I've been posting on this forum for 10 years and I've noticed a very big difference in how millenials and zoomers approach nutrition.
Millenials were very big on iifym. Anything went so long as caloric and macronutrient needs were met. There was a very wide gradient between anons who ate clean and anons who lived off of poptarts and protein shakes. Admittedly most were closer to the latter.
Nowadays zoomers care much more about nutrient density and food quality, but can't even agree about whether counting calories works. Instead of having a gradient of eating habits, there are dozens of dietary tribes like keto, carnivore, Peatism, The vertical diet, etc and zoomers will kill to defend these tribes.
What happened? Which mindset is better?
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idk man i just eat fr fr on god :joy: :joy: :joy:
The one that eats clean and balanced whole foods.
look at how millennials look. that's all you need to know about iifym
It works?
better than zoomies? iifym it is
Zoomers are the biggest bunch of homosexuals since the beginning of mankind.
Why did milennials end up like the boomers they despise?; It's ironic how you've fallen for the same trap of hating the younger generation after you for reasons that aren't their fault. That is exactly how boomers acted with you lot.
Millenialbros? Our response?
Too busy sipping on a hoppy IPA to respond
clearly it was a response tho?
They're just the same dumbfricks that perpetuate the hate on the previous generation without a hint of irony that they're being treated the same way by boomers
The cycle of hatred will be stopped by Gen Z because we're just morally superior than the previous batch. We're a more empathetic, more kind, smarter, less prejudice, and are more open-minded generation than the previous failed batch. We're more based than boomers and millenials ITT combined tenfold.
This is probably a good post that encapsulates why zoomers are moronic and gay.
Being a teenage narcissist isn't new but being so dumb you broadcast that narcissism as something transcendental is.
>He doesn't even see the irony
Typical millennial behavior. I just find it too funny man
The internet happened. For whatever reason there were far less niche fitness/nutrition fads going on when millennials were early 20s, probably because it was far more difficult for the average moron to monetize some schizo fitness theory. The first time someone told me they wanted to be a YouTuber I thought it was the most fricking moronic thing I’d ever heard anyone say because A.I was before most people had any idea the average moron could make money on social media B.it was seen as incredibly lame to have a YouTube channel. So you didn’t have thousands of fricking moronic dickheads telling you that eating keto is the only path for humanity or if you work out for more than 45 minutes you’re an idiot. On the flipside a lot of useful information likeresearch papers on microneedling for hair loss is far easier to come across these days.
It’s literally human nature you god damned morons. You’re doing the exact same thing by thinking you know more and will be any different. It’s an endless cycle
>less prejudice
>I've been posting on this forum for 10 years and food still bothers me.
still fat and dyel?
nutrition is only a problem for people who sit still for half the day and don't know how life feels.
>Millenials were very big on iifym. Anything went so long as caloric and macronutrient needs were met.
>Admittedly most were closer to the latter.
Also been here for more then 10 years. This is not the impression that i have, my impression of the IIFYM is that most of that food was supposed to be clean, healthy, nutrient dense food, but if you added some shit here and there it was not a big deal as long as you stuck to your caloric goal, got your proteins, and quality nutrition overall.
Your view of iifym is the most rational and imo correct, however there were many more morons bulking on mcdoubles.
Zoomies just get on the hype train of what they see on social media. In reality they eat what mommy makes them
zoomers love identifying themselves with labels. they have to attach themselves to one or two things and make it their whole personality
A fad, trend, or craze is any form of collective behavior that develops within a culture, a generation or social group in which a group of people enthusiastically follow an impulse for a short time period.
Marketing is the process of identifying customers and "creating, communicating, delivering, and exchanging" goods and services for the satisfaction and retention of those customers. It is one of the primary components of business management and commerce.
We're omnivores. We're perfectly capable of performing optimally on a wide range of diets.
Remember, when planning your diet and nutrition always consult a professional before making any drastic changes. Ensure that 50-75% of your protein intake consists of insects to ensure you are hitting your caloric needs.
>Nowadays zoomers care much more about nutrient density and food quality
that's just (actual useful) progress
I did iffyjiffy as a moomer, managed to frick my shit up due to moronation, now I'm doing the boomer shit of med diet, trying to avoid a repeat of my previous mistakes
Absolutely agreed. I did iifym a decade ago and suffered because I would have days where I ate McDonald's at noon and then couldn't eat for the rest of the day because I didn't have any more calories. These days I meal prep whole foods.
>I did iifym a decade ago and suffered because I would have days where I ate McDonald's at noon and then couldn't eat for the rest of the day because I didn't have any more calories
Then you did it wrong. If you had to stop eating at noon because you were above your calories then it didn't fit your macros. Iifym means it doesn't matter what you eat as long as you adhere to total amount of cal/protein/fat/carbs youre allowed for the day. You did an I'm gonna eat whatever the frick I want with no real plan and stop at a certain calorie amount. Iifym requires you to have some sort of planning involved even if the type of food you eat each day varies
>Then you did it wrong
Haha yeah that was the point of my post.
>I did iitfym
>Actually I didn't do iifym
I did iifym, I just did it poorly.
homie u mad
yup I fricked my shit up by too long a cut with noliftan, which rekt my connective tissue, predictably (if I weren't rarted)
>Which mindset is better?
IIFYM, of course
How can you defend keto/carnivore/vegan extremists when we're omnivorous and thrive eating every living thing in front of us?
