Is the Lean Pill real or bullshit?
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Is the Lean Pill real or bullshit?
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Frighteningly real. Losing weight is the single most dramatic thing you can do to improve your physique.
So long as you have a decent amount of muscle, that is. There's nothing more disgusting looking than a gangly thin man with no definition, apart from a fatty.
Yes, but maintaining a tolerable amount of muscle is actually quite easy. Bulking for maximum muscle mass & strength requires considerable effort. Running a bro-split, training hard, and eating a clean diet, is not *as* difficult.
can you homosexuals stop posting this delusional shit? some people are good looking and some arent, some ruin their looks by being fat, that doesnt mean everyone will necessarily look good once you cut to 10% bf. if you have a fricking recessed chin you will still have a recessed chin after you reach all the fitness goals in the world.
If u did end up becoming attractive from losing weight then fricking good 4 u but you never should have been fat in the first place, like is this some american thing, do you guys not realize that many people in the world were never not lean in the first place? and yet they are still ugly?
>never improve
you have shit genes? suicide
as least you'll figure out if you're worthy of existing or not by hitting low bf%
win-win for humanity, either you're handsome, or you're a genelet (in which case kys)
thanks
why do you say >never improve
but then say genelets should kys? isnt that just the same thing as what generic incel blackpiller would say? what side are u on?
nice reading comprehension
everyone knows being fat looks worse. however these threads only post the good examples and try to make people believe anyone can be good looking (like actually attractive, not just better than before), which is not true.
AGAIN, many people are already naturally lean without having to diet or work out, and are STILL ugly, remember that populations being overweight/obese en masse is a largely modern phenomenon, what the fk is a 11% bf ugly guy with barely any chin or jaw going to do, go to 7% and look even more emaciated?
In the end, what matters is your bone structure. Losing weight isn't even difficult in the grand scheme of things. If you're fat and you are good looking underneath it all, consider yourself very lucky because now you have a whole redemption arc to go through and you can actually have something to show for it at the end. Don't forget about the people who are simply ugly in general, who wont even have that catharsis after all is said and done. Count your blessings
you cant even tell if youre ugly until youre lean though. most people have a good enough bone structure to be handsome when lean. most people who think they're ugly/need surgery are just >20% bf with no muscle.
are u a bot?
im talking about people who are already lean
maybe you live in some moronic city where everyone you look at is eating burgers all day? well i am not talking about those people ok?
you can tell whether or not you are ugly looking even at 15%bf and below. if the proportions of your face are bad at 14% body fat it's not going to get better when you're sub 10%, your ugly bones will simply be even more prominent and visible. If you find out your chin is half as large as in your pic, then it's not going to change even if you dedicate your life to staying shredded to the bone. understand?
i mean that sucks man. but if ur recessed get that shit fixed.
whining because YOU SPECIFICALLY are just really fricking ugly is stupid. most definitively ugly people are either ogres, in which case it’ll suit them to get big, or have actual deformities like recessed chins that invalidate their whining. leanpill applies to normal people, not genetic deadends (which are BY FAR the minority.)
Didnt even read all that shit. Everyone looks better lean, even if you dont magically become model tier. Simple as.
everyone looks better lean, but sometimes its not even enough to even look decent. its important to understand this reality especially in places like fitness forums where people with poor genetics are looking to find ways to compensate/make up for it. otherwise you get disappointment and college shootings
I get it, but tempering expectations is not going to fix that kind of mindset.
being ugly is not a mindset, it is a reality. stop coping. for ugly people you really have to make the best of what you have, and falling victim to delusions is not how you do that. the world is full of inadequate men who just tell themselves that they are all right
Being lean is making the most of what you have you turbo moron.
I get where you're coming from, but this black pill has to be given out responsibly IMO. Taking hope away from a man is one of the worst things you can do. A lot of black pillers I meet say they're just being realistic when what they really are are crabs in a bucket who want people to be miserable with them.
