Wrong. Using a dip belt or weight vest distributes the weight differently from how my body distributes fat, furthermore, including a load besides my own is by definition NOT calisthenics.
You're only limited by your bodyweight and how you leverage it. Basically there's limitless potential for your upper body, but your legs and especially glutes will cap out quicker.
Resistance is resistance. Calisthenics gets a bad reputation in hypertrophy circles because they look at calisthenics athletes who remain small on purpose and only train to acquire skills. If you slow down and actually accumulate volume/repetitions you will see muscle growth. Remember that the hypertrophy rep range is between 5-30.
This anon is correct. In reality bodybuilding, or optimal hypertrophy training should make use of any and all resistance training styles to achieve maximal hypertrophy. Calisthenics and weighted calisthenics are an extremely efficient way to train several large muscle groups and have very high potential for growth.
Vertical pulls for example are god tier for building lats/mid to upper back musculature.
The pressing movements are also good, but once you throw something like rings into the mix you can take the gains to the next level. Weighted ring push-ups are as good as any bench press for chest development, ring dips are great, there are a plethora of excellent movement patterns for hypertrophy with all types of calisthenics.
I won't deny that a lot if not all the advanced movement patterns are skill based and don't involve much if any hypertrophy training, but all the basic movements do and should be utilised.
If you are bodybuilding I really don't see the advantage of limiting yourself in your training style. If you're a fat, bloated powersharter who can't even do 1 bodyweight pull-up then it makes sense to hate on calisthenics.
he looks like shit which is funny cause you said > If you're a fat, bloated powersharter who can't even do 1 bodyweight pull-up then it makes sense to hate on calisthenics
so if a fat powershitter does your homosexual shit he suddenly isn't a homosexual?
Stop looking at homies who train to perform feats of movement. Of course the guy who wants to sell you on his ability to do 1 arm planches is going tockeep himself as tiny as he can.
>Heh don't mind me, just doing some weighted upside down handstand presses
https://i.imgur.com/IHC1FUl.jpg
ah so you have no rebuttal. 'scuse me while I do some weighted ass-pushforwards
Your argument is moronic. With everything in Calisthenics the exercises are you lifting your body. In each of these exercises you're not moving your body, you're moving solely external weight.
Weighted Calisthenics still moves your body, you simply have extra weight attached to your body. The squat is the closest mix between Calisthenics, weighted calisthenics, and weight training. As a squat with a squat bar is still you moving your bodymass as an exercise. Everything else you've posted is not.
>you're not moving your body,
Are your arms not your body? The problem with lying arm presses is that eventually it becomes way too easy to do the movement unless you load it up.
You're talking about open chain vs closed chain movements. Whether something is calisthenics or not depends entirely on whether not you're using an external load.
ah so you have no rebuttal. 'scuse me while I do some weighted ass-pushforwards
https://i.imgur.com/rnNlMCC.jpg
>Heh don't mind me, just doing some weighted upside down handstand presses
You are splitting hair on definitions but it kind of proves the discussion isn't so much about the type of exercise per se but volume/intensity ratio and hypertrophy. The difference is that cali stuff ends up being high volume + skillwork, while weighted stuff is low volume high intensity. At a certain point you need to add extra weight to cali stuff to grow because the volume needed to tire out your muscles becoems too much - but in theory it would still be possible, it would just be like working out with the same 10kg set of dumbells, taking a moronic amount of time. You can add that load with harder exercises to a surprising degree, but it's pretty much impossible for legs past a certain point - and also counterproductive to working against gravity. You will look good in the end following both approaches, however calisthenics puts a visible accent on the upper body and gets you lean, as well as allowing you to do cool shit, while resistance training can give you an overall larger body. So the "limit" depends on your end goal, if you don't practice any other sport and just want to become as big as possible then yes, calisthenics has a practical limit.
