I've started using butter instead of olive oil to cook because it's cheaper and I prefer the flavor but it's looks like it's prett...

I've started using butter instead of olive oil to cook because it's cheaper and I prefer the flavor but it's looks like it's pretty unhealthy, should I go back to using olive oil?

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  1. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    >it looks like it's pretty unhealthy
    What could you possibly mean by this?

  2. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    the only reason to avoid butter is if you fear saturated fat. otherwise it's a healthy, natural fat with more calcium, choline, vitamin A, vitamin B12 etc than olive oil

  3. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Olive oil or coconut oil, everything else is unhealthy

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      >butter and tallow are bad for you
      moronic post. I bet he doesn't even know 80% of olive oils are contaminated with seed oils.

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        >80% of olive oils
        Fake stat pushed on morons by Facebook moms. Just buy California olive ranch or something PDO from Italy or Greece. Shits not rocket science.

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          >fake stat
          >but make sure you don't buy 80% of olive oils
          Cognitive dissonance...?

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      Really? I've heard you can't cook with olive oil, but using it as salad dressing is okay

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        https://www.researchgate.net/publication/351401180_Cooking_with_Extra_Virgin_Olive_Oil

        Read this and tell me what you think? I still see it on the bottles in the store saying evoo is meant for salad dressing only, but now i'm not so sure

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          I'm not reading that. Don't burn your butter or your olive oil. Mix em if you want a higher smoke point, otherwise standard cooking with these two fats is fine

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Smoke point is not the end-all-be-all when assessing a cooking oil, says Selina Wang, PhD, a professor in the department of food science and technology and research director of the Olive Center at the University of California, Davis. Rather, she points out, smoke point "is a crude physical measurement of an oil when it starts to have visible smoke....Research in more recent years has shown that smoke point does not correlate well with the changes in the chemical composition of an oil during heating. The chemical changes are much more complex and depend on many variables such as the moisture, acidity, and antioxidant properties of an oil."

            >Wang references a 2018 study that compared olive oil with other oils during heating. It clearly showed that extra virgin olive oil is the most stable when heated, and produces the least amount of polar compounds (the harmful by-products that come from heating oils). In fact, all other vegetable oils high in polyunsaturated fats were found to produce more polar compounds when heated despite their high smoke points.

            So you're saying this for example is bullshit?

            • 8 months ago
              Anonymous

              not reading it, frick you.

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                What the hell is wrong with you?

            • 8 months ago
              Anonymous

              Sure. Still not reading any of it. Smoke is typically some type of carcinogen so avoid excessive smoke

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        you can people only say this because of its low smoke point but even if it smokes it doesn't changes the flavour/healthyness

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        https://www.researchgate.net/publication/351401180_Cooking_with_Extra_Virgin_Olive_Oil

        Read this and tell me what you think? I still see it on the bottles in the store saying evoo is meant for salad dressing only, but now i'm not so sure

        >Smoke point is not the end-all-be-all when assessing a cooking oil, says Selina Wang, PhD, a professor in the department of food science and technology and research director of the Olive Center at the University of California, Davis. Rather, she points out, smoke point "is a crude physical measurement of an oil when it starts to have visible smoke....Research in more recent years has shown that smoke point does not correlate well with the changes in the chemical composition of an oil during heating. The chemical changes are much more complex and depend on many variables such as the moisture, acidity, and antioxidant properties of an oil."

        >Wang references a 2018 study that compared olive oil with other oils during heating. It clearly showed that extra virgin olive oil is the most stable when heated, and produces the least amount of polar compounds (the harmful by-products that come from heating oils). In fact, all other vegetable oils high in polyunsaturated fats were found to produce more polar compounds when heated despite their high smoke points.

        So you're saying this for example is bullshit?

        For cooking use normal olive oil for dressing/taste use extra virgin olive oil. Come on.

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          >normal olive oil
          Anon, you know this bright yellow oil is not from olives, right? Extra virgin olive oil is normal olive oil, anything else is adulterated and absolutely not made in a "normal" way.

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            they tint the bottle so you can't see inside anyway, you have to make sure it's certified

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          moron alert. The Greeks cook with and deep fry in extra virgin olive oil every day and don't have any issues with it.

  4. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    >but it's looks like it's pretty unhealthy
    its not

  5. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's not unhealthy unless you burn it. All shilling against butter is paid by Procter & Gamble and similar israelites. People have been eating fat from animals for hundreds of thousands of years, much longer than we've been making olive oil.
    in short :
    cold dressings : fruit oil of your choice (olive, avocado...)
    spread : butter
    low temp cooking : butter or animal fat
    high temp cooking : animal fat

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      Learn the smoke points and don't burn your shit. Get a noncontact thermometer.
      You can use clarified butter if you wanna go over 350 and it's not super hard to make yourself either.

  6. 8 months ago
    SwedishBrorsan

    is that an unseasoned carbon steel pan ?

  7. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    butter is fine in moderation but yes you should be using a vegetable oil for the majority of your cooking.

    • 8 months ago
      SwedishBrorsan

      found the fat israelite moron sneed oil salesman

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        found the fat schizo

        >fine in moderation
        These 3 words are said by people who have no idea what they're talking about. Healthy foods don't suddenly become unhealthy when you eat over the magical hypothetical "healthy butter limit."

        Butter is healthy in all quantities. Obviously you can eat too much of any food and become obese and being obese is not good for you, but that has nothing to do with the "fine in moderation" statement.

        excessive saturated fat has been shown time and time again to be bad for your health. therefore, you should """moderate""" your intake.

