Ive been lifting for about a week now using the Starting Strength method but every time I do the squat people say im doing it wrong, it also hurts my knees. So is starting strength bullshit and if so how can i learn good form?
SS squat:https://youtu.be/nhoikoUEI8U?si=Cy8Tg4Yr4ozXYeQf&t=261
Online squat:https://youtube.com/shorts/MLoZuAkIyZI?si=yZKyuxQ_T4b4IApk
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Heres a comparison of the squats
Do you guys do the Olympic squat or the Powerlifter squat? Everybody at the gym tells me if I do the powerlifter squat ill frick up my back. Is this true?
I don't see a reason to do LBBS and conventional deadlifts at the same time. Both are posterior chain heavy movements and you end up neglecting quad development.
Deadlifts and leg press it is then
You're probably doing the squat wrong, I POINT MAH NIPPLES AT THE FLOOR just like Rip says and no-one has ever complained
>Ive been lifting for about a week
>I'm questioning the credibility of the program because I can't squat properly
Stay fat
>Stay fat
he plans on it, he's doing SS
Okay what would you guys recommend?
Start SS from just the bar and build up from there then add cardio to your routine
Wait until you herniate a disk doing these meme compounds, then you'll know what real pain feels like. Starting Strength was created by a moronic fat texas boomer and that's all you need to know.
Ive been squatting for over 10 years, youll never do it right, you just get stronger.
this
also, if something doesnt feel right then dont do it.
i dont give a shit if i hit below parelel or not. if it feels like i hit a natural low then i count it. caring about powerlifitng compeition form is how you get injured
Yes and no.
Linear progression is good for beginners, but I think 5x5 is better than by 3x5. With 5x5 you can drop the volume down to 4x5 and then 3x5 as the intensity increases when you progress, but the only option with 3x5 is to lower the weight and for a beginner this a bigger mental barrier to overcome because it feels like a setback.
Power Cleans are pointless unless you're an athlete specifically training for explosiveness. They should not be done by an uncoached absolute beginner.
A row variation helps to counteract muscle imbalance from benching while also helping to build the vanity muscles most guys want.
Some form of direct shoulder and biceps work should be included. Rows, Cleans, and Presses simply aren't enough.
GOMAD is dumb. A lot of people are lactose intolerant and there are better ways to increase your caloric intake without going full bloatlord.
SS has chin ups. Maybe not enough bicep work for some people, but people strangely forget that it has chin ups when making that critique. It's also not an aesthetics program, it's a program for dyels to get solid numbers and good form, which it is excellent at.
You're probably doing the form wrong.
And it could be better.
Also, chin-ups aren't a great beginner exercise because many beginners struggle to do any.
I know assisted chin-ups are potentially an option, but I think they'd be better off doing rows until they can do 10+ chin-ups.
Most people who criticize SS didn’t read the book, or didn’t comprehend it. It’s a beginner program for learning basic lifts and basic programming. Rippetoe even has a follow up book for programming. Dudes come on here complaining that SS doesn’t make them look like peak Arnold in 3 months and think it’s shit.
I also had bad form and pains with the low bar squat at the beginning. Chances are that you're missing flexibility. Keep going and you will eventually get the proper form soon, it's just a matter of time.
every single person on earth should do starting strength even if your goal is purely aestethics and hypertrophy. It's fricking STARTING strength. You do it for 3-6 months, establish a strength base and train your nervous system. Then you stick to the main 4 compounds and start introducing your preference of """"""""""""""""""""bodybuilding""""""""""""""""""""" lifts on top of that.
>you need a strength base
When will this meme die?
Never because its not a meme?
Yeah, you can look like Brad Pitt in Fight Club and be weak as hell, but if you actually want to be big you're going to need to be fairly strong.
>it also hurts my knees.
you're doing it wrong and you need to study the book and film yourself. You can post a form check to the SS forums and rip will look at it.
The SS squat is a knees-back lowbar squat. Knee pain for most people comes from the knees traveling too far forward and thus increasing the moment arm from the internal force at the ankle to the knee joint.
I get terrible patellar and quadriceps tendonitis if I squat highbar. With a rippetoe style squat I have 0 knee pain and I squat 600 :^).
>can you squat 600?
Probably not. But if you are an average male and embrace the power of SS, which has little to do with the actual programming, and much more to do with technique and being willing to grind out an LP, you' can hit 4pl8 at the end of SS.
Thanks for the help anon!
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Do you the oly shoes help alot? I was thinking of getting a pair but my squat is only 215 at the moment and I really wanna improve it.
they help by giving you a solid and stable surface to stand on. The heel elevation isn't really required for a lowbar squat, at least for most people. They're not going to be the key to fixing your 215 lb squat, though.
>The heel elevation isn't really required for a lowbar squat, at least for most people
heel elevation is good cause it relieves stress from your ankle tendons. some people will get injured squatting flat footed.
Impressive, anon. Very nice.