from her ass.
Whey absolutely used to be a waste product for a lot of dairies
https://i.imgur.com/aY2oqLa.jpg
is she right?!?!?!
Sort of right. They also spike it with nitrogen. It’s a nice ‘supplement’ (hence the word) to a high protein diet. You’re definitely better off getting most of your protein from foods like chicken breast and even Greek yogurt. The price is pretty whack, I don’t get it except that the amount of protein you get compared to the amount of liquid whey required is pretty low.
Go tell kids at an elementary school they're all going to die while you're at it. Really drive it home the inevitable reality of their existence. They need to know about it clearly.
I use redcon1 or carnivor and never touched whey in all my life. Whey gives people a lot of digestion issues. I eat a lot of chicken too cause it is cheaper than the full price carnivor.
Upton Sinclair commenting on the ruthless efficiency of the animal product food industry:
No tiniest particle of organic matter was wasted in Durham's. Out of the horns of the cattle they made combs, buttons, hair-pins, and imitation ivory; out of the shin bones and other big bones they cut knife and tooth-brush handles, and mouthpieces for pipes; out of the hoofs they cut hair-pins and buttons, before they made the rest into glue. From such things as feet, knuckles, hide clippings, and sinews came such strange and unlikely products as gelatin, isinglass, and phosphorus, bone-black, shoe-blacking, and bone oil. They had curled-hair works for the cattle-tails, and a "wool-pullery" for the sheep-skins; they made pepsin from the stomachs of the pigs, and albumen from the blood, and violin strings from the ill-smelling entrails. When there was nothing else to be done with a thing, they first put it into a tank and got out of it all the tallow and grease, and then they made it into fertilizer.
She's correct, but she's also a bad faith Twitter grifter so I don't care what she says and if I ever saw her IRL I would cave her head in with my bare hands and booted feet
How come pro-bodybuilders don't use whey when they get it for free? If you watch any contest prep videos like Levrone's video, he eats 6 meals of beef or fish and rice every day and zero protein shakes. In Ronnie's videos he eating all chicken/steak/eggs. Nassar said he never drank shakes and never even worried about protein. I know a bunch of kids who are college football players, they never drink protein shakes ever. What's the reason for this? Is real food better?
Because its easy to get even 250 grams just by eating food.
Unless you have some weird appetite or digestion issue nobody needs to waste money on stupid protien powders.
Just eat a fricking piece of chicken.
But it isn't a waste of money if you save money on food by using protein to get up to 200+g. Do you get this???? Spending less money for the same result is not wasting money, it is the opposite. Does this make sense?????
Besides, most bodybuilders do have multiple protein shakes per day. I don't know about the guys you mentioned but I don't think I've ever seen one who doesn't have any, it's not like they are 100% necessary but they are just convenient.
>waste money on stupid protien powders >Just eat a fricking piece of chicken
Whey powder is cheaper per gram of protein than chicken or basically any other food other than maybe things like beans. That's the main reason people take it.
Think of it getting your protein consumption in terms of busting a nut. Whey is the equivalent of jerking off, it's convenient, it's fast, it's easy. Meals are like sex, carries a whole lot of other benefits along with it other than just busting a nut, for example micronutrients. For some people getting protein rich meals is a luxury so whey
was what helped with hitting their macros. But with the state of greedy whey pricing, protein rich foods are becoming the better choice overall.
It used to be a waste product because it couldn’t be preserved before refrigeration and industrial freeze drying so there wasn’t much demand for it. Now it can be preserved and with all the constant demand for it in every quarter it is no longer just a waste product.
Woman moment.
She's unironically right though.
You need not waste money on meme supplements like protein powders, creatine, "pre-workouts" only to get a 1% "gains boost" at most.
These supplements are very popular with DYELs though.
In the great 'free market' of America you probably would get sued and unless you have good lawyers they'd just drain you of your money through the legal system until you go bankrupt.
She’s right that women need to stop fricking larping
Hardly any women actually put in effort at the gym but they all have to have their le protein shake just like their le starbucks
Overpriced, definitely.
A rip-off, sure.
A scam? Nope. As always, dumb women can't say what they mean. Always gotta exaggerate and abuse the English language.
