kek that motherfricker spends frick knows how much money into looking younger while he could've achieved that simply by quitting his moronic vegan diet
There has never been a single healthy vegan population. Only transhumanist morons who do it for <5 years on a stack of supplements and drugs before quitting due to health problems. Even vegetarianism is nonsense health-wise. All of the centenarians in "blue zone" areas eat significantly more animal foods than the general world population.
My grandma at 90yo has always eaten plenty of red meat, saturated fats and eggs and has perfect bloodwork if not a bit low on sodium, it's all about proportions. An excess of anything is bad, which you americans are very good at.
Former vegan here who went through extensive health check up last year and has 10 years of blood test results for monitoring. I was told I was one of the healthiest people they had ever seen. Skinny fragile weak looking vegans are like that by choice and not something guaranteed to happen while vegan. The men tend to be beta leftist homosexuals who look down on muscular strong men, so they try to look as weak and dainty as possible on purpose. There are buff vegans, but usually they're more on the conservative side. I'm not vegan anymore, because now I drink 0.5-1.5 liter of raw milk a day and one teaspoon of raw honey a day. I'll only start eating meat again if it's straight from the farmer or if it's hunted. Fishing for fish, obviously and I'm probably never going to eat eggs, because they're too high in cholesterol for being so tiny and I don't like their taste. >Vitamin A
bullshit, not an issue, just enough beta carotene is converted to meet vitamin A needs, never have been deficient >B6
I got at least 150% every day >B12
Some days I got 900% of RDI, without ever touching a pill, never have been deficient while vegan. >D
Sun. Most common deficiency in Northern Europe anyway, even with most people eating copious amounts of animal products. >F
More difficult, not impossible >K2
K1 can be converted into K2, K2 can be acquired from fermented foods. >Carnitine
supplemented that >carsnosine
not essential >cholesterol
better to avoid too much of that >coQ10
I've been smearing that on my face for over a decade now, why do I need to also eat it? >creatine
supplemented that >heme-iron
not necessary, yes nonheme iron is less bioavailable, but there are ways around that >saturated fat
actually a good thing to avoid that >taurine
energy drink habit and healthy body can make its own
There has never been a single healthy vegan population. Only transhumanist morons who do it for <5 years on a stack of supplements and drugs before quitting due to health problems. Even vegetarianism is nonsense health-wise. All of the centenarians in "blue zone" areas eat significantly more animal foods than the general world population.
>There has never been a single healthy vegan population.
7th day adventists
>standard American dieter thinks he's vegan
Lol. Btw, which form of b12 were you consuming? How much algae was in your diet? There are strong indications in your post that you quit being "vegan" because of health complications. You were likely on a b12 deficient diet considering you refused the supplements, unless you were eating shit or algae. It takes 5 years to truly deplete, on average, so you weren't "vegan" for more than 5 years, which means your "10 years" is including your current shitty standard omnivorous junk food diet
11 months ago
Anonymous
I'm a eurogay, not American. I got my B12 from daily energy drink, nutritional yeast and fortified plant milks. I did take algae based supplements for omega 3 and did eat algae just in general. I initially went vegan because I got horrible stomach aches, to the point I went to the emergency department. They thought I had appendicitis, but nope. So I went home and did an elimination diet, figured out that I didn't do well with animal products, especially dairy. I thought for over a decade that I'm lactose intolerant, but then I heard the A2vsA1 milk story recently and decided to try it, since they tested me last year and I'm not actually lactose intolerant. So I still basically eat vegan, unless I can get it straight from the farmer and verify it's A2 milk. Same thing with meat and fish. I don't do well with stuff from the supermarket and factory farmed stuff is highly unethical anyway.
>unironically replying to sv3riges list that he copypasted from hair product bottle
Look it up, if you google "vitamin F" (which was the giveaway, it hasn't been counted as an actual vitamin in forever but overpriced women's products still put that on labels) and "coq10" together, you'll get hair products.
>Another study from May, published in The American Journal of Clinical Nutrition(link opens in new window), found that eating at least 12 eggs a week for three months did not increase cardiovascular risk factors for people with prediabetes and Type 2 diabetes. That result went hand-in-hand with a healthy diet designed to help study participants lose weight.
