It doesn't. I have really focused on deadlifting all 2023 and despite getting to 400 pounds, all it gave me was a very defined/sculpted back. I get way more back gains from lat pulldowns and rows. Muscular size is genetics
i'm 1.97 and my dad's family has an history of back problems due to strain. always avoided this exercise given the fact it seems its all about ego lifting (even the plates are bigger than usual just to show how much of a big boy u are), and all those snap videos certainly don't make it look safe.
Should i actually try it? i don't care for ego and im not looking for big muscles, just wanna keep healthy and i dont think i do enough back exercises. Alternatively recommend better back exercises if you think deadlifts are bad
im in the same positon as you due to back injury. I cannot deadlift without pain. I can train my back by doing the GHR, focusing on not letting my lumbar spine flex at the bottom
Deadlifts are good, and you should get them to 200-220kgs, maybe round it to 500lbs, or about 2x bw if you're a big boi, BUT after that I personally think you're better off leaving them out and doing other pulls from the floor. Cleans, snatches, pull variations, and power variations, get some power in you instead of going full strength.
Just put yourself in the mentality of someone that b***hes about deadlifts
How weak is that pers9n overall, how pathethic is their thinking? Extremely weak and pathethic, and because of this, dangerous
Not counting warm up sets. The point is to just add weight every session until you plateau. Then improve your technique until you hit the real muscular plateau. At that point you have mastered the basic lifts and stop SS before you get too fat and go on a intermediate program.
I realize the odds of getting a good answer here are low, but I just realized I totally round back my deadlifts. How bad is that? I'm up to 4 plates with no injury at all yet. (Please don't offer your opinion if you have a lower deadlift than me)
where do you round?
thoracic rounding is not bad
lumbar to a degree is not bad either, if you cat back it then learn to brace better
if you post a video it will be easier to tell
t.250 kg conv
I tried deadlifting for a bit over a year without doing any of the ego shit and I snapped my back twice. I just can't get the form down apparently, are there any good alternatives?
Sure DL are fin and sure give you a wide back, but if your objective is train for hypertrophy there are better more low effort/efficient ways to train that are much more less taxing to your body.
>more low effort
sure >more efficient
no, because you just replaced adductor, abductor, glute, quad, and spinal erector isolations with just a squat. >less taxing
is doing 2-3 sets on all those exercises really less taxing than just doing 4 sets of squats?
You should never use strength standard tables to set goals or alter your training.
It's fine to use straps if grip becomes your limiting factor. Just don't use the straps on the warmup weights/sets.
I was in your shoes a few months ago - get chalk and keep going and your grip will improve.
You can also get wraps if you mostly are about back gains and you're ok with your grip staying weak
I recently started doing wrist curls but I'm still not sure if they help for isometric grip or if they just give curl gains
Recent data from the Centers for Disease Control (CDC) suggests that the average weight of men in the US is 199.8 pounds.
I DL 200lbs, so that if it came to it I could get a comatose body off the ground. Why the frick do you need to lift more than that when it's not required?
That lifting a body is easier than lifting the equivalent weight on a barbell, owing to the fact that you can utilize momentum to overcome the initial inertial resistance of the weight.
m is an object's mass and v is its velocity. momentum p (from Latin pellere "push, drive") is: p = mv. If I combat roll over a body while sprinting at 15mph , then the momentum generated by my body is p = 536.448 kg·m/s.
The inelastic collision created by my crashing into this unconscious fool obeys conservation of momentum, meaning that momentum carries forward into the event & makes it easier to shift the weight. A deadlift in comparison is started without momentum, making it more difficult to accomplish.
If you ever want to properly frick your muscles up, try pausing halfway through a rep & then starting again. The lack of momentum causes you to work harder to overcome the inertia & blows you up for juicy juicy gainz.
Are you actually arguing that its easier to life a 200lb person than a 200lb deadlift with a barbell. Is your name forest?
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Yes, because of the ability to introduce momentum. If you can work out how to introduce over 500 kg m/s of momentum to the start of a deadlift, I'd love to see it. And it's Mr Gump to you.
what if there's two unconcious people on the ground? checkmate you moronic DYEL homosexual now get to the gym and don't come home till you can pick up some real weight
>I DL 200lbs, so that if it came to it I could get a comatose body off the ground. Why the frick do you need to lift more than that when it's not required?
A person who can lift more than 200lbs can lift 200lbs easier than someone who can only lift 200lbs, moron. Also, why lift in the first place if you're only concerned about what you absolutely "need" to do?
total powershitter death
you'd be surprised how many "aesthetics" dudes still can't let go of the powershitter memes. deep down they know they're ugly and are prepping for their inevitable visit to the powershitter port in a storm of disappointment.