Do you Blacks realize that you can make your own whey powder? >Buy good quality milk >Make a simple cheese like farm cheese or ricotta >Boil the leftover whey until it's a clumpy concentrate >Leave the concentrate out to dry >Grind it into whey powder in a coffee grinder
how would that concentrate the protein? you just made a concentrate of whatever the frick it is when you boil whey, but boiling it doesnt make it a protein isolate. you very well may be the darkest dumbest gorilla coon i have ever conversed with over IST
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>whatever the frick it is when you boil whey
Yeah, that whatever the frick is called the whey protein, Mr takes cars for innocent joyrides while wearing vantablack
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you would need to remove all the other macros from that whey before it becomes whey protein. its literally just whey, which is fat and protein, my spear chucking fellow.
Yes, it's s a scam. They nitrogen dope the samples they send on all the cheaper brands so they have erroneously high protein content. So there's no remotely economically sound way use whey as a suppliment. The only things it has going going for it is that it's complete protein and it's effectively non-perishable (for 2 years). It being rapidly absorbed is mostly an byproduct of it being a liquid. I've gained more since I went wheyless I believe simply because of how much less of the macros I'm tracking are lies.
Even the most junk form of animal protein (whey) is superior to any non-animal protein. The message should be that we need to take all these people being ripped off by whey supplements and get them eating meat, fish and eggs like god intended, not poisoning them with "muh waste product" plant based propaganda.
People. Hear me out. Gasoline is a byproduct of oil refining process. I`m neither crazy nor baiting glowBlack person. You gotta believe me, people. It`s time to wake up.
does not change the fact that it is easily available, cheap, nutritious and a good-tasting filler for protein needs. Also the word "by-product" is more relevant here.
There's zero nutrition in whey other than amino acids, unless of course if you include heavy metals lol. Nutrition comes from real animal foods not "products".
Whey powder used to substitute meat and actual protein sources is bad, yes, adding it in on a bulk right after a workout due to autism isn't something that's harmful.
Woah I guess I'm a cheesemonger now
Protein is protein, Stacy.
Essentially this. Calling it waste is the issue here
>women
>wh*te "women"
Disregard anything they have to say ever
Shalom
Still calling them that? We call em dog frickers now.
She's right about the ridiculous upselling, but the "it's a waste product" shit is moronic. It's a complete source of protein and it's good that we are getting use out of something we used to throw away.
>we used to throw away.
Whey powder was always used for stuff, fortifying processed food, coating fries, animal feed, etc.
its more like a by-product, funnily enough though people will defend sneed oils which actually are industrial waste before they get heavily refined to be safe to digest.
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just don`t use it as your sole protein source
take glycine to balance the methionine
>take glycine to balance the methionine
Exactly. This also applies if you only eat chicken breasts, egg whites and such too.
The underlying facts are right, but she makes a huge leap from those facts to make the blanket statement that, I guess, everyone who promotes it is unaware it's a byproduct. This is common knowledge, even for people who advocate drinking whey. This information doesn't actually say anything about the merits of buying and consuming whey.
the correct term is 'byproduct", not "waste"
/fit/tards will argue against her simply because she's a woman, but yes whey is a byproduct that supplemental companies have realized they can make bucketloads of money off.
Did you know the "food" known as "sausages" is just a waste product of butchering steaks?
Considering sausages are just ground meats, which in most cases are from low quality cuts or ones that can't be sliced into anything of value. Yes. that's why most sausage are high in fat. It's literal garbage parts.
the reason most sausages are fat is because lean sausages are dry and shitty. They usually add fatback, on purpose.
what about ingenious efficiency? What's so ruthless about using all the parts of the animal? If you want ruthless look at the fur industry or how they got oil for lamps back in the day
I don't know bro, ask Upton Sinclair the author of the Jungle.
Get your sosij from a butcher you trust then.
Sausages are proper shit meat though. moronic to ever buy them unless you got a butcher making real good quality ones from proper meat.
Whey protein on the other hand isn't shit in any way, it's just a type of protein which happens to be surplus to the process of making another product. People call it overpriced but it's the best value g/$ protein you can get. So if that is overpriced then what protein source isn't? I'm happy to buy it if someone can point me to one which is as cheap and convenient as whey protein.
moronic take.
Sausages are shit meat but likely provide better protein unironically than some moron drinking a protein shake while trying to "body recomp"
Dumb roastie, it's not a waste product, it's a byproduct. People have been using whey for thousands of years. That's like saying yolks are a waste product of egg whites.
Most people don't make their own cheese and people will pay a premium for whey. It's worth what people will pay for it, her "30-40x" markup is pulled straight from her ass.