Calisthenics creates slow twitch endurance muscle fibers, lifting creates fast twitch explosive short term muscle fibers. Fast twitch fibers are much bigger than slow twitch, but not necessarily stronger or more capable. Depends what you want to do, what your goals are.
Banded pushups and band-assisted pullups are S-tier exercises.
Just don't fall for the progressions meme past the basics. If adding weight is impractical, just add reps. You're way better off.
>progression memes
Literal who saying X thing is bad and what is not calisthenics
Bet you are a mad about the moment you step outside of the gym you have useless muscles not capables of doing anything except the same old lifts Lol
Not him but this isn't an either/or scenario. Both calisthenics and weight training make a very big impact on how you perform in daily life. I work in a conveyor belt system. My weight training has helped me pick up heavy objects whereas my calisthenics training helps me traverse it better.
I can do max 7 pull-ups neutral grip with 10kg backpack. And I can do max 6 bodyweight ring dips but no more for some reason.
Should I start doing weighted ring dips now or try to get to 10 be ring dips in a row first?
What about pull-ups - trying to get more reps or increasing weight to 15 kg?
Not him but this isn't an either/or scenario. Both calisthenics and weight training make a very big impact on how you perform in daily life. I work in a conveyor belt system. My weight training has helped me pick up heavy objects whereas my calisthenics training helps me traverse it better.
Today i did barbell preacher curls 5 series: 12,14,11,11,12 and 5 series of ring dips - 6,7,6,6,8. Except i failed at rep 8 - i could not lift myself from down position. I fell and i breathed deeply like if i just ran few miles after 20 seconds i was able to do my 8th rep. So i failed this 8th rep because my cardio condition is bad, and i should do more cardio like running? Or is it because muscle hypertrophy?
[...]
>Check out videos from Mischa Schultz or Sthenics on dip form. Technique variations for hitting some muscles more are bs for me, just change grip width whether you're tricep or chest dominant.
So i watched his video today and tried to keep chest/shoulders not recessed etc. This guy also mentioned in video if you are too weak for that, it will be easier if you work on your pecs specifically and he mentioned pushups. In this video
Do you think i should incorporate pushups too? After dips+preacher curls workout or other day after pullups day? 5 series or 1 series till failure?
Today after doing dips i did 17 pushups (close to failure) but after that i had to go eating
>should do more cardio like running? Or is it because muscle hypertrophy?
Did your reps slow down towards the end of the set and burn like a b***h? If yes, it was resistance induced. If you were just out of breath and tired you need more cardio.
You mean front lever? I'm almost there with that one but planche is like too fricking hard right now and for some reason back lever was super easy, barely an inconvenience.
Good numbers, but it's not calisthenics. You're lifting weights presumably chained to your hips.
Honestly I see both sides of the argument. While yes you are using weights, you could pretend you had put on a shit ton of bodyweight and that's what's dragging you down, this is especially true if you have it strapped to your back (like I do). If you're doing pushups etc. that way, it looks a lot more like calisthenics and uses the theory of calisthenics than regular-ass weight training.
Maybe there should be a new word for it but it would be quite sillly imo to give up doing great calisthenics exercises because they have gotten too easy and you refuse to add any weight.
So? what's wrong with weight training you dumb homosexual?
Calisthenics needs much less weight barbell lifts and since you're trying to put on muscle needing less weight to put on more muscle is always good
Absolutely nothing is wrong with weight training. I utilize both training styles, but adding weights to ANY movement is not calisthenics.
Yeah, I know I'm being baited. In retrospect, I'm upset that I wasted my time on such a moronic discussion. I'm going to go do some pushups.
don't even bother replying to that dude he is farming yous
Not baiting. My position is that calisthenics is purely bodyweight.