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          >has been shown time and time again
          That's weird, because I have studies that show "time and time again" that it hasn't been found to be bad for your health.

          Hm, who is right? The guy promoting saturated fat, which humans have been eating in large quantities for literally all of human history except the past 50 years, or the other guy?

          https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32562735/
          >Saturated Fats and Health: A Reassessment and Proposal for Food-Based Recommendations: JACC State-of-the-Art Review
          >Most recent meta-analyses of randomized trials and observational studies found no beneficial effects of reducing SFA intake on cardiovascular disease (CVD) and total mortality, and instead found protective effects against stroke.
          >Whole-fat dairy, unprocessed meat, and dark chocolate are SFA-rich foods with a complex matrix that are not associated with increased risk of CVD.
          >The totality of available evidence does not support further limiting the intake of such foods.

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            okay, so what are you going to choose? you have lots of conflicting data to look through. have some more information, I don't care what you eat.
            >https://www.the-nutrivore.com/post/a-comprehensive-rebuttal-to-seed-oil-sophistry
            once you read all that, log off. your brain is fried from too much internet
            >humans have done this thing long time so it's healthy
            non an argument

            • 8 months ago
              Anonymous

              >links a blog as his source
              >doesn't even quote anything from it or make any points
              >99.9999% of human history is a "long time"

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                >too stupid to read

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                >too stupid to make a coherent point
                >too stupid to quote anything interesting from his blog
                >too stupid to be able to convince anyone to read his blog
                I honestly don't know why you're responding to me at this point.

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                many people lurk here and get information moron. I don't care enough to convince fat schizos that eating a lot of saturated fat is bad for you. any anon curious about this topic will find all the information they need there.

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                That's nice anon, I'm just pointing out you are too lazy and stupid to make a coherent argument yourself, and that's why all you do is post a link and say "read it." You're also just wrong, but that's a separate thing.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      >fine in moderation
      These 3 words are said by people who have no idea what they're talking about. Healthy foods don't suddenly become unhealthy when you eat over the magical hypothetical "healthy butter limit."

      Butter is healthy in all quantities. Obviously you can eat too much of any food and become obese and being obese is not good for you, but that has nothing to do with the "fine in moderation" statement.

  8. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Butter is ok but not a patch on Extra Virgin Olive Oil
    https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/extra-virgin-olive-oil

  9. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    >it's looks like it's pretty unhealthy
    then get fresh butter fren
    >is butter good for you.jpg
    yes it is
    in case of doubt, just ask yourself this: did people consume it for more than 200 years? if yes, then it's probably good

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      >did people consume it for more than 200 years? if yes, then it's probably good

      Holy Logical Fallacy Batman. We tapped holes into people's skulls for over 200 years to cure headaches, doesn't mean that it was a good idea.

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        >We tapped holes into people's skulls for over 200 years
        yes
        >to cure headaches
        no
        that's just a myth, it was mostly done to clean wounds
        but even if that would've been the case, it's still preferable to eating seed oils

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          Bloodletting trough the front of the skull is actually something that still happens to this day for chronic headaches. And it works.

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          Well we don't know exactly why they did it in most cases, except to say that it was unnecessary by modern medical standards.

          Bloodletting trough the front of the skull is actually something that still happens to this day for chronic headaches. And it works.

          Trepanation now used to relieve subdural hematomas and intercranial pressure, but that has nothing to do with how fricked up the old-school ideas of doing it for no reason were.

          The point is, just because humans used to do something for a long time, doesn't mean that doing it now is smart.

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            How many years do you think trepanning occurred in human history?

            Follow-up question you must answer: how many years do you think humans have been eating saturated fats, i.e. the major source of fat in every wild animal, in significant quantities?

            When you realize how many orders of magnitude these years differ by, you will realize how moronic you sound.

  10. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    obvious bait,have a nice day OP

  11. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    there is literally nothing unhealthy about butter. stop getting your information from vegan moms.

  12. 8 months ago
    Anonymous
  13. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    > thread about food
    > devolves into schizo shit basically right off the bat
    every time

  14. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    If you do use butter, don't use it when the heat is too high or you'll end up with burnt butter like most people do.

  15. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Use clarified butter

  16. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Both are fine.

  17. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    i use both sometimes.

    And if I'm making certain curry dishes.... I'll even use coconut oil + olive oil + butter.

  18. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Butter is great.
    Lard is great.
    Tallow is great.
    Olive oil is not something I would choose to consume. These are the fats people have been eating for millennia. Not any kind of plant oil. I understand olive oil is quite old but that doesn’t mean it’s older than lard and tallow. Or better.
    Lard and tallow are above all else. Anyone who disagrees is misinformed by proctor and gamble or they’re israelites

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      Olive oil is good, but should preferably be fresh and used on salads and such. Most store bought isn't going to be very fresh.

  19. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    >he uses fats to cook food in a pan
    Literally why? Most food has inherent fats or moisture for you to cook in.

  20. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    >thread about oils
    >no mention of olive oil industry being the last bastion of the mob
    Not very bada boom or bada bing

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      If you're not inspecting where your food came from it's entirely on you.

  21. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    This pick reminds me how I used to make from scratch Bread Pudding at a restaurant and cook that bad boy in maple syrup , omfg , taste unbelievably good like omg

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      Bread pudding is the SHIT

  22. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Avocado oil has a higher smoke point than olive oil and isn't a sneed oil. I just use that

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