>Most people don't make their own cheese
kek
Whey absolutely used to be a waste product for a lot of dairies
Sort of right. They also spike it with nitrogen. It’s a nice ‘supplement’ (hence the word) to a high protein diet. You’re definitely better off getting most of your protein from foods like chicken breast and even Greek yogurt. The price is pretty whack, I don’t get it except that the amount of protein you get compared to the amount of liquid whey required is pretty low.
at least it's not vegan whey
yes
How is someone promoting it uninformed?
no whey
i love this short legged kot
why are his legs so stubby?
Logging accident. Poor guy 🙁
Munchkin breed. They suffer from lifelong pains because of it
Why did you have to ruin them for me? Frick you go back to spez's shithole they always ruin everything
So their suffering was ok as long as you didn't know about it. Wow dude. You're a real douche.
Go tell kids at an elementary school they're all going to die while you're at it. Really drive it home the inevitable reality of their existence. They need to know about it clearly.
I like all my pets smashed and slammed
>You may live to see man-made horrors beyond your comprehension.
Yes. Keep going.
Dysgenics.
this b***h posts a lot of bait, so there is no need to get all worked up about it, fellas
Fitness influencers will do anything just to avoid eating real meat and it sickens me.
You guys will literally do anything except lift.
I use redcon1 or carnivor and never touched whey in all my life. Whey gives people a lot of digestion issues. I eat a lot of chicken too cause it is cheaper than the full price carnivor.
Wait until she finds out what ricotta is
>waste product
It's not a waste product if it's consumed.
100% specially the markup, shit is literally just waste
That's why I buy mixed protein drinks.
Upton Sinclair commenting on the ruthless efficiency of the animal product food industry:
No tiniest particle of organic matter was wasted in Durham's. Out of the horns of the cattle they made combs, buttons, hair-pins, and imitation ivory; out of the shin bones and other big bones they cut knife and tooth-brush handles, and mouthpieces for pipes; out of the hoofs they cut hair-pins and buttons, before they made the rest into glue. From such things as feet, knuckles, hide clippings, and sinews came such strange and unlikely products as gelatin, isinglass, and phosphorus, bone-black, shoe-blacking, and bone oil. They had curled-hair works for the cattle-tails, and a "wool-pullery" for the sheep-skins; they made pepsin from the stomachs of the pigs, and albumen from the blood, and violin strings from the ill-smelling entrails. When there was nothing else to be done with a thing, they first put it into a tank and got out of it all the tallow and grease, and then they made it into fertilizer.
incredible numbers on an incredible quote
She's correct, but she's also a bad faith Twitter grifter so I don't care what she says and if I ever saw her IRL I would cave her head in with my bare hands and booted feet
You live in a wooden house? Didn't you know lumber is just the waste product of harvesting pine needles?
Watching americans call whey "waste product" just perfectly summarizes how fricking clueless this country is about food and nutrition.
How come pro-bodybuilders don't use whey when they get it for free? If you watch any contest prep videos like Levrone's video, he eats 6 meals of beef or fish and rice every day and zero protein shakes. In Ronnie's videos he eating all chicken/steak/eggs. Nassar said he never drank shakes and never even worried about protein. I know a bunch of kids who are college football players, they never drink protein shakes ever. What's the reason for this? Is real food better?
how is whey not real food?
Because its easy to get even 250 grams just by eating food.
Unless you have some weird appetite or digestion issue nobody needs to waste money on stupid protien powders.
Just eat a fricking piece of chicken.
Why do vegans need to supplement with protein powder?
But it isn't a waste of money if you save money on food by using protein to get up to 200+g. Do you get this???? Spending less money for the same result is not wasting money, it is the opposite. Does this make sense?????
Besides, most bodybuilders do have multiple protein shakes per day. I don't know about the guys you mentioned but I don't think I've ever seen one who doesn't have any, it's not like they are 100% necessary but they are just convenient.
>waste money on stupid protien powders
>Just eat a fricking piece of chicken
Whey powder is cheaper per gram of protein than chicken or basically any other food other than maybe things like beans. That's the main reason people take it.
Think of it getting your protein consumption in terms of busting a nut. Whey is the equivalent of jerking off, it's convenient, it's fast, it's easy. Meals are like sex, carries a whole lot of other benefits along with it other than just busting a nut, for example micronutrients. For some people getting protein rich meals is a luxury so whey
was what helped with hitting their macros. But with the state of greedy whey pricing, protein rich foods are becoming the better choice overall.
