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It doesn't exist.
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  1. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If joints and tendons being fricked count as overtraining, then yes you can overtrain every easily

    Even with perfect form and technique Ive had sore tendons/joints from doing a little too many sets like doing 15-20 sets instead of 9-12 sets, 15-20 sets isn't much, but its enough to possibly make a joint feel inflamed and thus put me out of the gym for a few days

  2. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    junk volume also doesnt exist lol

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I'd say it does

      For example I do this on Leg Press

      1 plate
      2 plate
      3 plate
      4 plate
      5 plate
      6 plate
      5 plate
      4 plate
      3 plate
      2 plate
      1 plate

      tbh me doing the 1-3 plates on each side is probably a complete waste of time, probably only getting gains from the 4-5-6 plates on each side sets

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Reverse pyramids are kind of moronic, also I'd drop the 3 and 5 plate warm-up sets.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Junk volume means volume without intensity.

      Which is 100% real

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        What about a drop set if you fail your current weight? Is it pointless?

  3. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's an issue that should concern about 1% of those working out (basically athletes), it's a non issue for the average Joe that just goes to the gym and sits on his ass all day at some bullshit office job and/or watching tv. Basically it's like some fat whale being afraid of being too skinny

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/pSOhnpN.jpg

      > it exists in the sense of diminishing returns
      recovery either not being rewarding or just completely wasted on healing and minimal amounts being rebuilt

      but even continous stimulus can be increasing the reward by releasing more nutrients into the muscle over longer periods of time
      by keeping it full of blood whilst training only to the extent of becoming warm and feeling the pump before letting go for your body
      to make the rest of the job on its own.

      You will never understand the hyperborean state of mind if you try to find a quick fix, you need to stay in tune with the will of the gods.
      The gods are always watching you and continously observing if youre in condition to fend of muslim invaders or keeping christians at bay
      or you might one day lose everything to Christians rabbi masters that suck the blood of your children.

      > The hyperborean might comes to those who stay connected with the three roots of hyperborea.
      One stretching far and wide across all of Niflheim, where your blood was created by the gods.
      One which ascends hyperborean wisdom through the well of Mimir who is the master of the well.
      And the third which connects to the well of fate where the gods hold court.

      Hyperborean blood is boiling, Hyperborean wisdom is brewing and the gods are watching.

      https://i.imgur.com/HkuUakG.jpg

      You are overthinking things and missing out on the the wisdom of the gods

      Tyr and Tor went to fetch the cauldron where your blood was created, hyperborean blood should stay boiling.
      Thrudgelmir is the always calling for strength that you need to channel through Tor

      • 4 weeks ago
        SwedishBrorsan

        https://drive.google.com/file/d/1cLUj7JZt6UBcHBqEL4fwWyFaA9pDLmt-/view
        Asians did not come from Hyperborea

        • 4 weeks ago
          SwedishBrorsan

          > Aurgelmir, also known as Ymir
          the first and father of all giants who rose out of Ginnungagap when the water collided with the heat of Surtr

          • 4 weeks ago
            SwedishBrorsan

            The six-headed son Thrudgelmir was created from the legs of Ymir and drowned in the blood of his father Ymir.

            > Hymir, son of Buri whos father was created by Audumla who fed the six-headed son of Aurgelmir/Ymir known as Thrudgelmir
            the incantation of strength that drowned in the blood of his father, Aurgelmir.

            • 4 weeks ago
              SwedishBrorsan

              > Tor and Tyr brought the cauldron from their grandfather Hymir & sons of Woden
              Tor is the Incantation of absolute strength from the blood of the six-headed Thrudgelmir

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This. Very few people are really in danger of overtraining. Many people are in danger of under-recovering though which is similar. But don’t complain about overtraining if you only sleep 4 hours a night for example.

  4. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's already been proven. Presumably you're too weak to have experienced it yet.