Zoomers don't want blocky waists and have no interest in fat-c**t boomers like Rippetoe and his deadlift/squat memes, no matter how often he LARPs as Roger Estep with fake pics.
bull physique
Extremely juicy
it is a LEG exercise for LEG day
leg day is actually squat day
It doesn't. I have really focused on deadlifting all 2023 and despite getting to 400 pounds, all it gave me was a very defined/sculpted back. I get way more back gains from lat pulldowns and rows. Muscular size is genetics
The issue is you only pulled 400lbs
Not bad considering I never DL'd before last summer.
Ouch.
I did a 440lbs deadlift after a couple of weeks of joining the gym. I am not in the slightest bit strong as I work with big fijians who are strong.
440 lbs dl is objectively strong, dumbass.
Errr it was a hex bar deadlift.
so you hex bar deadlifted 440 a couple weeks after you started lifting? man I hate hearing shit like that
That's it? Pretty much every teenager that started on new years is deading 500+ for reps by now
Deadlifts cure the lower back pain i got from deadlifting 10 years ago, it really is a one way road.
They do work your back but you need more exercises than just the deadlift
all i do is deadlift and my back is my best feature
I just dont believe you. Ive seen someone do heavy dl without something else for back and have decent build
give recommendations
Post back OP
It won't, that's why powerlifters are so weak and look like shit. It's like a cult.
https://www.strengthlog.com/deadlift/
post body
I can only deadlift 80kg for 5x5
guy in your image looks like shit
Weighted pullups give better gains and you can go heavy as you want without wrecking your spine plus your arms will get swole.
i'm 1.97 and my dad's family has an history of back problems due to strain. always avoided this exercise given the fact it seems its all about ego lifting (even the plates are bigger than usual just to show how much of a big boy u are), and all those snap videos certainly don't make it look safe.
Should i actually try it? i don't care for ego and im not looking for big muscles, just wanna keep healthy and i dont think i do enough back exercises. Alternatively recommend better back exercises if you think deadlifts are bad
You don't have a history of back problems because od strain, it's because of not understanding lifting mechanics and having weak back musculature
Picking something of the ground is a pretty basic human movement, you don't have to push huge weights if your only goal is general health.
im in the same positon as you due to back injury. I cannot deadlift without pain. I can train my back by doing the GHR, focusing on not letting my lumbar spine flex at the bottom
Deadlifts are good, and you should get them to 200-220kgs, maybe round it to 500lbs, or about 2x bw if you're a big boi, BUT after that I personally think you're better off leaving them out and doing other pulls from the floor. Cleans, snatches, pull variations, and power variations, get some power in you instead of going full strength.
>i don't care for ego and im not looking for big muscles
Frick off then
>even the plates are bigger than usual just to show how much of a big boy u are
It is 2024 and people still don’t think deadlifts will give you a huge back injury
Just put yourself in the mentality of someone that b***hes about deadlifts
How weak is that pers9n overall, how pathethic is their thinking? Extremely weak and pathethic, and because of this, dangerous
>>but who was rdl / sldl
superior lift coming through
add a reach and a deficit and you're goated for life
Why do SS and SL say you should lift for 1×5? Surely that's too little volume.
The idea is that 5x5 squats 3 days a week should be enough volume, and the deadlifts are just to train the movement.
Because those are moronic programs created for dyels, by dyels
Not counting warm up sets. The point is to just add weight every session until you plateau. Then improve your technique until you hit the real muscular plateau. At that point you have mastered the basic lifts and stop SS before you get too fat and go on a intermediate program.
>2024
>not doing pipewalks
ngmi
I realize the odds of getting a good answer here are low, but I just realized I totally round back my deadlifts. How bad is that? I'm up to 4 plates with no injury at all yet. (Please don't offer your opinion if you have a lower deadlift than me)
It's very bad. You're going to snap your shit.
where do you round?
thoracic rounding is not bad
lumbar to a degree is not bad either, if you cat back it then learn to brace better
if you post a video it will be easier to tell
t.250 kg conv
>250kg dl
wtf
Lemme guess, you use wraps?
No. Who uses wraps on deadlifts?
I meant straps
I've never seen someone deadlift raw with shit form, it's always the skinny kids wearing belts and using straps with a cat back
I can only deadlift 30kg 5x5
I tried deadlifting for a bit over a year without doing any of the ego shit and I snapped my back twice. I just can't get the form down apparently, are there any good alternatives?
Hex bar.
back extensions
its 2024 and people still do the single handedly most useless exercise imaginable? its like some of you guys hate making gains
shit looks fake, bar bends even with 4 plates
This from strength training anatomy by Frederick delavier?
yes
No bully
Is this how you should do it ?
https://youtube.com/shorts/vfKwjT5-86k?si=FmYkjL0eaQsHwkMr
I started with these on my leg day and when I walked out of the gym I felt physically traumatized.
