The problem with surgery is it starts and stops with you. Lamarck was wrong. So, what you're doing is tricking women into having sex with you, where you will pass your terrible genes off onto your sad offspring who, in their turn, will also need surgery in order to find a mate, all on down the line.
You're frauding as a genetically successful individual and making a potential lineage of complete frauds or burn-outs whose genes just get worse and worse as the lineage progresses.
4/10 face man w/surgery to look like an 8/10 breeds with a 8/10 woman
Offspring are now 6/10 face
They breed a 6/10 or above, 3rd gen are 7/10 and so on.
Women already fraud, so it's more like 4/10 face man w/ surgery to look like an 8/10 breeds with 4/10 face girl w/ make-up and/or surgery to look like an 8/10
Offspring are now 4/10 and all need surgery and/or make-up to look decent.
Yeah no shit. Adjust for that, or idk maybe don’t breed one that’s makeup frauding and has actually good features without makeup.
hurr how does dilution and random variation work
hint, not like that
Yes it does it’s linebreeding. This is basic, like HS level genetics. >4/10 brown eyed man >8/10 blue eyed woman
Then >5/10 brown eyed offspring
Breeds 5+/10 blue eyed
Makes >5+/10 blue eyes offspring >generations continually breed with more attractive mates, offspring get more attractive each generation
The only way this doesn’t work is if they begin taking ugly less attractive mates. You are attempting to claim, unsuccessfully, that 1 person will doom the genes/physical attractiveness of all generations after him regardless of what the mates look like. By your same logic I should be 5’8” like my father and not 6’2” like the men on my moms side.
Same applies to women, make up, clothes, perfume, etc etc etc.
Women are immensely deceitful as to what they actually look like, what they bring to the table and so on.
Personally I think both should be utterly banned.
Only reconstructive surgery for victims of accidents deserve help.
Women already fraud, so it's more like 4/10 face man w/ surgery to look like an 8/10 breeds with 4/10 face girl w/ make-up and/or surgery to look like an 8/10
Offspring are now 4/10 and all need surgery and/or make-up to look decent.
he just needs to get robust gf instead of chasing dysgenic cute girls
lol if that was true why are there still ugly people?
i mean only 10/10 fricked before plastic surgery after all
unless you dont plan to reproduce at all it will be a benefit to your offspring if you can fraud yourself into fricking a 10/10 with surgery in hopes she will give them her good genes and balance out your trash ones
the only one who is fooled so to speak is your woman and who gives a frick about that
>i mean only 10/10 fricked before plastic surgery after all
No, you completely misunderstand. Before, hot people fricked hot people, and ugly people fricked ugly people. It's true that two 4's made a bunch of 4's, but they knew what they were getting into when they fricked is the whole point.
Also >the only one who is fooled so to speak is your woman and who gives a frick about that
Presumably your children who get your (hidden) trash can genes.
>i mean only 10/10 fricked before plastic surgery after all
Nope. Adolescent male involuntary celibacy is a modern invention.
First you could rape
Then you couldn't rape but you were guaranteed a wife thru arranged marriage
Now if you aren't a top tier male you don't get anything
or you know, morons don/t understand you can pay for your kid/s surgery when they grow up.
morons.
This lmao
It's not like surgery stops existing once you get a kid, plus theres a lot of shit you can do as a parent to improve your kids looks in its development
I’ve seen beautiful have ugly children and ugly people have beautiful children. Sure the chances are better if both are the same, but really it’s still just a roll of the dice.
You're forgetting the part where ugly men don't get to have sex anymore so it's either surgery or end of your bloodline. Guess which one I'd choose, yeah.
if you can't get a hot girl to compensate for shit genes and you get a boy he'll ether be porn addict wasting his life in your basement or troon out and an hero. hopefully you do a procedure that only gives you daughter
>Don't do it anon, don't! >Do not under any circumstance ameliorate the chances to fulfill your primary instinct. >It is not fair to those children who have yet to exist and could very possibly have different traits. >Calmly accept your fate as inferior and remain idle as you slowly perish with no offspring. >Trust me, this is the way.
If you have the money to blow and it’s not a surgery involving implants but rather just realigns your already existing facial structure, I think it’s worthwhile these days.