Some are just mind broken and exaggerating to compensate from a lifetime of being blue pilled, and then it becomes their whole identity
at the same time "crabs in a bucket" has become a typical canned response to any blackpill talk in IST, is this not wrong as well?
I would say it is a canned response, yet it's not really any less wrong than the black pill itself. The power of positive/negative thinking is real no matter how much internet tough guys insist otherwise. That's the real tragedy of it all. The people most black pilled are probably the people who need the most positive emotional support so they can keep going, yet it can be exhausting to help said people because they'll drag you down with their constant negativity.
if someone is going around telling people that their problems are all superficial and that its all a matter of mindset to reach their goals, best believe I am going to call out "positive thinking" for the bs it is. When you help someone who has little to no potential, all you can do is give them what is in reach for them, and it's 100% possible that that is not enough to realistically satisfy them.
yes and you should be lean by default in the first place, whats the problem? just stop gaslighting ugly people into thinking it will make them attractive
dont call me a moron when you cant even distinguish reality from your delusions
homie you sound like you are way too into the black pill yourself, because you're just looking for a fight where there isn't one. Go look back at the first mass reply you did, nobody in this thread was saying getting lean would cure your cancer, fix your career and get you a virgin model girlfriend, just that getting lean is the easiest way towards looksmaxing.
a lean ugly person will always look better than a fat ugly person
>but he's still ugly
not as ugly as if he was fat, he'll be as attractive as possible
also an extreme majority of people i know who lost weight made huge improvements to their facial aesthetics
stop seething over the 1 in 10,000 theoretical genetic dud, and acknowledge that lean = aesthetic
seethe cope dilate
If you're a genetic fatalist you should have a nice day
>that doesnt mean everyone will necessarily look good once you cut to 10% bf.
EVERYONE would look better lean than fat. That's an universal truth. No, not everyone will look like Henry Cavill but that doesn't really matter.
Correct. Going from a 2 or 3 to a 5 or 7 in the face is still worthwhile.
Just for promotions, being happy how you look, etc.
>t. been fat before and lean before.
There are also the added benefits of not feeling like shit, being more efficient, cardio improving by leaps and bounds just by holding less weight, more dick, etc.
Go low bodyfat and surgerymaxx. There is no such thing as ugly people, only poor and fat people.
Powershitter cope is real.
I am not fat and never have been in my life. Who are you talking to?
He already had a good jawline though. But yeah looks great, I wonder how to get to 10% bf without losing all your gains
If this isn't enough motivation for you to quit being a tubby powersharter, and to eat clean & cut, then I'm not sure what is.
Unless you compete, or plan on competing, the boost in strength you get from being a gluttonous pig, is not worth sacrificing your health, quality of life, and aesthetics.
Fuaaark thats good
>singlehandedly destroys any arguments against the leanpill
It would have if you didn't post a man destroyed by his own lean.
>never got over his peak and collapsed under the weight of aging and bad career choices
All fat people are ugly
Does not mean that all lean people are beautiful
Fatness is the the curse of the Anglo.
i think so, this is me around 70 pounds apart
6'3
248 on left
183 on right
ER vibes.
beamer chads rise up!
huge difference, good work
Sweet
Nice clear eyes
Wow that’s amazing, I am seriously impressed. Good job. Diet routine?
Thanks anon, I did 1200 calories a day combined with cardio 4 days a week for around 5 months, strict skincare routine helped too
Awesome man. I am on something similar, hope to follow in your foot steps. Thanks a lot bro.
Yea of course man wish you the best, it’s amazing how big a difference the leanpill makes in your confidence and just how you carry yourself
Appreciate it man
That’s awesome to hear. good luck on your future lean-pill adventures, anon. Hope to post mine in these threads one of these days.
Hope to see it one day anon, I think you’ll be there sooner than you think
Thanks bro, I really appreciate it.
Good job bro keep it up
weak mid and lower face but its much better than before
Great work. Now cultivate good qualities in your soul.
100% real. Only a fool could deny the benefits of leanpilling.
Face>everything else
Real but hard.