It literally only suggests as a soft recommender. You will read an entire source and cherrypick a specific quote and then twist it
11 months ago
Anonymous
Ah okay you didnt read the article
11 months ago
Anonymous
I swear these study sites are the worst thing to happen to this board. Here let me break down how this study shows nothing because they gerrymandered the results to show what they wanted
1. Weight loss causes a drop in cholesterol
2. A low saturated fat diet causes reduction in cholesterol levels >Participants with prediabetes or T2D (n = 128) were prescribed a 3-mo daily energy restriction of 2.1 MJ and a macronutrient-matched diet and instructed on specific types and quantities of foods to be consumed, with an emphasis on replacing saturated fats with monounsaturated and polyunsaturated fats.
Its literally right there own the study design, buy of course you didnt read it, because nobody does. They designed the diet so that even with high egg consumption it wouldn't show any issue because it was a diet lower in saturated fat than they were already eating, and it was a calorie restricted diet.
Better yet. The proof that those are in any way good for humans, as in increasing their consumption gives better health, is completely missing. There is none. Nothing. Zero.
>except red meat, saturated fats and eggs are literally ba-
Wrong.
More red meat.
More eggs.
More saturated fat.
More dairy.
More salt.
More sugar.
More fruit.
More calcium.
More magnesium.
More caffeine.
Agree with everything but sugar. In fact I think most points except maybe gluten, caffeine, red meat, and eggs, are commonly considered fine by the general public.
But sugar? No thanks. If you're eating carbs and starch and gluten and fruit like you're saying, maybe some honey too, you're good. No need for white refined sugar. None at all. It's an extremity that has nothing to offer you, eating some carbs before your workout and drinking coffee is perfect, if you think you're seeing a difference from refined sugar it's placebo effect.
You know, I much prefer people with your mindset to fricking vegans. I can't eat everything I like, it makes me ill, but I wish I could. I'd totally eat a shitload of carbs if I could do it without consequences.
There are perfectly healthy vegan people, and countlessly more unhealthy non-vegan people, but none of this argument is about that. It's about machismo "I'm a man cuz I eat meat" bullshit, so why does this board spin it's wheels on it? People so dogmatically tied to eating meat that they can't go a meal without it are just sheeps brainwashed by big meat. I eat meat but I also. Sometimes don't. Vegan complaints about animal conditions are 100% correct, and our slavery to factory farming is comical.
Inb4: >I buy from the farmer
Great, but that's not a scaleable option, that's how we ended up with factory farming. The fact is y'all are all snowflake b***hes with diets that demand globalism. Bunch of weak MfS.
Lol, I've been calling you homosexuals out since well before reddit exodus. Go consoom more meat and tell yourself you're a man for it to hide your deficiencies in life. If you're ready to quit lying to yourself though, listen to Propagandhi's "Less talk, more Rock" and try actually using your head while you listen.
meanwhile the literal healthiest people in the world eat plant based
along with every single nootropic, age-reversing serum and other snake oil just to see if it works because they have too much money.
>I'm poor so I hate rich people
cope and seethe bunkercel
does this include powdered tiger penis, powdered rhino horn and bear bile?
you could gape this guy's ass behind an applebees and he wouldn't make a sound
And take supplements to reintroduce what they lost for not eating meat. Seems about right.
kek that motherfricker spends frick knows how much money into looking younger while he could've achieved that simply by quitting his moronic vegan diet
There has never been a single healthy vegan population. Only transhumanist morons who do it for <5 years on a stack of supplements and drugs before quitting due to health problems. Even vegetarianism is nonsense health-wise. All of the centenarians in "blue zone" areas eat significantly more animal foods than the general world population.
sneed
that dude is wearing makeup and using snapchat filters, why?
Cope?
I really hope you're a 50 yo housewife for believing that shit.
frick off chatgpt generated veganbot
That guy looks like a fricking vampire. He looks incredibly odd and unhealthy
>healthiest people
>look like oblivion characters
His son eats meat.
Bryan is vegan by choice, he admits it’s not the only way to do what he’s doing.
>SUGAR IS.. LE BAD!!
No.
>SATURATED FAT IS.. LE BAD!!
No.
>CARBS ARE.. LE BAD!!
No.
>CHOLESTEROL IS.. LE BAD!!
No.
>STARCH IS.. LE BAD!!
