Never held a cigarette in my hand.
Thought I might start for the aesthetic (looks cool as frick)
how much is this going to frick up my lungs by the time Im 30 (19 now)
is smoking good for you?
Never held a cigarette in my hand.
Thought I might start for the aesthetic (looks cool as frick)
how much is this going to frick up my lungs by the time Im 30 (19 now)
It will wreck you, fool
>is smoking good for you?
No, you inhale smoke. Smoke doesn't belong in a lung.
>Never held a cigarette in my hand.
Good. Did you ever stand beside a fire and had the wind turn the smoke in your direction? Did you notice that poeple avoid this smoke and come home saying >all my clothes smell like smoke. Cirgarette smoke is the same. Avoid it.
>Thought I might start for the aesthetic (looks cool as frick)
Cool. So does an eye patch. Poke your eye out.
>how much is this going to frick up my lungs by the time Im 30 (19 now)
Very much. It will harm your lungs, your teeth, your fingers, your skin, your blood flow, your smell, your wallet and so on.
Smoking is an F tier drug. There are no benefits.
>There are no benefits.
Why do liberals hate smoking so much that they cannot avoid lying about it?
There are absolutely 0 benefits to smoking
There are benefits to nicotine on its own, which is not what a cigarette is
The fact that smoking evokes a visceral reaction from dishonest asshats like you is a benefit unique to cigarettes.
Who said it outweighs the damage? Lol you guys man…..
>+
Advertising told me it looks cool
>-
It kills me and I smell even worse
Better go on IST defending cigaretts
>feel a buzz for the first few times
>get to think you look cool
>after a while just feel like shit without it
>ruin your health
>die from lung cancer
it's nice that you have the ability to look at the bright side of things, even if they barely have any
He is right though. The benefit of smoking is the alertness from nicotine but one cigarette contains about 1mg of absorbable nicotine. If you want nicotine the chew nicotine gum, you can get 2mg per piece, tastes alright, you get jaw gains, avoid all negatives of smoking, and consume a proven safe stimulant.
Seriously smoking is moronic now that nicotine gum is so easy to get and so cheap.
It's okay. They will never come back. It wasn't their fault and you can now forgive them.
I was never mad at him, I think. Just sad
because they have brain damage.
ok, i'll bite. What are they that are so unique that it outweighs the damage?
Smoking is bad and quitting is a b***h, I'm on 11 years and hate it
Lol fricking moron, the nicotine high is extremely short lived after which you'll just be chronically puffing them with zero effects besides fricking up your lungs
>Cool. So does an eye patch. Poke your eye out
I agree do you have more info on this part
Listen to this guy op
I'm an ex smoker. It's exactly what he said, plus worse because you're also dealing psychologically with a hard addiction easily available everywhere
>So does an eye patch
not true
>No, you inhale smoke. Smoke doesn't belong in a lung.
you also exhale it. sure im not saying it's harmless but not as much as you think, also those cotton vacuum cigarette experiments are dumb because of the same reason.
>you drink poison
>but you also piss out it
>so it's fine
your body can handle that poison in moderate amounts and it has certain benefits so yes, it is fine
>There are no benefits.
It boosts testosterone almost as much as steroids do. That and nicotine lowers the risk of degenerative neural diseases later in life by a huge amount.
But yes, inhaling cigarette smoke fricks up your lungs.
Only mouth smoke cigars or pipes.
There's a theory that men were more manly and society had more traditional values and people were smarter in general in past decades (before the lead gasoline exposure to boomers) because tobacco smoking was more common among men and women and it boosted testosterone which promotes intelligence and masculine personality traits and virtues.
How come zoomers with vapes and juul are all moronic skinny waifs
vapes don't boost test like actual tobacco smoke does.
Proven to boost T and make you look cooler at the cost of 10 bucks a pack making you smell terrible aging your face yellowing your teeth and damaging your cardio.
I run 3 miles everyday, just picked up the habit seriously 2 months ago
>25yo
>10 bucks a pack
If only
like 9 bucks of those 10 bucks is pure tax wtf
No
Very bad for your lungs but raises test
Recommend smoking after workouts and when socializing/drinking only
If you are a homosexual with 0 willpower who is not capable of moderation its not really worth it
Also pick up cigars
Worth it for aesthetics alone
Googled it. That’s an album cover and that guy is a blues singer. If he didn’t smoke cigarettes he would be booed off stage comparing a musician to guys on a fitness forum is peak disingenuous.