We simply have to eat anything and everything as long as we
>hit protein goals
>hit a minimum of fat for health purposes
>adjust carbs balance (simple/complex) and amount based on current goal
It's that simple
>we're omnivorous
Reminder that virtually all fruit and vegetables you can buy at the store didn't exist just two hundred years ago, and that none of the vegetables or grains that people eat existed until humanity hybridized them into existence. Oh, and fruit only grew for one or two months in the wild. Humans have only been eating potatoes for less than three hundred years. Before agriculture and selective breeding, it was literally impossible to eat a non-marginal amount of carbohydrates, let alone live off them.
>count calories
>eat whole foods
>no seed oils
simple as
t. zoomer
what is this dog from
Idk it's a zoomer reaction image. (They have funnier reaction images)
A diet consisting of almost entirely of red meat is optimal for health. Evolutionarily speaking.
Is sister pussy red meat?
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i dont fricking care anymore
Keto feels like it's been around for ages though
same with IF
Anyway, people who claim basic CICO is irrelevant are going to have a bad time.
I decided twelve beers a day fit my macros and I got super huge and grew voluptuous man boobs. Now I've quit the booze and am working on losing all this weight.
It's pretty simple. Zoomers have an ultra competitive culture due to social media so the iifym idea isn't enough, millennials have more of a "it's good enough" approach especially since as a generation millennials find actually trying "embarrassing" or shameful. Zoomer mentality is I HAVE TO BE THE BEST. You can see this in all spaces not just fitness. Look at videogames or sports and such
I think this is a sound observation. Millenials made their bed but I feel bad for zoomers who were born in an environment where they had to be this way.
more like zoomies are mentally deranged hyper materalistic rats trying to figure out why either maximizing everything in their lives or outright giving up within the metrics of culturally bankrupt post capitalism isn't helping them get off the five different depression meds they are on
Both zoomers and millennials are cringe so their opinion doesn't matter
What are you gen alpha kids doing?
Your mom
Kind of right, kind of wrong. The "Millenial" mentality was "I want to get big fast" and steroids were largely looked down on, especially if you were young and just doing it for looks so people pushed GOMAD and dirty bulk/cut routines as standard. Now the Zoomer mentality is all about looking fit mainly by using gear and seeing large up front gains while having absolutely no idea what you are actually doing and fricking yourself up in the long run.
Zoomers haven't learned about thermodynamics or control system feedback yet.
what the frick are you talking about lol
>Nowadays zoomers care much more about nutrient density and food quality,
literally could not be more wrong. you are so delusional and out of touch that its not even worth it to begin decipher this.
>Bla Bla Bla Bla
Shut'cho b***h ass up stupid ah Black person
No
CICO is objectively not helpful. This is just indisputable logically because it assumes metabolism is always satisfactory and constant, which is just not the case.
>it assumes metabolism is always satisfactory and constant
No, it doesn't even assume the existence of metabolism. Instead, it treats the human body as a combustion engine, where everything that is eaten is absorbed to the same degree that it would liberate energy when burned. They literally burn food in a bomb calorimeter.
it's extremely helpful if you are not autistic
>perpetual fatso engines
looks like we solved the energy crisis
i'm 19 and i don't fricking count anything, i just eat what it's healthy and tasty for my body, everything from local sources, especially milk and vegetables and prime top tier extra virgin olive oil (i live in spain).
That's how my family from the caucasus taught me, that's how i eat and i feel nice.
>t. at 18 i was 130kg.
Zoomers are autistic and need everything explicitly described and outlined in extreme detail. They cannot handle "iifym". That is not descriptive enough. If you put them in a kitchen and said "just make a meal that fits your macros" they would not know what to do. They need step by step instructions.
>They cannot handle "iifym"
>Yeah bro just listen to my shitty vague advice bro I'm just too pussy to be more elaborate on my part I'm too scared to give advice
That's why your generation got that "IIFYM" ugly ass deteriorating build. If I see an ugly DYEL walking near the street, I can instantly tell that they're the IIFYM malnourished millenial crowd because they are all bunch of crab mentality homosexuals
Those who jump into veganism, keto, etc are the ones who suffer from gut problems that no amount of broscience like more fiber and water brah would've helped
The hype of "NEW DIET HACK (BURN YOUR FAT)(APPROVED BY SCIENCE) has rotted zoomer brains.
These diets essentially just do CICO but with a twist.
I am a zillennial and therefore superior to all of you losers.
The people following the schizo diets are all millennials. They just graduated from eating whatever.
Now it's the zoomers who eat whatever.
I've never ever heard of a zoomer doing keto or carni. But every second boomer is on some stupid elimination diet.
>millenials and zoomers
If you've been here ten years you'd know how meaningless and stupid these words are.
Typical millennial behavior. You hate your culture and hate what defines you. Now look at what the world has become, n words everywhere and lack of identity. GEE I WONDER WHY
there is a clear difference though
>my generation: normal human beings
>other generations: moronic mongloids
is it clearer now?
I eat good shit that I know has a lot of protein and try to avoid sugar. That’s all I do.
Much like most of life, it's a healthy mix of the two. Meeting macros and calories is something that always needs to be strived for, but just shoving anything in is going to more harm than good obviously. It's really up to the individual to research and experiment what works for them. Funnily enough, same goes for a workout plan.
I've been on and off around here for 13 years and I think you're a bit mixed up here
all of those dietary tribes you mention were carved out from millennial/Gen X niches who have now crystallized their in-group lore and are now enthralling zoomer foot soldiers to invade the territory of enemy tribes. The internet had not been populated with memetic diet tribes 13 years ago so the millennials were making it up on the fly with the occasional Gen Xer in a much less toxic and dense environment
this is true in a lot of ways
so much of how zoomers define themselves is from them watching millennials