I imagine I am throwing dough down in between kneeding it.
It's the exact motion.
The 40 pounder is the heaviest dumbbell in my garage 🙁
SLOW eccentrics.
Honestly I misunderstood what the op was portraying. I'm at the gym so I didn't look at it too hard. Anyways, do barbell rows or bent over rows with a wide grip instead, 7-8 rpe for 6-8 reps. Thank me later.
Just try them and ditch the minimalist mindset.
https://i.imgur.com/MJgQXbK.jpg
Yeah man, lifting shit from the back of your head. Totally a legit and natural movement that we should perform with heavy weight.
If you can't do them that's fine, but BTN barbell press is really close to a db press, just do that instead.
Oh yeah, forgot to mention that a weak rotator cuff can cause issues as well, but that's really easy to fix, just directly train your rotator cuff (internal/external rotation) and you'll be good. Rear delt work will help as well
I honestly think that most people who fuck themselves up on BTNP do so because the scapular upward rotation demands are much higher than on OHP, which results in shoulder impingement since they aren't able to upwardly rotate their scapula early enough in the movement to avoid shoulder impingement. To solve this, just start light and really work on forcing scapular upward rotation with your upper traps, and then you'll be good. This is just my personal theory, but it makes sense to me lol
I just start light. I like that I actually feel it in my shoulders.
OHP just doesn't hit the same.
Idk if I'm doing these wrong, but they feel like they take a while to get a pump going. Could just be that the weight is too light but I usually get in 30 reps on the first set.
Honestly I misunderstood what the op was portraying. I'm at the gym so I didn't look at it too hard. Anyways, do barbell rows or bent over rows with a wide grip instead, 7-8 rpe for 6-8 reps. Thank me later.
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Why not both? Pullovers are great for hitting the lats in the lengthened position, and they're good for serratus too. Doesn't cost much since they aren't very fatiguing at all
Also wide grip pullovers are sick for outer lats/teres major, very based exercise IMO
I do them standing personally but either is fine. Not really an issue on these anyway since you don't need to get your head out of the way like on normal OHP
This only occurs due to >improper scapula mechanics >not enough shoulder mobility
The former is really easy to fix, just focus on upwardly rotating your scapula as hard as you can to ensure that you don't impinge your shoulder. The latter is also pretty easy, just do your shoulder mobility work and you'll be good. Behind the neck press is a time tested exercise, no one who gets good at these has small delts. Very based movement >b-but you'll get injured!
Nope, just don't be a retard and you'll be fine. If you don't want to do it then fine, I'll take your delt gains for myself then lol
Straight arm pull downs work lats
Well he was talking about rope pushdowns, which are a tricep exercise, not a lat exercise. Straight arm pulldowns are a different movement entirely (still great tho, but not the same as a pullover. I would just do both tbh)
Oh yeah, forgot to mention that a weak rotator cuff can cause issues as well, but that's really easy to fix, just directly train your rotator cuff (internal/external rotation) and you'll be good. Rear delt work will help as well
I honestly think that most people who fuck themselves up on BTNP do so because the scapular upward rotation demands are much higher than on OHP, which results in shoulder impingement since they aren't able to upwardly rotate their scapula early enough in the movement to avoid shoulder impingement. To solve this, just start light and really work on forcing scapular upward rotation with your upper traps, and then you'll be good. This is just my personal theory, but it makes sense to me lol
You could say this about literally any movement we do in the gym. How often do you load stuff onto your back before sitting down and standing up? How often do you lie down and lower an object to your chest before pressing it back up?
In reality, any movement that the human body can perform is natural. Any movement we cannot perform is unnatural, therefore we don't have to consider them since we can't perform them in the first place.
I like these because I like to imagine that they make me stronger at striking with a downward blow of a battle axe/warhammer
it really does feel very unique
Looks like internal rotation while having hands about the shoulders.
I imagine I am throwing dough down in between kneeding it.
It's the exact motion.
SLOW eccentrics.
Just try them and ditch the minimalist mindset.