No.
>GLUTEN IS.. LE BAD!!
No.
>LACTOSE IS.. LE BAD!!
No.
>RED MEAT IS.. LE BAD!!
No.
>EGGS ARE.. LE BAD!!
No.
>FISH IS.. LE BAD!!
No.
>DAIRY IS.. LE BAD!!
No.
>FRUIT IS.. LE BAD!!
No.
>VEGETABLES ARE.. LE BAD!!
No.
>POULTRY IS.. LE BAD!!
No.
>GRAINS ARE.. LE BAD!!
No.
>ORGAN MEAT IS.. LE BAD!!
No.
>WATER IS.. LE BAD!!
No.
God made all this tasty food for me to eat, therefore I'm going to eat it. Simple as
except red meat, saturated fats and eggs are literally bad and there are studies to back this up
>except red meat, saturated fats and eggs are literally ba-
Wrong.
More red meat.
More eggs.
More saturated fat.
More dairy.
More salt.
More sugar.
More fruit.
More calcium.
More magnesium.
More caffeine.
100% of people that breathe oxygen die, it literally kills you.
>everyone gets in an accident eventually, so just do 150 on a suburban side road
My grandma at 90yo has always eaten plenty of red meat, saturated fats and eggs and has perfect bloodwork if not a bit low on sodium, it's all about proportions. An excess of anything is bad, which you americans are very good at.
Half of those things aren't even essential
I don't eat for survival.
Nobody asked
refer to
Former vegan here who went through extensive health check up last year and has 10 years of blood test results for monitoring. I was told I was one of the healthiest people they had ever seen. Skinny fragile weak looking vegans are like that by choice and not something guaranteed to happen while vegan. The men tend to be beta leftist homosexuals who look down on muscular strong men, so they try to look as weak and dainty as possible on purpose. There are buff vegans, but usually they're more on the conservative side. I'm not vegan anymore, because now I drink 0.5-1.5 liter of raw milk a day and one teaspoon of raw honey a day. I'll only start eating meat again if it's straight from the farmer or if it's hunted. Fishing for fish, obviously and I'm probably never going to eat eggs, because they're too high in cholesterol for being so tiny and I don't like their taste.
>Vitamin A
bullshit, not an issue, just enough beta carotene is converted to meet vitamin A needs, never have been deficient
>B6
I got at least 150% every day
>B12
Some days I got 900% of RDI, without ever touching a pill, never have been deficient while vegan.
>D
Sun. Most common deficiency in Northern Europe anyway, even with most people eating copious amounts of animal products.
>F
More difficult, not impossible
>K2
K1 can be converted into K2, K2 can be acquired from fermented foods.
>Carnitine
supplemented that
>carsnosine
not essential
>cholesterol
better to avoid too much of that
>coQ10
I've been smearing that on my face for over a decade now, why do I need to also eat it?
>creatine
supplemented that
>heme-iron
not necessary, yes nonheme iron is less bioavailable, but there are ways around that
>saturated fat
actually a good thing to avoid that
>taurine
energy drink habit and healthy body can make its own
>There has never been a single healthy vegan population.
7th day adventists
Post body
>standard American dieter thinks he's vegan
Lol. Btw, which form of b12 were you consuming? How much algae was in your diet? There are strong indications in your post that you quit being "vegan" because of health complications. You were likely on a b12 deficient diet considering you refused the supplements, unless you were eating shit or algae. It takes 5 years to truly deplete, on average, so you weren't "vegan" for more than 5 years, which means your "10 years" is including your current shitty standard omnivorous junk food diet
I'm a eurogay, not American. I got my B12 from daily energy drink, nutritional yeast and fortified plant milks. I did take algae based supplements for omega 3 and did eat algae just in general. I initially went vegan because I got horrible stomach aches, to the point I went to the emergency department. They thought I had appendicitis, but nope. So I went home and did an elimination diet, figured out that I didn't do well with animal products, especially dairy. I thought for over a decade that I'm lactose intolerant, but then I heard the A2vsA1 milk story recently and decided to try it, since they tested me last year and I'm not actually lactose intolerant. So I still basically eat vegan, unless I can get it straight from the farmer and verify it's A2 milk. Same thing with meat and fish. I don't do well with stuff from the supermarket and factory farmed stuff is highly unethical anyway.
