Is weed worse than alcohol for your gains?
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Is weed worse than alcohol for your gains?
Is weed worse than alcohol for your gains?
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no
and its not even close, minor test drop vs full blown halt of MPS
>what is wetbrain
>wetbrain
Takes some real effort to get this far
>wetbrain
This occurs in chronic alcoholics who replace meals with alcohol for a period of about a decade. If they drink 1 energy drink per week, such as red bulls or monsters, this will never happen to them since they're constantly replenishing their B vitamins. They'll still be super unhealthy but that particular issue is as avoidable as scurvy.
While alcohol impacts GABA receptors, cannabinoids affect so many different areas of the body. Chronic abuse can lead to depression, lethargy, low testosterone, and other issues.
As for gains, it's hard to say. Probably alcohol. Liver problems can ruin your appearance. Weed makes you eat so it's bad for a cut but fine for bulking. Probably good for bulking actually.
If I had to choose, I would say alcohol is worse in larger doses, but if you're comparing smaller doses of each, then weed as 1 drink per day will hardly impact you negatively, while maintaining positive effects, but regular small dose weed use can still lead to problems
gains - no
brains - 100% worse, much worse
It’s all shit.
Yes because a side effect of weed is lack of motivation even days after
massive weed addict here, i have trained hard every day with good results while also being stoned all day every day, blaming lack of motivation on weed is nothing but an excuse
some of us are trying to gain bro
0%
>i have trained hard every day with good results while also being stoned all day every day, blaming lack of motivation on weed is nothing but an excuse
that said, do not recommend it, in the long run it will likely frick you up in one way or another. for me it's anal thrombosis & digestive issues (these leave when i smoke less) and i also suspect my chronic migraine is partially related.
>some of us are trying to gain bro
I'm just trying to shoot for lean at 160, and weed's been good at help me stay on that goal.
I don't drink or eat junk food.
Anon you're a risky man for lifting while high. I'm always concerned I'll accidentally load up too much weight and hurt myself. I save the toking for after lifting to help the muscles relax
slightly strained my lower back once with deadlifts but i fully recovered within a week and don't think the weed was much to blame. not like i got blazed out of my mind specifically before lifting, with the kind of tolerance you get when smoking all the time you can function on a very high level.
Oh there it is
The fricking superman stoner that did impossible shit while on drugs
Totally not a wienersucking liar trying to save clout
>working out every day is "impossible shit" that you need to be a "superman" for
imagine coping this hard lmao
alcohol has destroyed his brain anon there is no use interacting
fricking pathetic drug addicted loser
rude. i'm clean and advocate for it btw, read my other post.
agreed.
I've been training stoned for a year now, my best workouts have been when I'm high as a fricking kite.
If you lack motivation it's because you are a pussy, not because you smoke a funny plant
Dunno. I've never "weeded" and I never will. Same for any illicit or unhealthy substance.
homie trying to claim he never had sugar
I smoke weed every time before I hit the gym. When I started smoking, I weighed 240, and now I'm 165 a year later. Might be better for losing weight, but I have no clue why you'd drink if you're trying to get in shape. Beer is just empty calories.
I know drinkers of all types. At both ends, from barely drinks at all, to flat out alcoholic, I know some people who are losers, and some who are smart, motivated, and successful (although being an alcoholic is obviously a negative)
I also know pot smokers, all pot smokers on the higher end of use (basically daily use and beyond in my experience) are unmotivated and obviously achieving below their potential in life
I smoke a ton of weed and so do most of my coworkers. We make 12k/month on the low end.
But yeah, tell me how unmotivated I am.
No. I'll call you a homosexual instead.
>achieving below their potential in life
If the best thing you've got to talk about is money..
My base salary is way higher than your comissioned/hourly/whatever rate you get paid, whether I do an outstanding or bare minimum job each day, and I smoke nothing, and that doesn't include profit sharing or bonuses. Checkmate, unmotivated loser.
$12k is a tradesmen wage.
It's a good job and will help support a family - ask your boss how much he makes off your crew (he was probably just a tradesmen who saw the potential of hiring potheads to make him rich)
I've been doing what I do for 3 years now. I know the pay rates at each level. But sure, I'm the same as some loser flipping burgers at McD's cuz I smkke weed. Just 0 motivation to do anything or go anywhere
>$144k per annum
>tradesman's wage
Pick one.
I countries like Canada/Australia, yes.
Why do you feel so attacked? You’re very insecure about your drug habits. You don’t have to defend weed
I'm just curious how arbitrarily high you set the bar for someone to be successful enough for you to not judge their habits.
I mean, you got motherfrickers making like 20k a year and getting shit faced every night, but that's cool I guess.