If you can't do them that's fine, but BTN barbell press is really close to a db press, just do that instead.
I just start light. I like that I actually feel it in my shoulders.
OHP just doesn't hit the same.
I can tell you they for sure help with splitting wood, lat pulldowns as well
How do you do this without looking dumb
lay on the bench instead of doing whatever the fuck OP posted
Idk if I'm doing these wrong, but they feel like they take a while to get a pump going. Could just be that the weight is too light but I usually get in 30 reps on the first set.
You obviously need higher weight.
The 40 pounder is the heaviest dumbbell in my garage 🙁
In your home job with only your pets watching.
home gym*
you don't, this is one of those meme "mind muscle connection" exercises that look retarded unless you're already jacked
whats a good replacement for them?
Honestly rope push downs rpe 7-8 for 12-15 reps brother super set them with some curl variation
>lat exercise can be replaced with a tricep exercise
What
Honestly I misunderstood what the op was portraying. I'm at the gym so I didn't look at it too hard. Anyways, do barbell rows or bent over rows with a wide grip instead, 7-8 rpe for 6-8 reps. Thank me later.
Why not both? Pullovers are great for hitting the lats in the lengthened position, and they're good for serratus too. Doesn't cost much since they aren't very fatiguing at all
Also wide grip pullovers are sick for outer lats/teres major, very based exercise IMO
isnt all on the same body
Straight arm pull downs work lats
imagine giving a shit at how "dumb" an exercise looks. what are you, a woman?
no but a lot of women are looking
>hey who's that guy who's really getting a good eccentric stretch on that tricep exercise, he's cute.
just dont be a dyel
When you do pullovers, are you supposed to grip the handle of the dumbbell or grab the bottom of the top plates?
I've seen it recommended both ways. I prefer hands on the plate with my non-dominant hand touching first.
I put my palms on the pl8s
Tried pullovers for the first time last workout, did one rep and instantly felt it in my elbows. Fuck that.
>gives you massive side delts
>filters jointlets
Love em
why not standing to also train balance?
I do them standing personally but either is fine. Not really an issue on these anyway since you don't need to get your head out of the way like on normal OHP
You'll have joint issues doing this retarded hipster fag version of the overhead press. Some faster, some slower, but you'll regret it.
This only occurs due to
>improper scapula mechanics
>not enough shoulder mobility
The former is really easy to fix, just focus on upwardly rotating your scapula as hard as you can to ensure that you don't impinge your shoulder. The latter is also pretty easy, just do your shoulder mobility work and you'll be good. Behind the neck press is a time tested exercise, no one who gets good at these has small delts. Very based movement
>b-but you'll get injured!
Nope, just don't be a retard and you'll be fine. If you don't want to do it then fine, I'll take your delt gains for myself then lol
Well he was talking about rope pushdowns, which are a tricep exercise, not a lat exercise. Straight arm pulldowns are a different movement entirely (still great tho, but not the same as a pullover. I would just do both tbh)
Oh yeah, forgot to mention that a weak rotator cuff can cause issues as well, but that's really easy to fix, just directly train your rotator cuff (internal/external rotation) and you'll be good. Rear delt work will help as well
I honestly think that most people who fuck themselves up on BTNP do so because the scapular upward rotation demands are much higher than on OHP, which results in shoulder impingement since they aren't able to upwardly rotate their scapula early enough in the movement to avoid shoulder impingement. To solve this, just start light and really work on forcing scapular upward rotation with your upper traps, and then you'll be good. This is just my personal theory, but it makes sense to me lol
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There is nothing wrong with moving your shoulders this way
Yeah man, lifting shit from the back of your head. Totally a legit and natural movement that we should perform with heavy weight.
You could say this about literally any movement we do in the gym. How often do you load stuff onto your back before sitting down and standing up? How often do you lie down and lower an object to your chest before pressing it back up?
In reality, any movement that the human body can perform is natural. Any movement we cannot perform is unnatural, therefore we don't have to consider them since we can't perform them in the first place.
#1 is still the Pendlay row. I never see anyone else doing them.