Tbh if she wasn't a fatty that would be a pretty sweet deal. Not many women are offering up anonymous (masked) anal right off the jump.
imagine the smell
Very real. Some people have really bad bone structure though so its in their best interest to be fat and to encourage other groups of people to be fat as well.
This is my face at diferent %Bf now i'm cutting again.
brutal lean pill
mirin that ogee curve
These are not the result of cutting from skinnyfat or obesity. These are examples of cuts after several years of bro splitting, a couple years of bodybuilding, or roids.
how do bro splits and steroids affect the face you mongoloid?
I was obviously referring to the pictures where you can see their bodies, brainlet. Also, steroids absolutely can affect your face.
there is only one pic with bodies you moron kys
Four of those guys are famous and their bodies are posted regularly on IST, Black person.
Dude, your fricking pic itself shows VERY CONCRETELY that the lean pill is fricking real. It's literally right there in front of your eyes. Are you fricking moronic?
Yes but we have to educate delusional people
the neckpill is one of the most important factors here, one of the most brutal too
I'm hoping that by losing weight my face will be more proportionate with my neck, but sadly god had to curse me with a thin neck
How do I neckmaxx?
just workout your neck you moron
what that did was make it more defined, which is nice sure, but not wider.
neck is mostly genetic
blackpill: by getting really lean, your neck is guaranteed to lose a lot of mass, even if you train it.
Only those on roids have a thick pulsating neck while lean
Cope, seethe, and sneed
How to keep a hard, throbbing neck while fasting?
Yeah I'm not as big as Oberst but I'd rather have a woman who prefers a guy like that rather than a woman who dumps you if you go above 15%bf. Some guys just can't get lean without losing absolutely all their gains and/or feeling like absolute hell. Whenever I go under 12% I am constantly hungry, have no energy and I'm pretty sure my test tanks. Greg Doucette did a video on this recently.
How do you focus on losing bf? Gotta do cardio?
Maintain (or even improve) lifts while in a moderate calorie deficit.
Cardio mostly just helps you maintain the deficit and maybe build a little bit of muscle if you're totally detrained. But you should be doing it anyway just for general health.
You posted a pic that proves it's real, so what does that tell you?
its bullshit. people look better at a high bf%
Top transformation is unreal what the frick
omegalul
no, people look better when they aren't underweight skeletons and have actual muscle mass
>people look better with the right facial hair
Fixed
Top is puberty + neck and grooming, if it's even the same guy.
Gyllenhaal looks good even in the first picture, it's just the facial expression. He would probably look good even when fat.
Will the lean pill work for me if I'm skinnyfat or does it only apply to obese people?
Probably not very drastically but as a man you are aiming for that dry look. Low bf and tan when done right will at least make people take you more seriously.
I don't need it to do a lot, just a better defined jawline and more definition in my chubby cheeks I think would do a lot for me.
Tanning ages you though
I said when done right, looking like a pale office drone is worse than whatever damage you get from a light tan.
>skinnyfat
Yes it works on you, you're high bodyfat and definitely have a shit diet so have a bloated face.
Its real. The problem is that cutting that low for extended periods of time is unhealthy.
Yes, but but need big traps to make your kneck look thicker, otherwise your face will look silly
I'm right on the edge, my jaws pretty much there but still got fatty cheeks that ruin me. As a calisthenics/rucking/running type lean should be where I stay really. Not gonna fall for the bulking meme again
I bulked for a few years because I needed to prove to myself that I could be strong. It was worth it from a psychological standpoint, but for aesthetics and quality of life, I'm never doing it again. Being fat sucks. Bloatmaxx strength is useless. A 70/30 mix of aesthetics & strength seems best for me. I'm not shredded, but I eat clean, have a flat stomach, and still lift decent weight for my works sets. Best of both worlds.
I was delusional about how much LBM i was actually carrying at 165lbs, getting much more positive response/mires at 155
Single most important pill there is, followed by neck pill.
Correct. I'm glad people are learning.