Sure thing, I'm a doctor and I smoke weed before performing heart surgery.
What do you do and where roughly do you live? I want to make 12k a month
>80k after taxes a year
Sounds like a wagecuck stoner to me.
Guys I smoke exactly one (1) big inhalation at bedtime. I can't sleep otherwise. How fricked am I?
Andrew Huberman talked about pot at length
Basically yes
If you are going to use pot the only acceptable way is using edibles once per week
Alcohol is much more directly impactful as it stunts processes involved with muscle growth. I don't think weed does anything like that but I could be wrong.
How long after lifting can I drink?
I am working 7 days this week and need a drink and some nuggies
You probably want the alcohol out of your system when you're sleeping as I assume that's when you're recovering the most. If you're just having a few beers or whatever who gives a frick. If you get wasted then yeah you're getting no gains while your body processes that shit.
How many nights do I need to sleep? I already slept well last night after sleeping
hehe I see how it is, suck on this then b***h.
I'll stick with wine tonight and make some chili but I'll need some vodka and nuggies soon
Nah that was a typo
I like to get fricked up but if it's going to impede my lifts then I'll have to stop
After lifting
Doesn't fricking matter unless you're drinking heavily or all the time. If you only drink occasionally, you can do it whenever and it will not hurt you.
I drink a beer after lifting fairly often, hasn't affected my progress in any way, you'll probably be fine unless you're drinking alot
t. 95kg bencher
Iirc it was something like <4 hours after your workout. Taking protein at the same time minimized the effect alcohol had on MPS.
If possible, work out in the morning / midday and drink at night, but either way it's not going to make a big impact unless you're getting hammered daily. I was progressing just fine knocking back 3-4 pints a day.
I only have edibles and have been every night for the past 5 years. From my personal experience it gives me much deeper sleep and rest, but no lack of motivation. I only have it past 8pm or 9pm, though.
Alcohol no matter what I always feel worse, even just having a few pints at the pub then going to work the next day I feel badly rested so I end up skipping the gym on days like those.
>From my personal experience it gives me much deeper sleep and rest
weed, like alcohol and any other drug really fricks sleep up big time by making REM more difficult to experience. i dont blame you since sleep is one of those things that requires a tonne of dedication to consciously improve at but its genuinely been the best decision i have possibly ever made. you should look into sleep hygiene
tldr is:
>set times to wake up and sleep- you will never deviate from this ever again unless absolutely necessary
>dark room
>quiet room
>some form of nightly routine (i usually brush my teeth, meditate for 15 mins then set my alarm, once thats done i refuse to touch my phone no matter what until my wakeup time)
>dont go on your phone no matter what, your one job at this time selected by you is to try and sleep, nothing else is allowed (no reading either)
>never nap during the day
its really that simple but its torture following it faithfully, if you cant sleep, it literally doesn't matter you sit there eyes closed till morning. You have to train yourself, follow the above and you will in a months time live a better life then you did for however long you've lived
t. ex weed chainsmoker
I ended up having a bit of an edible each night years ago for precisely that reason-incapable of falling asleep.
I used to try follow a fairly strict routine like you mentioned though I'd read for 30 mins in bed before sleep. Gave up eventually and resorted to edibles. However putting it in the perspective of "having to train yourself" is an interesting take as I'd usually lie there eyes shut but no sleep for a week at a time. I'll give it a shot.
I do also take magnesium tablets now an hour before sleep and it gives me the craziest dreams right before I wake up even if stoned the night before.
for me personally regularly doing a bit of cardio or doing a lot of walking goes a loooong way for making falling asleep easier
both are pretty bad for you behaviorally if you use them regularly
Alcohol poisons you. I know weed isn't good for your respiratory health, but Alcohol destroys your kidneys and liver.
/fat/ frequently has anons posting about how drinking or smoking sends them on massive eating binges. I don’t know which is worse, alcohol seems more severe but weed gets people into the trap of ‘it’s harmless I can do it constantly’. I wouldn’t bother with either.
Chronic weed use permanently lowers your IQ
Flip Side:
I literally cannot function normally without weed.
I smoke before work. I smoke before workouts. I smoke before pretty everything. It raises my quality of life dramatically.
My own mother will tell me to go roll a joint if I’m in a bad mood.
That sounds like an addiction and potentially a problem, anon. Why can't you do anything without being high?
Nta, but everything's more fun when you're high. Only difference between me and that dude is I stopped smoking before work.
Debatable; if I'm doing something that requires a lot of detailed focus and remembering small factors then I don't want weed anywhere near me. But if I am just playing guitar, cooking something or doing mundane house/yardwork, then yeah I definitely would smoke a bit
I wish I was more addicted.
Feels like I have to force myself to take medicine half the time.