Deadlifting gave me a big l5-s1 disc thanks to undiagnosed lumbar scoliosis. People at commercial gyms be mirin 515 deads tho
Hex Bar Deads >>>>>>>>>>>>> Straight Bar Deads
Feel better, way more forgiving in technique, ultra easy to learn, and dramatically lower odds of snapping your shit up
>needing a special snowflake bar just for deadlifts
lmao just pick up the bar Mr. Glassback
Go back to bed, Ripp. It's not 1982 and we aren't poor any more.
Sorry buddy, trips means I'm right despite what rippeshit has to say on the matter
Deads > Squats
>Why not both
Don't care, picking the better exercise
Deadlifts are fun.
Sure DL are fin and sure give you a wide back, but if your objective is train for hypertrophy there are better more low effort/efficient ways to train that are much more less taxing to your body.
I think deadlifts and squats are essential, fundamental exercises that have to be done no matter why you lift weights
Then you’re dogmatic and unable to use reason to form conclusions on that topic
you sound like a redditor
>more low effort
sure
>more efficient
no, because you just replaced adductor, abductor, glute, quad, and spinal erector isolations with just a squat.
>less taxing
is doing 2-3 sets on all those exercises really less taxing than just doing 4 sets of squats?
I do 2x12 deads to failure followed by 2x8 rdls 2x8 sgdl and my body considers it a "medium-light" day effort wise. DL's aren't really that taxing.
I'll trust every single successful bodybuilder over whatever e-celeb you took that advice from, sorry
I don't even know or care what my back looks like, but I still do deadlifts every week. Anyone else know that feel?
I'm stuck at 210 lbs, my grip isn't strong enough
Just use straps on your main sets.
Is that okay? I want to get to.advanced level, that's like 50 lbs away.
You should never use strength standard tables to set goals or alter your training.
It's fine to use straps if grip becomes your limiting factor. Just don't use the straps on the warmup weights/sets.
I was in your shoes a few months ago - get chalk and keep going and your grip will improve.
You can also get wraps if you mostly are about back gains and you're ok with your grip staying weak
I recently started doing wrist curls but I'm still not sure if they help for isometric grip or if they just give curl gains
deadlifting for 5+ years gave me huge traps and erectors. the rest of my back didn't really grow at all
Recent data from the Centers for Disease Control (CDC) suggests that the average weight of men in the US is 199.8 pounds.
I DL 200lbs, so that if it came to it I could get a comatose body off the ground. Why the frick do you need to lift more than that when it's not required?
Lifting a bar is certainly easier than lifting a body, moment arms and what not you would probably have to life more like 300lbs.
A 200lb sandbag would probably be a better comparison.
Nah bro, lifting a body is way easier. Let's see you do this to a fricking barbell and walk away from it.
I have no idea what point your trying to make
That lifting a body is easier than lifting the equivalent weight on a barbell, owing to the fact that you can utilize momentum to overcome the initial inertial resistance of the weight.
m is an object's mass and v is its velocity. momentum p (from Latin pellere "push, drive") is: p = mv. If I combat roll over a body while sprinting at 15mph , then the momentum generated by my body is p = 536.448 kg·m/s.
The inelastic collision created by my crashing into this unconscious fool obeys conservation of momentum, meaning that momentum carries forward into the event & makes it easier to shift the weight. A deadlift in comparison is started without momentum, making it more difficult to accomplish.
If you ever want to properly frick your muscles up, try pausing halfway through a rep & then starting again. The lack of momentum causes you to work harder to overcome the inertia & blows you up for juicy juicy gainz.
Tldr
How's not finishing high school working out for you champ? One of dads buddies get you a job on the docks or are you pumping gas?
Are you actually arguing that its easier to life a 200lb person than a 200lb deadlift with a barbell. Is your name forest?
Yes, because of the ability to introduce momentum. If you can work out how to introduce over 500 kg m/s of momentum to the start of a deadlift, I'd love to see it. And it's Mr Gump to you.
what if there's two unconcious people on the ground? checkmate you moronic DYEL homosexual now get to the gym and don't come home till you can pick up some real weight
>I DL 200lbs, so that if it came to it I could get a comatose body off the ground. Why the frick do you need to lift more than that when it's not required?
A person who can lift more than 200lbs can lift 200lbs easier than someone who can only lift 200lbs, moron. Also, why lift in the first place if you're only concerned about what you absolutely "need" to do?
Isn't one of the big reasons to DL because it spikes HGH and test?
Nah, transient changes in hormones don't affect size or strength gains.
DEADLIFTS ARE FAKE AND GAY
Black folk TONGUE MY ANUS
total powershitter death
you'd be surprised how many "aesthetics" dudes still can't let go of the powershitter memes. deep down they know they're ugly and are prepping for their inevitable visit to the powershitter port in a storm of disappointment.
Zoomers don't want blocky waists and have no interest in fat-c**t boomers like Rippetoe and his deadlift/squat memes, no matter how often he LARPs as Roger Estep with fake pics.
It gave me a huge herniated disc that ill have for the rest of my life