This
>sucking on a stick
>aesthetic
Anon
fight me homosexual
Yeah the aesthetic of sucking on a soggy stick and paying for the privilege. Glad i kicked this habit years ago.
It's all the jaw positioning, fools. The stick does nothing but put your jaw forward. Same goes for anything like that - cowboy hay / cig / blade / card etc. You buffoons.
no, but zyn is a performance + MALE (DICK) ENHANCER. proven by tucker carlson. the elites don't want you to know that tho.
source: @ 3:55
I always though tucker was a cuck, this changed my opinion, don't judge a person by the character they play I guess, based guy.
Do people really not get that Zyn paid him to do this ad read? He even lists the flavors lol
no morons are plentiful here and why i come to laugh at them kek
Based. I'd recommend NicNac though over Zyn. Much healthier ingredients and no pouch to dispose.
how is that a dick enhancer, nicotine is vasoconstrictor
Nicotine itself has neurological benefits, such as heightened awareness and better short-term memory. Downside is addiction.
You might think you look cool smoking, because cool guys look cooler when they smoke, but smoking just makes most guys look trashier. The health downsides of smoking outweigh anything positive. Erectile dysfunction is common with smokers. I quit smoking 10 years ago and don't regret it at all.
>Thought I might start for the aesthetic (looks cool as frick)
Thats the single most moronic reason to smoke
I bought a pack to smoke on a day I seriously thought about killing myself once. Was always sorta curious and felt a bit of a weird pleasure doing it by my window sill. Maybe because I was a spaz and doing something naughty. The act itself didn't really do much for me aside from that. Was surprised by how little it affected me. I was like, "that's it? That's what people spend hundreds of bucks a month on?" Seemed silly. Smoked half that day and half the next. Aside from a few cigars I got at weddings over the years, I never smoked again
Sounds like my story. Cigs don't really do anything for me except make me dizzy. Cigars however are pretty nice.
no
Depends how addiction resistant you are
If you can smoke 1 a day, not a big deal
If you smoke a pack a day for 10 years... it's over
Although I would personally recommend the occasional cigar over daily cigarettes, as some cigarettes have some very unhealthy filler in them.
I had my first cigarette at 13. Started smoking daily at 15. Stopped smoking daily at 28. I still do smoke on occasion, but I can happily go months without smoking. Now I only smoke on special occasions. I am horrendously addicted to nicotine still tho. Vapes and zyns are essential groceries.
You probably should not start smoking. That said, I could never fully trust a man who can’t enjoy the occasional cigarette. Cigarettes have many social benefits, but they nuke your health. If I knew what I know today, I never would have started.
The big one for me is that they destroy your teeth. Not just by making them yellow af, but they also cause decay. I will need veneers. I have a girl, but if I was single, my teeth alone would be nuking my SMV.
The main reason I switched to vaping/zyn is the cardio. It was actually very difficult to frick well when I was smoking.
Smoking is also expensive. A pack of cigs costs on average $15. It takes a few years to get fully addicted, but in time it will certainly happen, and you’ll need about $450 per month devoted to your smoking habit.
Be able to smoke a cig without being a daily smoker. That’s peak cool.
>I could never fully trust a man who can’t enjoy the occasional cigarette
i feel the opposite. cigarettes are for women and children (cf major/majorette, bachelor/bachelorette, wagon/wagonette). putting that tiny white stick between your lips just looks effeminate. smoke a cigar or a pipe like a real man.
About half of smokers die from a smoking-related cause.
I say no more than 5 cigs a day. Any more will frick your shit. I used to inhale black n milds so don’t say i’m some kind of pussy.
Smoking is fricking nasty though
That shit is disgusting who can even consider smoking cigarettes seriously
It's death, it's literally death wtf
>smoking is le bad
I just KNOW you're vaxxed
It's literally inhaling burning plastic???
Just take NAC to counterbalance and puff away
Stick with just beer lungs (smoke when socially drinking). Being in a semi-death cult has its social benefits. No one likes to kiss an ash tray tho.
If you want the nicotine T benefits use a patch or gum. Ideally have shisha or a cigar on occasion instead. It fricking sucks being out of breath at 28 when you know you shouldn’t be.
So we mostly seem to agree cigarettes are shit. What's the verdict on cigars and pipe tobacco tho?
If you are an ex smoker they will suck too, because you will inhale even if you generally try not to. If you don't inhale the occasional cigar or pipe will be OK.
Will be biggest regret of your life.
Stick with the occasional cigar.