You can burn fat and get high moron
Smoking before working out is a waste
Alcohol is just excess calories, especially if you drink a six-pack every weekend.
all potheads should be executed
Frick you Singapore!
Fugg I'm desperate to go get many bags of nuggies and an a handle...think I will, it's gonna be a rough weekberg
part of a solid pre-workout stack IMO.
was working out last night and accidentally went for 2 hours.
I did 250mg of gummies this morning and did 4 hours of legs and core work
alcohol gyno trannies can only cope
this kills the crab
>crab
closer to a crab than to cancer like you
No but it's bad too because it fricks up your sleep in a way that you easily fall asleep but won't get quality sleep
only for about a month then you get wicked REM sleep, more than you would normally
Weed won't affect your gains unless you become unmotivated and eat a bunch of junk food. I don't smoke weed before going to the gym because it gives me social anxiety but I have noticed it gives me crazy good mind muscle connection, so could actually help in some cases. Alcohol is shit though and actively harms your gains because of the terrible sleep you get the night you drink.
Coming from an alcoholic, no. Alcohol is slow suicide, weed won't kill you like that. It will make you into a slow, forgetful dumbass, for sure, but it won't murder you.
Coming on a year sober bros. Wagmi
Weed is fine until you let it get in the way of your goals. Lethargy is a prevalent side effect for some strains, so avoid those. Smoking a J after youve done your workout, cooking, work, and other necessary activities is fine. Just don’t cave into the munchies.
Alcohol on the other hand throws off your water saturation, is very caloric, is processed and turned into carbohydrates in some cases, and hangovers make working out super difficult since you have the same amount of lethargy as with weed. Plus getting drunk disrupts your sleep. Not to mention that it’s toxic to literally all your organs.
My advice is to do both or either in moderation.
Alcohol is absolute shit for your gains. Weed just gives me the best sleep of my life and I only have brain affects while using.
Of course if you get the munch and eat everything kiss your gains goodbye.
if you can discipline yourself to workout while high, it can help with the mind-muscle connection which is one of the main things that you need to build size and also with the pain tolerance (easier to push yourself to failure) and if you are the hardgainer type, it can help you eat more to bulk up so it's not totally useless.
However, it has very insidious downsides, especially over prolonged periods of use. It affects your mind and when you are high, it appears to "give", I mean, you feel these profound sensations and sometimes get thoughts that you may judge to be deep and sublime, it elevates your mood in general and drives away your boredom. But in actuality it is a trap because it "takes" as much as it gives, sometimes more but you don't perceive it as clearly. It absolutely affects and weakens your Will, not just the willpower but your agency in general. It strengthens your vices. It fricks with your mind and memory, it changes your personality, etc.
This is the reason why it's truly not worth it to use it recreationally (even if you use it every once in a while, it really is a slippery slope and it's easy to start doing it more and more often until you find that you are smoking every day and not being high feels weird now). If used as medicine it's different
No technology is worse for your gains
Why do 99% of stoners look like this?
Posted by man addicted to technology and can't go one day without a screen
He's still better than you peter puffer
Incorrect, humans were fine for thousands of years and weed existed just as long. Then came along technology and now everyone is more fat, weak and depressed than ever
weed now is nothing like weed a thousand years ago
hashish is not new
I just know you look like this kek
I look like that and I haven't smoked weed since 2018.
no, but alcohol is barely safer than crystal meth and heroin, being better than alcohol doesn't exactly prove anything.
Yes
>t. no druggie
Alcohol is worse.
But weed isn’t good either. I’ll andmit that I’m addicted to it. I like to smoke after if finished everything for the day, it hasn’t ruined my life, I work in a professional setting. But I forfeit my weekends to smoke which is cringe. It makes me binge eat and eat junk food while high, when I wouldn’t otherwise while sober. Also it smells like shit and makes your clothes smell like shit.
>addicted to weed
>dude alcohol is worse than weed
Seek help. Its not too late
Weed is bad, Alcohol is unequivocally worse! A beer or a glass of wine won’t kill you, but I’m talking about chronic addiction. I’ve lost family to alcohol. I’ve seen first hand how debilitating alcohol is compared to weed.
i've heard weed lowers iq but only if you use it in adolescence. if you start as an adult, you are in the clear. is this true?
Like others have posted, it's the "sober" bros who are online for 16 hours a day that have it worse, mentally.
I quit alcohol, only consume edibles, and I've been spending less and less time online.
No
It actually makes working out more enjoyable. When I drink, I don't want to do anything. The right strain of weed has a calming effect which helps you think more clearly.
I'm 6'4 270lbs lean making $30k a year working from home and I smoke weed all day, anyone who says weed is bad for you is a moronic boomer