This, he was pretty transparent about it. He doesn't talk about it much now because some Black folk working at twitch have an axe to grind with him to this day
>some Black folk working at twitch have an axe to grind with him to this day
My God, I can't believe the Natty League would infiltrate Twitch to persecute poor roider kanoot, when will they stop.
This, he was pretty transparent about it. He doesn't talk about it much now because some Black folk working at twitch have an axe to grind with him to this day
i hate how he advocates for shitty high volume low intensity training to these DYEL twitch streamers
is he unaware that that shitty style of training only works for roiders? does he unironically expect these guys to make any progress from doing multiple sets of 3x20 @RPE 2?
fricking hell man
There is no reason why that would only work for roiders. Listen to some renaissance periodization, Mike Israetel has talked about this a lot. There is absolutely no scientific reason whatsoever why some methods would be for naturals and some for roiders.
Optimal natural training routine should be the exact same as optimal roidtroony training routine. The only reason why that "it works for roiders" arguement exists is because you get faster and more noticeable results as a steroid user. So even the dogshit training method will result in gains for a roider but for natural not so much. But there is no reason why a roider should train like that because there are better routines. And that better routine should be used by naturals also.
>there is no reason why a roider should train like that because there are better routines
wrong
heavy lifting is optimal for gaining strength and size, but roiders can't frequently lift heavy (the same way a natty could) becauze their muscles develop faster than their bones & tendons and they snao their shit up when they go above RPE 8 for 3 sessions in a row
roiders don't know what the frick they're doing and all of their gains come from chemical assistance
none of the roiders i know had aesthetic physiques or impressive strength when they were natural, they hopped on gear because they don't know how to train yet still wanted to be jacked
what is it that makes this an obvious "roid physique" ?
I know guys similar sized to him thats natty and they also look natty.
there is something about this physique thats just so obviously roided but i cant tell exactly what it is.
>I know guys similar sized to him thats natty and they also look natty.
No you don't. I'm not saying you are lying by the way, I am saying you are delusional.
His age to his full muscle / muscle mass. Everything is just pumped looking and full at all times. Even if you know guys this "big" theyre not this lean and p;umped on a day to day basis
His age to his full muscle / muscle mass. Everything is just pumped looking and full at all times. Even if you know guys this "big" theyre not this lean and p;umped on a day to day basis
Just started 2 months ago DYEL lifter here.
Can someone PLEASE post some pictures of real, actual, natty achievable physiques here? Every cbt post, every picture of everyone ever is apparently on roids. If I google natty physiques I inevitably land on re**it threads where half the homosexuals claim the pic is not natty either.
Have I been lied to? Can you even have any visible muscles if you don't roid?
You’re just a tard. The biggest tell for roids is overall body size. A natural bodybuilder can get as lean as a roider and will still have a lot of muscle but you will notice they still have relatively normal proportions, their head looks normal sized, etc. Picrel is Mike Thurston, pretty good example of what top tier genetics and training can get you if you keep at it as a natty. Note how his delts and traps still look natural and of an appropriate size and while he is very lean he is not vascular across his entire body
They were good I've got no complaints. I'm not a real fan but I got a free ticket. My friend wanted merch and we had to wait in line for over an hour. Missed the entire thundercat show which was a fricking bummer. I recommend showing up early for that-- he had some giant cat head props or something that looked pretty wild.
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Nice, I saw them in San Diego two weeks ago. They killed it. I suggest wearing cheap drugstore earplugs if you don't want permanent tinnitus.
They were good I've got no complaints. I'm not a real fan but I got a free ticket. My friend wanted merch and we had to wait in line for over an hour. Missed the entire thundercat show which was a fricking bummer. I recommend showing up early for that-- he had some giant cat head props or something that looked pretty wild.
Nice, I saw them in San Diego two weeks ago. They killed it. I suggest wearing cheap drugstore earplugs if you don't want permanent tinnitus.
nah knut admitted that he's not natty
This, he was pretty transparent about it. He doesn't talk about it much now because some Black folk working at twitch have an axe to grind with him to this day
>some Black folk working at twitch have an axe to grind with him to this day
My God, I can't believe the Natty League would infiltrate Twitch to persecute poor roider kanoot, when will they stop.