I love smoking. My only regret is that I didn't start sooner
I go through a pack of sobranie black russian a day for about a year now. It's not even a flex it's just that they are much smoother and easier on the throat/lungs than any of the cheaper options.
I go to sleep every night breathing heavily telling myself from tomorrow no more. But the moment I sit in my car my first stop is the gas station where I buy 20 bucks of fuel and a pack of cigarettes. I swear if you could buy a pack of like 5 cigs there'd be much less active smokers out there but obviously cig manufacturers don't want that. Anyhow don't start smoking, maybe steal a cig or two from someone if you need one in social situations and buy them a pack later to say thanks.
>I swear if you could buy a pack of like 5 cigs there'd be much less active smokers out there but obviously cig manufacturers don't want that.
they stopped selling small packs of 10 here years ago since they were alledgedly getting kids smoking
I keep thinking about that, it's impossible that these megacorporations haven't done their research and determined that a 20 pack is the most optimal amount of cigs to keep the user as hooked as they can be. The 10 pack ban is just virtue signalling by the politicians to make it seem like they are doing something to stop kids from smoking. I'm yet to hear of someone who was deterred from buying a pack because it had too many cigs in it
I believe it wasn't the amount of cigs but the price. back then you could get a small pack for 2e, a nice round sum and a single coin any kid can get their hands on from their allowance and they wanted to make buying that pack just that little much harder.
Still obvious virtue signalling, kids/teens these days get much bigger allowances than what the average pack of cigs costs.
I don’t smoke cigarettes since I’m unable to find a company that makes them without a ton of chemicals and shit in them. Instead I smoke cigars. Slightly less unhealthy. If you keep it down to one a week at most your odds of getting any kind of cancer from it are negligible.
Bros how can I taste and smell cigs without actually getting cancer or ruining my lungs?
snus
My best friend got lung cancer at 29. He started smoking at 16. He died four months ago.
How much did he smoke daily?
Every time I read something on IST and think it's the most moronic shit I will ever see, one of you makes a thread that is yet again even more moronic than that.
if you want to smoke to look cool then go for cigars. cigs are for twinks
A lot, and nobody thinks it looks cool.
I don't know how anyone can think inhaling smoke has any positive effects.
Don't mind me just passing a gay thread
>islay whisky
>from sweden
Why are they stealing from us?
Too young. Start smoking when you're thirty and can actually use it to contemplate and have actual shit to worry about.
You obviously don't know how hard it is to be a teen now.
just wait till you're 30 in 2035
but what if Im poor eastern european
Take the ROLL YOUR OWN pill
>better quality tobacco
>very cheap
>kinda fun to roll
>also pain in the ass and takes time so you smoke less
When I go out where there will be alcohol, I roll one or two cigarettes before i leave home so that I have something "bad" to do other than drink. I figure one or two cigs a week is better than getting trashed on drink.
you've got disgusting crumbs filling your pocket and look like a highschooler when you smoke these
I use an antique cigarette case and everyone just thinks they are joints. The only thing filling my pocket is a napkin with your girls number and some spaghetti.
Keep datura / tobacco spliffs and pure datura joints on hand in case you take in too much.
This is good advice, ice also heard datura is a good pre workout, definitely some a little before you hit the gym
cigarettes will frick you up hard.
if you are gonna smoke smoke cigars or pipes
Don't smoke.
My skin is not as glowing as it once was since starting. I got crows feet appearing. I only smoke 4 a day.
only smoke pure nicotine, roll your own or better yet smoke cigars
pure nicotine
ciggies are laced with forever rainbow chemicals that's appealing to mental cripples
if you want to smoke just to look cool don't buy normal cigs, buy herbal ones. Honeyrose cigs don’t contain any nic, tobacco, THC, CBD or hemp they are used by actors. However they do contain tar so keep that in mind
As a former smoker just don't start any nicotine.
I was older than you when I started and only smoked for a few years but near the end I could definitely feel the effects.
First it started with having a smoke or two while out drinking. Then I discovered I could get an actual break in the smoke pit and not have some asshat sergeant grab me for stupid shit. I started smoking more to spend time with the female at my unit and not be called out for fraternization. Then we started living together and I smoked even more.
I was in great shape when I started and in even better shape when I stopped. But every morning I was coughing up nasty shit and I knew I smelled bad. Best decisions I ever made were to quit smoking and get divorced
Don't fricking smoke. It's my biggest regret in life, fricks with my cardio, makes me get winded faster in bed, gives me sore throats and dry mouth in the morning, makes me sick more often.