>I would never claim that the movements are the same
Right. Because one is fundamentally a calisthenics movement that involves manipulating one's own body, with the utilization of a weight vest which distributes weight across the body and musculature in a completely different way (so as to simulate additional bodyweight), and a significant portion of the resistance still comes from one's own bodyweight. Hence, it is adequately described as a weighted calisthenics exercise. Meanwhile, a bench press involves manipulating an external barbell, and does not involve utilizing one's own bodyweight as resistance in any way. It is weight lifting. Both, I think it's fair to say, are forms of weight training.
Pretty much the only example from this post [...] where your point of view actually has some credence is with regards to squats, and even then, the loading of a weight vest and the dynamics of the movement are going to be far more similar to a plain bodyweight squat than that of a barbell on your back. All of this discussion is moot, anyway, because "weighted calisthenics" is an accepted and regularly used term that people immediately understand the meaning of, and autistic pedantry isn't going to change that.
You are describing the difference between open and closed chain movements. What makes something calisthenics is the absence of an external load. Colloquial terminology isn't necessarily correct.
>Absolutely nothing is wrong with weight training. I utilize both training styles, but adding weights to ANY movement is not calisthenics.
Kind of autistic....
yeah most calisthenics dudes are skinny or super lean because they want to or just don't eat enough
i used to do a lot of push ups but only the regular ones, and when i went to the gym with my friends i could lift 80kg on bench press with ease and they were all surprised. i think a lot of repetition does increase strength unlike what people normally say
This is a perfect example of the problem with calisthenics. Yes you can build a lot of muscle, but it will be much harder to keep your physique balanced.
He did 2 exercises. If he head handstand push-ups and rows and bridges, his gains would have been more impressive as well.
It just shows that consistent effort on a caloric surplus for high volume and frequency will provide great results.
He built it with weightlifting and calisthenics, and according to him, he hasn't lifted in a long time, and only does calisthenics (including weighted calisthenics) nowadays.
[...]
Honestly I see both sides of the argument. While yes you are using weights, you could pretend you had put on a shit ton of bodyweight and that's what's dragging you down, this is especially true if you have it strapped to your back (like I do). If you're doing pushups etc. that way, it looks a lot more like calisthenics and uses the theory of calisthenics than regular-ass weight training.
Maybe there should be a new word for it but it would be quite sillly imo to give up doing great calisthenics exercises because they have gotten too easy and you refuse to add any weight.
>it would be quite sillly imo to give up doing great calisthenics exercises because they have gotten too easy and you refuse to add any weight.
I agree with you. Squats for example get even better when you add weight, but I won't consider them calisthenics the second I load them up.
Okay? The terms are not mutually exclusive. You're still performing calisthenics movements, just with a vest to simulate additional weight. Hence, weighted calisthenics. This is distinct from traditional weight lifting. Both are forms of weight training. I guess if you want to be extremely pedantic about it, sure, it isn't "pure" calisthenics or whatever, but the average person isn't as autistic as you and isn't going to fuss about the term "weighted calisthenics".
6 months ago
Anonymous
They are 100% mutually exclusive. If they aren't you get :
https://i.imgur.com/5g0OsxY.jpg
>yeah bro I love calisthenics! >weighted lying arm presses are my favorite!
https://i.imgur.com/rnNlMCC.jpg
>Heh don't mind me, just doing some weighted upside down handstand presses
https://i.imgur.com/IHC1FUl.jpg
ah so you have no rebuttal. 'scuse me while I do some weighted ass-pushforwards
https://i.imgur.com/drxkC66.jpg
Excuse me as I perform my two legged weighted pistol squat, good day sir
https://i.imgur.com/jiWubSZ.jpg
Take a gander at this particularly skilled calisthenics athlete!
6 months ago
Anonymous
>gain 50lbs of fat and do a pushup >calisthenics >put 50lbs into a weight vest and do a pushup >pushup magically becomes the exact same thing as a bench press
6 months ago
Anonymous
>gain 50lbs of fat and do a pushup >calisthenics
Correct >put 50lbs into a weight vest and do a pushup >pushup magically becomes the exact same thing as a bench press
I would never claim that the movements are the same but they both rely on external load and are therefore not calisthenics.