The justifications for doing so
If it’s as drastic as your picrel, there will be a real tangible difference in life. Not even just dating, merely everyday interactions will be smoother, people will be more drawn to you and easier going, people will treat you slightly better.
We got 4/10s throwing on a cake of makeup and getting fake breasts and BBLs then they go on to live their already easy mode life even easier. That’s what you’re up against, so all fair in love and war sss next point
It wouldn’t be the most degenerate or scummy thing one does to get ahead in life. Most successful people are doing far worse.
So many factors outside just genetics could have influenced your facial features developing how they did. Teeth grinding, mouth breathing, etc. and no one told you what to do while you were developing. You may have had the genes to have a pretty decent 7/10 face, but because you ground your teeth and mouth breathed from the age of 6 all the way to adulthood, you now have a shit chain and jaw and severely asymmetrical face instead. So frick it.
I think social media has really warped our minds. There was nothing wrong with the guy before the surgery, he looked like a handsome guy and he even had a well-defined jawline that zoomies are obsessed over
He does look more like a stereotypical model now, I'll admit. If he was doing for career reasons and had the money to blow I guess it's a defensible investment? But his previous face wasn't ugly or malformed or deficient at all, unless you're one of those looksmaxxing autists.
I feel bad that this guy was swindled out of so much money for no reason. And worse is, whatever peace of mind this surgery bought him, I can almost guarantee that his appearance will trouble him once again; mental tranquility brought through cosmetic surgery, as evidenced by trannies time and time again, is ephemeral, and he will no doubt soon find himself chasing the dragon again.
this, getting unnecessary cosmetic surgery (aka you weren't a freak before getting it) is just feeding into your insecurities instead of learning to accept yourself, so you'll almost inevitably have other issues in the future about your self-image.
There are so many people living fulfilling lives without looking like super models, why do you think that's unattainable for you?
I was very neglectful of my teeth as a kid and teen and they have some stains on the front. Would getting them slightly whitened just so the stains aren’t visible considered acceptable as far as cosmetic procedures go? It’s something I’d never have to do if I actually took care of my teeth in the first place so really it’s correcting a mistake I made, like someone getting surgery to bend their nose back into place after breaking it.
Having an option to be beautiful and becoming beautiful is what so many people wanted. Now that we got it we judge it. Huh.
Some go full autismo and dont suit their needs so they are kinda fricked, but picrel is a slightly above average case.
Getting a moderate (dont bog yourself) amount of surgery to fix flaws is definitely a better use of your time than being a gymcel or being a 60hour week careercel betabux, that's for sure.
Don't neglect skincare and hygiene. And I'm not talking "male" skincare and hygiene where you use a bar of soap on your face.
If you have actual facial flaws, go for it. If your nose has been broken 3 times and is crooked as frick get it fixed, if you have no chin get a chin implant. It will drastically improve your quality of life
The only issue is when people get unnecessary surgeries. When someone who's already a Chad gets surgery they always end up looking worse and getting bogged. My friend did this, kept getting nose jobs when there was literally nothing wrong with his original nose. He was actually very good looking before but now looks like fricking Michael Jackson lol
Also, if you're fat don't bother. You can probably fix your face by getting lean
Yes. It's one of the rare things that actually do improve you. If it didn't work it wouldn't cost as much, there would be no demand for it and it wouldn't have become a META in upper echelon of society.
Meme advice that doesn't work: >mewing >nofap >icing >meme diets like keto, vegan, cico or carnivore
>butthole tanning >whatever FOTM bullshit IST thinks increases testosterone
Actual advice that works: >surgery >getting rich >steroids >geomaxxing
The problem with surgery is it starts and stops with you. Lamarck was wrong. So, what you're doing is tricking women into having sex with you, where you will pass your terrible genes off onto your sad offspring who, in their turn, will also need surgery in order to find a mate, all on down the line.
You're frauding as a genetically successful individual and making a potential lineage of complete frauds or burn-outs whose genes just get worse and worse as the lineage progresses.
4/10 face man w/surgery to look like an 8/10 breeds with a 8/10 woman
Offspring are now 6/10 face
They breed a 6/10 or above, 3rd gen are 7/10 and so on.