  5. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Alright. Post body

  6. 4 weeks ago
    SwedishBrorsan

    > it exists in the sense of diminishing returns
    recovery either not being rewarding or just completely wasted on healing and minimal amounts being rebuilt

    but even continous stimulus can be increasing the reward by releasing more nutrients into the muscle over longer periods of time
    by keeping it full of blood whilst training only to the extent of becoming warm and feeling the pump before letting go for your body
    to make the rest of the job on its own.

    You will never understand the hyperborean state of mind if you try to find a quick fix, you need to stay in tune with the will of the gods.
    The gods are always watching you and continously observing if youre in condition to fend of muslim invaders or keeping christians at bay
    or you might one day lose everything to Christians rabbi masters that suck the blood of your children.

    > The hyperborean might comes to those who stay connected with the three roots of hyperborea.
    One stretching far and wide across all of Niflheim, where your blood was created by the gods.
    One which ascends hyperborean wisdom through the well of Mimir who is the master of the well.
    And the third which connects to the well of fate where the gods hold court.

    Hyperborean blood is boiling, Hyperborean wisdom is brewing and the gods are watching.

  7. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's not like you go from training to overtraining like hitting a lightswitch. You progress up to overtraining and when you really progress through it you get the worst symptoms associated with it which most people never experience. A lot more people though do actually slide into that overtrained region because they're doing way too much shit way too often without giving themselves proper rest or eating appropriately for the shit they do. That's just a fact. Recovery weeks are game changers for anyone that actually trains appropriately.

    • 4 weeks ago
      SwedishBrorsan

      You are overthinking things and missing out on the the wisdom of the gods

      Tyr and Tor went to fetch the cauldron where your blood was created, hyperborean blood should stay boiling.
      Thrudgelmir is the always calling for strength that you need to channel through Tor

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This anon speaks from experience. It's a gradual frick until one day you realize you feel like shit and your joints are toasted.

  8. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhabdomyolysis

  9. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's very much real. If I squat too much I lose sleep, every joint starts hurting, resting heart rate goes way up and libido way down. You can tell it's coming when you start to get increasingly depressed despite no outside changes.
    Some people do seem immune to it or don't get it as bad, for me my recovery has always been shit

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Take a sleeping tablet.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        No.

  10. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I’m on SL 5x5 and progressing on my squats flawlessly. Every session adding 2,5 kilos and no issues. Warming up fine and finishing tired but happy.
    Yesterday I reached 100Kg (2PL8s) and for the first time my right knee is giving me a mild pain in its lower front side.
    Maybe that’s overtraining and I should de-load.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Don't deload just squat less.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        That's what a deload is. Reducing volume by roughly a 3rd easiest done by just doing less sets.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I meant do squats once or 1.5x a week at most. 3 times is too much.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            What about alternating Squats and DLs?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Don't deload just deload
        Lol

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Bro bro you NEED to stop training completely for like a week bro you can't just instinctively reduce volume depending on how you're feeling that day bro BRO PLEASE
          Get PWND fgt

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >stop training completely for like a week
            That isn't a deload
            >you can't just instinctively reduce volume
            That is a deload. You're moronic.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Salome with the head of John the Baptist

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >SL or SS
      Squatting 3 times a week is bad for you

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >SL 5x5
      Drop it.
      Even SS 3x5 three times a week for sets across with the same load is already a lot of squatting outside of the absolute beginner phase where it's all technical practice anyway. 5x5 is just asking to get snapped up.
      You WILL -ack yourself if you continue down this road, it's classic over-use injury. I have no idea why the frick these programs prescribe so much squatting while conversely having you alternate bench and OHP, upper body needs and can take a lot of volume at higher frequencies because the loads are relatively much smaller, lower body not so much.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        these programs focus a lot of squats because it's a lift that beginners can keep scaling linearly for a while and feel like they're making a lot of progress doing so. the frequency really isn't a problem until they start hitting decent weight

  11. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What is rabdo for 2 kidneys John ?