6 months ago
Anonymous
>I would never claim that the movements are the same
Right. Because one is fundamentally a calisthenics movement that involves manipulating one's own body, with the utilization of a weight vest which distributes weight across the body and musculature in a completely different way (so as to simulate additional bodyweight), and a significant portion of the resistance still comes from one's own bodyweight. Hence, it is adequately described as a weighted calisthenics exercise. Meanwhile, a bench press involves manipulating an external barbell, and does not involve utilizing one's own bodyweight as resistance in any way. It is weight lifting. Both, I think it's fair to say, are forms of weight training.
Pretty much the only example from this post
They are 100% mutually exclusive. If they aren't you get :
[...]
[...]
[...]
[...]
[...]
where your point of view actually has some credence is with regards to squats, and even then, the loading of a weight vest and the dynamics of the movement are going to be far more similar to a plain bodyweight squat than that of a barbell on your back. All of this discussion is moot, anyway, because "weighted calisthenics" is an accepted and regularly used term that people immediately understand the meaning of, and autistic pedantry isn't going to change that.
6 months ago
Anonymous
don't even bother replying to that dude he is farming yous
6 months ago
Anonymous
Yeah, I know I'm being baited. In retrospect, I'm upset that I wasted my time on such a moronic discussion. I'm going to go do some pushups.
>have just made my first good form elbow lever and crow pose
It feels like I did a lot of progress becuse it took me some weeks but these are like the easiest exercises right?
Same limit as any other training however the problem is it barely puts on muscle. Very inefficient for hypertrophy.
>what is weighted calisthenics
I've seen Black folk doing dips/PUs with heavy weights and they still don't look as big ad those in the gym. Why?
Because they don't eat like fat asses
>t. moron
No, you're a moron. The moment you add external load you're doing weight training.
>t. moron
ah so you have no rebuttal. 'scuse me while I do some weighted ass-pushforwards
Excuse me as I perform my two legged weighted pistol squat, good day sir
Take a gander at this particularly skilled calisthenics athlete!
Ironically, Paul Anderson was a big advocate for calisthenics. He had routines that involved jumps, handstand pushups and single leg squats.
Caught ya 'mirin
Broke and dont eat enough. They are scared of big israelite wiener
Not calisthenics.
Dumbass. It is the same movement and putting weight would be just like having more fat in your body
Wrong. Using a dip belt or weight vest distributes the weight differently from how my body distributes fat, furthermore, including a load besides my own is by definition NOT calisthenics.
moron. That's weight training not calisthenics. That's an oxymoron. Moron
B-but muh closed chain movements
You're only limited by your bodyweight and how you leverage it. Basically there's limitless potential for your upper body, but your legs and especially glutes will cap out quicker.
Resistance is resistance. Calisthenics gets a bad reputation in hypertrophy circles because they look at calisthenics athletes who remain small on purpose and only train to acquire skills. If you slow down and actually accumulate volume/repetitions you will see muscle growth. Remember that the hypertrophy rep range is between 5-30.
This anon is correct. In reality bodybuilding, or optimal hypertrophy training should make use of any and all resistance training styles to achieve maximal hypertrophy. Calisthenics and weighted calisthenics are an extremely efficient way to train several large muscle groups and have very high potential for growth.
Vertical pulls for example are god tier for building lats/mid to upper back musculature.
The pressing movements are also good, but once you throw something like rings into the mix you can take the gains to the next level. Weighted ring push-ups are as good as any bench press for chest development, ring dips are great, there are a plethora of excellent movement patterns for hypertrophy with all types of calisthenics.
I won't deny that a lot if not all the advanced movement patterns are skill based and don't involve much if any hypertrophy training, but all the basic movements do and should be utilised.