Women already fraud, so it's more like 4/10 face man w/ surgery to look like an 8/10 breeds with 4/10 face girl w/ make-up and/or surgery to look like an 8/10
Offspring are now 4/10 and all need surgery and/or make-up to look decent.
>Women already fraud
True. Which is why I won't. I'm not a woman anon.
Yeah no shit. Adjust for that, or idk maybe don’t breed one that’s makeup frauding and has actually good features without makeup.
Yes it does it’s linebreeding. This is basic, like HS level genetics.
>4/10 brown eyed man
>8/10 blue eyed woman
Then
>5/10 brown eyed offspring
Breeds 5+/10 blue eyed
Makes
>5+/10 blue eyes offspring
>generations continually breed with more attractive mates, offspring get more attractive each generation
The only way this doesn’t work is if they begin taking ugly less attractive mates. You are attempting to claim, unsuccessfully, that 1 person will doom the genes/physical attractiveness of all generations after him regardless of what the mates look like. By your same logic I should be 5’8” like my father and not 6’2” like the men on my moms side.
>Offspring are now 4/10
As opposed to not doing surgery and not having an offspring at all?
hurr how does dilution and random variation work
hint, not like that
Same applies to women, make up, clothes, perfume, etc etc etc.
Women are immensely deceitful as to what they actually look like, what they bring to the table and so on.
Personally I think both should be utterly banned.
Only reconstructive surgery for victims of accidents deserve help.
If your children are girls it doesn't matter. All women have higher SMV than men in terms of how much sex they can get.
he just needs to get robust gf instead of chasing dysgenic cute girls
>Women
>Robust
lol if that was true why are there still ugly people?
i mean only 10/10 fricked before plastic surgery after all
unless you dont plan to reproduce at all it will be a benefit to your offspring if you can fraud yourself into fricking a 10/10 with surgery in hopes she will give them her good genes and balance out your trash ones
the only one who is fooled so to speak is your woman and who gives a frick about that
>i mean only 10/10 fricked before plastic surgery after all
No, you completely misunderstand. Before, hot people fricked hot people, and ugly people fricked ugly people. It's true that two 4's made a bunch of 4's, but they knew what they were getting into when they fricked is the whole point.
50 years ago, 4s fricked 4s
These days, 4s (female) only frick 9s (male), while every sub 8 male competes for sub 4 females
Also
>the only one who is fooled so to speak is your woman and who gives a frick about that
Presumably your children who get your (hidden) trash can genes.
>i mean only 10/10 fricked before plastic surgery after all
Nope. Adolescent male involuntary celibacy is a modern invention.
First you could rape
Then you couldn't rape but you were guaranteed a wife thru arranged marriage
Now if you aren't a top tier male you don't get anything
This lmao
It's not like surgery stops existing once you get a kid, plus theres a lot of shit you can do as a parent to improve your kids looks in its development
If your problem is because of mouth breathing then you can simply make sure your kids don’t make the same mistake
This. I’ll train my children to breathe properly and chew a bit harder food. They will be chads and gigastacies
I’ve seen beautiful have ugly children and ugly people have beautiful children. Sure the chances are better if both are the same, but really it’s still just a roll of the dice.
You're forgetting the part where ugly men don't get to have sex anymore so it's either surgery or end of your bloodline. Guess which one I'd choose, yeah.
if you can't get a hot girl to compensate for shit genes and you get a boy he'll ether be porn addict wasting his life in your basement or troon out and an hero. hopefully you do a procedure that only gives you daughter
>Don't do it anon, don't!
>Do not under any circumstance ameliorate the chances to fulfill your primary instinct.
>It is not fair to those children who have yet to exist and could very possibly have different traits.
>Calmly accept your fate as inferior and remain idle as you slowly perish with no offspring.
>Trust me, this is the way.
or you know, morons don/t understand you can pay for your kid/s surgery when they grow up.
morons.
If you have the money to blow and it’s not a surgery involving implants but rather just realigns your already existing facial structure, I think it’s worthwhile these days.
The justifications for doing so
If it’s as drastic as your picrel, there will be a real tangible difference in life. Not even just dating, merely everyday interactions will be smoother, people will be more drawn to you and easier going, people will treat you slightly better.