And do you really think a cigarette will be the difference maker between people (girls) liking or not liking you? It looks cool at the start, but a tobacco addict desperate for nicotine does not look cool, it looks pathetic.
Anyone I see smoking is trash to me
Looking cool while smoking only works if you've already looked cool to begin with, and if you're already looking cool, why start smoking?
No its not
per year smoking kills more than world war 2 + vietnam war + korea war killed per year
this is no joke, is real data
enjoy T boost
Anyone ITT saying anything good about smoking or nicotine is trying to coping with their addiction
Just FYI
Cigs suck. If you're gonna smoke anything at least smoke a downer like weed so you don't need it first thing in the morning to wake up.
gave up looking for a white women. its not my fate
>downer
>weed
I used to smoke a lot (like 5-10 a day) in my early 20s, quit for about 5 years, then started to occasionally light up once a week or so. I’m late 30s, here is my experience;
>is it worth it?
Not really, I haven’t noticed a benefit except brief stress relief. You’re better off just using nicotine gum, snus, or something not cured (curing and smoking is where the carcinogenic properties come from) if you’re after the nicotine. Nicotine is an awesome drug, like caffeine, but with a terrible delivery mechanism.
>will it wreck you?
I don’t think so. But I don’t think it helps.
I was running a 16 min 3 mile, 1:26 half marathon, and repping 225 on bench/315 on squat when I was smoking fairly heavily and drinking daily. You get a crazy buzz if you shotgun a beer and puff a smoke right after running a 16-18 min 3 mile.
I will say that now that I’m older I can definitely feel alcohol and cigarettes more, and I wish I never smoked.
>will I get cancer?
It greatly increases the risk.
>will it raise my test?
I doubt it, but if it does you can refer to the above section “is it worth it?” and reference the safer non carcinogenic sources of nicotine.
I did read a study that occasional pipe smokers (3 or less times a week) that don’t inhale are actually at a reduced risk of cancer vs non smokers, but inhalers or more frequent non inhale smokers are at a much higher risk. Dunno if that means anything.
This is my opinion as someone who has smoked and enjoys smoking; it’s better not to smoke, but if you must try nicotine use a non carcinogenic mechanism.
What do u think my odds are of just using nicotine patches and not getting hopelessly addicted are?
I dunno, nicotine itself was never really addicting to me. It’s not that I couldn’t stop, it’s that I didn’t want to and it was a way to kill time as a milgay.
Currently I smoke once a week or so because a coworker smokes and gives me a cig if I ask, but the actual desire isn’t really there and it’s just a way to cope with a stressful day for a couple minutes, which I don’t really notice any real negative from.
The real issue I have is alcohol. I have gone 6 months without drinking but alcohol is like a demon that’s got it’s claws in me.
So I’d say 50/50, nicotine isn’t really addictive to some people, the same way alcohol isn’t to some people.
if you’re concerned you may be better off never starting, take it from me, you don’t want an addiction and alcohol nearly ruined my life.
Nicotine is not addictive on its own , you will.be fine
I wouldn’t say that, those zynn pouches have increasing doses for a reason.
>Nicotine is an awesome drug, like caffeine, but with a terrible delivery mechanism.
Well said. NRT products are where it's at.
Still sputtering heavy metals into your mouth and lungs and fricking up your teeth
Maybe if you're using garbage like zyn
I'm 36, started smoking at 21. I'd give anything to go back and have never touched a cigarette. Take that for what you will.
Not worth it, trust me. When you realise you want to quit, you wont be able to for months, sometimes years. You'll just keep trying to quit and you just accept that you're going to get cancer.
My dad smoked a pack daily and dropped them cold turkey one day for good. Hasn't lit one in 15 years
What about tobacco tho?
major test boost, almost like taking steroids tier. great nootropics aside from just nicotine. destroys your lungs and oxygen uptake and gives you cancer. the safest way to use tobacco is cigars and pipes and you are 30 times less likely to get cancer using cigars/pipes than if you used cigarettes, but there is still the risk. also cigars and pipes are less damaging to your lungs but I don't know how much exactly.
my worry is that smoking is killing my gains. anyone notice a difference in gains/appetite etc after quitting?
Are cigars better than cigarettes?
As far as I understand you don't inhale the cigar smoke and you smoke them on special occasions.
I stopped in February. Gained weight and developed rosacea and chronic diarrhea. Which CAN happen, but nobody tells you that, ofc.
Too expensive for me now, though, I miss it. Nicotine has some cool effect, but no effects without side effects. In normal times, people would trust you with your own body, but the nanny state today wants a say in what you smoke. Cest la vie.