If you are bodybuilding I really don't see the advantage of limiting yourself in your training style. If you're a fat, bloated powersharter who can't even do 1 bodyweight pull-up then it makes sense to hate on calisthenics.
>Weighted ring push-ups are as good as any bench press for chest development
wrong if that were true you'd see cbum and people like that doing it
Here's a fat powershitter (actually olyshitter) who regularly used calisthenics to build his strength.
he looks like shit which is funny cause you said
> If you're a fat, bloated powersharter who can't even do 1 bodyweight pull-up then it makes sense to hate on calisthenics
so if a fat powershitter does your homosexual shit he suddenly isn't a homosexual?
You greentexted a different anon.
Your body weight is the limit.
Go back to posting attractive women
Aight then
Show me BODYWEIGHT ONLY calisthenics limit only
look up that dyel asian guy who only does calisthenics thats the limit you have to roid while doing it to make any noticeable gains
Stop looking at homies who train to perform feats of movement. Of course the guy who wants to sell you on his ability to do 1 arm planches is going tockeep himself as tiny as he can.
wtf is wrong with her bottom lip
Weighted pull ups and dips will add mass.
>yeah bro I love calisthenics!
>weighted lying arm presses are my favorite!
Your argument is moronic. With everything in Calisthenics the exercises are you lifting your body. In each of these exercises you're not moving your body, you're moving solely external weight.
Weighted Calisthenics still moves your body, you simply have extra weight attached to your body. The squat is the closest mix between Calisthenics, weighted calisthenics, and weight training. As a squat with a squat bar is still you moving your bodymass as an exercise. Everything else you've posted is not.
>you're not moving your body,
Are your arms not your body? The problem with lying arm presses is that eventually it becomes way too easy to do the movement unless you load it up.
You're talking about open chain vs closed chain movements. Whether something is calisthenics or not depends entirely on whether not you're using an external load.
You are splitting hair on definitions but it kind of proves the discussion isn't so much about the type of exercise per se but volume/intensity ratio and hypertrophy. The difference is that cali stuff ends up being high volume + skillwork, while weighted stuff is low volume high intensity. At a certain point you need to add extra weight to cali stuff to grow because the volume needed to tire out your muscles becoems too much - but in theory it would still be possible, it would just be like working out with the same 10kg set of dumbells, taking a moronic amount of time. You can add that load with harder exercises to a surprising degree, but it's pretty much impossible for legs past a certain point - and also counterproductive to working against gravity. You will look good in the end following both approaches, however calisthenics puts a visible accent on the upper body and gets you lean, as well as allowing you to do cool shit, while resistance training can give you an overall larger body. So the "limit" depends on your end goal, if you don't practice any other sport and just want to become as big as possible then yes, calisthenics has a practical limit.
ffs lost hard
never change IST
>Heh don't mind me, just doing some weighted upside down handstand presses
wtf I am huge fan of calisthenics I must learn this BODYWEIGHT (CALISTHENICS) exercise. I guess sometimes you need a bit of extra equipment haha
Obviously yes
Your body can adapt to super high volume of lightweight with very little added mass
There is a limit you could get from
Weight lifting too. Natty limit is sad stuff lol
If you push to hard, even numbers got limits. Mathematics, Mos Def.
Also calisthenics is gay lmao
Calisthenics creates slow twitch endurance muscle fibers, lifting creates fast twitch explosive short term muscle fibers. Fast twitch fibers are much bigger than slow twitch, but not necessarily stronger or more capable. Depends what you want to do, what your goals are.
Banded pushups and band-assisted pullups are S-tier exercises.
Just don't fall for the progressions meme past the basics. If adding weight is impractical, just add reps. You're way better off.
>just don't do any form of calisthenics bro. Just add toys and shit to your movements lol
>Muh pseudo one arm jackknife handstand toe raise
Stay small then, homie.
Staying small because you don't understand principles of hypertrophy is a a (you) problem. Resistance is resistance.
