I've noticed something. All elite fighters, boxers etc have fit but slim legs and very developed upper bodies. I thought legs were the most important muscle group for athletics and that power comes from the legs. That's why squatting is supposed to be so good. Did fit lie to me?
This is a proportionate physique. What's your point?
He would be called a leglet on fit and you know it.
>this was the best mma fighter in the world
Leg are for WALKING
not TRAINING
Jons calves are truly a sight to behold.
Jon Jones does powerlifting lmao. He pulls 600 and squats 500.
people on this board (including you) are too moronic to understand that
A - calves dont fricking grow sideways no matter how big they are
B - you can't criticize someone's legs through their shorts
You can see his quads righ there, you fricking moron. Nobody is talking about his calves.
you can see like five inches above his knees you knuckle dragging moron
Yeah, that's where your quadricep's heads are, you fricking mongoloid. Do you think his quads are situated next to his dick?
A they do. You just moronic eith no calves.
Wow, a bunch of ugly morons and dyels would call him a leglet. How would he ever recover?
It's because this board is filled with squatcels
nerds who never did any lifting or sports in high school and got into lifting in their late teens or early twenties, they have shit upper bodies so instead of working to get good upper bodies they do the easiest shit around which is getting big legs and then call anyone who has a good upper body and doesn't have huge oversized legs "chicken legs" which is ironic seeing as these powershitter types literally look like chickens, huge quads but no calves at all
How do people not understand you can be strong, and not big. Especially if you do tons of cardio.
Power comes from the legs because you pivot your body to throw a punch.
>pivot your body
Meaning power comes from your core? Yes, your core rotates your shoulders which is 90% of punching power.
You can knock someone out while sitting on your ass, you can't knock someone out without rotating your core. All heavy punchers have thick waists but never big legs, usually they have small legs.
The rotation is at your hips. The pelvis is literally the anchoring point for almost all movement in your body.
You are moronic as frick, the hips just need to be strong enough to keep you stable.
Train boxing for a few months and tell me that legs play no part in power, legs are everything. You start at the legs, transfer the power into your core, upper back, shoulder, then snap your punch
No, you start at the core, and your legs keep you from falling over like a moron. WHY DO BOXERS DO COUNTLESS DIPS AND PUSHUPS AND YET NONE OF THEM SQUAT HEAVY? GEEE, I REALLY WONDER HAHA
I don’t like conventional because my legs are so long, it’s difficult to avoid bending my back. Double underhand sounds neat though, I usually do mixed grip.
I've been boxing for close to a decade. You don't know what you're talking about. The rotation of your shoulders generates power, you can generate enough power to knock someone out while sitting down even.
You can have stick legs (most heavy punchers do) and throw absolute bombs if your core and upper body are strong.
You're the only fricker in this thread that knows what he is talking about. You punch from the bottom up. If you don't get this then shut the frick up.
yeah so of course every boxer has huge legs right so they can punch strong right
right
legs are heavy and limit mobility, any sport that has weight classes or preferentially selects for low body-weight proportionally has small legs.
Lol Wlad is 6'6 and fought at 240+. You have no idea what you're talking about. It's not a weight class issue.
240 isn't heavy at 6'6
large legs just make movements such as the triangle choke less efficient, harder to lock out.
I climb for a living and swim as a hobby, training my quads would make me less efficient at both.
>240 isn't heavy at 6'6
It is for a boxer. But my point was that he's a heavyweight and is not limited by a weight class. Heavyweight has no upper limit.
if only it were so easy, the more mass you have the harder it is on your cardiovascular system.
he'd be 270-280lbs if he trained his legs, and only lose stamina and gain nothing, won't make him hit any harder.
I'm not disagreeing with you, dude.
I know, I'm just saying even if you can get as heavy as you want it's not always a good idea to do so, the heavier you are the more taxing it is to fight, large legs would make their leg movement worse rather than better.
at the elite level of sports, there's always a reason why people are shaped the way they are, and telling them to fix an imbalance would make their performance worse rather than better.
Is this why I suck at swimming kek? When I do it I mostly use my legs to push myself
Also you look like a god
you probably have a short torso and heavy legs if you're bad at swimming, or maybe you're of african descent, they have higher bone density than europeans hence why you hardly ever see them with an exception for women in which the variability isn't as wide.
limb length also plays a factor but it doesn't throw your balance off as much in the water as your torso and legs do.
SEXOOOOO!