  12. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If you do 30 rounds per week of boxing training in your first 3 months, you will get inflammation in the calves or fricked up knees.

    If you deadlift hard twice a week for one month, you will start having fatigue on your daily life.

    If you squat too many set/reps on moderate weight over the week, you will get hip flexor inflammation or your knees will take a hit.

  13. 4 weeks ago
    Seminolite 1.0

    Assuming anecdotal evidence can suffice, I HATE this old idea that just pumping and dumping all the work in the world will AUTOMATICALLY EQUAL POSITIVE RESULTS.

    I'm actually a now amateur musician who was once in conservatory when I was more serious. My studio's teacher came from Italy and had this old mindset that you must work as many hours as possible to be able to play whatever you needed to play because you will be a professional musician and that's what professionals do – they get the job done.
    While that IS exactly the job of a pro musician, I just didn't like the idea of the method of practicing and practicing and what for me was beating a dead horse. I practiced from opening to closing of the conservatory outside of class hours and got nowhere if not only marginally better results with my playing. For the "normals" (I have diagnosed mental issues slash developmental problems, not these folks), more hours practiced almost always corresponded to positive progress. But for me, besides getting mildly or barely noticeably better, from using methods that were either utilized by my faster progressing colleagues or by the latest psych and performance studies, it may have even WORSENED my performances.

    It's a long anecdote, but I found the same thing in both music and weightlifting and many other places. Sometimes, when I give it enough time for a break –but not too long! Maybe it's a psychological thing as you're excited to do this exercise again or a physiological thing where your body has enough rest and ingrained and adjusted to the task –sometimes, things get better faster that way.

    Sorry for the two bucks 'stead of the two cents. But there.

    • 4 weeks ago
      SwedishBrorsan

      What you are experiencing is the knowledge of Mimir which was gifted you through the expansion of the visigoth into italy.

      Your genes know by default that you need the balance of strength granted by blood of Thrudgelmir who drowned in the power of Ymir
      and the yearning of wisdom through your connection with Mimir, the well of fate is continously everchanging as the gods observe you.

      you can not escape the three roots that created you

      • 4 weeks ago
        Seminolite 1.0

        ...what?...are all swedes like this? My teacher was from Sardinia btw

        • 4 weeks ago
          SwedishBrorsan

          The admixture of visigoth in your blood doesnt care about your teacher

  14. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Then why do you need to deload ?

  15. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Overtraining exist, but in most cases, it’s probably just undersleeping and undereating

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Doesn't matter what you call it. The symptoms are the same whether you're doing insane volume of work or unable to recover from a moderate volume. The cure is also the same. The only differnce is if you're doing it with cardio you can run into rhabdo. Which is so entirely far beyond overtraining syndrome it's fatal if not treated.

  16. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'm convinced most people undertrain from fear of 'overtraining' - this is why everyone is so small and fat

  17. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  18. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    as far as your nervous system goes, physical stress is the exact same as emotional / psychological stress.

    When you accrue too much stress to recover from, your body starts to wear down, physically and mentally. This 'overtraining' often manifests itself as deficits in your neural drive, which is your ability to contract your muscles to their fullest extent.

    Overtraining doesn't exist in the context of how it is generally explained, the common explanation does not touch on physical and mental stress and doesn't bring up things like neural drive. If you want to test this theory out, you can just not go to sleep and try to perform a PR when you are severely sleep deprived. It's the same underlying concept.

  19. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Frick yeah it exists. I used to go to the gym 5-6 days a week and gave myself tennis elbow, lower back, pulled muscles and shoulder issues. I cut back to 3 days a week and saw the best strength gains I've ever had.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      thats not overtraining, you're just training like a moron

  20. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Most people mistake poor recovery for overtraining. Non-professional athletes don't have enough energy or the mental fortitude to even reach the point of overtraining. If you're fatigued the day after training at a high enough intensity, odds are it's just not enough food or sleep.

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