>literal fricking morons replying to a shitpost
Scooby twin
i hate how he advocates for shitty high volume low intensity training to these DYEL twitch streamers
is he unaware that that shitty style of training only works for roiders? does he unironically expect these guys to make any progress from doing multiple sets of 3x20 @RPE 2?
fricking hell man
There is no reason why that would only work for roiders. Listen to some renaissance periodization, Mike Israetel has talked about this a lot. There is absolutely no scientific reason whatsoever why some methods would be for naturals and some for roiders.
Optimal natural training routine should be the exact same as optimal roidtroony training routine. The only reason why that "it works for roiders" arguement exists is because you get faster and more noticeable results as a steroid user. So even the dogshit training method will result in gains for a roider but for natural not so much. But there is no reason why a roider should train like that because there are better routines. And that better routine should be used by naturals also.
>there is no reason why a roider should train like that because there are better routines
wrong
heavy lifting is optimal for gaining strength and size, but roiders can't frequently lift heavy (the same way a natty could) becauze their muscles develop faster than their bones & tendons and they snao their shit up when they go above RPE 8 for 3 sessions in a row
roiders don't know what the frick they're doing and all of their gains come from chemical assistance
none of the roiders i know had aesthetic physiques or impressive strength when they were natural, they hopped on gear because they don't know how to train yet still wanted to be jacked
what is it that makes this an obvious "roid physique" ?
I know guys similar sized to him thats natty and they also look natty.
there is something about this physique thats just so obviously roided but i cant tell exactly what it is.
>I know guys similar sized to him thats natty and they also look natty.
No you don't. I'm not saying you are lying by the way, I am saying you are delusional.
His age to his full muscle / muscle mass. Everything is just pumped looking and full at all times. Even if you know guys this "big" theyre not this lean and p;umped on a day to day basis
skin looks very coarse imo
>I know guys similar sized to him thats natty
you dont
>and they also look natty.
they dont
Overly bulky pectorals, dry skin, bulging abdominals, traps that would put a bull to shame.
Basically, too lean for his size to be natty.
>Is a competitive bodybuilder natural????
Just started 2 months ago DYEL lifter here.
Can someone PLEASE post some pictures of real, actual, natty achievable physiques here? Every cbt post, every picture of everyone ever is apparently on roids. If I google natty physiques I inevitably land on re**it threads where half the homosexuals claim the pic is not natty either.
Have I been lied to? Can you even have any visible muscles if you don't roid?
No you literally cannot build any amount of muscles without roids
You’re just a tard. The biggest tell for roids is overall body size. A natural bodybuilder can get as lean as a roider and will still have a lot of muscle but you will notice they still have relatively normal proportions, their head looks normal sized, etc. Picrel is Mike Thurston, pretty good example of what top tier genetics and training can get you if you keep at it as a natty. Note how his delts and traps still look natural and of an appropriate size and while he is very lean he is not vascular across his entire body
You are moronic if you think he is natty lol
Frick bros if that dudes small frame isn’t even attainable natty what’s the fricking point?
That dude is not small
I've seen maybe 1 or 2 people in my entire life who were huge and built like this guy. He's not "small" lol
Bro. Not even his hair is natty.
no
this looks like Italy
lake Como maybe?
close but no cigar, it's lake homosexual in Greece
Achievable natty? Saw this guy last night and he's fricking shredded. 59 years old.
How were they? Seeing them on the 17th
They were good I've got no complaints. I'm not a real fan but I got a free ticket. My friend wanted merch and we had to wait in line for over an hour. Missed the entire thundercat show which was a fricking bummer. I recommend showing up early for that-- he had some giant cat head props or something that looked pretty wild.
Nice looking forward to it
Nice, I saw them in San Diego two weeks ago. They killed it. I suggest wearing cheap drugstore earplugs if you don't want permanent tinnitus.
I'll definitely second that