Don't care. It's protein dense and delicious.
It used to be a waste product because it couldn’t be preserved before refrigeration and industrial freeze drying so there wasn’t much demand for it. Now it can be preserved and with all the constant demand for it in every quarter it is no longer just a waste product.
Woman moment.
I made ricotta tonight and threw away the whey. No idea what else I should have done with it
>No idea what else I should have done with it
Eat it with some curds, preferably on a small footstool
Be wary of nearby pests
Growing up I had neighbors that made cheese to sell and fed the whey to their dogs. Needless to say their dogs were fricking swole.
My cat's been on the whey for a while now
She's unironically right though.
You need not waste money on meme supplements like protein powders, creatine, "pre-workouts" only to get a 1% "gains boost" at most.
These supplements are very popular with DYELs though.
So that means I can sell it super cheap and destroy the competition
W entrepreneur grindset
In the great 'free market' of America you probably would get sued and unless you have good lawyers they'd just drain you of your money through the legal system until you go bankrupt.
Why would anyone listen to anything this goblin has to say?
She’s right that women need to stop fricking larping
Hardly any women actually put in effort at the gym but they all have to have their le protein shake just like their le starbucks
Eat cottage cheese instead
Overpriced, definitely.
A rip-off, sure.
A scam? Nope. As always, dumb women can't say what they mean. Always gotta exaggerate and abuse the English language.
Dumb b***h. Its not a waste product, it is a byproduct. b***hes cant fathom it.
Gasoline used to be discarded because it was considered a dangerous waste product of kerosene. Gasoline is clearly worthless and a scam.
Wait till she learns about cream skimming and milk homogenisation.
>it's waste
i bet she doesn't drink ethanol or consume oxygen from plants
Do you Blacks realize that you can make your own whey powder?
>Buy good quality milk
>Make a simple cheese like farm cheese or ricotta
>Boil the leftover whey until it's a clumpy concentrate
>Leave the concentrate out to dry
>Grind it into whey powder in a coffee grinder
yes, but thats whey powder, not whey PROTEIN powder, you dumb Black person lover
Those two things are the same, double Black person
no it isnt you dark as night Black person, whey protein powder is an ISOLATION or CONCENTRATION(sound familiar?) of the protein in whey
>CONCENTRATION
Yeah thats what I said, melanin enriched fatherless chum
how would that concentrate the protein? you just made a concentrate of whatever the frick it is when you boil whey, but boiling it doesnt make it a protein isolate. you very well may be the darkest dumbest gorilla coon i have ever conversed with over IST
>whatever the frick it is when you boil whey
Yeah, that whatever the frick is called the whey protein, Mr takes cars for innocent joyrides while wearing vantablack
you would need to remove all the other macros from that whey before it becomes whey protein. its literally just whey, which is fat and protein, my spear chucking fellow.
Yes, it's s a scam. They nitrogen dope the samples they send on all the cheaper brands so they have erroneously high protein content. So there's no remotely economically sound way use whey as a suppliment. The only things it has going going for it is that it's complete protein and it's effectively non-perishable (for 2 years). It being rapidly absorbed is mostly an byproduct of it being a liquid. I've gained more since I went wheyless I believe simply because of how much less of the macros I'm tracking are lies.
protein powder will frick you up in long term. just eat normal food
Even the most junk form of animal protein (whey) is superior to any non-animal protein. The message should be that we need to take all these people being ripped off by whey supplements and get them eating meat, fish and eggs like god intended, not poisoning them with "muh waste product" plant based propaganda.
No shit.
Did zoomers not grow up with little miss muffet? However, wpc and wpi are far more pure than what you can produce at home
People. Hear me out. Gasoline is a byproduct of oil refining process. I`m neither crazy nor baiting glowBlack person. You gotta believe me, people. It`s time to wake up.
does not change the fact that it is easily available, cheap, nutritious and a good-tasting filler for protein needs. Also the word "by-product" is more relevant here.
>nutritious
just like chicken breast it's almost completely devoid of anything but protein macronutrient content
There's zero nutrition in whey other than amino acids, unless of course if you include heavy metals lol. Nutrition comes from real animal foods not "products".
amino acids are an important part of nutrition
Whey powder used to substitute meat and actual protein sources is bad, yes, adding it in on a bulk right after a workout due to autism isn't something that's harmful.
She's 100% right
You should have been eating meat the whole time
Yes, and I'm tired of pretending otherwise.