>Resistance is resist-ACK
This happens when you spam any movement without variation. Curlbros get this too.
What's the cure? I'm afraid I'm slowly getting it....
The cure is high rep wrist curls with slow negatives and stop doing pullups
>progression memes
Literal who saying X thing is bad and what is not calisthenics
Bet you are a mad about the moment you step outside of the gym you have useless muscles not capables of doing anything except the same old lifts Lol
>The need to perform a shrimp squat arises more often in real life than the need to pick up an object
The weakest bait I've ever seen.
Not him but this isn't an either/or scenario. Both calisthenics and weight training make a very big impact on how you perform in daily life. I work in a conveyor belt system. My weight training has helped me pick up heavy objects whereas my calisthenics training helps me traverse it better.
Gaining muscle is about eating enough food.
I can do max 7 pull-ups neutral grip with 10kg backpack. And I can do max 6 bodyweight ring dips but no more for some reason.
Should I start doing weighted ring dips now or try to get to 10 be ring dips in a row first?
What about pull-ups - trying to get more reps or increasing weight to 15 kg?
I would do a dozen or more sets of 2 reps of high intensity weighted dips
Today i did barbell preacher curls 5 series: 12,14,11,11,12 and 5 series of ring dips - 6,7,6,6,8. Except i failed at rep 8 - i could not lift myself from down position. I fell and i breathed deeply like if i just ran few miles after 20 seconds i was able to do my 8th rep. So i failed this 8th rep because my cardio condition is bad, and i should do more cardio like running? Or is it because muscle hypertrophy?
>Check out videos from Mischa Schultz or Sthenics on dip form. Technique variations for hitting some muscles more are bs for me, just change grip width whether you're tricep or chest dominant.
So i watched his video today and tried to keep chest/shoulders not recessed etc. This guy also mentioned in video if you are too weak for that, it will be easier if you work on your pecs specifically and he mentioned pushups. In this video
Do you think i should incorporate pushups too? After dips+preacher curls workout or other day after pullups day? 5 series or 1 series till failure?
Today after doing dips i did 17 pushups (close to failure) but after that i had to go eating
>should do more cardio like running? Or is it because muscle hypertrophy?
Did your reps slow down towards the end of the set and burn like a b***h? If yes, it was resistance induced. If you were just out of breath and tired you need more cardio.
for weighted 5-10 reps range is fine. .
You mean front lever? I'm almost there with that one but planche is like too fricking hard right now and for some reason back lever was super easy, barely an inconvenience.
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>powershitters think that if you use a weight plate and do a pullup you are not doing calisthenics
Not a powershitter and that's correct, if you use weights you are weight training.
Cope harder homosexual. My 1pl8 pull ups and 2 pl8 dips are still Calisthenics AND weight training
Good numbers, but it's not calisthenics. You're lifting weights presumably chained to your hips.
Honestly I see both sides of the argument. While yes you are using weights, you could pretend you had put on a shit ton of bodyweight and that's what's dragging you down, this is especially true if you have it strapped to your back (like I do). If you're doing pushups etc. that way, it looks a lot more like calisthenics and uses the theory of calisthenics than regular-ass weight training.
Maybe there should be a new word for it but it would be quite sillly imo to give up doing great calisthenics exercises because they have gotten too easy and you refuse to add any weight.
So? what's wrong with weight training you dumb homosexual?
Calisthenics needs much less weight barbell lifts and since you're trying to put on muscle needing less weight to put on more muscle is always good
Absolutely nothing is wrong with weight training. I utilize both training styles, but adding weights to ANY movement is not calisthenics.
Not baiting. My position is that calisthenics is purely bodyweight.
You are describing the difference between open and closed chain movements. What makes something calisthenics is the absence of an external load. Colloquial terminology isn't necessarily correct.
>Absolutely nothing is wrong with weight training. I utilize both training styles, but adding weights to ANY movement is not calisthenics.
