point 1 - for beginners, it doesn't matter between minor and major surpluses as both still get amazing gains
point 2 - calorie deficit is detrimental
point 3 - intermediate and advanced lifters see little difference in lean mass gain with bigger surpluses. doc recommends an intermediate gain no more than 1% of body weight per month, and .5% for advanced
an interesting caveat from the MD guy was that sometimes the fat gain isn't a bad thing health-wise (not good or bad) when going up from low bf% to a max of 22% bf
Takeaway - getting fat fast isn't a dependable way to gain muscle mass
So a moderate, clean, surplus. Nothing we didn't already know.
People needed science for this? Use your fricking brains. You can only build so much muscle. It doesnt matter if you are on a 200 surplus, 300, 500, 1000, or 5000 for that matter. The natural limit you can build muscle is still the same.
Science is basically validating what lifters already figured out 50 or more years ago.
thanks for the recap >fat gain isn't a bad thing health-wise (not good or bad) when going up from low bf% to a max of 22% bf
Surprised that it's still fine in the 18-22% range. That's pretty chunky
Well #1 is mental. You have conditioned yourself to thinking "oh wow i ate now 500 surplus, IM SO MUCH MORE STRONGER THAN AT A 300 ONE". Truth is, you probably arent. And secondly it was about muscle hypertrophy. "So much stronger", what does that even mean? If you can build 3kg lean muscle mass in a year, you can build 3kg lean muscle mass in a year. It doesnt matter if your weight went up 10kg, 20kg or 50kg. You still built that 3kg lean muscle mass in a year. Its irrelevant "how strong you felt".
And secondly, when you get fat, you improve your leverages. You get fat faster on a 500 surplus. Thats pretty much the only practical reasoning for it. Its a whole lot easier to bench 140kg when you weigh 100kg vs 70kg. It just is, even if your muscle mass is the same.
People needed science for this? Use your fricking brains. You can only build so much muscle. It doesnt matter if you are on a 200 surplus, 300, 500, 1000, or 5000 for that matter. The natural limit you can build muscle is still the same.
You’re acting like you haven’t seen the countless posts on this board of people eating thousands over maintenance and turning into fat frickers.
>people eating thousands over maintenance and turning into fat frickers.
More like people searching for an excuse to eat industrial amounts of trash food their sinful gluttony commands them to devour like pigs, thus creating the powershitter
>im assuming sub 2pl8 bench is beginner? then yes
I think when the scientists say beginner what they mean is someone who still experiences noobie gains ie linear progression without an optimized diet or training routine, though I may be wrong.
People needed science for this? Use your fricking brains. You can only build so much muscle. It doesnt matter if you are on a 200 surplus, 300, 500, 1000, or 5000 for that matter. The natural limit you can build muscle is still the same.
You realize it's his video right? Obviously he's pushing his stomach out in the picture he made it from that everyone always posts on here. Anyone with core muscles can make themselves look potbellied by relaxing and pushing their stomach out. I've seen smaller ripped dudes do pregnant belly as a joke
no shit
thing that people have been doing for decades and has always worked NO LONGER WORKS according to science?!
can someone give a tldw
is it about doing too big of a caloric surplus?
if yes then why do i feel so much stronger in a 500 surplus than a 300 one?
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point 1 - for beginners, it doesn't matter between minor and major surpluses as both still get amazing gains
point 2 - calorie deficit is detrimental
point 3 - intermediate and advanced lifters see little difference in lean mass gain with bigger surpluses. doc recommends an intermediate gain no more than 1% of body weight per month, and .5% for advanced
an interesting caveat from the MD guy was that sometimes the fat gain isn't a bad thing health-wise (not good or bad) when going up from low bf% to a max of 22% bf
Takeaway - getting fat fast isn't a dependable way to gain muscle mass
So a moderate, clean, surplus. Nothing we didn't already know.
Science is basically validating what lifters already figured out 50 or more years ago.
thanks for the recap
>fat gain isn't a bad thing health-wise (not good or bad) when going up from low bf% to a max of 22% bf
Surprised that it's still fine in the 18-22% range. That's pretty chunky
Well #1 is mental. You have conditioned yourself to thinking "oh wow i ate now 500 surplus, IM SO MUCH MORE STRONGER THAN AT A 300 ONE". Truth is, you probably arent. And secondly it was about muscle hypertrophy. "So much stronger", what does that even mean? If you can build 3kg lean muscle mass in a year, you can build 3kg lean muscle mass in a year. It doesnt matter if your weight went up 10kg, 20kg or 50kg. You still built that 3kg lean muscle mass in a year. Its irrelevant "how strong you felt".
And secondly, when you get fat, you improve your leverages. You get fat faster on a 500 surplus. Thats pretty much the only practical reasoning for it. Its a whole lot easier to bench 140kg when you weigh 100kg vs 70kg. It just is, even if your muscle mass is the same.
Placebo unless you’re a beginner.
You’re acting like you haven’t seen the countless posts on this board of people eating thousands over maintenance and turning into fat frickers.
>people eating thousands over maintenance and turning into fat frickers.
More like people searching for an excuse to eat industrial amounts of trash food their sinful gluttony commands them to devour like pigs, thus creating the powershitter
>Placebo unless you’re a beginner
im assuming sub 2pl8 bench is beginner? then yes
>im assuming sub 2pl8 bench is beginner? then yes
I think when the scientists say beginner what they mean is someone who still experiences noobie gains ie linear progression without an optimized diet or training routine, though I may be wrong.
People needed science for this? Use your fricking brains. You can only build so much muscle. It doesnt matter if you are on a 200 surplus, 300, 500, 1000, or 5000 for that matter. The natural limit you can build muscle is still the same.
How to seduce a guy that looks exactly like this?
be an ugly asian woman
The funniest thing about this thumbnail is that Mike actually looks like this with his fricking HGH gut.
You realize it's his video right? Obviously he's pushing his stomach out in the picture he made it from that everyone always posts on here. Anyone with core muscles can make themselves look potbellied by relaxing and pushing their stomach out. I've seen smaller ripped dudes do pregnant belly as a joke
on the flip side anyone can suck their guts in and flex their abs to appear to have a flat midsection
This guy looks like the monster from resident evil. holy shit what went wrong?
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