>unironically replying to sv3riges list that he copypasted from hair product bottle
Look it up, if you google "vitamin F" (which was the giveaway, it hasn't been counted as an actual vitamin in forever but overpriced women's products still put that on labels) and "coq10" together, you'll get hair products.
>moron admittal
Breh your can barely spell. Was an easy way to piss away existence.
>your can barely spell.
https://www.heart.org/en/news/2018/08/15/are-eggs-good-for-you-or-not#:~:text=A%20large%20egg%20contains%20about,well%20as%20fetal%20brain%20development).
>they are super good for you
>only eat one per day
You people dont ever read what you post
>Another study from May, published in The American Journal of Clinical Nutrition(link opens in new window), found that eating at least 12 eggs a week for three months did not increase cardiovascular risk factors for people with prediabetes and Type 2 diabetes. That result went hand-in-hand with a healthy diet designed to help study participants lose weight.
It literally only suggests as a soft recommender. You will read an entire source and cherrypick a specific quote and then twist it
Ah okay you didnt read the article
I swear these study sites are the worst thing to happen to this board. Here let me break down how this study shows nothing because they gerrymandered the results to show what they wanted
1. Weight loss causes a drop in cholesterol
2. A low saturated fat diet causes reduction in cholesterol levels
>Participants with prediabetes or T2D (n = 128) were prescribed a 3-mo daily energy restriction of 2.1 MJ and a macronutrient-matched diet and instructed on specific types and quantities of foods to be consumed, with an emphasis on replacing saturated fats with monounsaturated and polyunsaturated fats.
Its literally right there own the study design, buy of course you didnt read it, because nobody does. They designed the diet so that even with high egg consumption it wouldn't show any issue because it was a diet lower in saturated fat than they were already eating, and it was a calorie restricted diet.
I hate this board.
Better yet. The proof that those are in any way good for humans, as in increasing their consumption gives better health, is completely missing. There is none. Nothing. Zero.
Nobody cares, you lying vegan homosexual.
I'm not vegan but post one then.
Nobody cares, you lying vegan homosexual
Agree with everything but sugar. In fact I think most points except maybe gluten, caffeine, red meat, and eggs, are commonly considered fine by the general public.
But sugar? No thanks. If you're eating carbs and starch and gluten and fruit like you're saying, maybe some honey too, you're good. No need for white refined sugar. None at all. It's an extremity that has nothing to offer you, eating some carbs before your workout and drinking coffee is perfect, if you think you're seeing a difference from refined sugar it's placebo effect.
You know, I much prefer people with your mindset to fricking vegans. I can't eat everything I like, it makes me ill, but I wish I could. I'd totally eat a shitload of carbs if I could do it without consequences.
Kys Moxyte
There are perfectly healthy vegan people, and countlessly more unhealthy non-vegan people, but none of this argument is about that. It's about machismo "I'm a man cuz I eat meat" bullshit, so why does this board spin it's wheels on it? People so dogmatically tied to eating meat that they can't go a meal without it are just sheeps brainwashed by big meat. I eat meat but I also. Sometimes don't. Vegan complaints about animal conditions are 100% correct, and our slavery to factory farming is comical.
Inb4:
>I buy from the farmer
Great, but that's not a scaleable option, that's how we ended up with factory farming. The fact is y'all are all snowflake b***hes with diets that demand globalism. Bunch of weak MfS.
I can't wait for r/Fitness to reopen so you homosexual Black folk go back.
Lol, I've been calling you homosexuals out since well before reddit exodus. Go consoom more meat and tell yourself you're a man for it to hide your deficiencies in life. If you're ready to quit lying to yourself though, listen to Propagandhi's "Less talk, more Rock" and try actually using your head while you listen.
Okay, I will consume more meat, thanks. Pic related is your final form.
Multiple debunks of that already. Jon Everett is a lying piece of shit as always. Yakuza can’t gut that motherfricker too soon.
typical vegan psychopathy
The most sustainable diet
Some people are willing to compromise their quality of life for their ethical beliefs. I have no issue with vegans like this.
The ones that claim animal foods are unhealthy or try to push their agenda on others I have no time for.
anyone with at least half a brain already knows this
What did they do with the other half? Eat it?
kys meatcuck