We got 4/10s throwing on a cake of makeup and getting fake breasts and BBLs then they go on to live their already easy mode life even easier. That’s what you’re up against, so all fair in love and war sss next point
It wouldn’t be the most degenerate or scummy thing one does to get ahead in life. Most successful people are doing far worse.
So many factors outside just genetics could have influenced your facial features developing how they did. Teeth grinding, mouth breathing, etc. and no one told you what to do while you were developing. You may have had the genes to have a pretty decent 7/10 face, but because you ground your teeth and mouth breathed from the age of 6 all the way to adulthood, you now have a shit chain and jaw and severely asymmetrical face instead. So frick it.
I think social media has really warped our minds. There was nothing wrong with the guy before the surgery, he looked like a handsome guy and he even had a well-defined jawline that zoomies are obsessed over
He does look more like a stereotypical model now, I'll admit. If he was doing for career reasons and had the money to blow I guess it's a defensible investment? But his previous face wasn't ugly or malformed or deficient at all, unless you're one of those looksmaxxing autists.
I feel bad that this guy was swindled out of so much money for no reason. And worse is, whatever peace of mind this surgery bought him, I can almost guarantee that his appearance will trouble him once again; mental tranquility brought through cosmetic surgery, as evidenced by trannies time and time again, is ephemeral, and he will no doubt soon find himself chasing the dragon again.
this, getting unnecessary cosmetic surgery (aka you weren't a freak before getting it) is just feeding into your insecurities instead of learning to accept yourself, so you'll almost inevitably have other issues in the future about your self-image.
There are so many people living fulfilling lives without looking like super models, why do you think that's unattainable for you?
I was very neglectful of my teeth as a kid and teen and they have some stains on the front. Would getting them slightly whitened just so the stains aren’t visible considered acceptable as far as cosmetic procedures go? It’s something I’d never have to do if I actually took care of my teeth in the first place so really it’s correcting a mistake I made, like someone getting surgery to bend their nose back into place after breaking it.
What do you think?
only jaw surgery if u have fricked up bite i can accept
I'm getting lower jaw and chin advancement surgery next year primarily to improve my looks, but I've been diagnosed with sleep apnea, snoring and tmj.
I'm told I'm a 7.5 in looks so I'm hoping to bump myself up to an 8 or 8.5 to while fixing functional issues
Having an option to be beautiful and becoming beautiful is what so many people wanted. Now that we got it we judge it. Huh.
Some go full autismo and dont suit their needs so they are kinda fricked, but picrel is a slightly above average case.
I'd definitely do it if I had the money. Life is pain if you're a facelet.
Yes. You should pay top dollar and be aware of how much work you're doing, but done well a procedure or two is an easy +2/10 for the rest of your life
Fitness?
Its saturday, sweaty. /fit is monday-friday, come back during next business hours
Getting a moderate (dont bog yourself) amount of surgery to fix flaws is definitely a better use of your time than being a gymcel or being a 60hour week careercel betabux, that's for sure.
Don't neglect skincare and hygiene. And I'm not talking "male" skincare and hygiene where you use a bar of soap on your face.
If you have actual facial flaws, go for it. If your nose has been broken 3 times and is crooked as frick get it fixed, if you have no chin get a chin implant. It will drastically improve your quality of life
The only issue is when people get unnecessary surgeries. When someone who's already a Chad gets surgery they always end up looking worse and getting bogged. My friend did this, kept getting nose jobs when there was literally nothing wrong with his original nose. He was actually very good looking before but now looks like fricking Michael Jackson lol
Also, if you're fat don't bother. You can probably fix your face by getting lean
Yes. It's one of the rare things that actually do improve you. If it didn't work it wouldn't cost as much, there would be no demand for it and it wouldn't have become a META in upper echelon of society.
Meme advice that doesn't work:
>mewing
>nofap
>icing
>meme diets like keto, vegan, cico or carnivore
>butthole tanning
>whatever FOTM bullshit IST thinks increases testosterone
Actual advice that works:
>surgery
>getting rich
>steroids
>geomaxxing
What did he do exactly? Lips and?
He didn't do lips he just did work on the jaw
It's unironically straight up moronic how jawline is like 90% of male facial aesthetic
I had to double check and frick me, you're right. Incredible stuff.