Kind of autistic....
yeah most calisthenics dudes are skinny or super lean because they want to or just don't eat enough
i used to do a lot of push ups but only the regular ones, and when i went to the gym with my friends i could lift 80kg on bench press with ease and they were all surprised. i think a lot of repetition does increase strength unlike what people normally say
homie looks like Quasimodo
Post body so we can all laugh at your moronic ass.
This is a perfect example of the problem with calisthenics. Yes you can build a lot of muscle, but it will be much harder to keep your physique balanced.
he looks good anon
post body
He did 2 exercises. If he head handstand push-ups and rows and bridges, his gains would have been more impressive as well.
It just shows that consistent effort on a caloric surplus for high volume and frequency will provide great results.
5'9" redditor with 15 inch biceps is who caligays look up to kek
I'm probably worse at calisthecnics than this guy and my back looks more defined.
*mogs u*
Fricking KING
he built his body with weightlifting
He built it with weightlifting and calisthenics, and according to him, he hasn't lifted in a long time, and only does calisthenics (including weighted calisthenics) nowadays.
>it would be quite sillly imo to give up doing great calisthenics exercises because they have gotten too easy and you refuse to add any weight.
I agree with you. Squats for example get even better when you add weight, but I won't consider them calisthenics the second I load them up.
>weighted calisthenics
Not a thing
>Not a thing
???
This is weight training.
Okay? The terms are not mutually exclusive. You're still performing calisthenics movements, just with a vest to simulate additional weight. Hence, weighted calisthenics. This is distinct from traditional weight lifting. Both are forms of weight training. I guess if you want to be extremely pedantic about it, sure, it isn't "pure" calisthenics or whatever, but the average person isn't as autistic as you and isn't going to fuss about the term "weighted calisthenics".
They are 100% mutually exclusive. If they aren't you get :
>gain 50lbs of fat and do a pushup
>calisthenics
>put 50lbs into a weight vest and do a pushup
>pushup magically becomes the exact same thing as a bench press
>gain 50lbs of fat and do a pushup
>calisthenics
Correct
>put 50lbs into a weight vest and do a pushup
>pushup magically becomes the exact same thing as a bench press
I would never claim that the movements are the same but they both rely on external load and are therefore not calisthenics.
>I would never claim that the movements are the same
Right. Because one is fundamentally a calisthenics movement that involves manipulating one's own body, with the utilization of a weight vest which distributes weight across the body and musculature in a completely different way (so as to simulate additional bodyweight), and a significant portion of the resistance still comes from one's own bodyweight. Hence, it is adequately described as a weighted calisthenics exercise. Meanwhile, a bench press involves manipulating an external barbell, and does not involve utilizing one's own bodyweight as resistance in any way. It is weight lifting. Both, I think it's fair to say, are forms of weight training.
Pretty much the only example from this post
where your point of view actually has some credence is with regards to squats, and even then, the loading of a weight vest and the dynamics of the movement are going to be far more similar to a plain bodyweight squat than that of a barbell on your back. All of this discussion is moot, anyway, because "weighted calisthenics" is an accepted and regularly used term that people immediately understand the meaning of, and autistic pedantry isn't going to change that.
don't even bother replying to that dude he is farming yous
Yeah, I know I'm being baited. In retrospect, I'm upset that I wasted my time on such a moronic discussion. I'm going to go do some pushups.
You have to change the leverages to make it more difficult.
>have just made my first good form elbow lever and crow pose
It feels like I did a lot of progress becuse it took me some weeks but these are like the easiest exercises right?
For reference: the planche and full lever are considered novice calisthenics feats.
>people are legit discussing this autism instead of discussing calisthecnics and providing feedback to other anons
Shame
if you bench 3x your bodyweight and can weighted pullup 1.5x your bodyweight thats the limit pretty much.
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Jesus Christ lads