I am white and tall but I have disproportionately long legs. T. rex mode sort of. I look like a manlet in pics of just my upper body but I’m like 6’ and a half inch in reality
>Is this why I suck at swimming kek? When I do it I mostly use my legs to push myself
Yes
You're supposed to use mostly your arms to swim. The only time you'd use your legs to move more than your arms would be kicking with a board, which isn't a stroke anyway. My kicking is absolute shit and I was decently fast as a waterpolo player
>Climb for a living
Turbine techs with assisted climbs are homosexuals
here I am hanging attached to a crane, I use ropes to climb monumental trees, upper body driven because you can't use spurs for these (fricks up the bark and leaves ugly scars), some forms of climbing are leg driven though, but even those kinds of climbers tend to be skinny.
I have a friend that's shaped like that too, his legs are like 2/3 of his height, sucks ass at swimming too.
>I have a friend that's shaped like that too, his legs are like 2/3 of his height, sucks ass at swimming too.
Makes sense
You’re the guy who does 100 reps of OHP to get better at sumo wrestling or smth like that right? So based. I love OHP. Barbell OHP and heavy ass 1 arm dumbbell rows are probably my favourite lifts. It’s just unfortunate that my gym doesn’t have a squat rack so I have to clean the weight myself which makes me prefatigued.
more or less, I want to be able to do this.
but also I mostly lift to be good at my job and make my hobbies enjoyable, swimming is not fun if you're bad at it.
I feel that.
I do karate and lifting has definitely helped me get better at it. It’s always funny to see the people spamming the >a punch’s power comes from the legs meme because you just know they’ve never done any sort of combat sport in their entire life. The legs just stabilize you so you don’t fall over like a cartoon character. In fact for this reason I’m considering starting to only do Jefferson deadlifts for legs because they train that hip stability more than any other lift afaik.
I only do deadlift variations for legs because it translates to athletic performance more than any other leg exercise, and doesn't make your quads big.
jefferson deadlifts are based too.
Aye. Right now I do sumo deadlift mostly but I’ve been getting bored of it. going to start my Jefferson arc now.
I lift conventionally with a stiff bar using double underhand grip because I think it's a more natural position compared to overhand grip, even mixed is a more likely scenario to happen in real life than overhand will ever be, you're never going to pick anything up like that besides a bar, almost all lifts are with underhand for grip.
>Double underhand
Goodnight sweet biceps
I've never had as much as a strain.
trying to get to 10x20 now.
You are sir are so fricking hot. Do you have an OF?
Second Question:
What is your routine?
Third Question:
What is your diet / nutrition?
I used to have to call up guys on our on-call rotation and send them to climb 250ft+ towers to replace shit in active storms.
Mad respect, frick them companies.
homie built like baki
nice try 10x10 you cant hide from me
power comes from the hips aka nasty core and obliques which all these guys have. only 1 of the 4 quadriceps muscles even attach to your pelvis of course large quads mean little to power.
hip flexors you cant even see because they are inside you and obliques and glutes are what matters
That's silly. Quads give stability , take down power, kicking power, lifting power. Etc etc. Maybe they don't help that much with punches but they help with fighting overall
>kicking power
Meh. I have larger quads than one would think based on the lack of leg days I do, but that's because I tend to store my fat on my thighs and ass. Quads have little to do with kicking power beyond just providing increased mass. Kicking is all bodyweight control and kinetic chain
He's a fricking boxer you moron. They use their legs for positioning mostly.
Yes, but this board is full of moronic rejects who think the power in a punch comes from your fricking quads.
Why would a boxer need thick legs? They need to be quick and agile not produce a ton of power out of the legs
Because he's a boxer. Same thing why only powershitters do conventional deadlifts while athletes do trap bar deadlifts instead.
>power comes from the legs
it comes form everything
your rotation, your weight, your legs, it's a combination, it doesnt come from a single point and it has mislead me in to getting wrong my punching form
Boxing/mma have weight classes, so there's a ruleset advantage to having skinny/lightweight legs, if you look at heavyweight/uncapped fighters they often have very large legs
legs mean very little in a fight, it's all core and conditioning. The muscles you see on a fighter are the muscles needed for fighting, otherwise they wouldn't have those muscles.
Even heavyweights are conscious of their weight, they won't pack on any more mass than required. And boxers need to move both forward and backwards and laterally, they don't need strong legs to lift a lot of weight they just need legs that have a lot of endurance
I've met this man irl. He is a fricking beast at 2m tall.
moron power sharter legs are pointless and probably detrimental to practical activity.
Big legs are unaesthetic and a massive cope for powershitters.
overly developed legs makes your footwork slower plus doesn't translate well for kicks anyway
its all in the core hips and gloots. the most important parts for power